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Oh, really! Just how recent is this post/article, I didn't see a date associated with it?
This is an old rumor, isn't it? If it's not fresh news on BIEL, you would do us a favor by not posting it, please!!
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Believe it when you see it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mo, IMO, one of the most puzzling aspects of this entire BIEL saga is the absence of a serious populous promotional campaign of its product(s), during the entire history of the company. This Is Extraordinary! When owning a product, which some have referenced as a transformative medical device, and you can't find your place in the marketplace. My Goodness! BIEL'ers all, maybe you should just touch your chin with your forefinger and go, Hmmm!
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If no one knows you exist, then no sales. Simple!!
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As I recall, didn't daughter Whelan communicated with someone on this board, and thus, explicitly blame the govt shutdown for BIEL's failure to submit a 510(k) to the FDA? Do I have that right? Now, if I indeed have it correctly, you know what I'm thinking... ya, that's right. Yes, a followup inquiry for Ms Whelan should be in the queue. Thus, the question should be something as per the following... Ms. Whelan, now that the FDA is up and running, there will be a 510(k) submission to the FDA, immediately, right? Her answer should be very interesting. A little "soft-shoe" is about all we will get!
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Yeah! I hear ya! Maybe we all should LOL, because this situation
is a BIG, unmitigated, joke!!
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It's day 4 following the FDA reopening its doors for business after govt shutdown, and BIEL still has not submitted a 510(k). Oh, yes, and no communication to the shareholders, on top of it! Way To Go, BIEL!! As I always reiterate... you are consistent, if nothing else!
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From my POV, what BIEL is doing is pretty consistent and predictable!
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Art, you wouldn't think if the FDA received inferior trial data from an applicant, and that would expect the FDA to grant clearance, would you? Hmm... probably not! But, that's what apparently happened! Kinda curious, hah!
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"B", the following is an earlier post of mine, is it prescientt or not?
I quote me: "I wouldn't bet on BIEL submitting any 510s, immediately anyway, now that the FDA has opened its doors. I predict shareholders will experience a relatively protracted period without any information on submittal(s). But eventually, they will announce a slick, pitiful, excuse why they will not submit a 510(k), at this time. Well, that's my take! Now, let's just lean back and see if I'm some kind of "Crystal Gazer" of the highest order."
These people are consistent if nothing else!
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Leak news about what? Please, don't be cryptic!
It's day 3 following the FDA opening its doors for business after govt shutdown, and BIEL still has not submitted a 510(k).
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Waiting for BIEL's 510(k) FDA submission! It's not going to happen folks, at least, not anytime soon. The govt shutdown gave them additional time to get their ducks in a row, but what happened? Well, A Big Fat Nothing Happened, that's what!! Yes, they are consistent, you must give AW and his co-horts that!
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PPS @ "0.0008" It doesn't matter how you BIEL it, this stock is in a piteous state.
GLTA, because we're going to need it!!!
What's new about this information? One might get the feeling that some of us are reaching. I say, let the chips full where they may, for there is very little a shareholder can do, other than that, at this stage.
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What stock to which you are referring?
Yes GG, we will find out soon enough, indeed! To be honest, I really hope you are correct; they have already submitted their 510(k) request(s). But if they have not as of yet, hopefully, they will take care of that little item in very short order.
Ya know, it's unfortunate but for a lot of us, BIEL needs to employ a serious overhaul process in regards to its credibility, IMHO.
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I wouldn't bet on BIEL submitting any 510(k), now that the FDA has opened its doors, well, not immediately anyway. I predict shareholders will experience a relatively protracted period without any information on submittal(s). But eventually, they will announce a slick, pitiful, excuse why they will not submit a 510(k) at this time. Well, that's my take! Now, let's just lean back and see if I'm some kind of "Crystal Gazer" of the highest order.
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"Isn't that the way? When you brace yourself to face what's coming at you from the front, the unexpected comes up from behind and bites you in the ass every time!"
- (To Paraphrase) From The Naked Spur -
This stuff is useless, worthless, old news. All these second rate trials are just misdirection, sleight of hand, performed by the CEO, IMO. Ya know, kinda getting a bad feeling regarding where BIEL's leadership is taking it. I hope my intuition fails me!
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BIEL's leadership is apparently focused on maintaining an income stream that's not based on the promotion and sell of the company's product(s). To prove the latter, I proposed that, we, the Actipatch faithfuls, all over the world, establish a product promotion/Ads group. This group will be a temporary plenary to confirm our belief in this product. Hopefully, the results of our action will apply pressure to BIEL's management to fulfill their corporate responsibilities, which include fiduciary obligation to shareholders. This effort will be limited in scope (i.e., market segmentation), operated as a marketing test model, at relative low cost. If there is an interest in this endeavor, then let's hear it from you Actipatchers. Thus, details on how the group will be constructed, will be forthcoming, if there is strong interest in this proposal.
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Now DD, I agree with the gist of your post. Thus, BIEL's leadership is apparently focused on maintaining an income stream that's not based on the promotion and sell of the company's product(s). To prove the latter, I proposed that, we, the Actipatch faithfuls, all over the world, establish a product promotion/Ads group. This group will be a temporary plenary to confirm our belief in this product. Hopefully, the results of our action will apply pressure to BIEL's management to fulfill their corporate responsibilities, which include fiduciary obligation to shareholders. This effort will be limited in scope (i.e., market segmentation), operated as a marketing test model, at relative low cost. If there is an interest in this endeavor, then let's hear it from you Actipatchers. Thus, details on how the group will be constructed, will be forthcoming, if there is strong interest in this proposal.
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Sorry, but BIEL is only using technology that has been around for more than 30 years, they just miniaturized it. There are noted companies that are pouring loads of money into this technology. This financial attention is based on the projected booming market, in the coming years, that this technology presents. So, I think your position on this product is materially groundless. My personal beef is with BIEL's management, not the product.
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DB, it's hard for me to believe someone could be this incompetent. There just maybe some sick plan that's being
played out here. I can't imagine what it could be, but this
whole thing smells to high heaven. To have a product like Actipatch, which has proved itself to be highly affective in relieving pain, but the owner/seller has failed to secure a market share for it. What? Why? Something is definitely
wrong here, but what? Thus, where is the MacGuffin?
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Well, if you say so! But is BIEL advertising in the UK? BIEL can say they hired a consulting group, but where is the proof? Producing and presenting ADs speak for itself. But word-of-mouth, in BIEL's case, maybe one should take that with a grain of salt. Furthermore, when the FDA finally opens its doors, BIEL should be one of the first to file their 510(k). This should be done within days, not weeks or months. If they don't do this in a reasonable amount of time (i.e., a few days), then we know they are lying to us, full stop. Actually, the gov't shutdown has given BIEL more than enough time to get their ducks in a row. There is no accuse, as per this situation!!
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So what! What does this AD have to do with Actipatch? LOL!!
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Basically, management is not trying to promote/sell their product, not even a little bit for starters. There are a few other things that could be discussed, but those can be addressed later. But at the moment, please Mr. AW, don't give us that poor-mouth, "I ain't got no money to advertise" routine. That just doesn't fly, if considering that position logically and realistically speaking!
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Maybe someone should inform the SEC regarding the suspicious behavior exhibited by this company? There is enough information available to formulate a convincing narrative of BIEL's suspicious behavior to possibly pique the SEC's curiosity.
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Her single response and her choice not to acknowledge any of your other questions, is quite suspicious. But why would anybody want to stifle their own product sales potential? It makes no sense, unless they are making lots of money by doing otherwise!! But I can't imagine the other BIEL officials and associates (i.e., VPs, PHDs, etc.), as having a hand in anything untoward, infelicitous, or actionable actions committed by the "Family".
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If BIEL seriously promote/advertise, then why not? Hypothetically, if BIEL's product were marginally effective, they would be able to make a lot of money if promoted properly, for a time anyway. I would take bets on that!! How can anybody sell to a prospective customer, if that customer doesn't know you even exist. I have problems with BIEL, but those are with management, not with the potential of its product(s).
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All BIEL should do is hire that "Pillow Man" to do a few commercials for them. I would bet on the "Pillow Guy" to have BIEL in the black in no time flat. The "Pillow Man" is the Man!!
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Well, if BIEL's CEO would just advertise, the odds are there wouldn't be any need to hope for a saving grace buyout. IMHO!!
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Ok! But wouldn't Johns Hopkins do? Just Saying!
Well, Ok! But why go half way around the world to
Tripoli, Lebanon, no less, to perform this study? Just Asking! Nonetheless, the hope is everything works out fine for BIEL as per this endeavor.
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Yep, and very few people know that these remarkable devices exit!
So Sad!!
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Well, there you have it, and I agree! Furthermore, if what you state is indeed a fact, then what the CEO is perpetrating constitutes fraudulent behavior. Of course, this activity should be called out, and dealt with!
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Art, I second your position!
As far as I know, Revo isn't making any money! So why should it hang around?
PW, you make great points! Furthermore, BIEL doesn't promote their HealFast product for pets/horses either. I just recently purchased a few HealFast devices for an in-law of mine. He has show horses and sometimes they suffer a little soreness from rigorous training, and thought HealFast could possibly help. Of course, my in-law had never heard of the product prior to me introducing it, to him. Unbelievable!! The CEO of BIEL and his management staff should be ashamed of themselves. IMO, this is purposely done, but for what reason? Well, your guess is a good as anybody's! Oh Well!!
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Why do people continue to poo-poo BIEL's qtrly sales numbers as a bases for judging the company's viability. At this point, one can't view sales metric to project anything regarding future market success, as it relates to the company's potential. Management, for whatever reason, up to this point, has chosen not to advertise! Go Figure! Please don't give me that poor-mouth... "I ain't got no money to do that routine, jive!", that just doesn't float, IMO! Practically no one knows BIEL exits! This situation has to change before BIEL can make any progress in the way of improving sales. Thus, that responsibility my friends, should be placed at the doorstep of the individual at the top. Full Stop!! IMHO!
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