Monday, December 14, 2015 2:40:48 AM
Blog Post By CEO on 12/13/2015
Convertible Debt And Accounting Voodoo 0 comments
Dec 13, 2015 10:48 AM | about stocks: LTNC
I've been getting a number of questions regarding laborSMART's balance sheet, specifically the convertible debt. I will take this opportunity to add some real world color.
Looking just at the balance sheet from Q3 2015, one would gasp in horror, and rightly so. However, there are those things called Notes to Financial Statements. We even have another note about those notes in the 10Q. It reads something like "these financial statements should be read in conjunction with the Notes to Financial Statements".
Let's be honest with ourselves. No one reads the notes. It's like trying to read hieroglyphics. The folly in reading the balance sheet without reading the notes, is that we only get a partial picture. The Notes to FS give the detail that explains what is represented by each number as well as all the accounting voodoo it entails.
Again, it's frustrating to try to read this stuff, especially regarding derivatives and conversion feature liability. I can't even prepare them myself anymore (I did them myself the first year we were public). We have a highly paid (and totally worth it) accounting rocket scientist prepare this stuff now. He's even told me "this stuff really is rocket science". Not a joke.
I'll pick the hottest conversation topic and try to cut out all the voodoo and rocket science.
Convertible debt-I covered this on our recent conference call with the highlighted version. Here's a no-voodoo included recap:
BS shows $3.5m convertible debt. This means if everyone converted, it would take $3.5m in stock to pay them off.
Of this $3.5m total, about 45% or so is the discount, meaning the note holders gross profit. There's also some accrued interest in there.
Put another way, about half the 3.5m is actual cash we received that we owe. The other half is the expense of the cash we received.
From a negotiating standpoint, the number that matters is how much cash do the note holders have exposed. Then, we and they must ask the question, "if I get this exposure down to 0 over X period of time, is it worth losing out on the profit?"
We committed to pay them out in cash on a pretty short time table (max deal is at 12 months). They agreed to give us say-so over the ability to convert. Our aggregate cash payment commitment is roughly the amount of cash they have at risk with some interest added in depending on which payment schedule they agreed to. Seems like a fair trade.
Now here's the fun part where I actually enjoy the rocket science /voodoo.
For easy math, let's say it's 50/50. Half the $3.5m is the cost of the borrowed money. The other half is cash we received and cash the creditors have at risk.
If we pay $1.75m cash over 12 months and the note holders are in agreement this is the full value owed, what happens to the other $1.75m we are showing on the BS as convertible debt?
It represents an expense that has to be "un-expensed".
via www.ryanschadel.com/?p=11
Disclosure: I am the President and CEO of (OTCPK:LTNC) and long the stock obviously. I may or may not buy additional shares. In either case, my opinion and view is biased and anyone reading should assume such.
Disclosure: I am/we are long LTNC.
Convertible Debt And Accounting Voodoo 0 comments
Dec 13, 2015 10:48 AM | about stocks: LTNC
I've been getting a number of questions regarding laborSMART's balance sheet, specifically the convertible debt. I will take this opportunity to add some real world color.
Looking just at the balance sheet from Q3 2015, one would gasp in horror, and rightly so. However, there are those things called Notes to Financial Statements. We even have another note about those notes in the 10Q. It reads something like "these financial statements should be read in conjunction with the Notes to Financial Statements".
Let's be honest with ourselves. No one reads the notes. It's like trying to read hieroglyphics. The folly in reading the balance sheet without reading the notes, is that we only get a partial picture. The Notes to FS give the detail that explains what is represented by each number as well as all the accounting voodoo it entails.
Again, it's frustrating to try to read this stuff, especially regarding derivatives and conversion feature liability. I can't even prepare them myself anymore (I did them myself the first year we were public). We have a highly paid (and totally worth it) accounting rocket scientist prepare this stuff now. He's even told me "this stuff really is rocket science". Not a joke.
I'll pick the hottest conversation topic and try to cut out all the voodoo and rocket science.
Convertible debt-I covered this on our recent conference call with the highlighted version. Here's a no-voodoo included recap:
BS shows $3.5m convertible debt. This means if everyone converted, it would take $3.5m in stock to pay them off.
Of this $3.5m total, about 45% or so is the discount, meaning the note holders gross profit. There's also some accrued interest in there.
Put another way, about half the 3.5m is actual cash we received that we owe. The other half is the expense of the cash we received.
From a negotiating standpoint, the number that matters is how much cash do the note holders have exposed. Then, we and they must ask the question, "if I get this exposure down to 0 over X period of time, is it worth losing out on the profit?"
We committed to pay them out in cash on a pretty short time table (max deal is at 12 months). They agreed to give us say-so over the ability to convert. Our aggregate cash payment commitment is roughly the amount of cash they have at risk with some interest added in depending on which payment schedule they agreed to. Seems like a fair trade.
Now here's the fun part where I actually enjoy the rocket science /voodoo.
For easy math, let's say it's 50/50. Half the $3.5m is the cost of the borrowed money. The other half is cash we received and cash the creditors have at risk.
If we pay $1.75m cash over 12 months and the note holders are in agreement this is the full value owed, what happens to the other $1.75m we are showing on the BS as convertible debt?
It represents an expense that has to be "un-expensed".
via www.ryanschadel.com/?p=11
Disclosure: I am the President and CEO of (OTCPK:LTNC) and long the stock obviously. I may or may not buy additional shares. In either case, my opinion and view is biased and anyone reading should assume such.
Disclosure: I am/we are long LTNC.
Recent LTNC News
- Kultura Brands, Inc. (OTCID:LTNC) Reports Strong Early Sell-Through in Georgia and Expands into Northeast with Massachusetts Launch • ACCESS Newswire • 04/07/2026 03:00:00 PM
- Kultura Brands Reports Significant Revenue Growth and Operational Milestones in 2025 CEO Letter • ACCESS Newswire • 03/30/2026 12:30:00 PM
- Kultura Brands (OTCID:LTNC) Redefines LOCK'DIN as Elite Performance Fuel Platform with Q2 Relaunch, Athlete-Led Expansion, and Global Growth Strategy • ACCESS Newswire • 03/27/2026 12:30:00 PM
- Kultura Brands (OTC:LTNC) Accelerates National Momentum With Cencora Marketplace Spring & Summer Growth Acceleration Program • ACCESS Newswire • 03/24/2026 12:15:00 PM
- Kultura Brands (OTC LTNC) Secures Multi Event Festival Partnership for Adios Spirits, Anchoring New Mexico Launch With RNDC and Activating Across Arizona Markets • ACCESS Newswire • 03/20/2026 02:05:00 PM
- Kultura Brands, Inc. (OTCID:LTNC) Establishes Brokerage Account to Support Approved Investment Activities and Potential Share Repurchases • ACCESS Newswire • 03/03/2026 01:30:00 PM
- Global Title Fight: Brandon Figueroa Takes the World Stage This Saturday Live on DAZN, Representing Kultura Brands' Adios(R), Thirst Responder(R) and LOCK'DIN(R) • ACCESS Newswire • 02/03/2026 05:35:00 AM
- Kultura Brands Launches Thirst Responder(TM) Hydrogen Water, Activates Direct-to-Consumer Sales and Advances National Commercial Rollout • ACCESS Newswire • 01/29/2026 01:15:00 PM
- Kultura Brands Exceeds Original 5.0 Billion Share Retirement Goal, Significantly Reduces Preferred H Overhang • ACCESS Newswire • 12/23/2025 03:50:00 PM
- Kultura Brands (formerly known as Labor Smart Inc., LTNC) Announces Strategic Portfolio Alignment to Enhance Execution and Focus on Core Growth Initiatives • ACCESS Newswire • 12/16/2025 06:35:00 PM
- Kultura Brands Appoints Brent Albin as President of Its Developing Subsidiary, Kultura Holdings • ACCESS Newswire • 12/03/2025 05:05:00 PM
- Kultura Brands Announces Direct-To-Consumer Launch of Adios Spirits, Marking A New Phase of National Expansion • ACCESS Newswire • 11/26/2025 07:00:00 AM
- Kultura Brands (OTC:LTNC) Announces Official Launch Elevate Health & Wellness Gummies • ACCESS Newswire • 11/17/2025 01:30:00 PM
- Labor Smart, Inc. (Kultura Brands) Retires 2.545 Billion Common Shares; Continues Progress Toward Full Preferred H Conversion and Clean Cap Table • ACCESS Newswire • 11/06/2025 01:30:00 PM
- Labor Smart, Inc. (Kultura Brands) Retires 740 Million Common Shares; Confirms Ongoing Cleanup and Additional Retirements Ahead • ACCESS Newswire • 10/31/2025 12:30:00 PM
- Labor Smart, Inc. (doing business as Kultura Brands, Inc.) Retires 500 million Common Shares; Confirms 5 billion Share Retirement Initiative Underway • ACCESS Newswire • 10/24/2025 12:30:00 PM
- Labor Smart Inc. Announces Corporate Name Change to Kultura Brands Inc. • ACCESS Newswire • 10/21/2025 12:30:00 PM
- Labor Smart, Inc. (OTC: LTNC) Powers Adios Spirits With Netflix Broadcaster Ernesto Amador to Target the Exploding RTD Market • ACCESS Newswire • 09/22/2025 12:30:00 PM
