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You're not Getting It, are you? Christ on a crutch.
I seriously did NOT expect THIS many gullible people...
lol, we all could have told you what would happen. Shows you the extent to which people believe what they want to believe.
It's those multiple aliases. They just keep on going, even as you sleep.
Thanks, that was considerate. But I'm sure I'll get many laughs from it over the next months. And years.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... And did you report him to the SEC??
And what's "interesting" about his linking to Datatech's posts at Yahoo? It's always good to keep abreast of the thoughts of company insiders, hallucinatory as they may be.
Oh for God's sake. Read the IDWD board for the last few days. EVERYONE is joking, and posting parodies that the longs fall for like a ton of bricks.
I have also have been asked one more than one occasion to become a paid basher. I was told there were five or six pink sheet CEOs who would pay dearly for someone to develop multiple aliases and play them against one another.
Um, wouldn't the CEO in question want you to be a paid tout? Or was the idea to do a good cop/bad cop thing?
In any case, it would have been illegal, as the intention would have been to manipulate the stock. That CEO would have found himself in trouble.
"Mundus vult decipi": the world wants to be deceived.
LOL!! By now the thing is all over IHub. And RB, of course. AGAIN. There seems to be an unlimited supply of stupidity on the message boards.
OT: I just saw the most unbelievably stupid TV commercial:
A little girl goes to her father's bedroom in the middle of the night. A puppy informs us that "it's the third time tonight". What does Dad do?
He puts her back in bed with a roll of toilet paper. She falls asleep.
lol, I bookmarked the URL. So far I've posted it on three boards whose resident cognitively challenged folks believed it was real.
And I'm sure it's EVERYWHERE, so I'll have occasion to post it again.
and yes, there are even paid bashers.
There are? Where can I apply??
You need a minder. Shouldn't be allowed to cross the street by yourself, let alone handle money.
Here's a clue. Fog rewrote Firebird's famous "Confessions of a Paid Basher", which made quite a stir back in 2000. Here's a story about it:
Raging Bull Chat Room Devotees Get Dose of 'Whopper'
By Robert Kowalski
Staff Reporter
11/9/00 3:12 PM ET
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html
If anyone needed further proof that Internet bulletin boards attract fools like winged vermin to a Shell No-Pest Strip, Steve Tracy offered it last week when he publicly "confessed" online that he was being paid to bash stocks.
In the week that followed, lots of the gullible folk still apparently didn't realize just how badly they were being had. So badly that Tracy, the originator of the little hoax, was sheepishly wondering if his prank had spiraled out of control.
"In my view, this thing has gotten totally ridiculous," he wrote in an email interview. "While at first I was pleased at the reception it received, I am quite dismayed that so many people would believe what I had thought to be an obvious joke."
The fun began last Wednesday when Tracy, who goes by the Internet alias firebird_1965, posted a tome entitled, "Confessions of a Paid Basher", on Raging Bull.
Blastoff
Tracy posted the purported mea culpa with considerable fanfare, including a message-by-message countdown to its launch.
In the missive, he came clean in gushing prose about what many of the conspiratorial types have suspected for months about the Internet message boards: He claimed he was being paid to bash stocks as part of an orchestrated effort to drive their prices down. He said he worked for a boiler room operation called Franklin Andrews Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, Conn.
He said he was ashamed and wanted to be able to look himself in the mirror again. "I'm too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds," he wrote.
OK, that kind of talk usually brings a skeptical smirk to any reporter's face. This is Raging Bull, after all, not the Little Sisters of the Poor. And there were other red flags fluttering around this tale.
There is no listing for Franklin Andrews in the Stamford phone directory. No sign of it in standard corporate records databases either. One clever observer later noticed a pattern in the first initials of each name in the firm when linked together: F-A-K-E.
"Come on, that's as obvious and silly as those acronyms they used in the old 1960s spy movies," Tracy said.
There was also a nearly identical posting of a so-called paid basher confession on another message board site with a different name for the supposed boiler room. Then there was the clincher. At the bottom of Tracy's "confession," well past the signature (for anyone who bothered to continue scrolling), read this innocuous line: "And if you believe this -- lol."
In Internet posting lingo, "lol" is short for "laughing out loud."
Bingo.
But that's the part no one picked up initially when they electronically copied the confession and began posting it all over other message board sites under headings for at least a dozen different stocks.
Those included boards for Urbana(URBA:OTC BB), Sun Microsystems(SUNW:Nasdaq), Cyber-Care(CYBR:Nasdaq) and WaveRider Communications(WAVC:Nasdaq).
"It put 'bashers' in a whole new light for me" one person wrote in a posting on Raging Bull.
Tracy claims on his Raging Bull profile to be a 35-year old Texas marketing consultant with an MBA who likes "fast cars, faster women." But we know how much to believe about what he says online.
Still, in an email interview, he said: "I would ask that it be made clear ... that I am not a paid basher."
"The truly sad thing is that after learning it was a put on, some of these people still want to believe it was part of some grand conspiracy," he said. "My suggestion to these people is: Don't go to Burger King for a while -- you've already had your share of Whoppers!"
Are you feeling foolish yet? You certainly should be.
lol, another gullibler. Drawn like flies to fly paper.
Um....do you know what "calumny" means?
Actually he rewrote Firebird's old "Confessions of a Paid Basher", which originally appeared in 2000. Suckers have been falling for it like a ton of bricks ever since.
Here's an article about it from TheStreet.com:
Raging Bull Chat Room Devotees Get Dose of 'Whopper'
By Robert Kowalski
Staff Reporter
11/9/00 3:12 PM ET
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html
If anyone needed further proof that Internet bulletin boards attract fools like winged vermin to a Shell No-Pest Strip, Steve Tracy offered it last week when he publicly "confessed" online that he was being paid to bash stocks.
In the week that followed, lots of the gullible folk still apparently didn't realize just how badly they were being had. So badly that Tracy, the originator of the little hoax, was sheepishly wondering if his prank had spiraled out of control.
"In my view, this thing has gotten totally ridiculous," he wrote in an email interview. "While at first I was pleased at the reception it received, I am quite dismayed that so many people would believe what I had thought to be an obvious joke."
The fun began last Wednesday when Tracy, who goes by the Internet alias firebird_1965, posted a tome entitled, "Confessions of a Paid Basher", on Raging Bull.
Blastoff
Tracy posted the purported mea culpa with considerable fanfare, including a message-by-message countdown to its launch.
In the missive, he came clean in gushing prose about what many of the conspiratorial types have suspected for months about the Internet message boards: He claimed he was being paid to bash stocks as part of an orchestrated effort to drive their prices down. He said he worked for a boiler room operation called Franklin Andrews Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, Conn.
He said he was ashamed and wanted to be able to look himself in the mirror again. "I'm too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds," he wrote.
OK, that kind of talk usually brings a skeptical smirk to any reporter's face. This is Raging Bull, after all, not the Little Sisters of the Poor. And there were other red flags fluttering around this tale.
There is no listing for Franklin Andrews in the Stamford phone directory. No sign of it in standard corporate records databases either. One clever observer later noticed a pattern in the first initials of each name in the firm when linked together: F-A-K-E.
"Come on, that's as obvious and silly as those acronyms they used in the old 1960s spy movies," Tracy said.
There was also a nearly identical posting of a so-called paid basher confession on another message board site with a different name for the supposed boiler room. Then there was the clincher. At the bottom of Tracy's "confession," well past the signature (for anyone who bothered to continue scrolling), read this innocuous line: "And if you believe this -- lol."
In Internet posting lingo, "lol" is short for "laughing out loud."
Bingo.
But that's the part no one picked up initially when they electronically copied the confession and began posting it all over other message board sites under headings for at least a dozen different stocks.
Those included boards for Urbana(URBA:OTC BB), Sun Microsystems(SUNW:Nasdaq), Cyber-Care(CYBR:Nasdaq) and WaveRider Communications(WAVC:Nasdaq).
"It put 'bashers' in a whole new light for me" one person wrote in a posting on Raging Bull.
Tracy claims on his Raging Bull profile to be a 35-year old Texas marketing consultant with an MBA who likes "fast cars, faster women." But we know how much to believe about what he says online.
Still, in an email interview, he said: "I would ask that it be made clear ... that I am not a paid basher."
"The truly sad thing is that after learning it was a put on, some of these people still want to believe it was part of some grand conspiracy," he said. "My suggestion to these people is: Don't go to Burger King for a while -- you've already had your share of Whoppers!"
http://www.thestreet.com/pf/tech/internet/1165692.html
OTCBBs don't trade after hours. No doubt what you saw were trades that were recorded late.
Now that's an idea!
And I got an unfriendly call from the SEC that same afternoon!!
Didn't they think it was funny? After all, they've got McWhortle, though it's not a very good effort.
You are very definitely NOT GETTING IT.
Unbelievable.
Yes, terribly boring. We need some action, preferably on the part of the SEC.
I'll bet they do too. Maybe they should shoot for January 2007.
To: AsturiasPh.D/MBA who wrote (16084) 10/27/2005 8:26:20 PM
From: scionist Read Replies (1) of 17098
Controversial Cape companies like Essential Waters and Internet Gaming Corporation - both under the influence of Stephen LUMB - were unceremoniously ushered off the JSE with shareholders much lighter in the pocket.
CBN ARCHIVE - January '2003:
South Africa - JANUARY '2003 - Winners and losers of 2002
http://www.cbn.co.za/archive/2003-jan/WIN.HTM
LONDON - The London Stock Exchange has delisted Hanover Capital as controversial South African entrepreneur Stephen LUMB appears to have won an internal struggle about the future direction of the company. There has been another shock for Hanover's 7,000 shareholders who have seen their company make an abrupt change of direction in the past few months, from being an "internet incubator" to a mining investment house.
http://www.thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?msg=658074&tf=wall_street_pit&cmd=read&par=sm
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21832865&srchtxt=Lumb
I hope Mr Manuel got cash, not stock...
I'll bet that'll be good.
Tell me you aren't being paid.
We're not being paid.
Here you can find the text of the original, along with idiotic posts by people who fell for it, and continue to fall for it.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=%22Confessions+of+a+Paid+Basher%22&am...
Here's the article about the original:
Raging Bull Chat Room Devotees Get Dose of 'Whopper'
By Robert Kowalski
Staff Reporter
11/9/00 3:12 PM ET
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/tech/internet/1165692.html
If anyone needed further proof that Internet bulletin boards attract fools like winged vermin to a Shell No-Pest Strip, Steve Tracy offered it last week when he publicly "confessed" online that he was being paid to bash stocks.
In the week that followed, lots of the gullible folk still apparently didn't realize just how badly they were being had. So badly that Tracy, the originator of the little hoax, was sheepishly wondering if his prank had spiraled out of control.
"In my view, this thing has gotten totally ridiculous," he wrote in an email interview. "While at first I was pleased at the reception it received, I am quite dismayed that so many people would believe what I had thought to be an obvious joke."
The fun began last Wednesday when Tracy, who goes by the Internet alias firebird_1965, posted a tome entitled, "Confessions of a Paid Basher", on Raging Bull.
Tracy posted the purported mea culpa with considerable fanfare, including a message-by-message countdown to its launch.
In the missive, he came clean in gushing prose about what many of the conspiratorial types have suspected for months about the Internet message boards: He claimed he was being paid to bash stocks as part of an orchestrated effort to drive their prices down. He said he worked for a boiler room operation called Franklin Andrews Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, Conn.
He said he was ashamed and wanted to be able to look himself in the mirror again. "I'm too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds," he wrote.
OK, that kind of talk usually brings a skeptical smirk to any reporter's face. This is Raging Bull, after all, not the Little Sisters of the Poor. And there were other red flags fluttering around this tale.
There is no listing for Franklin Andrews in the Stamford phone directory. No sign of it in standard corporate records databases either. One clever observer later noticed a pattern in the first initials of each name in the firm when linked together: F-A-K-E.
"Come on, that's as obvious and silly as those acronyms they used in the old 1960s spy movies," Tracy said.
There was also a nearly identical posting of a so-called paid basher confession on another message board site with a different name for the supposed boiler room. Then there was the clincher. At the bottom of Tracy's "confession," well past the signature (for anyone who bothered to continue scrolling), read this innocuous line: "And if you believe this -- lol."
In Internet posting lingo, "lol" is short for "laughing out loud."
Bingo.
But that's the part no one picked up initially when they electronically copied the confession and began posting it all over other message board sites under headings for at least a dozen different stocks.
Those included boards for Urbana(URBA:OTC BB), Sun Microsystems(SUNW:Nasdaq), Cyber-Care(CYBR:Nasdaq) and WaveRider Communications(WAVC:Nasdaq).
"It put 'bashers' in a whole new light for me" one person wrote in a posting on Raging Bull.
Tracy claims on his Raging Bull profile to be a 35-year old Texas marketing consultant with an MBA who likes "fast cars, faster women." But we know how much to believe about what he says online.
Still, in an email interview, he said: "I would ask that it be made clear ... that I am not a paid basher."
"The truly sad thing is that after learning it was a put on, some of these people still want to believe it was part of some grand conspiracy," he said. "My suggestion to these people is: Don't go to Burger King for a while -- you've already had your share of Whoppers!"
http://www.thestreet.com/pf/tech/internet/1165692.html
Fog has updated the original. I do love the Global Calumny Funds.
Tears of laughter!! The original of "Confessions of a Paid Basher" is a parody from, I think, 2000. It got written up in TheStreet.com.
Since then, suckers have fallen for it over and over and over again.
Here's the "source" cited in the GWGO PR.
http://www.telecentro.pt/forum/ler_questao.asp?qt=160&varid=3
lol, a MESSAGE BOARD??
Yes, and with only two weeks left to go...
It has nothing whatsoever to do with ordinary shorting.
Can you say shorts!!!
No, not really. Evidently you have no clue what derivatives are, and how they work.
Greenspan's probably right, but then people have been warning about dangers in the derivatives markets for years.
lol, so it seems. And the big diluters are in big favor just now.
Do they use calendars in Britain?
Nope. They use Stonehenge.
I especially loved today's PR about the Evil Nekkid Shorts. I think the company may come to regret its eagerness to tell the world that it hasn't filed any registration statements.
To: AsturiasPh.D/MBA who wrote (93410) 11/18/2005 9:45:36 AM
From: scionist Read Replies (2) of 93910
GWGO and Stephen LUMB -
LUMB plum in the firing line again
The Sunday Times - Business
The Sunday Times November 13, 2005
Prufrock
LUMB plum in the firing line again
THE mystery surrounding Stephen LUMB, the playboy chairman of St James Holdings, deepens. He is already facing allegations of being a bad payer of debts, and last week investors in Hanover, a shell company controlled by LUMB, claimed he was a bad businessman, too.
Among complaints at Hanover was the allegation that he had failed to distribute the company’s assets to shareholders as he had stated in public announcements.
There’s little the 7,000 private investors could do. One, who decided to tackle LUMB directly, was threatened with legal action, and told in an e-mail that St James Holdings would be taking control, so it didn’t matter anyway.
LUMB insists he is being unfairly targeted. He said: “It is success, happiness and huge wealth that counts to me. The jealous, pitiful and unsuccessful unfortunates of this world love to attempt to bring down those they envy, but they’ll never succeed.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-1869271_1,00.html
"It appears that the folks selling are . . . the same folks who are buying!! Just about every transaction GWGO has ever done has involved companies controlled by LUMB selling supposed assets back and forth to each other or companies of unknown ownership that all look very much like the dozens of shells controlled by LUMB (e.g., same country of incorporation, created and/or changed name at about same time, etc)."
By: DC-Steve
17 Nov 2005, 11:55 AM EST
Msg. 7302 of 7302
(This msg. is a reply to 7289 by copperminer2.)
Jump to msg. #
copperminer, not true. Mineral rights are only assets if they give you rights to mine an area with minerals worth mining. That is, the rights must apply to mineral reserves that can be mined economically (i.e., profitably). Rights that don't contain reserves one can mine at a cost lower than the revenue produced by the mine are worthless.
And what has GWGO said about the reserves of the rights it has acquired? When it says anything at all, it always says the same thing: the acquired rights have "no proven reserves." That's a quote. A repeated one from GWGO.
And THAT'S WHY GWGO's very own financial statements declare unambiguously that they HAVE NO ASSETS!!!!!!!!
You can take a wild ass guess and pin your hopes and dreams that the dubious characters behind this company really have acquired valuable rights that will some day appear on their balance sheet. AND you can dream that they will some day acquire some financial resources that will allow them to ACTUALLY START mining operations of some sort, some day. But why would you?
First of all, all the players behind GWGO have exceedingly shady histories that suggest scamming investors from South Africa to Great Britain to the US of A is their primary profession. Second, they didn't pay anything to acquire the mining rights other than stock in GWGO. And GWGO stock, as you tacitly admit when you say their only assets consiste of mining rights, has no value without the rights.
Now stick with me here if you can. Put it together and this means GWGO is telling you that they bought valuable rights with stock that had no value without the rights. Do you really think this is possible? Now who do you suppose would be dumb enough to sell them something of value in exchange for something that had no value without whatever was sold?
It appears that the folks selling are . . . the same folks who are buying!! Just about every transaction GWGO has ever done has involved companies controlled by LUMB selling supposed assets back and forth to each other or companies of unknown ownership that all look very much like the dozens of shells controlled by LUMB (e.g., same country of incorporation, created and/or changed name at about same time, etc).
It's a shell game, dummy. How much more obvious could it be? They took a worthless Nevada shell and used its worthless shell stock to buy (often from themselves) worthless shell companies with their worthless mining rights. And they concocted an unnecessarily complex web of offshore fronts to hide the fact that they were usually selling this crap to themselves.
Actually, they were selling it to whoever was foolish enough to invest in GWGO believing it actually was or some day would be a real mining company. The GWGO principals will simply cash out on their worthless assets by selling worthless shell stock to people who don't understand the difference between a mining company and a pyramid scheme posing as a public corporation.
And you, we now know, are intent on helping them pull this off in any small way that you can. How sweet.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=GWGO&read=7302
where do u think paypal system came from same company
What on earth makes you think that?