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Looks like the appeal thing upset people after hours.
That is how i understand the sec docs, cap on past damages only!
I agree
I know they have the appeal left, but history shows they backup their examiners. Yes i know about the 640 but it isnt the heart of the ads filter process. Not much of a case with one patent. And it is under review so i would not see a case till after uspto, do u think a judge would let it go to court ? If you think that then i am good but i don't work at a court but i do work with code and filters of code! And my opinion is it is done as far as bringing a new case. Till after the bpai.
Thats right i remember that call very close i was way off i said 350 million, but that was before rejection of the 420 patent. Good call
Thanks i didn't read the order so i didn't know vringo replied.
I don't like the goog got awarded the appellant, vring filed first and at least a day before google i think it was two days though. Maybe google got this judge where they want him! Why didnt vringo get time to reply to googles motion?
Man I am so sick of the people complaining that the stock can't hold gains, when the same people complaining are admitting that they took money off the table. Thats the problem, it is okay for you to take money off the table but not vringo? That is what they did here the 420 was rejected and the case cannot go forward no judge will schedule court with a patent that has been rejected. Vringo was lucky msft settled. Also vring got one hell of a deal, they got technology, and they got money in the bank. Now look at the big picture they didn't draw up docs saying vringo cannot sue the msft partners, I E yahoo. Like nokia did they restricted us to only overseas prosecution of telcos no usa. Also yahoo looking for a different partner maybe the patents is for us to partner with yahoo. Be patient and look for what truly happened we dodged a big bullet because msft could have moved for dismissal of the case pending the appeal of vri go and they would have got it. My opinion. There will be more to this story guaranteed. Big news yet to come and i am glad uou light weights are removing some now so you don't kill the real run like you did today.
Guys, this is great news. They have a patent that has been rejected the 420. That means they couldn't go to court on the patent no judge will let a case go forward. I really didn't think microsoft would settle with knowing the patent got rejected which means no case. They got a great deal and it gives us revenue. Yes i wanted 350 million. But that was not going to happen with the 420 being rejected. Yes i know vringo has an appeal but no promise there google has people in the right places, just look at the scandal happening now. I am also disappoint in the amount but it was a kicka@@ settlement considering their case fell apart on the patent rejection. Jmo
I hope so, it would make a great retirement gift, lol. Sausage would also so send me some lol what do you think about msft settlement you think we hear this week or next ? Do you think hjj rules this week or next? You probably said already and I am sorry i missed it. I wAs thinking june 6th for hjj. Hope sooner though
Thanks jj can't wait to get this party started, love the uptrend.
Cool thanks
Does anyone know if vringo filed the corrected copy yet? If not then i think judge won't rule till after that are am i wrong, just asking thats all.
That is how i am playing this, great post. I do believe they are building something great here and this will be a 30 dollar or more stock in a few yrs.
Thanks i hope you are right, that would be sooo cool to get rr and three days later a settlement from microsoft.
You could be right but let me ask you this would you settle knowinfg the 420 patent has been rejected twice, vringo only has appeal with bpai, so i believe microsoft will wait for the uspto, even though they wilfully infringed there is no case against microsoft right now, judge will not let the 420 into court. We still have the 664 patent against them but it could be rejected also, microsoft waits. My opinon and i think we see them being served this week. Markman will not happen until upto makes a decision this works to microsoft favor right now that is why they havent settled they was not worried about this case with google, they was going to settle their case based on their negotiations with vringo not this case. Yea i have been wrong a lot been right some but this one i believe i am right.
One thing we can count on is the lots of pr from all the shorts getting their support like they normally do, they will release one after the other saying how vringo gets nothing till after appeals etc. how the work around will screw us and how goog will win on appeal. They will try their best to keep this down, don't let them win!!! And also how the patents was rejected !
Yea but if you look at the hires and the grants they match up within three days of the pr, so i predicted there would be a form four for the hire on monday, but i guess they never gave him his stock. Maybe next week i thought it was a sure bet, seemed to be a patern but backfired lol
Never posted there
I was wrong
I was guessing the form 4's because of the new lawyer on monday, they have to report within 72 hr i believe but i guess they did not give him stock yet. So yep i was wrong
I don't want to get in trouble so i will not talk about the meeting anymore. Just was happy to help, but thanks for the words of wisdom i will heed them.
Never thought of that even though it is my friend? I guess i will take that advice don't want to blow vringo chances . Thanks maybe jj or someone can explain weather or not i can talk .
Me and some friends went into googles code and verified that they have not implemented a work around, i posted here and sent what we found to vringo, they contacted my friend today who i suggested they contact because he is the expert here not me, and they are meeting him to go over what we did. So i guess they will use him i don't know or they are looking at how we got the results, don't know they called and and set it up as a confer appointment. Will happen on the 30th of may. They will come to see him at his office. Will post what i know when it happens, I am happy that we could help or what ever info they seek.
Guess who contacted my friend today? Vringo just contacted him to set up a meeting to confer. They will be coming to his office. Glad i sent the info to them about google and the workaround. Good luck fellows will let you know how it goes.
Don' t let him take u away from me!!! Lol like the pic also liked the other! I think june 6th we get ruling.
What worries me is look how crooked the administration is you know that google has people in the cabinet and in congress, maybe that is why we have been delayed so long. Do 't think that someone will call the judge or put heat on him, think about it. 132 congressman contacted the irs, and 9 was demanding they investigate the tea party or they would lose their jobs etc. thats all we have so far. But schumer led the pack and don't think for a min they won't help google. Just something to watch out for.
What worries me is look how crooked the administration is you know that google has people in the cabinet and in congress, maybe that is why we have been delayed so long. Do 't think that someone will call the judge or put heat on him, think about it. 132 congressman contacted the irs, and 9 was demanding they investigate the tea party or they would lose their jobs etc. thats all we have so far. But schumer led the pack and don't think for a min they won't help google. Just something to watch out for.
Make sure your here to apologize when i'm right form 4 will be filed
The rejection is final and they can appeal to the bpai which takes awhile.
I expect form 4's in the next 48 hrs
Ok i see your point, good thought and something to consider.
What are you basing that on? Microsoft to settle when 420 wAs rejected and 664 could be. I dont see it i was one who was touting it not long ago but you have to realize that why settle and lose money if the patents get rejected? They will wait till the uspto rules and that is what is happening with them now. Watch to see them get served this next week and then they will go to hearing and it will be on track for court. But they wont settle till the patents are done being examined now. Jmo! Also i saw post where google will settle when hjj rules. What will they settle for vringo wont reduce the amount ruled from hjj, that is the stupidest thing i ever heard! Gltu
Ok, i misunderstood you post, i have lyme disease and memory and comprehension not so good at times
Hey, I am with ya on that i posted months ago about him ordering a settlement talks and that is when some people pm me about the law and settlement talks. He has to allow it and he did so he don't again. Will he maybe but i think not and i hope you are wrong also, lol but i was told i was crazy but i brought it up several times a couple of months ago. Gltu so watch out for the attacks on you for bringing it up.
So do you think they settle ? When 420 was rejected. I think they wait it is in their best interest.
The judge ordered that in vhc trial because they had no settlement conference before trial, so they had to allow time it is the law, vringo and google had settlement conference before judge stillman who retired the one everyone on this board thinks hjj was to retire it was stillman all along. But no settlement will be ordered because they had time before trial.
No they are not, microsoft wont settle now that 420 has been rejected they will be served and will buy the time to see if vringo wins appeal on the 420 patent. If 664 get approved they may but don't count on it till the uspto appeal is finished. Look for a service doc from vring to microsoft soon. I hope i am wrong but it makes sense if you think about it.
That is so wrong, hjj will not rule based on appeal by vringo, the statement that vringo was prejudiced is so wrong the appeal is for laches has nothing to do with the rr. So your statement makes no sense.
Yea, lol what a three pointer at the buzzer ? Great response. Hope we move some today !