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Loch Harris = CDEx = SCAM
"No shame in being humble and wanting success for ALL shareholders. The funders have shown nothing but the humbleness of true warriors who fight for the right of goodness and the best for ALL."
LOL! What you mean to say is that you still have your PP investors hoodwinked into believing the absolute nonsence that CDEx disseminates. Warriors! LOL
Those that tell the true story about the Loch/CDEx scam do so for truth, justice and the American way.
They can also leap buildings in a single bound.
Good point Crow3, there's no shame to their game, arrogant and greedy sounds like an accurate description.
How embarrasing is that, attending the ASHP Show for three years in a row advertising a dream machine, but unable to deliver the goods.
If they don't have units available for immediate deliver in 30 days, they're going to be the laughing stock of the up coming show.
Imagine that, advertising a product you don't have and attending the same show for a fourth year still without the product.
Amazing. Did Poteet get over his head with this one or is he even trying to make it work as advertised?
It appears like Brumfield is good at two things, geting SEC filings in on time and 'expecting'. LOL
I wonder what Brumfield's 'expecting' is based on, Poteet's forcasts or Brumfield's own unscrupolus purposes?
SP up 8.33% on strong volume- this thing is taking off!
Yep, still a niche market for high-risk, compounded, liquid meds. No one is going to get rich even if they sell a few, especially with the exhorbitant CDEx salaries.
For a tiny start-up company operating on a shoestring from a small shop and paying out salaries like 350K/year for Brumfield is beyond outrageous.
That's scam stuff.
"Trouble, is getting somebody stupid with money to buy those shares or lend money on them. That is very unlikely... it would take a much better salesman than any that CDEX has to get that done."
I'll bet R.S. Pennstreet can make a sale or two. The only thing he has to do is take a couple prospects with more money than sense to the local cantina and give them his pitch. He already brought in the oil patch gang for a mil and a half, didn't he?
He can have them go on-line to this message board and read capnmike's posts suggesting what could happen if all the stars line up and the BS that CDEx disseminates has any truth to it. Actually, in order for anything that capnmike suggests to come true, everything that CDEx says would have to be the absolute truth- a known inpossibility.
"Regarding the ValiMed G4 system, for the year 2013 we will primarily be focusing on expanding our signature library, the delivery of machines that are currently under contract, finalizing new contracts that are in our pipeline, and developing the capability to provide analysis of oncology drugs, and begin research in the area of Total Parenteral Nutrition (“TPN”) capability."
That global medical research company that was allegedly shipped a G4 was suppose to be using it daily for that very purpose.
That was almost two years ago, yet CDEx claims that they're only now beginning research?!! LOL
The same ole CDEx scam as before! LOL
Loch Harris had a contract with Lucent, remember that, a NDA?
A contract can be any type of agreement- anything.
CDEx may have a contract providing janitorial services for the pizza place next to their shop. Maybe that's why no one answers the phone at CDEx, junior is busy mopping the floor next store.
The CDEx scam and its predecessors have been operating for over a quarter century! Yes, over 25 years! If one examines the public records they will see that even before this scam operated under the Loch Harris name, it operated under three other names before it- ALL STOCK SELLIN SCAMS, EACH ONE OF THEM.
The name may change but the scam continues.
FASCINATING!
Bankruptcy was completely avoidable during the real estate crash as long as one did not over leverage there holdings and had the common sense to build in safeguards.
Those that foolishly went willy nilly paid the price.
Brumfield may be considered a business man but very obviously not a good business man, not with two bankruptcies under his belt.
It appears that's how he's running the show at CDEx as well. Taking a 350K/year salary while the company operates on a shoestring with no inventory, no means of manufacturing and no credit with vendors is the business model of true scam artists.
A good CEO that is confident in the success of the company would take a minimmal salary and defer the balance until the company started producing adequate revenue. A SCAM ARTIST GRABS WHATEVER HE CAN GET, THEN RELIES ON FOOLISH PP INVESTORS TO BAIL OUT THE COMPANY WHEN THE MONEY DRIES UP. THAT'S CALLED A STOCK SELLING SCAM.
CDEx is a blatant scam, always has been (as pennstreet has admitted) and continues to be.
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"Cdex moved pass the Penny Stock scamster stuff, when a true business man and leader was brought in by pper's."
- pennstreet
"No hype on bogus pr's, as was the norm from the loch days and first 9 years of Cdex."
- pennstreet
CDEx is still a scam, complete with hype, bogus PR's and false or misleading court documents. These FACTS cannot be missed by any reasonable person monitoring this scam over the last three years.
AFTER THREE YEARS, shareholders still wait for any verifiable, independent testing of the G4.... or even one sale.
No one believes CDEx claims anymore, they have lost all CREDIBILITY.
"Relax folks. CDEX will either be successful, or not be successful, based upon the ValiMed G4 product performance."
I couldn't agree more, that was good advise. You should take it and try to relax. Your continued blitzkreig of speculative posting is counter-productive and is stressing you out no matter how much you try to convince readers otherwise.
You remind me of the scared kid whistling as he walks past the graveyard. LOL
I have talked with several pharmacuetical pros that you have listed in your posts regarding CDEx and the consensus is that no one knows how well the the G4 will perfom. Everyone still has to wait and see.
Still no return call from CDEx to the people that have been wanting to test the G4 and I think you know who they are.
I will keep everyone updated as I speak with more ASHP professionals about the CDEx G4.
"No PR. No named contracts. No material event. Yet. Just speculation."
Pure 100%, wild speculation on what could happen if all the planets line up.
No independent testing, no studies, no clinical trials... still, the only thing shareholders and the ASHP professionals know, besides limited demos, is what CDEx advertises.
That's CDEx, a well known scam.
No CDEx PR claims they have "signed" contracts. They say the 2011 ASHP show resulted in a number of contracts. It does not say whether they were verbal agreements or written and signed contracts.
Knowing how this scam operates, I'm almost 100% sure that they were verbal understandings. What company would commit to a signed contract with CDEX's reputation.
The professionals that I have spoken/communicated with all have a wait and see attitude.
"Sure, if the G4 will do everything that you are claiming you can put as down for one"
That's what CDEx would consider a contract based on their long history of false and misleading, weasel-worded PR's which are well-documented, public facts.
"No hype on bogus pr's, as was the norm from the loch days and first 9 years of Cdex."
-pennsteet
Sorry pennstreet, the only thing one needs to do is read the last three CDEx ASHP PR's and it is quite clear the hype continues!
"The Mp lead team, after Dr. Poteet and Mr. Starzinger left CDEX, was nothing but drainers of the CDEX bank account."
Now, we have an uneducated, failed businessman draining the CDEx coffer to the tune of $350K per year.
An outrageous salary for a small company with very limited operating capital claiming that they are in commercial production of the illusionary dream machine called the G4.
It simply doesn't add up.
The scam artist running this show need to do their math.
Are you kidding, Wade has time to rebuild his Toyota while the company is in such a critical period?
He should be working 7 days a week on the G4.
One does not take off on the weekends when the magical machine is going to allegedly (so says a CDEx promoter) make history!
$30K/year would be the average salary for a person without a high school diploma, in fact, that would be considered good pay!.
So why does a fail businessman make 30K/month working part-time for a small start-up company operating on a shoestring?
That's scamster stuff!
"Cdex and the investors of CDEX, is proud of Dr. Poteet."
Is they? LOL! How about Jeff? I've heard quite the opposite about him, many shareholders are wondering why CDEx has an uneducated, failed businessman as their CEO and why they are paying his a salary of almost $30K per month.
A simple fact.
What does he do everyday if he's home in Romona, CA?
"It is a matter of factual record, that there is NO CDEX employed person with initials RS. Thus, only a moron would claim that RS could have any input to CDEX filing or not filing a BK, lol. This is true before Mr. Brumfield and after Mr. Brumfield"
Robert Stewart is on public record as paying a visit to GEMINI and asking them to forgive the CDEx debt during the BK hearings. Stewart is also on public record as being responsible for bringing in the Lubbock Oil Patch investors.
Those initials are a match. Of course, Stewart wouldn't be a W2 employee, he'd be on commission for those services as a 1099 independent contractor.
Wouldn't you agree PENNSTREET?
"Angel Investor" to be exact.
"Cdex moved pass the Penny Stock scamster stuff, when a true business man and leader was brought in by pper's."
- pennstreet
As in the past, you have been fooled once again pennstreet. Maybe you should stay clear of penny stocks or at least do not promote them, even if you lose A PP investor or two.
I believe this "true business man" you speak of is uneducated, has failed in business by way of BK twice, and has allegedly submitted false or misleading information in court filings, SEC filings and product PR's.
And you think CDEx has moved pass "the scam stuff"? You are very sadly mistaken. Do you truly fail to recognize the scam is progressing just as it has in the past or do you just not want to admit it?
SCAMS NEVER, EVER JUST SUDDENLY CHANGE AND BECOME LEGITIMATE ENTERPRISES.
Relax capNmike, before you advocate for a new category for EPS, let's wait and see if Wade can even get the G4 completed and operating within acceptance.
Right now it's just a vehicle to attract PP investors in Lubbock, TX.
It's 'vaporware' until proven otherwise.
"....But, I would add each species and concentration will ALSO require testing for multiple LVP IV bags, SVP bags, syringes of multiple types, vials, etc. "
If you are referring to signatures, I made the need for that requirement very clear on this board over two years ago!
The G4 will require a very large number of signatures. A signature for each med, each dilutent, each concentation and each different type of containment.
Orientation in the chamber is also critical, you cannot "just throw it into the belly of the beast" as pennstreet has described.
Those are a few of the critical requirements if CDEx ever can get the thing to work even a fraction of what they have initially advertised...
...back when it was only a concept product being advertised to sell PP's to naive investors unaware of the history of the CDEx scam.
"Keep in mind the most extensive ValiMed test so far was an 18-Month peer reviewed study which apparently required significant time between study completion and publication."
That has nothing to do with the G4 as you well know.
The G4 allegedly identifies chemical species by Raman Spectroscopy, the original Valimed used fluorescence and possibly absorption spectroscopy.
The G4 allegedly uses a combination of flourescense and reflectance spectroscopy without the use of a cuvette, the original Valimed used fluorescence and absorption spectroscopy which absolutley required a cuvette in order to work.
The new Valimed G4 is an entirely different instrument which will require a new study to determine its ability to identify chemical species with an acceptable specificity and measure drug concentration with acceptable accuracy.
No professional would assume that the G4 is a tested instrument because of an earlier study conducted with the original Valimed- that study is irrelevant.
Why doesn't CDEx want it independently tested?
CDEX's security division is not non-existent, it exists on a piece of paper, just like CDEx's "suite of airport security products" or the "international medical company" that has been using a G4 for the last two years to perform multi-component drug strength testing- a feature which CDEx itself admits won't be an available feature on the G4 when they are placed on the market.
That's all a bunch of BS, CDEx is once again advertising products that they don't have.
The 'Narcolizer', case in point, or how about the ID2 Meth Gun which Poteet claimed would soon be capable of detecting other drugs- all BS.
It's a shame how he's lead on investors.
"Hey ya'll, I was in communication to some that plan to use and test the ValiMed G4 device. Looking good at CDEX!"
By capnmike
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81758902
Again I ask, what happen to capnmike's contact, doesn't CDEx want the G4 independently tested?
I don't believe they do and once capnmike became aware of that he never mentioned the contact again. He later stated on this board that he didn't think CDEx would have the G4 independently tested, but instead, they would rely on customer feedback once units are placed.
So why is pennstreet getting his pants up-tight over this and insisting I give him a contact number so he "can make it happen"?
It's could be because pennstreet sells PP's and those PP investors would like the security of knowing the G4 was successfully tested by an independent third party, but that's never going to happen, capmike knows it, pennstreet knows it and all those that read this board know it.
If CDEx truly wanted independent testing the resources have been available to have made it happen long ago.
Sooner or later the PP investors are going to catch if they're smart.
He says he don't like the Boss Man no more, but he adores Wade and takes is writings for the gospel truth.
If it is written by the guru, he believes.
An inonit forshirley (TM- capnmike).
If you think back to your math studies in Differential Equations and Complex Analysis you'll remember that Fourier Transformations don't exist with real numbers.
They're as imaginary as i(2)= -1.
Complex data means imaginary.
It's no BIG DEAL cappy, no one crunches data without the use of FFT, PLEASE DON'T TRY TO SELL IT!
FYI, I've emailed several of your posts calling me a liar to the contact interested in testing the G4.
You're looking like a two-bit crook selling "vaporware"! LOL
Pennstreet you're wrong, this scam hasn't changed at all, in fact, its gotten worse.
"Put the name of the company and a contact person that would like to test the G4."
CDEx has the name and number left on their answering machine, get it from them. Or... as an option, get the name and number of the contact announced by capnmike, he sure seemed excited about talking with them. I'm quite sure that they're still be very interested in testing a unit. ;)
"Let's make this happen." CDEx could use one of those G4's that you claim are traveling across the country from coast to coast!
LOL!!
Pennstreet claimed that he wants to make independent testing of the G4 happen! Well here ya go:
By capnmike
"Hey ya'll, I was in communication to some that plan to use and test the ValiMed G4 device. Looking good at CDEX!"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81758902
What happen with that contact? No returned phone calls like the person that I contacted? I don't believe CDEx has any desire whatsoever to have an independent organization test the iG4!
"LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN"
-pennstreet
You stock promoters are just too much!!
Hasn't Joseph Motta been mentioned in many of the SEC filings under ownership? Sure sounds familiar.
One thing that CDEx and its stock promoters don't count on is investors calling and talking to people like Mr. Payne, Dr. Stevenson and those that would like the opportunity to test the G4.
It's a whole different story from what CDEx and its stock promoters attempt to portray on these investment message boards!
Crow, it would be interesting to have a chat with Thomas K. Payne, the gentlemen that opted out of the bogus onocology deal.
He's easy to look up. From what I gather, he lives in Lubbock, is Phi-Kappa-Phi/Texas University grad and owns a petroleum company.
Who would have thunk?
I wonder if he has good things to say about his dealings with CDEx?
A PR that's over 6 years old describing a product that is obsolete an no longer available.
I rest my case. :)
Thank you.
Every single product that CDEx has ever produced has never lived up to the hyped advertising.
Every patent which CDEx has been granted contains a plethora of applications for the invention, none of which have ever been realized.
Every single product has fallen far short of its intended use, eventually becoming unmarketable.
The G4 would be a wonderful machine if it could do everything advertised and referenced in the patent application, but it can't and never will.
Only the CDEx stock promoters advertise everything claimed by CDEx as the absolute truth which any reasonable person knows, based of past history alone, is nonsense.
"Cdex moved pass the Penny Stock scamster stuff..."
-Pennstreet
No they haven't, everything is proceeding just as it always has in the past:
1. Start highly hyped advertising of a product which is only a concept and will never becomes available for years, if ever.
2. Apply for a patent which contains plethora of applications for the product.
3. Have on-line stock promoters take everything said by CDEx at face value and spam it on-line.
(eg. capnmike)
4. Find some naive PP investors (ones that don't consider that they may have been flat-out lied to) to buy into the hype.
5. Get a prominent person on the BOD and have the stock promoters advertise their accomplishments and try to associate it with CDEx. (eg. capnmike)
6. Produce said product (optional) with only a fraction of the advertised capability. Allow product to become obsolete in favor of...
7. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I thought you got off that stuff Crow! lol