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does anyone know the conversion rate for each ...k,q, and p's?
absolutely agree. im still on the parlay train and the cusip change. funny how sargeant rolled to lehman. maybe the susman surprise is getting ready to be unveiled. cusip number is it. and the screws are locked on the hedgies and NSS's for sure! hi viva!
awesome synopsis Don! i concur....she is a trailbrazer and truly honorable. she will see that shareholders are vindicated. hedgies are in for a rude awakening.
she just kicked the door down for ec to pursue everyone... all 4 hedgies!!! she's showing her hand. hedgies are the scapegoats!!! for now. then jpm will be forced to dismantle when sent into bk later. jmo.
he's got my vote!
br is in need of a diaper and his mommy about now.
bend over hedgies!!! parker in the house. school is now in session! schooling in process.
the fdic wanted rid of the OTS and downed lehman and wamu and gifted them to jpm and gs because THEY were the insolvent ones. then after leh and wmi were locked away in bk hell...fdic turns around and gives more money thru tarp to the "HAVES" and also allow them to now become holding companies. but to clarify the gs and jpm holding companies are now under the FDIC umbrella of regulation now...no OTS to get in the way of the next consolidation of banks (bac), and no protection in bk for any other shareholders from now on because of frank-dodd. the fix was in. congress needed the ots to die because they had no legal means to kill them. "CHEAT AND STEAL" if you cant constitutionally do it. and sell nyse and nasdaq to foreigners so shareholders in every sector have no recourse when they down the market next time, and it can be proven to be mass manipulation to extract wealth from america and "target" companies that dont play the game the govt wants. no one is protected anymore. constiution is circumvented. but the two things going for us and lehman are that we are protected under the constitution on american soil and steven susman is a true constitutional scholar....and did i mention .......HE'S REPRESENTING US!!!!!! go susman.
tepper sold off citi too.
meaningless drivel out of the mouth of a shorter. we will win! hedgies are toast. can you say it with me.....collusion.....fraud....disgorgement.....perjury. and last but not least insider trading.....thats enough to destroy at least 2 hedgies so far. looking forward to the day when sunlight finally scorches these cockroaches. jmo.
also wonder why sorros dropped his hedge fund today. why now? had assoc. with blackrock too. i think things are getting scarey for hedgies right now. wonder if he was in on manipulation of lehman and wamu? i dont think its because of sec etc. jmo.
AMEN TO THAT !!!! i still feel parlay is in play too. how about you? next date for leh 20th aug and barclays delaying the 2 bil return. why? maybe one big global settlement for wmi and leh. "susman surprise" coming imo.
wasnt court to start at 10am but he delayed for 2 hours. (i think so he could coordinate the mm takedown when he gave the "word")then when he came out the first thing out of his mouth was....i "know" there are alot of people listening to these proceedings....and thats when the stock dropped. the p's dropped to 8 and the uqs actually stayed pretty stable because i sold some to gain 500 p's at 8.55/shr.
its sad that these young guns are being used to shelter actions of the upper tier in hedge funds. they think they are making a name for themselves but end up making license plates in prison. i hope they go for the big guns in these hedgies and close them down for good.
i absolutely agree.
ITS TIME TO PIN THE " TALL TALE" ON THE PIG!
cant believe they rebranded citi...now onebank financial. how socialist of them! change the name and they get a clean slate to play another day ....with their record zeroed out,fed window open, american taxpayers hosed. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! only the well connected get ahead by taking advantage and cheating the moral minded corporations and taxpayers.
it was up on youtube too but it was scrubbed also.
i read it. it did exist. on the night of takedown i was watching the old guy with the bowtie...i think his name is kudlow. i thought wamu was an upstanding institution and said somethings rotten in denmark. i pulled up the 3.1a and read it. i put it on my favorites to read again later. by the time i came back from dinner it was totally scrubbed from the fdic website. and it gave me "error link" this message no longer exists...scrivener's error. iron mountain for sure has it. but how did nbc and msnbc know wamu was being taken down before wmi execs even knew? and when wmi filed bk, disclosure of the 4 bil in the bank was disclosed.....ooops. fdic in such a hurry seemed to not see that a bank that was "supposedly insolvent" had more money in it than the "planned" amount jpm had already agreed to pay for it. fdic got caught day 1 with their hand in the cookie jar. scriveners error? i think not. wmi i feel was ready for what was coming. they had a plan for when jpm and fdic came with the battering ram. how could you file bk as fast as wmi did unless they had the attorney and paperwork ready. fdic had no time to transfer title of anything...thus the scrivener's error. but jpm went on to perpetuate the fraud by stealing the holding company blind. i guess they figured we'll throw a huge boomerang in this whole scenerio and make them prove what we took. it should take about 3 yrs or so and we should be out of our insolvency by then if we are made it give the assets back. thats my take...opinions?
i like your idea. when you buy a car you get a "carfax"....why not a bank? show me the "bankfax!" they will never do it though. they say the "cost of doing business" is the corruption and schemes used to take down their competition. if,as a bank, youre not better than your competition ...cook up something to cut them at the knees! also steal them blind, squat in their banks and claim possession is 9/10ths of the law!!! and keep the perpetual lawsuit going, as long as the corrupt fdic and congress keep changing legislation, to keep you well funded in kickbacks so you can effectively become executioner for the govt so their hands stay clean. works for jpm...for now.
i absolutely agree that this whole deal will be undone. wmi filed bk before anything was transferred. jpm is effectively "squatting" in all the banks they have yet to pay for and are holding home titles in limbo that they are not the originators but servicers of. they are holding the foreclosure market hostage. without clear title none can transfer. they sold some wmi assets without judge's knowledge....that rosen said they didnt. seems to me without a 3.1a they have no clue, effective contract, or standing in this matter. jpm's greed and fdic's quest for ultimate power over banks is what got us here. truth, justice, and the rule of law are going to bring us out. and to the "chop shop analogy" i do not agree. jpm "veneered" over wmi banks. the bank and land under them have not changed. the prime locations are the same. take the veneers off and wamu is back in business. it seems that jpm is letting alot of employees go in california and florida. maybe they have been told they must vacate. we'll find out soon enough. jmo.
they may not have a choice if susman shows that the hedgies were in collusion with jpm and fdic to take down the competition for their monetary gain, destruction of the OTS, absolute economic destruction and politically motivated crisis to get tarp to pay jpm bills around the world with taxpayer monies. jpm was the one in trouble of collapse not wamu!
i still believe fdic "gifting" of wamu to jpm will be undone. i feel susman is going to pull the merger card with lehman holding and change the cusip number to out the crooks with the air shares. jpm will then be forced into bk to return assets stolen from wmi. jpm cant sustain their lies. with all the lawsuits stacking up and the short positions in gold and silver, they are unable to get out of, they need to be sacrificed to save the rest of the fed from the same fate.jmo.
maybe the 77 i thought was share price is actually the date 7-7! we'll see soon. especially with sheila bair leaving the 8th...maybe so. a picture i took showed the 7 7 in it. you see it there in the box beside my sf name. i dont know what you can see by clicking on the box but the picture i took is there. and it shows this 77. i took it back in april.
toast is right!!!
man of not so many words. g'night oil. happy 4th!!! going to celebrate my freedom with some chinese fireworks. see something wrong with that picture? lol. oh, and speaking of chinese ...who here thinks the govt is frauding us about everything being imported from china? i think its cheaper to ship the "made in china" labels and boxes to "re-label" the goods in america and canada, than totally manifacturing from scratch over there. i just dont believe my texas cowhide leather couch was made as well as it was from china. its for sure made in america with a made in china label slapped on it. "psychological warfare by our govt and perpetrated on american citizens to psych them out to feel lesser than. jmo.
nothing will change until the fed reserve is destroyed...once and for all. GOD BLESS AMERICA. if we have God with us who can come against us? no one! people need to grow a spine and stand for what is right. i am. my kids freedom from tyranny depends on me and all americans to stand up and clean up the evil corruption!!! how can our kids fight this without us? they are clueless to the manipulation our govt is imposing on them from tv and history books etc.jmo.
best way to prosecute criminals is to catch them in their own lies and even better.....ON RECORD!!!! she's not going to rule. she doesnt have to. rosens going to show as conflicted out....i feel susman will definitely bring this to light if no settlement. and the hedgies just by trading records alone will have orange jumpsuits waiting in the wings...but not before susman gets them for collusion with fdic and jpm to not only share in the spoils after raping shareholders,but helping fdic to destroy the OTS. the only way they could render OTS totally dead was to effectively "stun,bleed,kill and dismember" the banks with holding companies they regulated! thus fdic becomes the BIG KAHUNA! talk about totalitarianism. and dont get me started about the IMF. did you see....the maid is not credible now. total setup from the beginning imo to get their cronies in the IMF so the U.S. can be "puppeteer from afar." can you see the total setup of the U.S. and the world for that matter,into the new world order? my opinion our govt is allowing the wall street criminals to run rampant, then they are going to turn around and "make an example of them." USE THEM AND LOSE THEM after their agenda is achieved. wasnt that how jp morgan made his fortune to begin with? by setting up the enemy? now our govt is using the same playbook! i still look for dimon to remain GOLDEN. he sold his house at a loss. little hermie (timmy) is on his way out soon (fallguy), and dimon will take the reigns at treasury. (he's got too much dirt on everyone and knows where the bodies are buried imo and will not go down.)then we're truly screwed as a nation!!! with nyse and nasdaq now foreign owned,manipulation is going to be commonplace. (computer flash trade,gaming the system,and bleed of investors large and small.) TOTAL CIRCUMVENTION OF THE CONSTITUTION and laws to protect americans by moving absolutely everything offshore so there is no protection at all for anyone here!jmo. but remember the post. lets see if it comes to fruition.
i think the judge is genius! do you know someone that can talk a certain way to people and those people never know they are being played? like here in the south...when you think a person is just clueless...you dont say that to them, you say "bless his heart.." judge is that person. by her calling rosen by "brian" and getting him into her confidences...she got the walls down and snookered him into her lair. she knew shareholders would be on this like "white on rice," after seeing what was done to kmart. she saw through him day 1. and she let him run his mouth till the day i heard don (fsshon) say, "somethings up? he's not for us!" and the rest is history!!!! she knew we would catch on. she knew when she asked rosen if he was representing shareholders best interest and she saw equity there, he staggered... and we saw it! i think she knew, that what she was trying to show us would click, and then we would take action. and we did! well played judge and thank you!
thank you...that means alot to me! and i feel it is now "your economic destiny" to be rich!!!! good luck and use the proceeds wisely to stabilize your family and then be a beacon of hope for someone else. pay it forward....it will always come back to you one hundred fold!
i feel if she had not let rosen "run about the mouth," it wouldnt have given our group or the group in germany time to organize or realize he wasnt for us but jpm. i feel she was telling us...."listen to this fool!" but what i need is help in shining the spotlight, because i'm the impartial judge! she absolutely allowed our eyes and ears to see and hear the manipulation and corruption, by the way it unfolded and then she stalled to allow us to file our rebuttals. she did us a huge favor. and whoever made the courtesy call to get susman in the loop is our true savior. i think there are alot of good people in the DOJ, FBI and attorneys general offices that are fighting for us in the background.....that we dont even know about! we definitely couldnt have come this far without the hand of God and some very caring, honest AMERICANS that care about the underdog and the mom and pop investors!
given the parameters the judge has had to navigate,(behind the scenes pressure from fed etc) to keep all as stable as possible while negotiations are taking place,i think she is doing great. she could've flushed shareholders long ago but saw there was equity enough for all. remember...you have to keep the donor on life support to harvest the organs....in our case the $$$$$$. you have to give her credit for keeping us alive even with rosens games!
i have a suspicion that the hedgies will be the immediate bankroll for exit from bk for wmi. if susman can catch the hedgies in their lies by proving insider trading by actual transcripts of trading prior and after takedown...thats enough to strip them of any ill-gotten gains and the waterfall turns into an ocean for us. then susman takes jpm and fdic to trial and gets everything that was stolen(planes, artwork, etc) and monies for things already sold without the judges ok. susman is certainly running the show and everyone else is just running... jmo.
didnt china already walk into the white house? remember at takedown of wamu they flew over here for a "special meeting" with dentist from frosty the snowman,(tiny tim)so he absolutely knew that they were not going to be played or stolen from. "eye for an eye" there! and i believe its susman's battle cry too! we'll see very soon! jmo.
i would sooooo pay to see that smackdown! think i would make a fortune as an adult diaper salesman for sure!
voo, i believe like you that this is definitely the end game. just cant wait to see who they pull down first. the dominos are about to fall. walrath i feel has never been in the dark. she has lead this case in a manner so the corrupt(rosen,jpm,hedgies) end up corrupting their own case. she absolutely has reeled out the rope for the trap to be set and i know the guilty will end up stepping right in it, if they havent already. walrath is stalling for a reason....and i still feel that there is a parallel case involving the fbi to take these jokers down so the american people have an "instant answer" to the generated crisis so it deflects from their part in the crime. (with elections coming) that is something.....govt,fdic and jpm used the hedgies(told them they are part of the in crowd)to do their dirty work....then they turn around and destroy them, before they themselves are destroyed! i feel jpm will not be that lucky though. jpm now needs bk for govt pensions to survive and will take wmi place in bk real soon. they also must go into bk to be "quartered up" for wmi to regain what was stolen from them!(providian...etc)jmo.
i think all walrath and susman have to do is utter the word "trial" and all the crooked players will miraculously find the money for settlement.
thanks for that! i just feel this could truly happen...this move would wipe the board of all the corruption. sussman's maneuver is going to be epic imo! viva and i have our tickets to ride the parlay train.....do you? and we're sitting in the front row!!!!! with popcorn and beverages for the upcoming smackdown!!!
viva, got a question.....when susman announces his "merger surprise"(my opinion), the two holding companies would merge and the cusip number changes right? would that not "out the nakeds" for criminal investigation. susmans killing two birds with one stone. protecting true shareholders and giving fbi and doj true provable "teeth" to take the manipulators down? not only for insider trading, (prior in shorting the stock to make it looked like the bank was failing) and then after (perpetuating the false prices during bk to steal shares from shareholders that didnt know they were being duped to think shares were worthless.) just would like your insight.
i agree.