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Yeah it is for SH protection.....did you notice the S-1 was VERY clear....VGE offering WILL NOT be higher than $3 per share....I think some have been making suggestions that it might go higher... the S-1 makes it very clear.....$3 max at offering....with a .47 instant dilution...per the S-1....IF it is offered at $3....anything lower....even further dilution....the SEC is really looking out for SH's....
On 11/19 VSPC said they had 250 acres under cultivation per the pr.....and that they were seeking to acquire more land......great.....the DP Tech deal signed in Sept.....VSPC promised to provide 300 tons of Biomass per day for the live trial that was to take place by the end of the year with DP......per the MOU.....how was VSPC going to provide 300 tons of Biomass per day (it's in the 9/14 pr).....if they only had 250 acres in cultivation on 11/19......per VSPC's pr?.....wouldn't that explain why IR is back tracking on the "live trial".....as per the 9/14 MOU with DP......looks to me like VSPC overpromised.....they couldn't produce 300 tons of Biomass......per day....with 250 acres of land....UNDER CULTIVATION....by years end.....now I know the MOU is non- binding....but do you really think DP would just say....."hey, we don't need a live trial.....the lab test was all we needed......forget the corn starch.....we don't need anymore....so don't order any?".......yeah right......they would test this thing seven ways to Sunday.....at the plant.....LIVE........before trying to run a power plant on grass....of course I could be wrong.....any thoughts.....and hey....have a wonderful day.....thx in advance for your thoughtful responses.....
Spoke with IR a few minutes ago.....before they closed at 4pm.....even though this person did stay a few extra minutes........and they were really excited.....they confirmed what they told me yesterday..... they beleive 2012 may be the year it all turns around......for Ivanhoe Energy.....and VSPC.....do you guys think it's a great idea to have a DR......answering the phone?......India has a lotta peeps that can do that....imho.....btw...someone seems a little sensitive.....
Deal.....btw....I do think you put GREAT effort in what you do.....and you seem to enjoy it.......
Yeah.....4 pm Pacific is 7 pm Eastern....thx for the question....that's what some call .....night....
Uhmmmm.....as I recall....you said.....once it went past James Bond (007).....the next resisitance wasn't until over a penny......blue shy breakout.....sorry I put words in your mouth......please forgive me......I was wrong......for putting words in your mouth.......PLEASE NO ONE SHOULD TAKE THIS AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF "the power of charts"......again my deepest apologies.....pls don't report me.....pls....lighten up......I said you were an nice guy.....I just see a lot of your readings(?) to be off.....I'm sure you have had some sucess.....but of course you always ask...."does it mean that it's going to do that?.....no.....this isn't a crystal ball"....or something like that......you do cover your bases......btw....What is the "POWER OF CHARTS?".......glta.....Happy New Year......and never take me seriously.....
Yes I did speak with IR tonight actually......it seems there is no need for another closing (as was the case for the DP live test).......buying IPA with 233k as 9/30 for 16 mil....even though assets were 3.3 mil according to the S-1......VSPC is so amazed at the orders for GKG......that they might just let (cha)Chang walk.......and buy...I mean overpay for another art company....since they will need the write-off(s).....because the VGE/IPA deal might not be BIG enough....they really didn't want to give me anymore info.....the military is really mad.....VSPC has already let way too much info out.....they basically are saying this....NO TEST.....NO NEED FOR A SECOND CLOSING......it's real HUSH HUSH.....I really had to pull it out of them.....glta.....THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO BUY VSPC OR VGE......and thx for recommending that I call them.....never thought about that.....btw....you never answered my question about Dynario....."Toshiba hasn't announced any plans to sell overseas....you said that they we restricted to only sell in Japan"......can't call IR on that.....that's your story....are you sticking to it?
This guy hasn't had a great track record with my stocks.....he had SGCP going to the moon if it broke James Bond.....007.....it did go to .009.....not exactly the MOON......it's at .0038.....of course I didn't buy until .0031....Friday....I'm a genius.....imho.........as far as BZCN is concerned....I say the fact that he sees a drop.....I see a pop.....glta......
CC tax is a fraud.....and a reality.....I don't need to see a You Tube video to come to that conclusion.....Global Warming is the BIGGEST fraud known to man.....and I don't wont to see it in the USA......BUT......selling CC's in Europe is a reality....there is a market....and SGCP is playing it right now......you are also right..... SGCP is a AU play as well.....If the FROGS and KRAUTS want to plant trees and rice in SL.....works for me......glta
I really thought with the news that came out today that this thing would SKYROCKET.....you know...
1...this thing is BIGGER than we thought....we can't keep up with all the calls we are getting now.....we need more acerage...
2....test....we don't need no stinking test
3....the 2nd lab test was done with DP's sister company....in Europe....
4....postponing a closing is a good thing....especially when you are overpaying for a company buy....12 million dollars...I mean IPA has been great this year so far 233k as of 9/30
5....and the best one.....bashers = big news coming.....they being saying that since September.....wait it did go up....3k @ .023... that's $69.00 plus commission.....glta....Happy New Year....keep us updated on what IR says.....
Now that's funny.......btw almost as funny as the S-1..... pgs 46-67........or as funny as the reason you overpay 12 mil....for 3.3 mil woth of assets......wait.....that makes the S-1 an oxymoron too......good thing VSPC got that extension.....remember.....they can still get one until 2/15......
A good...... horse....isn't that being redundant?......thx
Or you can take them for (VSPC) for thier word......btw....I was asking the longs that believe in VSPC......isn't that what IHUB is about....to discuss the company.....not posters (which is an IHUB violation).....who says I haven't called....and just because one poster says they called (or six)....I'm going to look at it for what it is....a post.....and check it with what I know (the pr released by the company)......when a pr is released and a company says we are going to do this and that.......then a couple of months later......someone says they talked to IR......and it is completely different from the pr......yeah....I'm going to question it.....not the pr....the post......do you really think a post saying "I talked with IR, it's SO MUCH BIGGER than they thought, they need MORE land, VGE to buy all excess acerage in CHINA"...... is the final word.....let's see what the company does........also....I have never questioned the tech.....only the S-1 and the DP Tech pr......released 9/14/09......anyone can read it for themselves.....I have yet to have a good debate on these doc's......I was enlightened with some defintions of goodwill and valuation....."which is the reason you pay 12 mil more for assets" than they are worth....233k as of 9/30....lol.....and then the next response is......I just spoke to IR....glta....Happy New Year....
They don't have enough acerage for the calls?......what calls?......they were to supply at least 300 tons of biomass per day for the test (per the pr dated 9/14).....seems to me the test was to be done over a significant period of time......with a lot of BIOMASS......are you sure you talked to IR? .....for VSPC.....the one doing with the MOU for all those plants potentially......oh....it's BIGGER than that....real hush hush.....if they can't handle the test for DP Tech....how are they going to handle anything BIGGER? .......by further dilution?.....oh yeah VGE.....lol......glta....Happy New Year......
Restricted to Japan?......the pr dated 11/2 from VSPC talking about the patent from Caltech......says that "Toshiba has made no plans to sell the charger (Dynario) overseas,"......why is that to be interpreted as Dynario is "restricted" to Japan?........if the charger did well there, why would Toshiba sell elsewhere?.....
seems to me that is just a testing ground.....it also says the next step for Toshiba is gadgets with embedded cells.....I don't see restrications....I see them ahead of Samsung and VSPC....so far.....imho of course....anyone is free to read the pr......
Who is getting all riled up as you put it?..... btw you are being a little dis-ingenious(?)imho..... in your "NEW" response....I have been asking since last week about the "live test" as part of the MOU in the pr about VSPC signing with WORLD LEADER in Biomass....you brought the 2 test in a lab up....not me.....you even suggested that the results might be announced this week, not me......I was only asking if..... "the test would take place this week?".....per the MOU with DP in the pr.....if you misunderstood my question....."will the live test with DP take place this week.....the last week of 2009.....as per the pr dated 9/14/2009 and the MOU with DP?........I hope that clarifies the question I ask.......thx in advance....glta.....Happy New Year
The PR said it would be tested at a DP plant.....what lab(s) are you referring to?.....and how soon should we get results?...... and how do you keep getting such great info?.....good job
Last year (it's still 2009) I missed some buying opp's on banks stocks.....I did own one briefly......BUT 2010 will be they YEAR of the GOLD stocks imho.......CC is an add on here....AU will be in the $1500 range maybe higher.......the GOV can't keep spending in order to prop up the economy......but it will try....2010 is an election year.......this will benefit AU stocks......glta
Buying opp coming?........1st clue is a selloff.....second clue is VOLUME........??????????
I hear ya......pre market seems to be ticking up....glta
Well good luck to you......I had an interest in Sept.....it was more about Obama.....not VSPC......but he isn't doing enough for the eco-rads.....I thought that might change....I bought only as a momo play.....that's my style......VSPC is years and years away .....imho of anything significant......Chang is a few days away.....from a second payday.....whether there is a second closing or not.....overpaying 12 mil for 3.3 mil worth of assets?.......I have yet to have anyone explain to me WHY VSPC had to do that?......some said 2-3 times earnings....IPA has 233k in rev's ending 9/30......what's the cost of those rev's?.....IPA owes 2 employees 44k......19% of rev's.....Chang owes IPA over $1 mil......What does art have to do with bio-fuels?......I did have some interest in VSPC.....and still do (if there is a test forthcoming?)......if I think any company is about to bust a move.....I'm all over......the S-1 is an eye opener.....I read it out of interest.....I see it for what it is......gave my interpretation.....and have yet to be convinced that I'm reading it wrong......Mick those are my opinions.....everyone has them.....I more than welcome an explanation of why I'm wrong.....again good luck....
Great point......they never said when they would announce the results......IF things go bad....which is possible.....don't announce......or spin it and say that "DP seeks more testing....."
or say that "results to be announced soon".....but then again the pr did say.....a "live test".....I thought live meant live.....it was part of the MOU....which btw is......nonbinding .....glta....Happy New Year.....you never did say how you knew the test was done.....some at the yahoo board said it wasn't......
I'm not sure who the other analyst is......and don't really go on analyst rec's......not saying it's not good to have....cuz it is.....but if you look at yahoo the price target is $1.77.....some one said the same guy had a stock he picked go from .05 to 1.55 when he had a 1.50 target......I'm not sure though......was just jivin' when I wrote the post.....though I do think SGCP is a winner......long term and ....short term ...which is my primary focus......glta
GROWTH......always a good thing......Cramer is right on pps predicts.....what makes BZCN stand out to me is real talks with real people....about real products.....this has been a good economy for fast food (lower priced food)......CKR (Hardee's)plans to expand with 300 plus stores next year in the US plus 300 more international.......I love any business that is expanding in this economy.....looking to fit a niche (i.e. low price goods)....
glta....Happy New Year......btw great job to the passenger that took down the coward on the plane from Amsterdam......I owe you a beer.....
C'mon guys......I'm still sipping the eggnog with Cousin Eddie....
you've got my mind racing......1) a pr about even a small amount of AU......and we rock.......2) a pr on CC....which I can't see under $10 mil in value (and is used to further finance continued AU operations)......and we rock......Let's ROCK.....
That's not 5.6 mil in shares.......they may pay in shares.....but it's $5,600,000.00 or cash equivalent.........in need to re- check.....but I think the value is .001 per share.....that's quite the dilution for VSPC......but I know you guys are looking to 2011 and beyond......couldn't be diluted too much more......could it?.....I mean after all VSPC is riding the back of IPA.....with 233k in rev's ending 9/30(it's in the S-1)........glta....Happy New Year......
Haven't the analyst (who the heck are they) always been suprised by the consumer?.....at least in recent years......the conventional wisdom should be.......don't follow the "so-called" conventional wisdom.......I can see the headlines......"2009 Sales.....Better the expected......analyst say"......"consumers throw caution to the wind".......one of the big winners.....BZCN.....record sales online as HUGE winter storm.....caused by Global Warming.....(and evil corp's....and Sarah Palin).......kept shoppers at home in many parts of the country......glta.....Happy New Year
The total rev's for IPA.....233k as of 9/30....it's in the filing......what profits are you talking about......remember IPA owes 2 employees 44k.....that's 19% of rev's......one employees owes IPA over 200k......Chang owes IPA $1,006,000......how do you arrive at the conclusion that VSPC is using IPA profits?.....thx in advance....Happy New Year.....S-1 is a great read....pgs 46-67.......and pls....don't try to explain it away by giving a long drawn out definition of what "profits" mean.....profits mean you have got something left over.....what's leftover?
Thx for making the arguement I was making this past week......(cha)Chang gets his reguardless......how does it benefit VSPC?......imho......$5.6 mil in shares to Chang......means further dilution......it is by design imho........like I ask in previous post.....Why does Chang get his reguardless of VGE going public?......great post....you did some good DD......Happy New Year
So this is the (2nd) analyst saying SGCP is a $1-2 target.....see yahoo......if only half are right (1)......well.....Happy New Year.....lol
Seem to have two camps here......AU and CC.......take your pick........SGCP has laid the foundation for a solid 2010.....and beyond.......glta.....Happy New Year
Good news will come imho......Happy New Year
You (we) may be right......btw my little trading strategy....play both....I will take profits....and keep a position.....glta.....
Is VSPC a buy for Mon am?.......the live test is suppose to be before the end of 2009.......someone (can't identify posters per IHUB rules) replied that he knew the test was done........did we miss the "live" test?......did it not go well?......the pps keeps dropping?.....I was thinking pps might get a quick pop......might be a chance to make money on VSPC......glta....Happy New Year...
The 21% drop was great for me.....I've been waiting for a week or so now......my entry point was hopefully at .0036.......next thing I know SGCP hit's .0029.....got in at .0031.....I'm not long......(say a year or 2)......I do know this......SGCP can be back to .007's in a flash.......and I may be out just as fast........longs don't look at day to day and tick by tick.....traders do......glta longs.....you have a good stock here imho......you also have a traders dream.......
(I now how to write?).......love ya man....you're funny....pls keep to the rules....we are to keep the post about VSPC....not me.....all the longs here beleive in VSPC.....and I beleive in VSPC as well....that it will go to the .00's in the near future....we shall see......if VSPC goes to the .00's ....I will look at buying at those levels.....I think your position is it will go higher from here.....we shall see....I am down a few hundred on VSPC....others are down much more.....I may get my money back from VSPC....I may not.....it will not define me......it's seems if some make money on VSPC.....it will define them......don't give a stock.....or a poster....that much power.....they are always opp's everyday in the market.......024 is the latest trade on VSPC....on 539 shares....try and sell at .024......good luck....
I don't get your point....I have repeatly said that move interest me.....ck my earlier post...btw it was.....008 to ...0475...from mid March to mid April.....that's where I got my info for the 60% DROP.....like you said....a few pennies means nothing.....it's only a 60% drop.....lot of peeps made money there.....glta....Merry Christmas......ps....I also posted earlier about the pps spike you reference.....next buying opp....00's for VSPC
How in the wide wide world of sports could LONGS take profits on VSPC?.....for 2009......only if they bought in March?......are you already in the eggnog?....if so....get me a cup......glta....Merry Christmas
I think you are saying I'm wrong.....a few misspelled words(ok)....why am I wrong.....btw...someone just spent almost 13 bucks to buy 539 shares....at .024 to rally VSPC up 17%......AWESOME.....what exactly am I wrong about.....remember I rode the short bus to school.....pls be specific.....glta....and Merry Christmas......have fun in Madrid
You too.....thx alot.....a few penny drop means nothing.....oh watch out.....rally going....some other poster was right(can't id posters...agin the rules).....test results must be leaking.....I guess he will have fun in Madrid......