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It's the panic.
Insiders should make the difference in giving us numbers, and nothing else than numbers. I do not care the Berlin stock Exchange was the source of the short selling. The fact is th
Damn it's going back up ???
Now that sellers left, we should see a big run like you never seen...
If I'm right, please reply me
If I'm wrong, please forget me
I want to see positive sellers that get a massive money back !
Go Paivis, go,go down to PPS 0,0000001!
It is something pure idealistic, but Pure H20 Bio technologies is going to build a facility as far as I understood. Beside the PPS that is reflecting all our deseperate minds, there is something moving up. Everybody is looking for a suspicious R/S. A merger could even push up this f*cking co to the moon. The future will tell..nothing at all for now. It's never bad to buy when low and sell when high. But when it's always downtrend it's very hard to get money back! At PPS 0,0001 is it even a good deal?
My opinion too. But need to wait for those who want the quit this with a quick sell off after the debacle of the restrictive story. Business plan and strong financial releases could help for sure to get such high PPS.
Financial underperforming is to be checked with next FR. We might get that in August and then I'll decide whether I'll sell or not. Today it's most probably undervalued at PPS 0,25.
From Yahoo Finance:
Market Cap (intraday): 7.36M
Enterprise Value (2-Jul-07)3: 16.60M
PPS from 0,5 to 0,6 should be the value.
GLTA
I still not received any certs. I bought JPHC shares through my bank and got the conversion into PAVC shares for long. I can buy PAVC shares but still not sell it! Please check out this exerp coming from yahoo finance website:
Market Cap (intraday): 12.27M
Enterprise Value (27-Jun-07)3: 16.60M
I do not know if it means we have a gap of about 35% too low. I hope so!
Best of luck for all!
It's a bit undervalued. 35 mil annual revenues and 2 mil profit would run this above PPS 2. Simply a question of time... Keep quite and the time will play for us.
My opinion!
GLTA
Florida, do you think people who will buy those shares at $0,0013 will sell them right after at $0,0001? What kind of reward is it? I also think we will see a new PR soon like you.
I agree with the people who talked about PRHB, just entered two day ago and will keep for master gain!GLTA
Be quite that issuance of shares could be on the track for 5 years...
13. Expiration and Termination of this Plan. This Plan may be abandoned or terminated at any time by the Plan Administrators except with respect to any Options then outstanding under this Plan. This Plan shall otherwise terminate on the earlier of the date that is five years from the date first appearing in this Plan or the date on which the Seven Hundred Seventy Millionth share is issued hereunder.
Those shares are restricted and should not be on the market before one year...for that reason, it shouldn't give add financing.
Would you mean that guy is involved in the Paivis short squeeze story?
I've seen that procedure in a old PR, as far as I remember...I didn't filed because I bought mine at the bank, and they already confirmed me I'll get shares in Feb...I'm still waiting for like everybody here and I'll confirm when they will be in my account. As the hearing process started, we could have a good chance to have share distribution in the coming days...
We'll know very soon what's going on with our shares. I'm pretty confident while the hearing procedure is ongoing! GLTA
Why are you wasting your time here then?
I'm here for about 60000 pavc(e) shares in my account but not delivered as long as my bank can't get certs. I though I was among big shareholders, but I see that others took more lotery tickets than me.....I'm puzzled..GLTA
Let's wait and see... I don't have a cristal ball. The time will tell us, like a lotery when you have to wait for the first rank.
Ya for sure, with 2 bil sh. max at 4,1milthe company would value 0,002/sh++.
What was very surprising was the announced deal value at 4,1mil declared not as good as expected, but as a very good deal anyway. If it was to boost the price/share, it seems to me the TA would had to declare an exceptional deal above the expected price...
Did you already buy shares?
I agree, It doesn't cost nothing to tell that. At the opposite, we have large investment and profitable activities with them in my company. It might help...
Of course they have a stock exchange division at the bank. They told me they will take a legal action if they can not have my shares in Feb. They'll do that for free as I contracted shares through them. The 200 PAVC shares they got for another client, I don't believe they were talking about restricted shares, I mean they most probably talked about free trading shares. At least I expect some that are buying shares today on the open market get them on their account. Nothing is done for friends except if they have money...for nothing...tatata
Why did tell that?
Im a survivor, once again thanks for your explainations on that. I didn't pass through a broker for my last JPHC buy in may 2006, just before the merger, but I bought my share at my bank, like other financials products. They told me I didn't had to start a legal action by my own against the new TA, because they'll do it themself against the new TA to get my shares. Of course it's not a broker but we'll see what's going on...if I can't get my shares in Feb. My banker told me they just got 200 PAVC shares for another shareholder they have as a client. Think what you want about that.
They recorded PAVC shares on my account with the cusip:US6957932089
Hope we'll get NR on time before being a pinky
GLTA
My broker told me in Nov 2006, I'll get my shares and they'll be of free trading, without the restricted tag. They confirmed me, I'll get them in Feb 2007...It seems some people were well updated at that time...Just want to mention I'm JPHC shareholder...considered as restricted after conversion into PAVC. What's that mess??? Sometime, my account mention the Berlin Stock exchange as the place of trading, and sometimes the Nasdaq replace the Berlin stock exchange...It changes day by day from one place to another place of trading...while I bought mine on the OTCBB.
No more trades?
with 4 mil sales and 2 bil shares maximum, it means a minimum share value of 0,002USD/sh, is that correct? If yes, it's VERY UNDERVALUED THEN, so that BID/ASK gap is going to move up.
I agree when you said, there won't be another short squeeze and that was also my feeling. But when you said people will sell shares when available at once, I have doubts on that... The first reaction would be to sell..but first of all, they should be restricted so that will take some time to sell them and secondly, the share value will be rapidly in connection with the company value that should available in the next FR in some days....at least I expect so. If no FR very soon, we will have our eyes for crying because then we will be trading with pinkies where no FR obligations.
GLTA
I agree when you said, there won't be short squeeze and that was also my feeling. But when you said people will sell shares when available at once, I have doubts on that... The first reaction would be to sell..but first of all, they should be restricted so that will t
Thanks for your message. It makes me more confident in the future of PAVC/JPHC shareholders. Do you think we could face to the same short situation when everybody over here is going to ask for their shares?
I do not, like you, but the company value is new and that amount is usually in connection with information Yahoo got to release such numbers:
Market Cap (intraday): 20.43M
Enterprise Value (23-Jan-07)3: 22.20M
Trailing P/E (ttm, intraday): 1.65
Forward P/E (fye 30-Sep-07) 1: N/A
PEG Ratio (5 yr expected): N/A
Price/Sales (ttm): 0.89
Price/Book (mrq): 1.48
Enterprise Value/Revenue (ttm)3: 1.16
Enterprise Value/EBITDA (ttm)3: 7.074
Hope we'll get our shares as promised by my bank in Feb 2007!
GLTA.
Even if people here is asking for restricted share or equivalent certs, they are restricted for 2 years...So be quite and wait...at least 30 days to get news from the board. I am very confident in a good end of all that story, just because my banker told me I am going to have my shares in Feb 2007, and they told me that in November 2006..It seems some are well informed on the procedure. If nothing come out within the next 30 days, I will be very disapointed, but as of today, nothing very bad for me...
NR just out! Who told that the board don't care to shareholders....sounds good!
We should get news between now and Monday 15th. Last late NR is talking about 15 days to get FR. My brooker told me one month ago, I should get shares most probably by Feb and I think He's right, moreover we know the old transfer agent has been fired for a new one to release shares or equivalent certs. GLTA
This last PR should confirms the bank told me last week about the availability of shares by Feb 2007. I do not know about procedures to contract with a new transfert agent and the time it could takes, but the oldest one had to prove his unability to release shares to shareholders. The content of that message is optimistic, if we all considere the low market value of today is plenty due to the unavailability of shares and consecutive loss of confidence. Confidence need to be recovered by other PR and surely by effective shares dispatching.
Good luck to all!
This last PR should confirms the bank told me last week about the availability of shares by Feb 2007. I do not know about procedures to contract with a
I've got a telcon with my bank today telling me they are in relationship with the broker that confirmed them the dispatching of corresponding certificates by Feb 2007. My banker e-mailed that it should take 6 months from August to get that (wrote about one month ago).
They also confirmed me (by phone) today that another customer got 200 shares and that the operation was successful and no class action was necessary.
Please take that information as it is, I'm not a liar, but make your own opinion on that.
I'm a jphc shareholder for several ten thousands shares in pavc. I bought them at the limit of the last JPHC daytrading.
My shares are not restricted, as far as my banker wrote, but still not available. Except the fact that 2 days of trading when I sold some and then the bank cancelled it and take the money back from my account. It was also written by them that the process should take more or less 6 months to get them. I expect that would be starting 4th of August.
What is interesting....Shares in my account have just been changed from USD currency to Euro currency and my shares even if not tradable today, it is written that they would be tradable on the Berlin stock Exchange...Then I check if Paivis was well on the Berlin Stock Exchange....I let you see by yourself....Something is moving definitively!
Something up ? The agreement is ongoing. Expect get good news, like NNNC it can fly soon...