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Explore small cap ideas before they hit the headlines.
And then again he may not be worried because maybe he's connected enough to know when the coast is clear as to execute flips with confidence, while the rest of us live under the mushroom effect.
-just sayin'
7.16 x 7.17
Loco - Not overly smart, just experienced.
Yesterday there was some pretty liberal B/A increases when buys registered in an attempt to prime things a bit, but the strength wasn't there today for continuance and the shorts took them to task.
(No, not me I didn't short, I'm just a long who's observing)
Still ONVO wants to dilute (at higher levels) so I suspect some fuel will still again be squirted into the carb prior to crank-over to goose things along prior to announcing availability and some early wins.
I'm not a short, bank that.
But it's common for small companies to use promoters - been there, done that.
Have a good evening.
Thanks I noticed that also.
Whoa yeah...
Onvo is small but known. That's why you have 200 funds holding this. I've been saying for a few days now, we're creeping towards miletone dates and there's no leaks, no anticipations in the market. Volume is ordinary...should I instead yawn?
Someplace in November marks my 1 year HOLDING this. I'm a crappy trader, so don't even pin that on me. And I'm not a short player.
Ur getting a little testy yourself in throwing the caps around and name calling. Maybe projecting a little angst?...
Relax,
Have a good day.
Whoa Cowboy!, relax...
OK, now for the other 2.
On the contrary, I would expect a better probability here for a more solid answer - you have 3 moderators here, at least one is a promoter (or is maybe internal IR themselves) who should be able to give you some type of answer, and if they're not IR, they are at least under the direction of the company - and therefore should be able to respond with knowledge.
Well aware, I have that link:
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/onvo/institutional-holdings
Thanks
If I have that much influence in my posts, then I guess I better start a stock pumping business.
But many moons ago I paid very stiff (financial and personal) tuition at Hard Knocks Stocks University with a CEO and supporting IR cast that were very skilled at deception and rode *just this side* of the law.
Never again buddy - I question all.
Yeah, I think I understand the capabilities (as a novice to pharma), and I understand the timelines for meaningful growth, but I'm expecting to be seeing a slight ramp here. Turning the corner to production and revs. Yes we've been getting dicked around (hoping past tense) with a 10% correction. I'm hoping that's enough of a slam to keep the natives on wall street happy for a while.
I'll contest the argument "not all stocks are the same". The fundamental objective is the same: provide a return on investment to the shareholders. Already been hints at dilution (sure, accept that), optimistic ones are betting dilution down the road after rise. Throw a dart on when that's going to be? we have @ 18 months by my calcs of burn left at CURRENT levels. Decisions are made well before hitting the wall....
Meaningless to me. If a stock is getting hot and action is coming, it doesn't matter where it sits: pinks, nas, etc... if it has leaks it will rise.
Your argument said it rose 1% along with the dow. Actually, it just "Risen with tide", so really this stock has done nothing.
My argument is this: based on where we are in time, there *should* be anticipation growing in the form of volume. From what I can see, there really isn't anything cresting...volume speaks to it continuing to drift and be manipulated with. We keep getting toyed with and bet against.
I've been holding this stock for well over a year. I'm looking for results to over come the manipulation and am looking to see shorts get realities rammed down their throats. It's time, now.
Sorry for the tone, I'm getting damn tired.
Ridiculous argument - this isn't a dow stock, this is a smallcap.
And Interactive Brokers is showing only 95,000 shares available to short (typical 3-400,000)
Seems others are noticing the low (comparative) volume to both typical levels, and more importantly for a company supposedly "closing in on sales announcements" seem to be coming to similar conclusions.
CEO's in fledgling start up companies are well known for slinging bullshit in hopes of building momentum, but I just didn't think we had that low of pedigree with this group.
DJI +328
ONVO +.04
Volume meager
This is not behaving the way a company "closing in on sales announcement" acts. Every company has leaks which produce volume in anticipation of....
Get Corporate to start explaining away, or step up yourself and take the mic...
(Disclosure, not a short - holding a damn good amount)
Thank you.
While I (kind of) appreciate the banter supplied here, I realize its *mostly* by paid promoters - most can read through this. It's ineffective at attracting new investment, but really just fodder to retain the few shareholders that do read over here.
Guys - get to the CFO and let him know he and Murph need to throw a little more meat out there.
Sure.
Please guys....we have to have money to make money.
ONVO needs to publish some wins $$$ or significant news. Volume is ordinary, not ramping. SP is languishing. We have officers selling off some small amounts of shares. News from the company is lackluster and the links from amateur sites (SA and Motley fool) are ineffective and reek of covers for additional selling.
The overall signals just don't overwhelm.
For a company that typically beats deadlines in milestones....November is 2 weeks away.
IMO Cramer does not know companies...he knows how to manipulate stocks and how to trick the masses. Big difference.
Yeah, I guess Dweezil Bueller had a plan - that is, until he got punched in the face.
ROTFLMAO
I guess if you think the price is too high, you could start a short position...lol...
I was about to post that a 200,000 share short @ 6.63 leaves him probably near a fire escape ladder, looking to climb up to find a nice jump off spot.
/what did they say about pride cometh before a fall?
Part of the strategy in pro-shorts being able to win the hearts, minds and dollars from retail is to build a negative mindset that will cause the crowd to "herd" in their direction.
So yesterday "The Street" threw together some propaganda loosely targeted at onvo. Reaction was pffft. Today we have our resident handy-dandy hedgie proclaiming he supposedly shorted a couple hund thou shares...I'm gonna stand up and call bullshit on that one, unless it was a quick short - and if it was (and now covered), then I know the long term weakness in this stock is over.
The money boys have to be figuring out by now that the towel's pretty much rung dry working the downside, as the tricks seem to be becoming more weak and the affects more short-lived.
The clock is ticking on the deadline to get long.
Don't worry homeboy, wall street cheat sheet is doing it's goshdarnest to have your back today...
They bash Linkedin, Amazon and then throw up some misinformation about this tiny company with a couple dozen people...surprised anyones paying attention there to us.
Probably more short covering - I suspect they're realizing longs are more resolute at this stage than all the FUD and price predictions they can muster.
Well, there are chartists and notables who are calling for a 10-20% correction...we've gone along time without an adjustment.
So if the rising tide does ebb, then yeah, it would be a shorts paradise, and ONVO (and alot of the overall market) could be driven down by on general market weakness as a temporary measure.
Personally, I don't give a rip, do not wish to try timing, so I won't sell. I'll keep a few grand $ in dry powder to use for the dip, trading out is a non-starter for me.
Collusion? Orchestrated Manipulation?
And all legal?
ROTFLMAO....I can hear Dweezl now (Like "Scotty" from Star Trek), on the phone to his handlers: "There's no more money for shortin', Captain, "THE ACCOUNTS JUST CAN'T TAKE THIS FOR MUCH LONGER!!!!"...lol...
Bet the shorts are cumming in their pants now - they did it, the broke the stock into the 5's. And that won't be good enough, they'll drive it down to 2....or maybe .02, where some mythical gap needed to be filled.
Makes ya want to go to the dark side of investing, give up hope, just view every stock as a bloated pig scam company run by shysters.
So I guess the moral of the story (if you want to make a profit in stocks) is to short: to hell with being an optimist, just be a cutthroat short and the hell with anything that moves up: Every stock is believed to be a bloated pig that has no business trading.
Murphy gave a nice presentation. I suspect the entire reason for the show today was in response to the general investment community (and maybe some high powered shareholders) showing a little anxiousness. (Maybe it was our child millionaire/prodigy poster here on the thread talking about the technicals and his prognostication...and the CFO decided that snot nosed little wannabe wasn't going to peg the downfall of ONVO, so he retaliated, lol...) So anyway, the CFO truly had his ear to the ground, got this presentation organized and hoped it quelled some fears....The 10K this morning was a bone thrown with just enough meat to show that the ONVO employees are not sitting around getting stoned, surfing porn at work
My Personal summary (from a LT shareholder standpoint):
There is no reason to sell - and there is reason to continue accumulation. I heard nothing indicating they're hitting a wall in R&D or are changing their focus - as a matter of fact, they seem to have alot of confidence and seem to be expanding their scope.
I suspect SP will continue to drift, pulled by manipulation and the resulting emotion up and down. I think we're 6-8 months off from seeing sustained SP creep upward. So be it.
Later in the Q and A, Murphy noted a $12M annual burn rate against an approximate $50M capital availability balance. So that averages out to 4 years of working capital/Expense. Realistically, I think it's enough to hold them for a year or two and to also cover Production ramp, expansion, ect... I would bet in another year we see some shares issued, but I hope it's at a point where the SP and volume easily absorbs an increase with little impact to the SP...
I was surfing this early morning when I saw the 10K hit. I read it and was encouraged, monitoring the pre-market. Was a little taken back at the lack of strength after the open and was thinking of taking a small amount off the table at 8.50, but decided to wait for Murphy to speak. Got into work and noticed a 60 cent dip...oh well, too late. Doesn't really matter - I have a fair amount already...why get greedy?...
Back to LT hold, will grab some popcorn and watch the jerk arounds on Yahoo fro a while...
Regards
There was a jump from the low .30's to the low .40's just a few minutes ago.
leaks?
Normally a LTBH kind of guy, a few days back did a short-term flip on some shares, from 8.10, getting back in this morning at 7.72. Good for a few sheckles (and my FSL holdings).
Read the SH letter this am, looking for some confirmation on a piece or all of the KOL results.
Feeling comfortable, even in the event of more bear raids, which is (probably still) inevitable.
Regards
Rising tide lifted the boats today. Also a below average volume day for ONVO.
My guess the push will come on a morning where DJI futures are in the tank, giving the tailwind shorts want so badly to drive it south.
Cramer's sychophants are watching, waiting.
Well then, short away.
Seems like everyone else is doing it.
Read his profile, he's a boy genius.
I have one too...right now he's unemployed.
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