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That would certainly be an interesting feature. Although a loophole might be that someone could delete their profile and come back with a new one. The internet is an anonymous world.
A poster on another board sent me this link with some investing tips. I read thru this once and will have to keep studying it. But perhaps this is relevant to the discussions we are having.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30835203
Good luck to all.
With regard to KATX:
When your stock's making a loss (selling):
How far might this stock fall? Can I afford to lose that much, or wait for it to come up again?
When stocks are falling, it is very bad news in the short-term. It is likely that some investors will panic, and stock may continue to fall, causing a chain reaction. But it's important to keep in mind that this is also an opportunity for other people to buy in, since stocks are for sale. Because of this, it is possible to cut your losses now, and try to sell before you lose too much money. But this is unlikely, since people, especially if they've made a profit until now, will be selling too, and new investors are likely to only want to invest once the stock has fallen as far as it's likely to, to maximize their profit %. Of course, if you are at this point, you may as well wait for it to go up again yourself...
In the long term, it may not matter much at all. Stocks will eventually rise again! It all depends on how long you want to wait for it to happen. Another option is to wait until it starts to go up again, so you know that people are buying in, and sell then, even though you will be making a loss. If you wait for it to go back into the greens again, you may end up in the same situation again, especially if you bought the stock at a bad time, or a price that it may not reach again anytime soon.
Courtesy of:
http://tcbasic.com/tutorials/stockmarket
Yeah I saw that too.
For those that didn't, here is the article steve5 is referencing:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/28/canola-canada-idUSN2816535420110128
I don't believe the CEO and the company were involved in the earlier paid promotions. Those paid promotions, the run up in the stock and its eventual collapse back down in a very short time, could possibly have been part of a greater plan to stop this company in its tracks before it could land a big contract.
I am not going to say that is what happened, I don't know. I just like to take every possible scenario into account. I never watch the news or the market with anything but the most critical eye and I always ask myself Cui Bono (Who Benefits?). The below is all theoretical and is not even necessarily what I believe but I will not rule out anything.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE FOLKS DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE I OWN A VERY SMALL POSITION IN THIS STOCK SO SMALL I CAN AFFORD TO LOSE IT ALL BUT I AM HOPING TO SEE THIS GO UP AND BE SOMETHING. PLEASE INVEST WISELY AND WITHIN YOUR RISK TOLERANCE.
This is a HIGHLY COMPETITIVE market, just like the Reuters article stated.
WHAT IF (THEORETICAL):
a) Competitors saw that this company was making progress on long coming plans to try and build a processing plant that might make a dent in their profits. Here's this upstart, small company being named a top 50 emerging growth company, looking to play with the big boys. And make no doubt this is big business up there, something to be protected.
b) COMPETITORS paid for promotions to overhype actual news. I have seen some messages kicking around that literally MILLIONS of emails went out pumping this stock. If any of you got some of those emails, look at the bottom to see how much was paid for them.
c) Short sellers swarmed in, view this as a "pump and dump". A lot of negative posting starts - the whole "friggin barn" thing. Short sellers have their own motives, separate from competitors. Competitors knew this would happen.
d) Trading volume reached very impractical levels for such a small, relatively unheard of company - around 80 million one day.
e) Naturally local authorities were concerned - that level of volume is just not natural for a small company in rural Canada. They stepped in to curb this volume by issuing the halt & cease trade orders while investigating this bizarre volume and who is behind the paid promos causing this.
f) A number of investors got spooked by the crazy volume and the BCSC halt & cease trade orders and the thing starts to look like a scam.
g) a hatchet piece is put out in Reuters, which has never covered this company before, with the party line being towed - too competitive to get into this market, overproduction, nothing to see here folks, move along.
h) this latest news is not accompanied by a paid pump. True invesotrs are expecting the stock to go up on this news. Competitors have bought a lot of shares and have a hired gun market maker selling the stock off to keep the stock price down.
Alright, admittedly that's a conspiracy theory but can anyone argue that the above is not FEASIBLE.
The moral of the story - keep eyes open. Don't accept everything you read, see or hear. Have an open mind about what could or couldn't be happening behind the scenes.
Thanks for posting this. It's really quite nice.
I was kind of hoping they would get in there at the last minute or something and maybe just missed getting listed in this PR.
This is some history of the company from their prospectus. The full prospectus is available in the company news section here on IHUB with the 8Ks, etc.
Clean Power Concepts Inc. was incorporated in the State of Nevada on October 17, 2005. On October 28, 2005, we incorporated a British Columbia company named Loma Verde Explorations Ltd. as a wholly owned subsidiary and, on April 29, 2010, we acquired 94.8% of General Bio Energy Inc., a Saskatchewan Corporation as our primary operating subsidiary and have subsequently acquired an additional 0.3%, bringing our total ownership of General Bio Energy Inc. to 95.1%. The consolidated audited financial statements included herein have been prepared by Clean Power Concepts Inc. and its subsidiaries, General Bio Energy Inc. and Loma Verde Explorations Ltd. (collectively “Clean Power”, “We”, the “Registrant”, or the “Company”), in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States. Our financial statements are presented on a consolidated basis and include all accounts of Clean Power Concepts Inc., General Bio Energy Inc. and Loma Verde Explorations Ltd. and eliminate all intercompany balances. In management’s opinion all adjustments necessary for a fair presentation of the Company’s financial statements are of a normal recurring nature and are reflected in the periods included.
Since inception the Company has not been involved in any bankruptcy, receivership or similar proceedings and the reclassification, consolidation, or merger arrangements in which the Company has been involved are as follows: (i) The Company was originally incorporated in Nevada as Loma Verde Inc. on October 17, 2005. On March 22, 2007, the Company incorporated a wholly owned subsidiary named Clean Power Concepts Inc. in Nevada and by agreement effective April 2, 2007, Clean Power Concepts, Inc. was merged into the Company for the sole purpose of changing the name of the Company. We then became the surviving entity with the name Clean Power Concepts Inc. In conjunction with the aforementioned merger, the Company forward split its authorized, issued and outstanding common stock on a 56 new for 1 old basis. On October 26, 2009, the Company decreased its authorized common shares limit from 11,200,000,000 to 1,000,000,000; and (ii) Through a share exchange agreement executed on April 29, 2010, incorporated herein by reference (the ‘Exchange Agreement’), we acquired 94.8% of the issued and outstanding common shares of General Bio Energy Inc. (‘GBE’), a Saskatchewan Corporation, in return for issuance (the ‘Exchange’) of 28,426,612 restricted shares of our common stock (the ‘Shares’) based on a ratio of 18.21 common shares of Clean Power for each 1.00 share common share of GBE submitted for exchange. The Shares have not been registered under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the "Securities Act") are be deemed "restricted" securities under the Securities Act and may not be sold or transferred other than pursuant to an effective registration statement under the Securities Act or any exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act.
The Company was originally organized for the purpose of acquiring and developing mineral properties and was therefore considered to be in the pre-exploration stage. Mineral claims with unknown reserves were acquired, but the Company did not establish the existence of commercially mineable ore deposits and determined it should abandon its mineral claims and pursue other business opportunities, one of which was the alternative energy business. On April 29, 2010 we acquired General Bio Energy Inc. through a reverse merger and are currently operating a business focused on the environmentally friendly green energy industry. General Bio Energy Inc. (“GBE”) was incorporated in the Province of Saskatchewan on February 14, 2006. GBE was originally named Canadian Green Fuels Inc. and changed its name to General Bio Energy Inc. on September 18, 2008. GBE commenced its pre-production stage on May 1, 2006 and began selling products in July 2008. From 2008 to 2010, GBE has continued to develop, research, and test its pilot production equipment, and refine its alternative energy technology. The Company is a producer of a range of products manufactured by crushing fuel grade oilseed. The Company’s production facility and head office is located in Regina, Saskatchewan.
Effective with the execution of our reverse merger on April 29, 2010, we changed our fiscal year end from June 30th to April 30th. The Company’s common stock is publicly traded in the NASD Over-The-Counter Market under the symbol “CPOW”.
Still wondering if KATX was represented at this:
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2011/nr/0124n04.htm
Here's my take. This one is risky. But the opportunities are huge.
We have to be on top of this and see how things develop. Right now we have plans. Plans need to be brought to fruition.
See this article:
http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=90324596&channelId=2951&buyerId=newsmeatcom&buid=3281
and then this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12266435
China is far ahead of the rest of the world in creating a new clean energy future. They also have a lot of mouths to feed - 1/6th the world's population. And they are having drought.
Reading between all the lines, it is pretty clear why a Chinese company might be interested in getting oil/biofuels from Canada.
KATX has been going down for 6 months. I am wondering if it is going to bounce or just keep dropping. Any seasoned bounce players care to comment?
This is a link to a presentation put together in May last year by GBE which is now part of CPOW:
http://www.gbenow.com/assets/GBE%20Investor%20Presentation%20-%205-1-2010.pdf
Dude I would love to but I don't have that kind of change right now.
I hope you have some takers.
lol.
thanks i needed that.
Yes. GUESSING is the operative word.
I am not sure the financiers have offloaded all their shares yet but I am not sure they haven't either.
What is going on exactly behind the scenes is anyone's guess.
I have advanced some theories about that, as have others.
What we need:
a) Minerals in the ground.
b) restoration of investor confidence whatever that is going to take.
c) financing for future exploration.
Come on, Ken & Co. throw us a bone.
I wish I knew.
But I will say the Dow is down 165 points and NASDAQ 68.
Trading in pinks is risky - feels like the Wild West sometimes.
Sometimes we just cannot predict what is going to happen.
Definitely surprised myself...I thought for sure we'd get some lift off. But at least it didn't tank like some of the big boys on the big board did today.
I guess the question then becomes a) did KATX ever get the full $5 million financing and b) did the financiers ever get the full 50 million shares.
And to that, how many shares do the financiers have left to sell?
Just to let everyone know, if you see some "deleted message" notifications, they're duplicates. IHUB seems to be having continued issues and some of your posts are coming in 2 or even 3 times today.
Looks like we COULD end up in the green here in the last 9 minutes or so, my stream shows it just went from -0.006 to -0.003 in the last minute.
lol.
thank you for bringing some balance to the board.
Unless for some reason they want to put it out after closing bell.
My, it is like being on tenterhooks, isn't it?
Does anyone know if a PR needs any kind of official (governmental) approval?
I am a little lost on how you came up with the short interest being 3.5%. Pardon me if this is obvious. I seriously don't understand a lot about shorting.
Someone had posted something earlier about the Chinese company, a full translation of their webpage. I believe they are a state-run organization.
It is indeed odd.
Is there anyone with Level II that can give us an idea of what is happening?
All I can see is that BUYING is about to catch up to SELLING. It's almost 1:1 right now.
Yes indeed.
I guess we'll see. I am a little stunned that PR didn't seem to make a dent in the shareprice yet. Then again, I have seen no paid pump to go with this. Which I am taking as a good indicator that the monkey business with paid promos and shorting is coming to an end.
Would be SO nice if a whale of an investor with DEEP POCKETS bought all those financier shares up and got them off the line once and for all. We'd probably see a resurgence just on that one factor alone being eliminated.
To me it is obvious the guy has been trying to bring this plan to fruition for awhile.
The question we have to ask ourselves is how feasible is it to do so.
It looks like he is at least further along than ever.
Seems like there are a number of plays on this stock:
1) Biofuels.
2) Cattle feed.
3) Cooking oil for Canada.
4) Neutraceuticals.
Any one of these could pan out or not.
Yep, seen that kicking around on this and a few other Canadian stock boards. Looks very promising for Canada.
For us Americans (USA residents) it's with a little jealousy that we see Canada doing so well when we're in such a rut with unemployment and such.
Apparently the TSX has outperformed the S&P 500 for 7 years running!
We've had this conversation on here over and over. Even some of the skeptics admit financiers don't stick around. I believe one poster said "they never fall in love with a stock." If they got their shares for sub-pennies and are selling for pennies it's still profit. And by the way I don't think the sellers know anything more than we do about Rusty results.
Thank you for this.
I had asked in an email for the CEO to put up his photo and a resume on the website. Hopefully that will be done soon.
BTW the stock is trading again in British Columbia if anyone had a question on that.
Good to see the PR is out now.
I certainly hope this deal is legit.
Let's see how the market takes this news.
Good luck to all.
Canadian Green Fuels is Michael Shehner's former company. I cannot seem to get a date on this article but it is talking about a meeting in April - last year?
I am not sure where that name comes from. As far as I know the only persons involved in CPOW at this time are listed here:
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyOfficers?symbol=CPOW.PK&WTmodLOC=C4-Officers-5
And this has to be fairly recent as Michael Shenher has not been the CEO for long.
Just to put things into perspective for everyone.
This is a small company in rural Canada.
They deal in a business that is mostly farming related. These are down to earth people, not business suit types driving between skycrapers in limosines. This is not a put down, in fact, all the more admirable. I am sure this company and its potentials will mean a lot for the local economy there.
The website pre-dates Michael Shenher's assumption of the CEO role in this company. When I first bought this stock back in December, the news on the website was from 2007. I emailed the new CEO and called this to his attention. A day later it was updated - he did it personally.
From my communication with him what he is focused on is the long term planning for these deals that are still in the works.
You are looking pretty much at a fledgling company with big risks but a potentially bright future if plans come together.
They do not have fancy offices, secretaries and high powered attorneys and accountants and IR people. If you want that, invest in companies that have those things. This is a speculative play.
The Chinese investment, if it comes together, means that yes the investors get most of the profits but they also assume most of the risks and the costs in new facilities. This kind of financing arrangement is not unusual for small companies trying to go big.
All must do their own due diligence. Decide if it's a game you want to play. If so, do so responsibly. If not, find something you want to invest in.
Again, ASSUMPTION.
There is more going on behind the scenes than publishing drill results.
Delay does not = bad news.
It COULD = that. But you don't know. You ASSUME.
Me too. I think we will see a bounce news or no news.
Ouch. Yeah that is odd.
Thank you for this observation.