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Re: SeriousMoney post# 173100

Thursday, 04/27/2006 1:31:34 PM

Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:31:34 PM

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"In the United States, ml, we maintain separation of church and state in accordance with our precious constitution. In a free, democratic, and tolerant American society, any man or woman including Dr. Ehrman may choose to be or not to be a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or whatever else he decides."


The constitution has nothing to do with it. Certainly he is free to call himself a Christian and he is free to become a a Christian, although I doubt that he does so. He is also free to call himself six headed martian, but that would not make it so, just the same way that calling himself a Christian does not make him one.


"Dr. Ehrman's decision to no longer have his mind and freewill controlled by Christian Fundamentalist teachers and their intolerant interpretation of the bible does not make him anything less in the eyes of U.S. law."

In the eyes of US law, you are correct, but he is not a Christian. The man is an avowed agnostic and thus he is not a Christian -- period. The fact that he at one time claimed to be a Christian and professed to believe, know, and understand all the tenets involved in the faith makes him an apostate Christian, subject to more severe punishment when he is Judged by Christ than those who do not believe out of ignorance. According to Scripture, he would have been far better off had he never heard the gospel.



"And it appears that he learned more about what it means to be Christian during his biblical and theological studies at Wheaton College and his Master of Divinity and Ph.D. at Princeton Theological Seminary."

He may have plenty of head knowledge about Christianity, but it is what one believes in his heart that determines whether or not one is a Christian -- by his own admission, he is not. Just out of curiosity, do you have any quote where the man claims to be a Christian???

If I remember correctly, what he was taught at Wheaton College was probably pretty good. The problems came at Princeton, a hotbed of liberal apostate christianity.



"Constitution of the United States, Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


I am quite familiar with the establishment clause of the Constitution, and in fact I even remember the second half of that clause which our liberal brethren usually give only lip service to if not ignore it altogether.

What the Constitution does not and cannot do is make a man a Christian just because he claims to be one. Only God knows who is a Christian, but He gave us the guidelines for what it takes to be one in the Bible -- and being an agnostic is an automatic disqualification.

mlsoft

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