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Let the truth out! You don’t need to fear any retaliation even if he had you sign an NDA. He’d need to borrow money to even file court papers. People need to start telling the truth. I believe the last poster under me is the ceo himself.
I know I said I’m gone. But Jesus Christ the guy lost his house. He doesn’t know when to give up. This guy has no lost his house for what? Trying to pay debt and float a company that is dead? He needs to stop borrowing money or this cycle will never end. This is beyond pathetic and truly sad. He’s ruined his family’s lives because of his incompetence.
It doesn’t even matter. Why are people investing with a company they know isn’t making money. They are being
Mislead. Nobody is this stupid. So what are they being mislead about? Where is the money going? The company clearly doesn’t need much float cash as it isn’t doing anything. So what is the money for? Think about it, this company doesn’t even have enough money to fill the most basic orders. It has to solicit money to even ship goods apparently. So wtf is really going on? What is a $600 order show me? I’ve made $600 since this morning, an entire company doesn’t even have that in cash to fill an order? I know you’re the #1 defender of WNBD. At this point you should be hired as the PR person. But can someone explain to me how terrible one person can be with money that they result to basically begging people for money and then act like the king of ethics while doing something completely unethical and lacking morals? This is someone at the end of their rope. Everyone here could’ve bought this company 5x over and done a better job at this. The used car salesman facade isn’t getting anywhere in business. I could personally move truckloads of product if this was my company as I know how to actually make relationships and move things. This guys burnt out and probably buried in debt it seems hopeless and doesn’t appear to try. Now, respectfully, like I said, I can’t waste anymore time talking here. This is beyond sad and all the staunch defenders who are just hoping their millions of shares will do something and feel the need to defend is even more sad. This is like hitting a raccoon with your car and watching it slowly die and feeling useless watching it unfold. The only remedy is removing himself from the equation. Until then, you guys will be talking the same next year. Like you have for the past 3 - 4 years. Only difference is now people are getting pissed and he can’t control the reputation anymore with press releases and fake hope.
Don’t reply to me I’m done here. I don’t give a shit what his blog says to be honest. Doesn’t explain soliciting loans from shareholders and not returning money. This company is worth less than a new iPhone. We are all wasting our time bickering amongst each other. People got burned. Company failed for whatever reason. People should know where their money went. Lies, lies and more lies. For years. Give your heads a shake. I’m done here for good. Wish y’all the best in future investments!
You’re right. It’s been a dead duck. I’m out. Cutting the loss. Don’t have time for this. I hope anyone who has made a loan understands your money is gone. I hope one of the guys who got burned contacts the media / sec and gets people digging into where your money actually went and finds out if a crime was committed. Wish y’all the best!
I think the moral of the story is nobody is getting their money back. Taking money from shareholder is unethical to begin with. That shouldn’t have happened in the first place and a sign that bridges have been burnt everywhere else. When people started mentioning calling the media and the sec he sure put out a blog quick which seemed to me that he feared that people digging into these loans May find that they weren’t used for what they said they were. That was my take. Just trying to buy time. No plan of action, nothing really. Just trying to avoid a shit storm. How much are these skids worth? $600 wholesale a piece? Lol
There’s no results because he can’t do anything for them. What is a single guy with no money going to do for anyone? He can’t even provide a service to them for a cut of the action. There is literally nothing wnbd can do for any of these company’s and that’s why after initial talks they walk away. Let’s be honest here. This guy press releases conversations to try and boost stock. That’s it. Nothing more. Unless he posts any sales I doubt much has moved pre-covid. The ethical thing to do would be to walk away and give the company to someone willing to put the work in and has a few bucks to float it in the mean time. It’s not ethical to take loans from shareholders and not pay anyone back. The guy talks ethics and does the exact opposite. Give these people a chance to get their money back.
No accountability. Blaming everyone else for his failure. Confirms company barely getting by. Confirms WNBD owes money to people. Got it.
I just wish we knew what was going on. You haven’t talked to him? You’re like his #1 defender. I don’t even agree with people who have constantly pestered the guy. I just wish he’d post financials or let everyone know he’s alive. If people are lending that much money and then talking about it here we should see proof likewise.
Unless the money ended up spent on personal living expenses. If the house of cards is collapsing, a few grand prior at least keeps the lights on for a few more months.
If these guys have paperwork proving that they lent all this money, then where did it go? Was it actually used to fulfill orders? Or was it used to pay his own living expenses or paying off other loans? If he lied to them and did not use the money for the reason he said, that’s fraud plain and simple and media will be all over that. If it’s true that loans have been continuously being made for years with no return, this is a problem and may be far worse than people are thinking. I am NOT saying that’s the case, but that’s what it looks like.
CTV would be all over that if there are this many loans out there. If this company has just been taking money to pay for his living expenses and not even doing business, that’s a crime and media would be all over it. If there is truth to this and these guys have the paperwork, then this could be a bit more serious than the company just failing.
Thing is, everyone here could make money off this if he just took a personal haircut and sold the company. Plenty of skilled people looking for things to do that can rebuild these soured relationships and move product. He could blame covid and walk away. The asking shareholders for money and press releases of phone calls he’s had is destroying any company image.
You can’t even buy PT lumber in stores right now.
Can only do that for up to two years though. I loaned someone a substantial amount and got strung along for a couple of years then contacted my lawyer to see what we could do and he said we only had two years to find recourse. So basically, pooched.
They’re going to manipulate it to try and get everyone to sell. That’s why it’s going down.
Agreed. Anyone can say anything on twitter. But, when you have a bunch of people everywhere saying money is owed to them it raises some eyebrows. I can also see a small business going down hill and the owner taking loans in good faith hoping it will get them through to the next deal or in a position to raise capital. If that’s the case it doesn’t mean he did it maliciously. If he’s had no income from this in years, how does he pay his bills? I can see how loans can come into play and spiral out of control.
There’s other people on Twitter in his comments saying he owes them money for a couple years and doesn’t answer them for loans. Look at his last tweet comments.
That’s all this company is
Problem with loaning money is you only have two years to get anything back legally or the courts see it as you not needing the money. Not sure if it was for a lot but I found the fact he was asking shareholders to find him someone with 50k concerning. I mean we are really at the end of the rope if you can’t get 50k and own an international company that’s selling products so well as some seem to think. You can borrow off inventory, banks will eneven finance a solid deal if one were in place. For those reasons I believe there is lots of debt and no money. There are private finance ppl everywhere that will finance a solid deal. It’s just not difficult to get money if you have the proof. That’s all I’m saying.
Hey I’m no fan. I’m the one who has always said nobody should be calling, emailing or harassing the guy. It’s not like people investing are equal partners in a business and it’s really not their business if the company performs or not, they put their money here hoping for something that’s never coming. I think the company is out of business though. He’s not earning a living off this. He could use covid for the excuse of failing and cut his losses. I think there’s more way debt than the company can possibly be making.
No. But I think a guy who press releases a phone call would.
It’s not sold in any stores. Call your local home hardware and ask. If it was carried in stores it would sell and you’d have financials. There are no recent 100+ reviews on any site. They are all 5 years old. It’s not selling. The company’s worry around 3K. There’s been one picture I’ve ever seen of it in home hardware and it looked like he set the box on the shelf himself. No financials in years. Company’s making money show it off to shareholders.i don’t blame the guy though he genuinely tried, but that’s gotta be stressful to constantly have shareholders harassing you and having to ask them if they know anyone with money to lend. Even tried to start a thing to take a cut of entrepreneurs money. Only problem is no JV or innovator wants any part of it because he can’t do anything for them.
If you click on the link on HomeDepot and start adding to cart it says there is only 3 units available. Most likely what’s left from not selling. If someone buys those 3 bottles I bet link goes dead.
The entire market cap says this company is worth like $3000. So basically we own that old rusty van? I call front bumper!
Stop trying to drive traffic to your site
I’ve always said silver is undervalued. I could see it going to $70 if the economy gets worse.
It still amazes me that people have faith in a guy who has delivered nothing. This is a one man company with an old minivan and some hand sanitizer. Products are not available in stores and every single craft beer company to Fortune 500 makes hand sanitizer. All of them have more money than WNBD. The CEO literally asked shareholders if they knew anyone who would give him a loan. You’ve literally invested money in a guy who’s asking you if you know anyone with money. The reason that’s most likely happening is one last ditch attempt before shop closes. Banks won’t give a company with no sales or assets money. The poor guy has been harassed and emailed by penny stock holders for how long? I’m shocked the guy hasn’t
Worn out by now. Fact: stock hasn’t moved in years. You’re not going to get any gains. Leave the ceo in peace and stop emailing him. You were dumb enough to put any money here
I made a ton off this company when they started. I got out before the last split but left some in and got hammered. I believed at the beginning but it started getting sketchy when they started handing out millions in shares. I don’t trust anything they say at this point. This is a borderline ponzi in my eyes.
That’s what I’ve been thinking too
This is a dead horse. I’ve watched this with some other penny stocks and it amazes me people are still hopeful. This company doesn’t seem to have any cash or employees or make any sales. Nothing they’ve said they were going to do has worked out and people are still thinking it’s going places. Id partly home the people who email the guy constantly like they are actual partners in a company and need constant updates. The stock never moving is all the update you need.