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Sold & shipped by KosherVitamins.com... (By third party). Ain't No New Thing!
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IMO, No Scam, just mismanaged!
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Penny, BIEL doesn't have to mass market initially in order to get the word out on Actipatch. They could target market, which could be segmented and regional. Thus, they could start with a limited campaign and grow the scope of their marketing footprint as funds are generated. IMO, BIEL could do this with Whelan pocket change, so to speak. For, as I understanding it, there is at least one family member who is a multi millionaire.
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FDA can drag it's feet on clearance because there is no pressure on them to do otherwise. The vast majority of the public don't know that Actipatch exists. So, that fact alone allows the FDA to reject BIEL's clearance requests with impunity. They know there will not be a backlash from the public, for the public is in the dark regarding this product. The sad and puzzling reality regarding this situation is BIEL seems to be cooperating with the FDA's behavior.
Really Disturbing!!
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You have made a most saliant point... "they sell quite well.", in Canada. As far as I know, Canada doesn't have an FDA. So, what's the problem here in the states? If we are honest with ourselves, we all know the source of the problem, and it resides within Mahogany Row. No Doubt!
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Well, Friday has come and gone and there's nothing to report on FDA clearance. What's New?! Sad to speculate negatively, but IMO, nothing on this will be forthcoming anytime soon. Regrettable!!
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Well, have facebook and Youtube generated a significant increase in sales for BIEL's product to date? If there are signs of this, I would be very happy to render a "My Bad" on my position.
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BIEL, you need to get your product in front of the masses, maybe on network TV. Hmm! That's a novel idea BIEL, wouldn't you say?
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Sad! Sad! Sad! Sorry "YouTube" ads!
Is anybody else irritated by this second rate stuff?
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Well, the FDA has to come through by tomorrow. If if doesn't, then the approval probably won't happen. As I recall, the FDA pulled this same tactic during the previous clearance request. Thus, they waited a week, or two before the approval target date and asked for additional info. Of course, shortly thereafter, they delivered the bombshell... the Approval Rejection! If they don't declare approve tomorrow, or Monday thereabouts, then you can reasonably stick a fork in the current approval request, IMO.
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What Ad? Please copy and post it!
BIEL does not have their politics in order. Apparently, they are not sophisticated enough to get this done. The ball is in their court, it's been in their court for a long time now. That's my take!!
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If the clearance doesn't come by Friday, then that train is bound for something, but I don't think it's glory. This will be another colossal failure by the CEO, and his merry helpers.
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Art, well said and I agree!
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Simpsonly, good suggestion! Now we have to, some how, contact Dr. Staelin.
Don't understand the premise of your post. What about the post to which you are referring?
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P-Tiger, I agree. The FDA would be an insurmountable juggernaut if it's confronted with just demands coming from a bunch of shareholders, and a small company. I get it! But what I'm proposing is the formulation of a nationwide stink ball, which would expose the FDA's Actipatch stonewalling campaign. The whole country is acutely aware of the need for a product like Actipatch. I'm confident if the public, at large, were made aware of the dirty little secret of the FDA's behavior of stonewalling BIEL, they would make their voices heard with outrage. Let's do this!
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P.S. BIEL needs to have their ridiculous behavior exposed, as well!
Maybe if relevant stock info platforms (e.g., one being Motley Fool) are informed about what's going on here with BIEL, from a shareholder's point of view, this might set a fire under BIEL to get its house in order. It's just a thought!
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Yes, I agree! Curve balls are being thrown around all over the place by BIEL and the FDA. This stuff needs looking into by an entity with investigative talent. But in the meantime, we shareholders should challenge BIEL's management in whatever way possible. Of course, as shareholders, we are in a weak position to make a serious impact on corporate behavior, as per our current situation. But please, let us not wait around like sheep and be financially slaughtered by these, to be generous, incompetents, but at worst, tricksters, mountebanks, etc. This fiasco is happening in real-time, right in front of us, so there is no excuse for sitting idly by and not do something. I propose a plenum group to be formed, through this board. This group will be the vanguard for shareholder issues, and concerns. We must organize folks! It will be totally transparent, for its activities will be conducted via board access and interaction. If this proposal is prohibited by board policy, than we should get this under way off line. Do I have any volunteers? Something has to be done, and done now, or we will lose it all without a fight. Our clarion call should be... We Fight! We Fight! We Fight!
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I agree! Well, maybe it's not a scam, but if it walks like a duck... well we all know the expression. But even if none of the aforementioned suspicion notwithstanding, for certain this behavior of BIEL's management is not normal. If BIEL would just advertise and/or give public pronouncements about the merits of its product, on whatever platform(s) to be had by BIEL, thus, this would put a lot of public pressure on the FDA to do the right thing . But BIEL won't do anything to promote its product. Apparently, BIEL is not even trying to protect its product from unscrupulous GPs, who reportedly, are engaged in thwarting potential customers from purchasing its product. Why is this happening?! Maybe the SEC should be notified and asked to look into this astonishing behavior of BIEL's management. Maybe the FDA is a co conspirator, who knows.
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We all should be asking, why are they not promoting their product? Something is seriously wrong here!
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"Non-drug treatments like Actipatch have been backed up by clinical trials and are available for GPs to prescribe all over the country." Now that's a very, very, very, significant statement pulled from that article. But apparently, the reality of that statement is lost on GPs all over the world. For apparently, they are not making Non-drug treatments products like Actipatch conveniently available for their patients. There were several people in that article who expressed understandable frustration by not being able to obtain Actipatch, even though the product should be readily available via prescription. Can one say "Deep State" control! As I have stated in the past... BIEL doesn't have their political ducks in a row. Big Pharma is a great big ole bully straddling the sidewalk and BIEL ain't going to past unless they get help from high places, if you know what I mean. IMHO!!
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Maybe it did! Is it an FDA policy that the clock stops upon FDA request for additional info? Considering the historical interaction between BIEL and the FDA over the years, one would assume the info the FDA is requesting shouldn't be that extensive to cause a reset of the initial 90 day soft deadline. IMO!!
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Well, next Friday is the 90 day deadline, per the recent 510(k) submission by BIEL. If the clearance doesn't come through by then, IMO, it's not going to happen. Ya know, this just might be last last hurrah for BIEL, IMO. My premise is based on the following reasons. First of all, the CEO apparently, only believes a successful "acid test" from the FDA is the only thing worthy of a PR. Furthermore, he has a dogged aversion toward advertising. Thus, asking for failure! He has two FDA approved Actipatch derivations in his back pocket for two years now, if I'm not mistaken, and what did that get us? Presently, having front-runner status, in regards to the technology, IMO, could be lost sooner than one might think. For, the image in the rear view mirror of the competition is closer than you think". We have a winner in Actipatch, IMO, but the game is being thrown. Maddening!!
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P.S. The Actipatch patent time limit is being frittered away, day by day! Sad!!
"ActiPatch Pain Relief Group now up to 2505 members!! Wow!" Hmm! That doesn't seem like a big number to me, considering the potential and need of this product.
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The first proper clinical trial was conducted by physician James Lind on scurvy, in 1747. By now, if properly informed, one should be able to get it right, don't ya think? One would assume, the FDA has disparate guidelines to match the myriad of product type to be considered for approval. Thus, one would assume the FDA has a entry criteria and an exit criteria for all of its trials/studies (assumed publicly available documentation). On top of it, one would also assume, there would be allowances for interim communication, or otherwise clarification discussions during the breadth of a clinical trial/sturdy between the FDA and the subject organization applying for approval. So, I don't get it! Why can't they get this stuff right? Oh, Well!
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It will be interesting to see what comes next!
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BIEL is in perpetual deal making and negotiation! Oh, Well!
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That 90 day window for clearance (12th of this month) is almost closed. If it does not happen for BIEL within this window, then it won't happen, IMO.
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What is the agreement filed with the SEC? Who is selling the patents and intellectual property?
Thanks!
PR! PR! You don't need no stink'n PR.
That's so true! All beware! There are lots of crooks roaming around in penny stock space, for sure.
Ya, whatever happened to that fellow, Ron? It's a real sad state of affairs for him, for sure!!
Well, so what if the SEC Commission has charged someone? From my vantage point, there isn't any funds to be realized for the shareholders, IMO. It's all gone folks! That realization ought to be accepted by all concerned. Sorry!
It's all over! Everything is all gone! That's It!!!!!!!!
I've moved on, and the rest of REVO's investors should do the same. It was a great try, but it just didn't workout for us investors, unfortunately.
JM, they got me at first too. It's just fun and games, when tears would be the other option. Very funny guys!
I thought REVO was taken away from Ron. So, you are saying Ron still owns the company, well, at least what's left of it, and patents as well?
Only Ron knows.. what?
When will revo sell what?
Who, or what is this Ali guy. Well, I guess one thing we do know for sure, he is a habitual criminal. Another thing, wonder why Ali used the alias Richard M. Carter? Also, maybe he used that name as a slight toward Mr. Ron Carter. Oh, by to by, does anyone know if Ron Carter was implicated in any way, regarding fraud charges?