Thanks jaws, I have yet to find a reliable inter-market relationship, consequently I don't follow them as a rule. I like to use a Kelner on the daily and when PA is outside the channel (like now) I don't swing trade counter trend usually. investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2016/3/14/lipbkES_03-16_(Daily)__6_17_2015_-_3_14_2016.jpg