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So I ask all the Legal Beagles out there that defend Dean to no end no matter what....If he gives us some BS video of "PROOF OF CONCEPT" (Which is EXACTLY what he states he's doing btw) and doesn't show an actual 3D Realtime Image, and nor is he capable of doing so in any setting right now, did he lie? Did he mislead investors? Did he in your mind break the law?
Several comments have been made here that the CONS won't be satisfied with anything that Dean demo's, and nothing would be good enough. So how about the PROS??? Are you cool with PROOF OF CONCEPT? All the talk has been, here we go baby, it's coming, Dean's gonna show us the goods. Well he has pretty much said he isn't, so please spin away!!
Dodger, would you like to elaborate on what "I consider myself to be pretty close to IMGG" means? Obviously nobody can prove insider trading in this case, any more than they can in many other situations. It happens, and everybody knows it. It's not what you know, it's who ya know. There are some glaring examples with IMGG where massive trading took place prior to any public news, and then low and behold a day or two later here comes the bomb. If you were not informed at these times, I would think maybe you are not as close as you would like to believe?
He's putting together a video of "PROOF OF CONCEPT"?????????????
Somebody get me off the ledge!!
Myth, that was the portion of the letter, those three words that grabbed my attention more than anything else. Anyone else a lot smarter than me want to elaborate their take on that little tid-bit? Am I reading too much into the word "CONCEPT"??? I don't want a concept, I want a finished product that I have been told by the CEO is fully functioning and ready to manufacture for sale immediately following approval.
Am I not understanding this coreectly? Proof of concept??? That would take us back two years to Kimble preaching to anyone that would listen, that the DVIS was a concept on paper, and not a working DVIS.
That letter from Dean is disturbing IMO. Oh sorry Dean that you thought you could tell people one thing, but when they find out the truth, they are classified as people wanting entitlement? They gave you their money Big-Shot in good faith, and really just want to be treated with honesty and respect. He can't play the game by his rules, which IMO are definitely pushing the legal limits, so he'll shut everyone out, take his ball and go home. He better show something next week that has some teeth to it, or Deano will have plenty of people thinking they are entitled to some answers!!
Dr Polk....You never answer anything from me, which is fine, but I'll try again. Are you taking the position right now that we are going to see the DVIS perform as advertised, and when the demo is completed, there will be no doubt in anyone's mind that the DVIS can produce 3D Realtime quality images? And since you have been one of the people professing existence of the NDA's...After Dean does the demo, won't the NDA's be worthless at that point, since we all will have seen it? At that point, I would think we should be able to get some positive feedback from these idividuals once the cat is out of the bag....No?
The DVIS could spit out 3D silver dollars, and IMO if the price were to rise after the demonstration, it will still be very moderate, considering the financial status, the lack of time frame for Dean's popular 3-phase submission, and the uncertainty of approval regardless of what Dean shows us. IMO this stock does not reach any sexy levels until full FDA approval and buyout.
Cudos to those that are trying to get any kind of professionals in the field to actually watch Dean's demonstration. To get some feedback from someone the entire board agrees deserves the respect to intelligently review it, would really be worth a lot. I for one appreciate the efforts!! I just hope Dean doesn't have this worked out to where there is a bunch of room again for debate. This needs to be difinitive proof one way or the other, but I fear it will still end up open for endless speculation, and those that choose to believe Dean's excuses will, and those that don't won't.
NAP, there never has been any question the potential of the DVIS, and if approved the value would be more than a lot of people even imagined, which is why I invested in the first place. It's the history of this whole thing that just doesn't give me much hope at this point, including the Altounian relationship, and the similar way IMGG has turned out compared to other ventures BA was involved with.
Anyway, here we sit with the big event coming quickly. If the DVIS has worked this whole time, IMO we would've seen evidence of that WAY before now, and this will be some smoke and mirrors, but I truly hope I am wrong, and I hope you and anyone else that believed the man get rewarded handsomely. There also can be little dispute that the company is in financial trouble, which many here just choose to ignore or simply say Dean can borrow or get the finances, but that plays a big role here any way you look at it.
I can't wait to see what Dean has to show, and the fact that it is right around the corner is definitely exciting. My opinion of the chances for success have done a 180, but my bet has stayed on the line, so I do have something at stake here. GLTA!!!!!
Sano, I think you might be wrong about the esteemed Dr. There is a very good possibility he is one of the lucky ones that have already seen the DVIS in action, and he more than likely signed one of the famous NDA's, so he had to pretend to you he has no knowledge. He will come clean after everyone gets to see it I'm sure.....
Good work Sano...That is good stuff! All I know is this board is going to be a hoot after the alleged demonstration! I say he doesn't have the goods, but of course I hope he does. I honestly could care less if the DVIS works or not anymore. As long as the Amazing Dean can convince a bunch of other people it does, and the stock takes a jump, halelujah!! I need about a .40 cent SP to get back to break even, and I think Dean has one more magic trick up his sleeve that will run this where I need it to.
Revolutionary, game changing technology that Dean has supposedly had for years that nobody on record has seen, that has already been rejected by the FDA is now going to make it's debut on the cheesy MTV show within a couple weeks, and it is going to be the big headline of the industry the following day???? uhhh ok....
Should I go shopping now, or actually wait to see the demonstration?
SMF...Since Dean has apparently received clearance from the FDA to do some version of his demonstration, can't the FDA just watch the next MTV episode when Dean shows everyone?After Dean proves to us all that the DVIS is for real, is there any need to even resubmit a new 3 phase package? Since Dean has refused to provide any evidence of testing before, maybe the FDA will just approve the DVIS for sale directly following the MTV demo?
I have another question....If Dean shows on TV what others have signed the alleged NDE's for, do they still have to keep quiet, or can they share what they have seen, since at that point we have all seen it??
Can anyone straighten me out on what Dean is actually allowed to show in his demonstration?
KKG, thanks for putting that up. It is way too sophisticated for me, but I'm sure others understand it. Can we push to get you as a special guest on the next MTV spot with Dean and Don? I think you should be there in person for the big demonstration, and be able to ask the tough intelligent questions.
I vote KKG to represent the investors at the MTV spot!!!
I'm with you Tig. He has done a fantastic job. I am currently looking to sell some stuff that I don't need or use anymore that has some value, so I can purchase some more shares quickly.Dean has been the most transparent CEO in history, and I am convinced the only reason the DVIS hasn't been anywhere close to approval after all these years, is Dean's lack of experience with the FDA. He just thought you could disregard all their requests, and do it his own way, but now he has consultants to help, so no problem there. We're not sure who the consultants are, because the first "Heavy Hitters" terminated the relationship, after too many annoying phone calls from investors. Who would've known they were so sensitive? I'm sure the new team is just as qualified, and since they are anonymous, they can just concentrate on the approval process without being bothered.
With the long awaited day of Dean demonstrating the DVIS...Oh wait, he already did do that, but just not the real one, anyway, that day is right around the corner now, and the big pay day is right there with it. This board will be a blast and full of euphoria after Dean shows the Realtime 3D in all it's glory. And who can question the avenue he chooses to show this incredible event? Money TV is top notch all the way. I don't know why people criticize it after so many companies have gone on to great things after being promoted there, oh wait, that doesn't happen either, but I'm sure Dean will be the exception, since he is being guided by some true pros as to how to proceed.
Only a couple more weeks till the big day!!! I can't wait to see that DVIS in action!It's been a long ride, but with Dean leading the way, there has never ever been any doubt this was a home run from day one!!
Thanks KKG...Look forward to it. I have beat up Dean plenty on what I think has been an abundance of deception. (trying to be nice) If he is successful in proving he truly has 3D Realtime, I will be the first one to admit I was wrong, and give props to all who never waivered.
KKG, you seem to be very versed in this technology, and I look forward to reading your article. This is probably a dumb question, but I will ask anyway. What would be an acceptable Demo from Dean that would satisfy you? There are quite a few theories of what or how Dean will do this. IMO, if it is similar to the "tour video" followed by a bunch of rhetoric as to why he can't show us the real deal, we are basically finished. I was just curious as to what you would give the thumbs up to, and walk away confident Dean has what he says he has. TIA
No doubt Kimble, and I am one that has been converted to the dark side. There has been quite a bit of talk about Dean's demonstration, and I actually watched that MTV spot, but I really didn't get the impression he had any intentions of actually doing it. Is that the concensus here, that Dean is going to show the DVIS working as advertised in a couple / few weeks with Dandy Don on MTV??
I will surely have the pocorn buttered up for that performance. Any of the DD kings on here have a date in mind for this show, or is it still up in the air?
Hey Dean used to have a CC every so often. How come we haven't heard any news of any more of those upcoming? I guess rehearsed questions from Don malke a whole lot more sense to Dean right now, then fielding questions from investors. Go figure, the NSE letter gets released telling all what the TRUE reason for the rejection, and bye bye Deano.
SMF....The answer has been given ad nauseum....It is over the next 12 months, which didn't mean right away silly. Sure it looks like Dean was trying to do an end around manipulation with that PR, but have a little faith. He has come through with everything else, so please stop picking on him. I am sure he will buy some back soon, just like he insinuated.
Thanks for reposting that Kimble, because that's the way I recall it too. Not only was MWE going to consult, they were going to walk this thing through the whole way, because that is what they do. It sure sounds like Dean lead investors to believe Mr. Cohen was going to be IN those meetings with the FDA at the shareholder's meeting.
I have been reading for months how important and impressive it was that Cohen was going to be sitting at the table. Now that he is not, I guess it's no big deal after all. The fact that Dean said he would be but isn't, is no big deal either. I mean hey, when you are pretty much BS'ing your way through everything, who needs to rate which lie was more significant the the next?
For those of you that didn't know, including myself, the CEO of a publicly traded company can write, speak on a CC, or even hold a meeting in person, and basically say whatever he wants, and if it turns out it was a blatant lie, you should just buy some more stock and say thank you Sir may I have another.
I can't think of another example of someone I know recently, that has said so many things that were either not true, or never came to fruition, that continues to receive the kind of support that Dean does. I think Dean should just scrap the DVIS and become some famous Evangelist. All he needs to do is stand up at the pulpit, and tell everyone to believe, and then pass around the basket.
Kimble, what did I miss, and when did it get discussed that IMGGORBUST was let go by MWE? How would anyone know this? If it is true, I would love to hear BUST's take on all of this, although employed there or not right now, he probably couldn't say much, or risk more trouble.
Dr Polk, are you going to say again that MWE is still on board, and they are going to be the driving force in getting the DVIS approved? Is that still your stance? If it is confirmed that they are not going to be assisting with the face to face FDA meetings, does that change your confidence level, or does this stay a slam dunk for you because you personally know people that have seen the DVIS perform as advertised?
I don't understand anything about the talk of Attorney / Client Privilege as it pertains to IMGG amd MWE. Is IMGG on trial for something that I am not aware of? Is there some big case in progress in which they need some hot shot attorneys to defend them? Since when is it taboo to only confirm or deny representation? Not discuss details of a case, or leak information, but to simply deny or confirm? When we were first told MWE was involved, it was my impression that was supposed to be cause for excitement, since they were so qualified to assist with this next round.
IMHO, I don't think MWE is around anymore, and I am guessing they have had little to do with it from the start, since I am a believer that Dean cannot produce the images, and when MWE realized what Dean was attempting to pull off, they said thanks but no thanks.
The FDA has made it clear what they want, and I was lead to believe MWE would be the ones to properly present it to the FDA for approval. Now after all these months, the infamous 3 phase plan is devised? And we have a bunch of believers out there that think MWE advised this or is behind it 100%??? More logical to me is, Dean cannot give the FDA what they require, and Dean is attempting to manipulate the system, but not with the help of MWE. They are probably some of the best in the business at presenting products that actually exist, but even they cannot get the FDA to approve a fantasy, and my money says they told Dean that way early in the game.
Nobody has been able to officially get the answer right now for MWE's involvement, but it will happen, and then I look forward to hear all the positive spin from those that said MWE was the key, and they would bring this home. MWE has been on the sidelines with me all these months, IMO OF COURSE!!
And people ask why some stick around this board??? This is entertainment at it's finest. Why do people follow Nascar?? To watch hillbillie's take left hand turns for hours?? Heck no, they watch for the the wrecks, and the nastier the better for. For quite some time this has been a train wreck that is impossible to not follow, and it doesn't look like the show is over by a long shot, and more evidence of that would be two posters reporting tyhe exact opposite of what I would call some relevant info whether or not MWE is involved anymore. You gotta love it!!!
I do have to disagree on your assessment of the two letters Chevy as well. It is my understanding that the AI letter is a guide for you to include the proper information to reach your goal, and the NSE is the final decision for at least that submission anyway, knowing you can try again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the AI is saying you have some more work to do, and we expect to hear back from you, and NSE is saying go away, and don't come back until you have exactly what we asked for. Let's not group them together as if they're one in the same. We are currently REJECTED, not told to come back next week.
No doubt we all have our own beliefs Chevy. I too was a defender of IMGG and Dean when we were hearing all the statements about where we were at in the process with labeling issues, verbiage in the manual, the infamous radioligist's review, etc.
Then the NSE letter was released, and that blew this out of the boat for me. "Had we received SE" ??? Well, the saddest part of this is, we didn't have the slimmest chance of getting approval with what was submitted, and IMO Dean had to know that was the case, because he came so short on so much that the FDA had requested.
I have never referred to this is a "scam" but it is that aspect of it that leads me in that direction now. Can anyone tell me how long it may have taken to find out what the actual contents of that NSE really were if it wasn't released, and we were counting on Dean to inform us? How long would gullable people such as myself been lead to believe we were much closer to approval than we really were?? How do you do DD on something like that? Dean submits and gets the response, so if I can't believe him as to what the response was, how else would I know? Come to find out, it is how Sano did it and the FOIA. Can you honestly tell me what we would be being told from Dean right now had that NSE letter not been released. Of course not, but I know what he WAS telling us before that happened, and it was a far cry from where we're at now. Which by the way is in limbo with no timeline for resubmission and some 3 phase plan nobody has ever heard of before, and NOBODY ON RECORD has seen the DVIS perform except Dean year after year.
Circumstatial evidence, coincidence, call it whatever you want regarding the history or story of the DVIS to date, but if you go back to the very beginning and follow the timeline, this truly does have "scam" written all over it, and I will now refer to it as such until proven otherwise. Which will come first, REALTIME 3D images from Dean, or the Cubs win the Worls Series? I'm bettin heavy on the Cubs!
Chevy, are you serious? That's what you truly believe is happening? I would be willing to bet there isn't one investor period that wouldn't be satisfied with some proof that any Realtime 3D image was available. Not a new and improved, super duper tweaked up 3D REALTIME image, just any 3d realtime image whatsoever.
To read back on Dean's posts, and writeups, and the statements he made YEARS ago, and we're talking 5 or 6 years ago, makes me sick, to look back at what he projected and compare it to where we are now? What has really been accomplished from Dean's end? A big fat pile of nothing the way I see it. There has been a boat load of money made or lost, but the DVIS hasn't progressed an inch. In fact it re-gressed with the NSE ruling.
I am completely converted to the dark side, mostly because there is actual evidence there that says Dean is full of it, and the other side is just all hype and fantasy. There is a NSE letter, AI letters, bogus CC's, stupid MTV clips, that can actually be viewed. What is there to hold onto from the positive side?? NDA letters? Dean's promises?
I believe I have about as much chance of seeing Elvis as I do seeing Dean produce a 3D REALTIME image at this point. I just hope the master manipulator can muster up one more run with his mystical powers so I can get the hell out of this. I think that is possible, and the only reason I am still here.
Kimble, thanks for the recap of your IMGG adventure. I personally have heard it before, but I think it was worth repeating for others that may not have heard some of the history. When you were lead to believe the DVIS would be placed at a Luminary Site, that sure had to sound like it had some validity? Deans own posts stating testing was going to take place, and images produced, and on and on.
If you are one of the "chosen few" (not you Kimble, I know what you have seen) that have seen this work, and signed the NDA, and you have a boat load invested because you know it works, then halelujah for you. I don't know how anyone else can listen to Kimble's story, and the chronological order of events, all the promises unkept, and then go, I'm buying some more. The entire saga smells like rotten fish, and then when you look at the current financial situation, and then go, I'm buying some more??? It baffles my mind, but I have a small brain, so maybe I just don't get it.
I heard Kimble on here a few times ask for some feedback about positive news we have had relatively recently, and I don't recall one response. Please don't say MWE is all over this, because I don't know of anyone that can confirm it. If it is Dean has the 3 phase plan for 510K that nobody has heard of being a known process with the FDA, then YIPPEEEE.
I wouldn't put one more penny into this cartoon if you put a gun to my head, and I continue to pray they can pump it one more time for at least a break even.
Madtig, as a current "nay-sayer" I am no more surprised about the uptrend than I am guessing you are. But, as you have stated many times, this stock goes against all logic sometimes, and has fooled you more than once. Nay-sayer or not, I have a stake in the game, and obviously love to see the rise. Just a little more and I will be out of everyone's hair forever.
I will bite Kimble. IMGG closed over .11 today, and if you told me it would do that a week ago, I would have said you were crazy. Woo Hoo...Break out the brass band!!
Chevy, I agree 100%, but I just cringe when people bring up these NDA's as if it is given they actually exist. IMO if there was proof that they did exist, and could be verified, it would go a long way with me as proof someone has seen the DVIS produce the images. I know it has nothing to do with getting approval.
Homer, we need to get something else clear, that this idea of NDA's is also PURE SPECULATION. There is no proof whatsoever that these NDA's exist, nor is there any proof that any "pre-orders" exist, just like there is no proof that 3D REALTIME images exist.
There is a fact that can't be denied though, and that is this has been going on for years...Dean has promised images for years...and the FDA has rejected the DVIS, and now we don't even have a clear timeline on when it will possibly be re-submitted.
IMO, if there actually were signed NDA's from people that had seen the DVIS perform as advertised, FDA approval would've been over and done with a long time ago, and we would all have some new toys. People want FACTS here, and the fact of the matter is there is no PROOF of NDA's, so I wish people would quit drawing them like a gun, as if it means anything. NDA's are fictional at this point, as are 3D REALTIME IMAGES, and all remain fictional until proven otherwise.
This board needs to hear both sides period. Let's never forget that if Mr. Sano, who could easily be classified as a negative poster, did not release the NSE letter, we would all be in the dark right now, unless anyone seriously thinks Dean had any intention of divulging what that letter actually contained???
There are plenty of issues with IMGG, and I would think most are intelligent enough to weed through the nonsense. I personally prefer both sides of the story to make my own judgments. If I just wanted to hear everything was hunky dorey, I could just keep playing back Dean's CC's.
Denuzio, nothing has changed that I am aware of. Others were making mention of the demonstration, so I was just curious if it was actually a reality, or just a possibility. The fact that Dean said he would like to, or he would try, leads me to believe it isn't going to happen. Just another empty statement about producing some images. We all know what would happen to the SP if that were to happen, with or without FDA approval at this time. A shred of evidence that the thing works would go a long way, but after all this time and failure, logic says that proof just doesn't exist, except on paper.
This can't go on for much longer, unless the dilution process works, and Dean is able to just keep stringing this along. The idea of no real time line for the "3 phase" re-submission is as frustrating as it gets. This "new protocol" plan coming out of the blue was surprising as well. I can't believe that there isn't anyone that has been able to verify what MWE's involvement has been or currently is at this time. For whatever reason, if it was confirmed they are truly playing a big part moving forward, I would have a trace of optomism, but nobody seems to be able to prove either way if they are even "consulting" on this, much less putting significant talent and time towards getting it through.
I agree with a previous poster, simplified to the fullest. The FDA spelled out what they wanted, and Dean didn't produce it. They have spelled it out again, so comply and give them what they expect. I don't recall reading in the NSE letter anything about a 3-phase review and multiple meetings, which leads me to believe Dean can't give them what they want, and wants to create a way to beat the system. No facts from me, just preception, which is 99% of this board. Confirmation that MWE is even involved right now would be a bonus for me right now.
So is it my understanding that Dean is really going to set a date in the next few weeks to "allegedly" do a demonstration of the DIVIS on MTV?? I know he mentioned the possibility, but is that for real? He is comitted to doing that? Realtime 3D Images??
I don't see how that is possible. He does not have FDA approval yet, and that has always been the excuse, so how would it be possible to show it now? It's not going to happen IMO, and this charade is getting close to being over. Congrats to the "traders" that did very well on this, as timing was very key, and sorry to the "investors" that were in for the long haul and lost their shirts.
It really is an amazing idea and product, if it could be proven to work, which is why I got in in the first place. It didn't take a genius to see the potential the DVIS WOULD HAVE if it could ever get to production and sale. Not only here, but globally. It is apparent that competition has already made it through, and granted, not as fast, or not as mobile, but they "work" which we are finding out is a pretty important part of getting FDA approval.
I guess you could say this isn't dead yet, but it is definitely on life support. What a shame.
Homer, seriously you are going 50/50 on this? Can I ask when you got involved with this stock? I was very optomistic when I invested over a year ago, but all of the statements that Dean has made, that have not happened, along with not only not making progress, but going backwards has me firmly planted on the dark side.
I doubt anyone would dispute with where we currently are right now, there is no way this is going to be resolved quickly, so all this talk about where the money will come from to keep it going is very valid. Other than the infamous ghosts that have supposedly signed NDA's, who would help finance this with the history of the DVIS to this point?
I am leaning towards the belief that BK is the more likely scenario right now than anything else IMO. Then Dean can blame a number of different things that forced it, and go onto sometyhing else, having made quite the living throughout this process.
That is really tough on the eyes to read. After all this time....nothing. I can't believe I am such a sucker. Yes I can. I'm gullible, and always have been. I'm the perfect pidgeon. Doesn't make me a bad guy I guess.
It is very hard to dispute that logic Kimble. I mean seriously, anyone that has been around this for any length of time and experienced all of the nonsense that has transpired, even if you are the most optomistic person going, you have to have your doubts. Well except for a certain Dr. who "knows what he knows" and "the people that need to see it have seen it"
Not one image available after all this time. When I was a believer, the MTV spots didn't bother me that much, since I was just happy to hear anything. Now without the rose colored glasses, it is just so cheesy, it is pathetic. Kimble is correct, if you put a completely neutral party in front of that charade, they would laugh in your face when you asked them if they were ready to kick in some of their hard earned money after watching those two. Just plain pathetic.
I agree completely with Kimble's statement that this entire fiasco is "laughable" except for that little part that a bunch of people lost a ton of money, and IMO there is no way they're getting it back. $1.95????? You have a better chance of getting hit by lightning, WHILE getting a hole in one, the same day you won the lottery.
I wouldn't say Dean is lacking any spine or any other body parts that get associated with being macho. You have to have a serious set if in fact you encourage all of your close friends and family members to get involved, and then not produce the goods. Now if he took care of all of them on the runup, and kept them informed, as we know happened at times, then he still will get some Christmas cards. The others that held as this baby spiraled into the toilet, most likely won't be inviting Dean to the family picnics much anymore.
This board most likely is going to be a ghost town very soon, as there just isn't much to go over. The Hail Mary miracle passes happen once in awhile, but I have never seen a QB who was able to throw it 100 yards, and Dean is 4th and a mile from his own end zone with no time on the clock.
If anybody is up to speed on the "phases" of Dean's master plan, can you please keep us informed as to where we are as it progresses? I thought we were submitting the 510K, but apparently the FDA will be willing to keep meeting with Dean and his "experts" to make sure we get it right. I am sure they will be thrilled to do it in Phases. Maybe the FDA will even self perform the live demonstration, since the personnel Dean now has assisting are in so tight over there?
I would say BK is right around the corner, but Dean has shown the uncanny ability to keep this going, and I predict he will get enough dillution to buy some more time and keep getting paid.
Good luck Madtig and thanks for all your input. I know you didn't agree with a lot of my posts, and in most cases probably rightfully so. I have learned a lot from this, and life goes on. Go find yourself another money maker and knock'em dead!!
Why is it with Dean it is always this is what we're going to do, and not this is what we did? What has been going on for the better part of the last 5 months? I got the feeling like the NSE came down days ago, not months. I didn't think end of March would happen to re-submit, but I thought add a month to it maybe, well fat chance this thing will be even close to getting submiited the end of this month!!
He tells Don I "would like" to come back and show a demonstration. Don says absolutely Dean, we'll clear a space for you right here. So set the date Dean, quit talking about it and do it!! At this point does anyone care the format of showing the DVIS in Realtime 3D? Do it on an Etcha-Sketch for all I care, but show it to somebody with any kind of credibility that will confirm it, other than Dean himself. I know, the multitude of NDA's. Can I just see a xerox copy of just one? Don't explain to me what you supposedly winessed, just show me the form you signed saying you can't tell anyone.
Phase one...Phase two...Phase three? We're "going to get the meeting set with the FDA?????" I ask again, what has been done between the NSE decision and now??
IMO this is a LONG way from being submitted, and I agree with all that say big time dillution is right around the corner, because where else is the money going to come from??
All I took out of that MTV spot was more long delays before anyone will have proof whether the almighty DVIS is for real or a fraud. I'm still going with the 2nd choice, because I think Dean is trying to push through a concept, not a finished product, and the FDA will never go for that, and nor should they.