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spree, IDCC and IHub being in the lime light means that we need more responsible posts (without hidden agendas) even from the gloom & doom sayers.
Waiting for our day under the sun.
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Learning2Vest, interesting observartion. Let's hope for the best.
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NOK cnbc interview, please do not send questions regarding IDCC-NOK to Mark Haines. I don't think he will ask Jorma the questions from the viewers and even if he did ask, I don't want to listen to the self serving responses from the snake (not to mention the analysis from the gloom and doom gurus later on).
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ams13sag, if it happened in the past month, then it should be the NOK 3G lawsuit. But, if the incident has really happened, it tells me that NOK is manipulating IDCC stock and leaking information. I guess even that can and should be slapped on NOK's face during rebuttal.
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texb, thanks for clarifying. I think that the single digits portrayed there are basically if everything around IDCC goes to doom and any investor would know that it is not possible.
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sjratty, do you remember the pre-ERICY settlement price...then add ERICY settlement, few new licences, GD contract to that...I guess you can figure out the rest. Any temporary pull-back will eventualy be recovered. The not so rosy picture drawn by Frank also has a price target of 21, then how can you think that it will go to single digits.
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All nay sayers, try to understand the difference between the reality and pessimism. People trying to spread pessimism under the cover of reality (self assumed facts) for their own personal gains, BEWARE!
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DannyDetail, our prayers are with you and your family. Hope your grandson recovers soon.
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AH, huge block....hope tomorrow is THE day
After Hours
Last: $17.58 After Hours
Best Bid: $17.58 After Hours
High: $17.62
After Hours
Volume: 187,070 After Hours
Best Ask: $17.58 After Hours
Low: $17.40
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Time (ET) After Hours
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17.54 $ 17.58 178400
17.51 $ 17.58 6400
17.36 $ 17.40 1000
17.01 $ 17.58 270
16.01 $ 17.58 100
16.01 $ 17.59 300
16.01 $ 17.60 100
16.00 $ 17.62 200
16.00 $ 17.62 300
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laranger, I guess you guys might be over analyzing their holdings in IDCC. If MerrylLynch, SalmonSmithBarney or some other big institution have a position in a stock and they are under a SEC investigation for some other reason, that doesn't necessarily mean that the stocks they are holding in their funds will be effected.
I hope we get THE BIG NEWS soon and we start analyzing the future of IDCC as a big player in the sector. Waiting for our day.
JMHO.
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jaykayjones, thanks for the info and all your effort to make this board an excellent knowledge base.
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Will this company ever know how to protect shareholders interest by shouting foul when it is required. How long can IDCC play this defensive approach. Who are we trying to soothe here....being silent doesn't work sometimes. I hope IDCC opens its mouth to clarify things.
Management, if you are listening...use your PR department for once.
GoodLuck All!
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ellismd, without all the information in hand how can we assume that it was a big brick in England. Nok can claim whatever they want and that might not make it an important and license effecting event. Until IDCC comes out and says that it is a serious event (I guess SEC would require them to do so) or arbitration panel deems it important, it could be just NOK trying to make the noise.
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Dave Davis, How can a convenience license be effected by one or two patents and by the information provided on this board I gather that NOK has a convenience license with IDCC? Why did they pick UK of all the places and why would the UK court make a suggestion regarding the ICC arbitration? Is it convenient for NOK to have it their way in UK?
2 cents.
Good Luck all, I really hope IDCC vigorously defends its position and properly throw a Injunction suit against NOK.
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ams13sag, if there is no 8K, then it means that it is not material and also the GD contract 8K was submitted later and it in fact referred to an increase in the revenue (increase in tax hints increase in revenue), so, that would make me think that the expenses, if any, are immaterial.
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Alley, then why didn't everyone else sell. I guess that would be considered as insider trading. I am not sure if these patents will effect IDCC's patent portfolio that much, but, I would venture they will not have that much impact and those sales will not be considered as insider trading with prior knowledge.
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From lloboblanco on yahoo board, interesting
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=4686767&tid=idc&sid=4686...
Still waiting on analyst updates for GD contract.
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Someone wants in badly. It is really suspicious when someone says that they have put in a order for 19 and odd and then start posting negative stuff. I usually don't respond to these kind of posts, but, something is really fishy and it stinks real bad.
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JimLur, I concur with you regarding Tilden, but, I would like to give Howard benefit of doubt because he held onto his 30000 shares (or was it 45000?) and sold a little for tax purposes (IMO). Tilden has been selling almost at every opportunity he gets. I can't comment on his needs, but, anyway, this has been discussed here many times and I hope we will be over it pretty soon. I personally can't forgive him for killing the rally (IMO, his sale along with the market change of direction killed the what would have been a pre-arb run-up). But, I am responsible for my investment decisions. I am hoping for another, however small it might be, run-up.
I am also waiting on analyst updates for the GD contract.
GoodLuck All.
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sonic22, JumLur, options expire next Friday (not this week) to the best of my knowledge. That gives us an extra week of hope.
Good Luck.
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spencer, refer to whizzresq's response to my question and also captainslog's response to whizzresq's response. They need not be necessarily free (refer to link provided by captainslog)...but, they might also be free grants as a compensation for the achievements. Either way, they do have a vesting period associated.
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whizzeresq, thanks for the clarification.
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Question, I know that many people on this board posted that these shares are free grants, but, the FORM 4 say that they are acquired...so, is there any cost involved for the buyer/acquirer to own these shares?
TIA
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sjratty, if they exercise now, they will have a smaller tax liability immediately....tax liability is for the difference in the price on the day they are exercised and their strike price.
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sjratty, to the best of my knowledge (rmarchma or someone more informed can confirm this) exercising of options doesn't fall under insider trading. They just the locked the tax liability (for the difference between the current price and their strike price) and started the clock for the long term gains.
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captainslog, even those 438 shares are in 10b-5 plan. This is an excellent signal for everyone. 120,000 shares is not a small number.....I am eagerly awaiting the highs again.
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BOXTER S, Thanks for the info. All, Isn't this a good show of confidence for the upcoming arbitration. I hope IDCC gets back the momentum that it lost couple of days back.
Good Luck All.
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GAB, I was hoping that there wouldn't be any more. I thought I read one of the messages that said for tax purposes the sale has to be on or before 29th Dec (that might not be true though). So, I am just trying to see through my rose colored glasses.
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Happy New Year To All. eom
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rmarchma, thanks for the response. I haven't seen anymore F4s today (that's great after what has happened today)...so, I am waiting for a better start next week
Happy New Year You.
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rmarchma, the sale still looks like a tax sale. Second sale could be to cover the tax obligation on both the sales. Still might not justify the sale. I am looking for insight from tax peerspective.
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intime, thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical and understandable. Goldberg certainly seems to be holding everything and selling only when absolutely necessary (contrary to what these guys are trying to project).
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Did we all forget about the additional tax liability announced by IDCC in the 8K. I am still hoping for something good from IDCC today. Remember, that last insider sale back in August or September didn't effect the price negatively.....in fact, if I remember it correctly, IDCC ended up the following day.
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IMO, insider sales will not effect us negatively tomorrow. The last time there were some sales (I guess, by Merritt or Fagan and someone else), the stock has moved up in fact. This time around it is the not the same as what happened after ERICY settlement. I too hate to see brakes being applied to the run-up (if it happens), but I guess being so close to arbitration, selling doesn't flag IDCC's bad position or else it will fall under SEC watch for selling before negative NEWS. I would have preferred no sales....but, if they happened, they can't be negative.
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IGNORE THIS MESSAGE (I guess they update the total open interest at the end of the day)
Regarding Jan 27.5 options, just noticed that the total volume before and after the burst of 520 or 540 options remained same at 3994. So, I guess someone was closing the calls they sold. Option experts, any comments.
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all, suspicious volume (atleast IMO) on Jan 27.5 options. I guess there was a burst of around 500 (maybe half an hour ago) which brought the total volume to around 546.
The speculation continues..........
-vg_future
IDCC short interest down by around 110K.
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/asp/short_interest_resp.asp?searchby=Detail&IssueID=22162
-vg_future
Merry Christamas and Happy Holidays to All.
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robweiss, Regarding expected new licenses and tax increase, I guess taxes might be applied to the amount recognized as revenue for this quarter from any pre-payment. Anyway, it could also be from the Option NV license unless that has laready been reported in an 8K earlier. Accounting experts, opinion???
TIA
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davids, good catch. I am wondering if that could be the pre-payment by ERICY with an amendment to the existing (or perhaps even more interesting....a 3G) license. Experts, any comments?
TIA
-vg_future