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I hope you're wrong because no one is listening.
I understand why Kim wants secrecy while ramping up production, it's definitely an advantage to make your competitors think you're not that big a threat. But at some point you have to switch gears and shout from the rooftops.
Anyone care to guess at what point the rooftop shouting will begin? After a contract with XYZ company is announced?
Looks like it's the July 3rd fiber2fashion article.
Vietnamese company posting Kraig news on their website. I pasted the translated company profile here. Not that interesting until you see what this company does. Good to know that a Vietnamese company in the fabric biz is following Kraig.
http://www.anphatinvest.com.vn/news/kraig-biocraft---warwick-tao-ra-to-nhen-bien-doi-gen-OTA4.html
Company Name: AN INVESTMENT COMPANY DEVELOPMENT
Abbreviation: APIC - VINATEX members.
Trading name: PHAT AN INVESTMENT JOINT STOCK COMPANY.
Address: Industrial Zone Tam, Tam Thi Tran, Hoai Nhon district, Binh Dinh Province, Vietnam NamTel: 056.3765957
Fax: 056.3765958
Email: apic@anphatinvest.com.vn
Website: http://www.anphatinvest.com.vn
Business activities include:
+ Apparel (except fur apparel from).
+ Production of other textiles.
+ Business fabrics, readymade garments and footwear.
Wholesale synthesis include:
+ Business import and export goods, garments, materials, equipment, spare parts, components and textile machinery industry. Trading in agricultural products, seafood and food.
+ Freight transport by road, waterways (coastal and ocean), warehousing and storage of goods.
+ fabric production, weaving, finishing textile products: dry-cleaning, embroidery printing products, business equipment and electronic components, telecommunications, manufacturing readymade garments (except apparel).
+ equipment, other tangible goods: machines for rent , the textile industry equipment.
+ Travel agents, hotels, restaurants, shops, restaurants.
+ and vocational training: Regular training classes like sewing, embroidery printing products fostering skills etc. ...
More of the same but this was published in Australia. Looks like the "Wired" article made people notice:
http://mail.sciencealert.com.au/news/20141007-25858.html
Nothing new here but it's more press...
http://www.bustle.com/articles/31316-monster-silk-fire-resistant-underwear-of-the-future-is-here-are-you-ready
Good find gaga! I'm most excited by WHERE you found the article. Wired has much higher audience than most of the recent articles.
http://archive.wired.com/about/press_factsheet/
Great find. T4O
Nice snapshot of Warwick Mills on Businessweek mentions Kraig. Not much here but worth a look.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=4658129
I'm surprised Pedro didn't respond.
Anyway, this timely article he found was published in December of 2007. They're going to commercialize these socks in 2010 so KBLB better look out!
I emailed Okamoto Corp to find out how I can buy a pair. They aren't listed on their website and there's no mention of spider silk on their corporate timeline after the 2007 announcement. Looks like they don't make them and they stopped talking about them several years ago.
I will let you know if anyone from Okamoto responds to my request.
You have a point about testing and etc. But "demand" of a spider silk super fiber isn't in question.
The only unknown is on the supply side. Not the demand side. Is MS going to be THE spider silk that will meet the overwhelming demand?
We think and hope so. That's why we've invested in this company.
The universities of Notre Dame and Wyoming think it will meet the demand. The lab that tested the silk gave results that support the claims.
Silk isn't that hard to weave. It's been done for centuries.
Quality control is a factor in the production every single product on the market. From raising cattle, to building iPhones, to raising silkworms.
Will Warwick determine that they can't make anything out if it? Maybe. But I highly doubt it.
Too much empirical evidence indicating that things are going great and as planned.
If Warwick were unable to weave ANYTHING useful, we'd know it by now. You can be sure that the shipment in December wasn't their first look at MS. They already had samples and said, "I think we can work with this, send us what you can and we will see what we can do with it. Kim wouldn't be shaking hands with foreign governments getting geared up to mass produce.
Excellent point CPO!!!
I agree t4o. It's definitely pertinent today. And I'm glad you reminded us of it.
Someone posted yesterday, "what we need is DEMAND!" as if there's no demand for this product. I don't know how anyone can say we need demand. Every single article on spider silk talks about OVERWHELMING DEMAND for this product! The market has been waiting for it for YEARS, maybe decades.
I think the PR yesterday was directed at the companies he's been negotiating with. He knows they're waiting and what he's doing takes time. His PR yesterday told them, "sit tight, it's coming soon!"
Nobody was waiting for iPods and iPhones. Apple made them, then told us why we wanted them. The market is ASKING for Monster Silk! The market HAS BEEN ASKING for Monster Silk! Don't tell me there's no demand. Oh brother!
I agree but speculation about a product that isn't on the market yet is all anyone can do. Even Charlie Howland mentioned something like "we haven't even thought of all the uses of MS".
I can tell you this, I'm in the auto industry and "Eco friendly" is the name of the game. Believe me, every auto manufacturer wants to brag that they're "greener" than the next guy. Most interior parts (carpets, door panels, etc) are made of materials manufactured through a chemical process. So a natural fiber that can replace some of the chemical process will be very attractive. Fewer chemicals would be used to manufacture the natural non woven, and fewer chemicals would be used recycle the natural non woven. And we'd have a better product in the end.
Eco-friendly used to mean that something was crap. There's a real opportunity here to be more Eco-friendly and improve the end product. That's huge!
This eliminates the companies that are manufacturing spider silk via a chemical process. Kraig labs offers a natural fiber. That's why I don't worry too much about the Amsilks et al. The market for the natural fiber is definitely large enough to reach to the billions of dollars.
There's room for all the spider men in the game.
I don't think anyone wants to crucify you here. Everyone on this board knows that the telltale sign of TRUE fluff and hype is that the one and only source for the info is an obscure website in China. You just can't get good fluff and hype going without starting the campaign there.
http://www.costingroup.com/en-us/newsDetail.php?news_id=13
That should work. If not, copy and paste the article into your search engine. It's very hard to navigate to it from the company's main page.
Good question. Maybe these guys talked to KT at some point and Kim was speculating on possible uses of BR based on what he knows about it.
Why no pr? No point in PR-ing speculation or feeling maybe. That's already been done to death regarding spider silk fibers.
I did like this part of the article though:
"Karry, marketing manager of Ford Company in America said, the goal of ecological vehicles using nonwoven materials was to develop composite fiber technology for injection molding interior materials. Thus, automobile industry will rely less on unsustainable materials."
I think the above quote means that the other makers of spider silk fibers will be left out of the picture.
This article was written by a native Chinese speaker so don't make too much out of the sentence "...big red recombinant spider silk fiber has been widely used in automobile industry". We know it hasn't been.
In Chinese, there is no such thing as verb conjugation to denote tenses. It's one of the most difficult parts of the English language for native Chinese speakers to master, because there are so many tenses, and each can only be properly used in select situations. Their language does not require verb tenses to communicate the concept of time, this is a huge problem when native Chinese speakers translate from Chinese to English. Chinese speakers know not to always use the present tense of English verbs, but sometimes their attempts at switching up the tenses lead to incorrect sentences.
The present perfect tense is especially hard for them.
Found this on a Chinese company website that says it's "China's first non-woven materials company"
Antibacterial cars of “big red spider silk”
The red recombinant spider silk fiber, developed by Kraig Biocraft Laboratories in America, can be called as the best fiber of antibacterial fibers. The developers of the spider silk fiber technology adopting genetic engineering sequence, use new transgenic silkworm of composite fiber for spinning and then two cobweb genetic engineering sequence of different definition will take into effect. Consequently, a various recombinant spider silk fiber with higher tensile strength than the old species is formed. The new genetically engineered spider silk fiber takes its name from the fact that it glows bright red under UV illumination.
Kim Thompson, the CEO of Kraig Biocraft, points out that there is a noticeable trend in the development and research of automobile interior materials that big red recombinant spider silk fiber of composite materials will be used as automobile interior construction materials (such as car roof, door trim, cover plate of rear compartment). Now, big red recombinant spider silk fiber has been widely used in automobile industry. When automobile interior materials are made of antibacterial fibers, antibacterial cars of new concept will come into being. It is of vital importance for car drivers as well as taxi drivers.
http://www.costingroup.com/en-us/newsDetail.php?news_id=13
No. It's not from the engineering article. It's just a horrible translation from English to Arabic and back to English of the October 7th press release about the commercial production of MS being launched.
Either way, it appears to be a dead end as far as new information goes. Dang it.
Might have been a couple changes made to it. But nothing significant.
An Arabic linguist would be what we need. I used google to translate back into Arabic then did a search for the original Arabic text. Nothing came up. I tried the whole text, partial text and etc. Nothing at all came up.
As I understand it, there are many, many forms of Arabic and if you do a Google search about translating Arabic text, you'll discover that it is a MAJOR problem.
I think that the person who posted this on the Arabic forum just copied and pasted it from another website. I am only guessing this because of the Ray Ban links that are mixed in with the text.
I have a few customers who are native Arabic speakers who hopefully can at least tell me more about the website where the person posted the English translation. I'm not holding out much hope that they'll be able to tell me anything since we don't have access to the original Arabic text.
I'm curious to know why anyone would post an English translation on an Arabic forum. It's obvious that the poster is not an English speaker (not a good one at the very least) since the posted English translation barely makes any sense at all.
I will post any insight I learn from my Arabic speaking customers. It might take some time though. I do not see them on any regular basis.
Arabic page.... You talking about this one I posted the other day?
http://www.banatmool.com/vb/showthread.php?p=68176
Someone else can hopefully make sense out of this find. It's worth a laugh anyway. I don't know what the original language is but it almost looks like a post enticing people to farm Monster Silk. Identifying the original language might give a clue. Hindi maybe?
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http://www.banatmool.com/vb/showthread.php?p=68176
This may have been posted before. Not much here but worth looking at. You'll have to scroll down to the comment section to find what I've pasted here. It's at least nice to see that CH "expect that PPE will be an important application (for MS)". I'd expect that if testing weren't going well, he would have said something along the lines of "we're still testing/evaluating".
Roderick
JANUARY 29, 2014 AT 10:56 PM
Do you see KBLB’s MonsterSilk(tm) as a possible material in the use of the gloves?
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charliehowland
JANUARY 30, 2014 AT 8:33 AM
Roderick
MonsterSilk(tm) fiber is still a work in progress but yes I expect that PPE will be an important application.
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Here's the link: http://turtleskinprotection.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/engineered-protection-composite-materials-for-cut-and-puncture-gloves/
I hope you're correct. I take "seedling source" to mean mulberry tree seedlings to improve silk production.
Before you go to the trouble, make sure you haven't already done so. I saw after the fact that es1 already posted that article. Thanks.
If Kim is making his final arrangements and/or developing certain strategies going forward for said province,we have no way of knowing.
I think we know now. I think the article I just posted about Kim's visit in March 2013 leads me to believe that his most recent meeting in January WAS the final arrangement.
I think we can safely ignore the stuff in parenthesis about "homework to Chinese rap". Bing translator came up with this (K medium Thumbnails squares labo rap out to Paris) lol
I found this on a Vietnamese website. The date of this news item is 27 MAR 2013. It's tough to make sense of it, but it at least proves Kim was in Lam Dong 25 March 2013 meeting with local officials in Bao Loc. Google translator doesn't do Vietnamese very well. Sorry if this has been posted already. If it was, I missed it.
http://lamdongtv.vn/thoi-su/201303/uBNd-Tinh-Lam-dong-tiep-tap-doan-Kraig-Biocraft-Laboratories-Hoa-Ky-274625/
People's Committee of Lam Dong Province to Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Corporation USA
Published: 15:18, Wednesday, 27.03.2013 [GMT +7]
(Lamdongtv.vn) - As part of the survey work and environmental mulberry Da Lat - Lam Dong, Pham S - Vice Chairman Mr. Lam Dong Province has followed Kim Thompson Group CEO Kraig Biocraft Laboratories ( Bai O K cold out to Chinese rap labo ri) from San Fancisco - the United States delegation. At the meeting, the delegation of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Corporation (K cold out homework to Chinese rap labo ri) has appreciation of the situation survey results and potential production of Lam Dong mulberry after field trip at Bao Loc on 25/3. On behalf of the People's Committee of Lam Dong, Pham S - Vice Chairman introduced the advantages that Lam Dong has been in mulberry fields and promised to create favorable conditions to develop good relationships cooperation in the field of agriculture between the two localities. On behalf of the delegation of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Corporation (K cold out homework to Chinese rap labo ri) Kim Thompson, General Director of the corporation thank their grand leader of Lam Dong, open relationship friendship and cooperation between the two localities on mulberry field and hope this collaboration will increasingly intensive development by the same group have new sources of Lam Dong has left the land resources, climate and human suitable for the development of sericulture in both scale and quality.
I found this on a German website (regarding Amsilk) and used google translator to read it. It's dated 9/2013 Here's the link and a glance at what Amsilk thinks of Kraig...
http://www.brandeins.de/archiv/2013/verhandeln/gar-nicht-spinnert.html
While the U.S. biotech company Kraig Biocraft is still tinkering to improve their production processes , the German competition is already one step ahead . In March, the Bavarian company AMSilk presented in Martinsried near Munich, the prototype of a new fiber. This is called fiber Biosteel and consists of proteins that are found in nature in the threads of the spider ...
..."Have taken the crucial hurdles to innovation for the production of fiber we have," says Lin Romans, the head of research . "We now build a larger pilot plant , the fiber further improve and then start industrial production ," announced the managing director Axel Leimer ...
...And how to assess the AMSilk men their American counterparts ? You watch them carefully , but relaxed : " The fiber of the transgenic silkworms can not compare with our stuff ," said Leimer .
What he means : He considers them inferior. Because the proportion of spider silk in the fiber of the transgenic silkworm is he estimated a maximum of ten percent. In addition, the production process of the American company was vulnerable to disturbances and variations in quality . An explanation is provided by his colleague, biochemist Lin Romans : " In highly developed organisms such as silkworms or goats, for a correct installation and a long-term functionality of the spider genes are much more difficult to implement than in bacteria. "
Thanks. I'd read all I could find in the press releases and articles but not many details. I guess we're still waiting.
I can only guess at possible applications of BR. I'm happy to wait while production of MS gets ramped up. With this Vietnam news, I'm anxious to hear more and more.
What is the difference between BR and MS? As I understand it, BR is stronger but not as flexible as MS? Is there an article and/or press release explaining the difference? I've tried to find articles comparing the two but can't really find anything definitive.
Thanks in advance!
The following quote is from an article dated October 27th. I believe this is where we got the idea that Warwick will receive MS this month......
Next month, Howland and Warwick Mills' 150 workers expect to get the first shipment of Monster Silk, but it could be years before the fibers can be woven into a marketable fabric.
Granted, this may have been conjecture, but I believe this is where I got that idea in my head anyway.
Here is the link:
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20131028/NEWS02/131029323&source=RSS
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I've never posted before and almost never look at message boards but am long on KBLB 500k shares so I was bored and stumbled across this one. I'm an options trader but dabble in equities when I see something with huge potential. I hope this will put to rest any worries about why a company would issue a PR about a change of accountants. I've copied and pasted the following from sec.gov website. There is nothing at all to read into a change of accountants. It could mean nothing, could mean everything. I see no reason whatsoever to assume the worst when there is no evidence whatsoever. It happens every day. Issuing a public statement is required. Best of luck.
Form 8-K
In addition to filing annual reports on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, public companies must report certain material corporate events on a more current basis. Form 8-K is the “current report” companies must file with the SEC to announce major events that shareholders should know about.
The instructions for Form 8-K describe the types of events that trigger a public company's obligation to file a current report, including any of the following :
...Section 4 Matters Related to Accountants and Financial Statements
Item 4.01 Changes in Registrant's Certifying Accountant