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Shell Game -- new company is one of about 6 name changes and a bunch of horrible reverse splits. (In a couple of years)
VTEC people were the last people to fleece the shell. Stock dropped liked a a dead duck the day when Reiser came in as CFO.
The new people got a bargain shell set up for them by very bad people.
No more fleecing, for me,I want fair compensation , I will not walk away. I have a paper trail to bury a few players, if needed.If I can't get "fair" compensation I will dig up the bodies and place them at the door step of the new people.I hope to be speaking with company attorney soon.!
forget the nasd and sec -go only after provative information by individuals, on fed violations and rico, ,with fed court as a venue.I don't expect this will happen here,previous people left the ship beached on the rocks and the passengers running for their lives. To many enimies to pull this bullshit again.
NO - accumulation line, no volume to use to analyze dollar cost average, no news to make a price decision. Remembering how VTEC did their pump and dump, we may simply have to go after the "players" here who use similar tactics- no mercy this time - hit them early and hit them hard. Patience is getting thin !!
Stay tuned- watch your buy button- let these new guys make up some trust in the system which was destroyed by the VTEC fools who ran our money down a sump hole.I see about 5 to 10 interested players here who will keep the next game on a even playing field. Lets try and work TOGETHER !!!--and see what truth we find in future USCO news. I will put lots of work into this, I have a good knowledge of the working of litigation, all the investor traps, I will be moving to Florida sometime soon to meet with people I trust in this business.
Massanti - stay cool - they know we seek some compenation for the VTEK distater -They few savvy guys in or group will get restricted , but only shares which a executable at a reasonable price and after reasonable time. If the company is another dud like Vtek - and starts pinksheet games of playing games with collusion, dilution, and hiding of material facts etc., then outr small group we will sue the "Bad Guys" from both deals , I have done my homework and will do whatever they force me to do.I remain confident based on my legal eperience. So Stay calm for a month or so!! I am moving to Florida in a few months.
Maronti -- there is plenty of time to get rough here if it becomes necessary- give them some time to build a shell of some value - so they will have reason to deal with us in good faith -so far it looks like one big loser and his big group of spleazeballs - sold a very sick company to a bunch of timid players. I have plenty of bad guys from the vtec shell to tie this into one sleazy not for a lawsuit- but only if I am "forced" to go that route - be patient fo a bit longer.
I wish us the best - however there is not enough information on value of company to judge if bid/ask is proper.
Where are you getting float number ? has the company verified it by e mail ? volume to date is not convincing as to support or resistance levels - patience and caution are in order here.
BUYER BEWARE - todays trading volume and bid asked are are extension of the vtec "B>J>" - count your pocket change and - make sure the float hasn't been changed to one ZILLION overnight - check the cert for another name change since yesterday- then take the one dollar you had saved for a lotto ticket - and throw it in here - knowing full well your chance of being struck by lightning is higher than making money here -based on bare bones information.
Don't Forget The Dilution That Killed Us On Vtec-- float is already over 10 million , with no public information of assets,cash flow,or operations.Reminds you of the fake western towns on movie sets, all the buildings are storefronts, saloon, barber shop, and hotel,with nothing inside. When they are honest with you then you make a reasonable gamble and purchase,otherwise, it is another disaster in the making.
REALITY CHECK - we must all remember that when we buy a pink sheet stock,it many times is a small, unprofitable company, with an unproven track record. Small float or not, you must resist the temptation to chase these "companies" which trade in the dark. There is absolutely no excuse other than greed, and manipuilation,for the unprofitable shells that trade up to several dollars, only to end up below a penny and reversed some 6 months later.
Buy here based on "due" diligence and common sense. I fell into the trap of the "touting" by people who knew very well this stock was being diluted out of existamce. Show me the meat forget the hamburger bun !!
Stockprice - should move up slowly as deals are signed - maybe this is a good play - as you don't want to own a stock that was artficially pumped up by the time you get in. I see buy and hold here.
Help me with the math here- prior close .002 as stock was reverse split you multiply by 1600.00 - that gives you 3.2 a share - what happen to the 3 dollars that get "stuck" on the front of the number - I am not kidding please explain it to me.
No More Infighting - if the people in the know at vtec were more frank about the truth - there may never have been a pump and dump - and maybe stock would not have evaporated. Lets hope new people have their head screwed on straight - and don't play kid in the candy store like some others.
Your buddy with his cow illustration- and buying at .007 was fishing for buyers - set me off - lets get something more than another split and name change to get buying interest back in this minefield. The pinksheets are getting more treacherous each day, some caution is in order is all I "meant".
Last Post -- When and if I hear something credible, and positive here- I will share it - for now - I get only sadness and regret from my visits here- hope for the best and prepare for the worst.Ciao !!
Noah-- I have no shares- I am avoiding the shell game- as I am not making any money I can afford to lose - naked shorting has made this a suckers game - after the bear stearns disaster- can you believe good faith in anything market related ?
Love is blind - Stock tanked the day our new CFO was appointed - if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have let reckless driver send me through his windshield - never met the man - simply went by analysis of others.I will be very careful of any landmines if I go near anything like this again. I got hurt bad !!!
Great Timing - with layoffs up-employers will be looking for new ways to squeeze the last bit of productivity from their workers.Buy and hold here !!
New guys won't make same mistakes as the old bunch - regular Titanic that VTEC.
I Would say that being cautiously optimistic here is O.K. until I see some credible news on what the reverse split if any will do. The 33 to 1 posting meant nothing to me and could simply confuse us more.Vtec abused their shareholders in ways that defy comprehension. I hear the old school is out and some sharp people are in the drivers seat. I don't expect to see Santa Claus on the Board of directors,but I would like to see some common sense decisions made to protect shareholder equity.Give this a few weeks to simmer,maybe they won't dilute the hell out of the shell this time- there is always hope !!!
Makes sense - I heard that an organized PR ,etc. will be in place after the holiday weekend - cheap at this price.
Received call from BOB MARTIN of UCSR - I will call him back in A.M. to get truth on float,why their stock is so cheap, what are we getting for any assets that were sold, and my favorite, Why have the Reiser's moved on ?? I heard Julie had real "class" , on Adam I have no comment.Tune in tomorrow!!
Call or e mail company and ask if they will supply written confirmation that they have no knowledge or alliances with penny stock "bandits" who may have recently destroyed MDRE, VTEC and UCSR.
Insist on written confirmation from an officer of the company.
Simply do your own due diligence, hey its your money isn't it ??
Same scam being pulled on chlo - I am alerting the regulators- this is like killing roaches - unless you get them all they pop up the next day .
Get your facts straight - I have been on here through the pump and through the dump - check the chart of stockprice- people who got rich here were inside - I wouldn't know that jackass Reiser if I fell over him- but I hope to step on his adams apple sometime soon.I complained to the SEC iover 4 months ago !!!
Pinksheet warnings - and complaint lettter have been sent to SEC and FBI organized crime division -save all e mails , postings, and phone messages for use down the road.
The Reiser's have given us the electronic "Virus" - I have spoken with two attorneys,and a former FBI agent.As this could be a RICO action, the net may be cast over more than the Reiser's,as they may have not been calling the shots.I am moving to Florida in a few months by then I will dedicate myself,as a semi disabled /retiree to put my foot up every hiney that was involved.I always stayed away from the dark side of my family, I am clean as a whistle, but if I need special help I know where to find it !!-- If this board is de-activated my e mail is vinceliotta@optonline.net write it down.
There is plenty of rubber band buying pent up here- but you must wait for climate on wall street to change- keep cxto on watchlist- when volume increases and bid/ask spread closes -then is the time to buy - for now .25 is my target price.
I am not a man of iron - I carry the "insult" of my losses here every where I go - It hurts me - I may have over invested - but someone picked my pocket the same as a common street thief. I will try and remain strong and focused, maybe form a shareholder group of 2 to 5 people to operate "outside" this group, confidentially, and with the guidance of a top attorney - hang in there !! For now send your e mail address to Maronti- he will assist me with shareholder group.Ciao !!
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Main Hijacker Groups
While there are cases where ip blocks are hijacked individually, usually this is done by organizations or groups which hijack ip blocks and then try to sell the ip blocks or use them for themselves. Some groups listed here also hijack AS numbers (or directly get it from ARIN or other RIR as its not too difficult) and use those to setup what may seem like legitimate ISPs but these ISPs are in reality setup primarily to route the hijacked ip blocks and as such we call them "Rogue ISPs". The AS numbers that are under control of such a group and are primarily used for advertising hijacked ip blocks are called "Rogue AS" and should be blocked by others ISPs that do not want to help hijackers in their activities and if your ISP and if you're network provider and have one of the "Rogue ISP" listed here come to you as potential client, please read all information below and consider carefully if you really want such company as a client
Group and/or
people involved IP blocks hijacked ASNs used ISPs possibly related to this group Suspected Group Activities
VMX/AdvisTechSA
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Chris Smith,
Nick Geyer,
Josh Harris,
James Dyer,
Jon Christopherson 64.79.128.0/19, 66.135.64.0/19, 128.13.0.0/16, 131.157.0.0/16, 134.33.0.0/16, 137.171.0.0/16, 138.121.0.0/16, 143.49.0.0/16, 144.2.0.0/16, 144.128.0.0/16, 147.111.0.0/16, 155.73.0.0/16, 157.156.0.0/16, 160.116.0.0/16, 160.122.0.0/16, 162.73.0.0/16, 167.179.0.0/16, 169.141.0.0/16, 192.83.0.0/16, 196.4.167.0/24, 198.204.0.0/21, 198.178.249.0/24, 198.278.250.0/23
suspected to also have been involved in hijacking of:
139.81.0.0/16, 141.196.0.0/16, 142.105.0.0/16, 144.176.0.0/15, 144.179.0.0/16, 144.180.0.0/15, , 157.237.0.0/16, 158.181.0.0/16, 167.212.0.0/16, 170.67.0.0/16, 170.208.0.0/16, 192.67.16.0/24,
216.64.224.0/20 AS8143,
AS15188,
AS26797,
AS27255, ISPs Setup by Advistech:
VMX Networks -
vmxnetworks.com
AdvisTechSA -
advistechsa.com
advistech.co.cr
CodexHosting -
www.codexcorp.net
PremiumLogic -
premiumlogic.com
possibly also:
MassiveISP.Net
NetVikings.Net
Hijacking ip blocks. Using ip blocks to send unsolicited emails (SPAM). Selling and leasing ip blocks in whole or in parts. Billing and credit card fraud. Joe-Jobs against opponents and previous ISPs.
INGS/Five-Elements -
Thomas Weisel, Paul Matuszewsky, Phil Doroff,
Jeff Wheeler,
Matthew Hallacy 199.120.163.0/23,
199.166.200.0/22,
199.201.151.0/23,
204.89.156.0/23 AS26891 Five-Elements.Com
INGS.COM Sending unsolicited emails (SPAM). Hijacking ip blocks (or leasing/buying hijacked ip blocks from others)
Web Design House and Starlan
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Jim Cheung,
Michael Booth 148.3.0.0/16,
199.60.102.0/24,
199.120.254.0/24 AS26857,
AS27526 AS26857.NET
RAIKOUNET.NET
Web Design House - WDH.COM
Starlan -
starlan.com Sending unsolicited emails (SPAM). Hijacking ip blocks and possibly leasing/buying them
RackSource
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Chris Tibaldo,
Greg Nowakowski 192.150.201.0/24,
192.150.240.0/24,
192.153.43.0/24,
192.160.34.0/24,
205.159.23.0/24,
205.159.34.0/24,
205.159.72..0/24,
205.159.126.0/24
suspected to also have been involved in hijacking of:
192.107.49.0/24,
199.245.138.0/24,
204.89.224.0/24
AS30040,
AS8129
Also these two ISPs may have association with them:
AS10741,
AS23522
Light One Comm. / LightCom Ventures -
lightened.com
lightened.net
Racksource -
racksource.net
CT Holding LLC -
UNF.NET
Health Products -
life-x.net
healthproductsnow.net
Hijacking legacy ARIN ip blocks. Using ip block to send unsolicited emails and hosting sites advertised by that. Billing and credit card fraud. Hosting of child pornography.
DoS Attacks and hacking when blackmailing opponents and previous ISPs.
RouteX LTD
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Gordon Lantz 34.0.0.0/8,
159.2.0.0/16 AS23184 Routex Ltd -
routexltd.net
Hijacking legacy ARIN and IANA ip blocks (they are the only group known to have hijacked /8 ip block). They also know some people from VMX.
OneRoute,
OptInc Inc, Secureio Inc, Amreiser LLC
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Adam Reiser,
Eddy Marin
and his other associates 205.235.64.0/20,
206.197.49.0/24,
206.197.28.0/24,
206.197.29.0/24,
206.197.175.0/24,
206.197.176.0/24,
206.197.177.0/24 AS29698,
AS29713,
AS29761 OptIn Inc / OptIn LLC
opt-in3.com, optin5.com
and many others...
Secureio Inc -
secureio.com
OC3 Networks -
oc3networks.com
Internet America -
internetamericallc.com
Hijacking ARIN ip blocks for use by Eddy Marin's OneRoute spam
operation. Hosting sites advertised by unsolicited emails and sending them.
Empire Towers
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Thomas Cowles,
Tom Herman,
Aaron Smith 142.247.0.0/16,
ad page
VERY STRANGE PAGE FROM GOOGLE - I make no statement as to its veracity - you make your own conclusions.
Does anyone have knowledge of "Pumper" John marin working on vtec during the pump and dump ??
acumenmedia.com
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Very Long - Very Comprehensive - review of pennystock spammers and scammers- if you remember anyone from VTEC - please let me know !!!!
http://www.junkfax.org/fax/profiles/wsp/wsp.htm
Promoter- does anyone know the name and phone number who was on th stock when it went to 5 dollars last year ??
Beautiful car - If you were a crook it would be a red ferrari-you probably have a sharp mind- when we have " High Noon" with these gentlemen I will give you a heads up.
Dear Z28 - I spent my career investigating and settling lawsuits filed for frivolous,off the wall, and money hungry reasons. Suprisingly many times they resulted in $ for the plaintiffs.All the money made by the quick hit pumpers last year was money stolen from investors who simply bought and held.Do the math. If the company offers some kind of reparations to cushion these losses it would be the correct thing to do all around. To disappear in the night, change the company name, and play dumb is a useless as t^&*s on a bull.
Perhaps the company will do the right thing.
However, if they simply do a horrendous reverse split, and laugh in your face, then somebody is going to get hurt. Turn over a rock and even a racketeering and a Rico action can jump out. For now everyone is innocent until proven guilty. When the heat is on, the finger pointing will start, they will roll over on those who got rich quit at our expense. Stay Tuned !!
News and buying interest - The sharks are circling on wall street,blood in the sttreets, $ 100 dollar oil, crashing dollar, foreclosures are up-people are holding on to their wallet after Bear Stearns Meltdown-nobody is diving into smallcaps- on a Friday- unless they are crazy- let the pot simmer down- and people will come here as they said they would based on pending good news- Monday is a long way away. Stock bought at 25 cents is a buy and forget about it move- hang in here.Bye
Spoke with an attorney friend - he is not the person I have approached to help us here - he does say that that if the bad boys here were an accountant or a lawyer etc.- they stand a good chance of losing all licenses and priveleges to be involved in any business activity- under a sort of temporary restraining order-( much like a estranged husband is banned from going anywhere near his abused wife) - You know our bad boy might look "Cute" in one of those Mc Donalds Manager's hat -"was that a small fry or large fry madam" - you better count your change -haha -jokes going to be on the evildoers here- let the chips fall where they may.