Carog, you are exactly right, change and shareholder activism is what is needed. I could care less about dividends, it won't help the share price and actually as RD said growth companies typically have better uses of cash than dividends. I see no active involvement by our board, no insider buys (with a couple exceptions), broken promises, lack of transparency, little regard for shareholder value. If you want change you must become involved, simple as that, you can't be an absentee owner. Same as owning a store, turning it over to a manager, never showing up or supervising the manager and being surprised by the results. Get involved or don't complain, I'm getting involved.