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Well actually cell phones were very expensive 30 years ago, only rich people or business owners had them. The per minutes charges on analog cellular were very high.
Qualcomm worked on Trials for years with service providers before CDMA went commercial, they were not making a profit at the time but they moved forward with what they had because it was better then what was out there. In terms of voice privacy and more important capacity.
They had an excellent business model with the technology licensing the tech to the infrastructure providers such as Motorola and Lucent. And of course mobile manufacturers had to license the tech to be able to sell mobiles.
There was basic CDMA, continued improvement to 1XRTT CDMA ( voice and data) then to EVDO ( 3g data )and finally now to LTE which will go advanced LTE and then whatever 5G will be. They do not have a strangle hold on LTE due to it being an open tech developed by all major companies in the industry, but they still have patents related to it.
They did not start with the end product or go commercial with the end product they went commercial with a product that worked, improved on it and advanced the tech and sold that and continued from 1992 thru to now.
That is how it is done, not by never going commercial till the blockbuster product and profit all in one.
JMHO
Bill
So what you are saying is that this management has decision paralysis. They will only make a deal if they can make a profit so they never make a deal.
Nobody in tech makes a profit off the bat.
Unless they have a game changer. Which neah claims but never shows or sells.
Guess their tech is not efficient enough.
Jmho
Bill
Glad that you are satisfied with Hope cause that is probably all that you will ever get from NEAH.
2/3 of Q1 2016 gone and nothing from NEAH so far but hot air.
I feel really great about involuntarily becoming part of the NEAH charity. In retrospect I guess since it was a loss for me last year ( tax loss sell ) it does fall into that category for me.
I went to the website and under the investor tab it says to go to their investor hub at Agoracom. I guess someone needs to volunteer free web time to fix their website. Misinformation on your own website in the investor page does not bode well for investor ( charity ) relations.
jmho
Bill
If you are D'Couto or one of his buddies then that explains everything....very disturbing.
This is the "STOCK MARKET" not the "CORPORATE CHARITY MARKET".
Bill
Drivel ! That is absolute drivel !
LOL.
Bill
Unfortunately for other shareholders the TRUTH is in what they can sell this stock for if they have purchased it.
That is not an opinion, that is a COLD HARD FACT. A little truth that reinforces itself on a second by second basis continually.
You cannot deny what has been accomplished by this company with its stock value. LOL.
JMHO
Bill
This is a company that went from having a research department and budgets to the current iteration with no employees but the 2 guys squeezing the last 10th of pennies from the stock price.
This process took almost a decade, not slow in coming. Yet you have the gall to accuse people of being impatient.
Your wholehearted approval and opinion of stockholders to think positive about this situation really tells a lot.
JMHO
Bill
Yes the pps speaks loudly. I agree.
It has been doing so for a couple of years.LOL
Jmho
Bill
Yet all very true or you would actually attempt to refute it with facts.
Your theory of keeping quiet so that new investors are trapped does not fix NEAHs issues.
I find it interesting that you don't accuse NEAH of being irresponsible with all the empty PRs and forward looking news that is never followed up on again; except to repeat same said news over and over.
JMHO
That 7 cents/sh was actually a very temporary accomplishment in one trading day.
If I remember correctly the stock opened at about 3 cents and closed at 3 cents that day.
Everybody loves to point at that as the pinnacle, it may have actually only been one trade. The seller made out like a bandit and the buyer got royally screwed.
But hey that's why they call them "pump and dumps".
Don't think your gonna get a 5 bagger , 10 bagger or a 20 bagger in the next week. You will be lucky if the price doesn't drop to a new low.
DR C is preoccupied with getting paid..and that's about it.
JMHO
Bill
Nobody put anybody in their place. It doesn't matter who looks at your tech if there is no purchase of it whether it be in manufactured form, license form or any other form.
If they cannot attract an integrator who is willing to help develop a usable product line then nothing was actually accomplished.
WHEN NEAH announces financing I may begin to believe that they may have a plan going forward, although they have squandered millions to no avail as of yet.
Unfortunately the proof is in the stock price.
JMHO
Bill
Actually if you go to the Business Forward.org website and click on EVENTS , there are fly in events, local briefings and webinars.
There is a place where you can "request to be invited" which is most likely how this happened.
There are many Universities all across the country performing fuel cell research, many get grants from the DOE nothing special there, same for many private businesses. What differentiates the winners and the losers is what those entities do with the research grant money.
NEAH has not received a Grant yet they may have applied as they stated an intention to do so. The deadline has passed and they won't know if they have been awarded anything till summer.
Now what has happened with financing ? as they will not be able to accomplish anything in 2016 as they stated for 2015 in their 10Q.
So far NEAH has not met any of their self-set milestones for Q4 2015 or Q1 2016.
Nothing new here. No reason to declare victory.
JMHO
Bill
That is quite an increase in the share price. Do you know something that we don't ?
Bill
I agree that 10q was worthless nonsense as are all the NEAH tweets about other companies.
JMHO
Bill
That 10Q was real nice, looks like we got our answer about the financing.
Maybe at the White House they were asking companies what they did in order to not make the same mistakes as they did. That's why they invited D'Couto, I knew there was a catch !
Seriously though, we may be at the end of the tunnel and the light is a train. D'Couto and crowd seem to be in the vacuum about their financing so that means they probably won't get it.
JMHO
Bill
You guys are amazing ! Connecting dots that don't exist. In reality NEAH has not licensed anything to anybody.
Like I said step 1 is financing, without that nothing happens at all.
I would hope they could demo this thing, however it appears to be in infancy if they are just asking for development money from the DOE.
We will see what NEAH does next. Maybe NEAH will be able to connect A DOT. Heck ! I would like to see " A PICTURE " of this wonder battery, of course we know that will never happen.
JMHO
Bill
Since Shorai is not a manufacturer and is only a distributor why would NEAH need them.
NEAH is supposedly trying to sell licenses of their tech, why would they need physical locations ?
In the past the thought was that NEAH would get into the manufacturing and sales business, they then put that thought to bed saying they would be a licensing co.
As for Tesla they are using their own tech and building their own battery factory. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot ?
NEAH pumped their white house visit very hard. They need to follow up with something for the present to show they are actually making progress, otherwise its just more vapor.
JMHO
Bill
I just hope Chris says " Buy some of my stuff !".
Seriously though, this could give NEAH some very good exposure and put their name and possible solutions out there.
Something else has prompted an invitation to this briefing and that is what inquiring minds want to know. I am sure they did not pick names out of a hat. The underlying reason is the real news, but that is something we may not know for a while.
Hopefully next news is "FUNDING COMPLETE"
JMHO
Bill
If Chris really cares about this company and the direction it is headed in then he needs to steer it in that direction.
#1 - He needs to get the financing done. He opened up the A/S for this purpose and can now reserve the 1.25 billion sh for the loan. If he didn't or can't get the loan then the ride is almost over.
#2 If they are really going for the DOE grants then they need to submit in 2 days and we won't find out who was granted till summer. Unfortunately making the lab a mystery makes the news seem not plausible. However there really are DOE grant applications due in mid January so an aspect of that PR has truth maybe all of it. Will wait and see.
#3 Since they admitted they could not follow thru on 2014 and 2015 business plans due to lack of funding we know that the other teaming agreements have not had headway made on them. Announcing and not following thru damages his reputation irregardless of his intentions.
#4 Having a website point to an information resource that does not exist (ex. Agoracom ) and claims that are not true (ex. "Buzzcell taking order sep 2014" on the Buzzbar Suite website )damage their integrity so any interested investor will see these, see they are not accurate and see a scam. At the very least, they will see a management team with no focus, and no interest in making the effort to provide accurate information on their website.
Nobody believes Chris any more and the only person that fix that is Chris. So start fixing it or wallow in super sub-penny till the end of the line.
JMHO
Bill
Not even a picture of the battery, no mention of the A/S blowout, nothing about the supposed financing.
Another NEAH mystery goes into the hopper for mass distribution but its so mysterious nobody knows what to believe.
JMHO
Bill
Having open and endless faith does nothing to offset NEAHs failure to close anything.
Whining about the facts brought about NEAH does not offset anything.
Only NEAH can change that and your insistence that people buy now in case NEAH has success is not a viable strategy, knowing that they will open up the A/S by multiples of the billion plus they have now.
Knowing that a reverse split is almost certainly in the plan why should anyone buy ?
JMHO
Bill
NEAH has a window of opportunity that is closing fast.
Cutting edge is non-platinum catalysts. That is what will make fuel cells cheap and affordable.
Cutting edge will be passing them by if they do not have a market established.
JMHO
Bill
Even though all those other fuel cell companies are not in the black they are generating revenue by actually selling fuel cells to actual customers.
NEAH claims to have their economics beat, with higher power densities safer fuel, yada yada yada. Yet they have not sold one, don't even have a picture of one except for one bad video, and a Purchase order for a claimed demonstration.
NEAH has stated in its SEC filings that they were not able to move forward on their 2015 business plan due to not having the cash , yet they sold a million dollars worth of stock last summer, what did they do with that money..pay the light bill ?
While there is no article stating they are a fraud , there is no article stating they are a success. Just forward looking statements.
As for your promise never to post on this board you claimed that about a week ago and yet here you are.
NEAH can refute me at any time by getting financing, by selling a fuel cell, they would even get props for updating their website, unfortunately they don't seem to care about running a business as much as they care about selling stock.
The stock price says it all.
JMHO
Bill
And your interpretation is based on ???
Bill
I think its pretty telling that you cannot point to any positives about the company any accomplishments by the company. Your arguments/statements about the company and a lack of a market are actually more of a reason not to invest in the company.
Your only argument, one trick pony that you are, is "Oh the impatient whiners ! ".
Sorry buddy, if 8 or 9 years results in nothing its one thing, if a company PRs accomplishments and calls out that they are a "leading provider of fuel cells to the military and first responders " , while providing nothing to the military and first responders, that is a whole other thing entirely.
If you are being paid to promote to new bagholders you should be fired cause you are very lousy at that. You really need to manufacture a way to promote the stock, your third grade methods are not deterring negative and yet truthful responses.
"We are gonna fail until we maybe can succeed " does not cut it.
"Don't point out our failures cause it makes us fail" does not cut it.
JMHO
Bill
What happened to the 6 million in financing announced for Q4 2015 ?
We are 30% thru Q1 2016 and nothing in the hopper.
Typical NEAH. ANNOUNCE...fail to close..fail to follow thru..re-direct..
What happened to the MOU with Mysterious South African entity ?
What happened with the "high level " talk with the DRDO ?
I can hear D'Couto now. "Somebody get me off this scaffold ! I'm afraid of heights ! "
JMHO
Bill
They raised that in 3 days, shows compelling interest.
jmho
Bill
So what you are saying is there is no market for fuel cells.
eZelleron another real STARTUP fuel cell company raised $500,000.00 in 3 days on kickstarter for its Kraftwerk fuel cell which runs on lighter fluid.
Don't say the market isn't there, it is for a sleek looking simple to use power source. They had more than 6,000 pre-orders.
Kind of puts your theory in the dirt or are you justifying NEAH's propensity for failure ?
The original powerplay was sleek and could have had a market, so either it didn't work or had some other issues...or it was created to sell stock.
JMHO
Bill
I agree that its fishy, he would personally know all the "major shareholders" , don't know why he left but he was an insider during D'Couto's tenure.
Will be interesting to see how that plays forward, in the meantime we wait as always.
jmho
Bill
Yes he does sound legit, but wondering what his endgame is. He was the CBDO at NEAH when they announced the LOI with Ekovehicles which went nowhere as all NEAH LOIs and MOUs.
The first thing NEAH needs is financing, although that does not guarantee accomplishment as they have burned through millions to no avail.
Pretty sure we are in for more of the same. Updates that are not updates and financing that never occurs.
Hopefully D'Couto proves me wrong.
JMHO
Bill
I am sure that he does, he just does not want the "whiners" to point out the holes in the story.
My criticism can easily be silenced by an actual accomplishment, an actual information rich website, however those things do not appear to be in the interests of the company.
If you want to sell stock, give prospective investors a compelling reason to buy it.
JMHO
Bill
Exactly ! It appears that NEAH is interested in raising their stock price or at least selling some stock and finding buyers for said stock.
To this end they need to promote the company appropriately.
NOT hiring companies like Quality Stocks, NOT re-iterating the same sad messages over and over, HOPING someone will either believe and buy or hoping the message reaches somebody different.
If you have developed Fuel Cells ( protypes and demos ) for these large customers then at least document the initial lab testing and post on your website.
All PRs encourage people to learn more about NEAH by visiting the website and the website has cursory info, PRs, tweets some basic whitepapers and links to the buzzbar page with old outdated information. Not much to learn there.
One video with bad background music running LED lights..Okay this is where marketing ability and vision are advantageous. Show a fuel cell running a computer, running an inverter that runs motor for a pump, or running a dc motor, a fridge, a remote security system, you have to show fuel cells running things that people/companies use and need at various loads.
Most importantly, if you claim to develop fuel cells for various needs you have to show some developed fuel cells, otherwise prospective investors see a scam, OTC companies are already looked at askance, no need to feed the perception.
More than 10 years of development work has to have yielded products, if not, then the company is indeed a scam, time for NEAH to prove to investors and prospective customers that they actually do what they say they do, not by saying it over and over, but by showing what they do.
JMHO
Bill
I watched this a few times just to be sure what he said, and it was nothing different than what he has already claimed, "we are making progress", they have supposedly been making progress on this since last year, not really an update.
They went from "we are at high level negotiations" to "we are making progress", nothing indicating NEAH is closer to a licensing agreement than they were in June.
With all the useless PRs they have been releasing, they may be trying to fight the falling stock price for a different reason maybe tying with financing or something. They have not delivered in the past and nobody is buying it anymore until they actually deliver a completion instead of empty promises. "The check is in the mail" will no longer work.
They should change their name to "Reiterating PR Systems".
JMHO
Bill
As for the financing that did not happen, since you like to forget the unpleasant parts of NEAH, they could not get a 1 million dollar loan last year in order to supposedly merge with Shorai.
We went thru update after update, next month, then next month and they never got the financing.
Your assertions that these guys are busy like elves behind the scenes doesn't follow with accomplishments announced, with the lack of operating capital available and lack of follow thru on other teaming agreements.
This ain't crying, this is stating an observation as to where we are at, it's not up to me to change that, it is up to NEAH to announce the milestones, unfortunately they don't ever seem to achieve those.
jmho
Bill
Answer what questions ?
NEAH has announced many mergers, teaming agreements and development contracts for years. Still waiting on one to lead to an actual money bearing contract.
IN the past they announced a development agreement with a mysterious DOD contractor and nobody bit. If this was true they should have had products developed that fit other applications to sell to others, yet they always claim to need time to go back to the drawing board. They cannot claim victory on this one.
Development LOI or MOU with ION geophysical then they said nothing for a long while supposed to lead to 88 units, perfect for non-air application then after ignoring the questions on Agoracom for a while they announced it was a no go uh no money to develop (we thought they already had a non air breathing fuel cell),do you see the pattern ? They cannot claim victory on this one.
DRDO...they worked this for a year and claimed victory...searched but did not find the DRDO response. oh well, no sale yet, maybe never, they have been in high level negotiations and waiting to meet for almost 8 months.
Tectonica demo was supposed to be in October they hired Quality stocks to PR/Pump this and then nothing but silence, they did not claim victory and have not addressed it.
So an agreement to develop something is very vague as they do not set a timeline. If they stayed quiet about something for a year and then boom had contracts that would be a different situation.
NEAH seems to announce, then get quiet, ignore the subject for a while and let it die. They then take a different direction. Who knows ? They don't put anything of substance on their website.
JMHO
Bill
They said "we will continue to share developments in the upcoming weeks"
I read " we will do nothing in the upcoming few weeks but would like for you to buy shares so the stock price stops sliding "
This is so exciting, i'm gonna take $40.00 out of the piggy bank and buy 25,000 sh. On second thought...neahhh I won't do that.
JMHO
Bill
A better plan for you to make money would be to invest in a fertilizer plant and you could take the worthless NEAH shares and add water you can probably get more value from them decomposing than waiting for the company to be able to borrow money.
This last update was a doozy...NOT ! Same status except they acknowledged they didn't get the loan, as if we didn't know. They are getting daily updates ! Must be depressing to hear "no" every day.
They could have spent less on the update by just saying "Status - same as 2014 thru 2015 and ongoing thru 2016 " and left it at that.
If you read the last update then you can see no development has been going on and no demonstrations, they need money to do that and nobody will lend them money.
At the current stock price and an additional A/S blowout this stock price will be in the basement of the sub-basement.
JMHO
Bill
Cheer up ! This is a great buying opportunity for you! It only hurts if you are interested in selling right now.
LMFAO No kidding !
You are gonna be rich..uhh maybe you should just buy Powerball tickets it may be better odds.
JMHO
Bill
Now I'm LMFAO, for real...In the business world like companies make this thing called money by selling the stuff they make, whether it's a product, a process, but these guys can't seem to convince anybody to buy one of their products or ideas.
If you notice when you go to the other guy's websites, they don't say much about NEAH except to post NEAH's PR, sometimes they don't even do that.
If they love NEAH's products surely they would buy one at least. LMFAO at the stock sellers...uhh pumpers without a clue.
Plus if NEAH Had a whole bunch of these Fuel Cells laying around they could probably take a picture of one and put it on their non-updated website...
LMFAO some more, about you whining about the truth.
JMHO
BILL
Bottom line, they haven't made any revenue...so far nobody interested in paying for it.
Call them the "show me" crowd if you want...but NEAH isn't in the " pay me "
group yet.
Its all factored into the price ...lower lows does not spell "LOTSA CONTRACTS"
You appear to be the cry baby...whatsamatta can't find any more bagholders ?
Jmho
Bill