Bill I have to disagree that for every winner there has to be a loser.[Zero Sum] That really only applies to the commodities business. That only happens at bottoms and tops in stocks.[even though it can happen in between sometimes] Case and point in TCEL if a lot of people buy now,more than one person can make money if TCEL stock goes up big. Example I sell on a 50% move and the person that bought sells at 100%. Now the new person buying could possibly sell at 150 or 200%. It just depends on the move.