Mr spread I mean no disrespect, I do realize NSS will never be an issue and I do not want to give the impression it would ever come out even if it were true. It can not. I realize that, I'm a mullet and being a mullet carries with it certain responsibilities. I don't want to swim outside the protection of other mullets and not get caught in the gill net where I belong and end up swimming alone in the middle of the ocean with dori. So I will not stir the pot here. I just want to live with my losses and what little dignity I have left. I don't intend to impugn anybody . The system is what it is and I agree with your premise that there is no NSS because there is no NSS . That's the way it was is and will be. I'm cool with that