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I was stunned the stock was not down 10 or 15 percent this morning like normal after a press release. But like you said before they gotta get this Europe and ROW revenue way up or the stock price is stuck. The buyback may help some but the revenue is all WS cares about period it seems. Not even sure if positive Brave findings would do much.
They were certainly not bad but that talicia revenue is still nowhere where it needs to be to keep them from doing more offerings. They cannot continue these nonsense offerings they have to find another way to get money.
That stinks. Stuck at a buck for the next couple months I guess. Also, really no reason to pre release earnings if they are good if they really want the stock price kept low until the buyback.
In theory when can this buyback start. It will get approved on 04/18 but how long until it is approved after that? We really need to get this thing moving soon. Being patient is getting really old.
I mean I keep hearing this but is there any guarantee the price will rocket up just cause they are buying back shares.
Looks like the run up is over. They will have to follow it up with more good news soon or I assume we will just drip back into the .80 cent range like always. They really need to pre accounce some good earnings in the next week or two.
You are way better off settling than trying your luck in a courtroom anymore. Most of these judges these days have a personal agenda they follow be damned to the rule of law.
Yes much bigger news. Now they need to follow it up with some good earnings and the share buy back so the stock actually continues to move up and is not driven back down below a buck like so often happens.
Also would help if AMRN pre releases revenue again in a few weeks and has a big number. Add in the buy back and shorts hopefully by July will mostly be gone.
I agree this could drag out for years and I hope by then the company is already sold anyway. Settlement is probably the best hope honestly but I am not counting on anything from these court cases to help us. The number one goal should be increasing sales in europe to get the company ready to sell imo.
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So in theory what percent of the market for V is still protected by patents that they should not be selling in?
I hope you are right. We had not had any lucks in the courts til now so its hard to be optimistic but I guess you never know.
100%. I do not think we should honestly put any eggs into the court basket of2hope. Been there and been burned many a times now. They should continue to focus on the other things they are doing to grow sales. A big court win would be nice but it is certainly not something to count on or maybe even expect. It is worth shot still but likely years away I would think it we do actually get a jury trial.
Can't he just throw it out again when it returns? I have hard time trusting any of these judges to do the right thing at this point honesty. Hoping for the best but certainly not expecting it.
Wait we actually got a court win?
I hole out almost zero hope they will be good. About the only thing we can expect in the future is more offerings.
Certainly is not coming from Talicia because if sales numbers were good they would be releasing them. Instead radio silence.
The quarter end this weekend. Will be interesting to see is they pre release revenue numbers again. They time has come for them to start showing some real increases if they ever expect to get the stock moving. Just treading water is not going to cut it anymore as it has been over a year now.
Nothing these guys do ever ceases to amaze me I have never owned a such shareholder unfriendly company. It is the worst communication I have ever seen and by a mile. They have a drug with some revenue but my guess is if the revenue was really good they would have no issues reporting earnings so I fully expect earnings to not be good once again. This comapany I guess still has 100 employees which I have zero idea what they do all day as evrything has been outsourced. It is really nothing but fluff PR's and bs to get investors to cough up more money for offerings. There is always a chance a miracle happens and I think that is probably the only hope for most of us at this point. I would expect more and more offerings to come it is all they know.
I think the court cases are a waste of time especially to get our hopes up on a good outcome. They never go our way. There may be stuff going on who knows but I have just greatly reduced my expectations from a year ago after I have seen how slow this is moving. I think I started at 15 a share a year ago and now I am down to 5 a share. I guss so many years in this nightmare makes you want to just get out with a little profit at some point which is not 10 years from now. Maybe Denner will surprise me in the end.
Are they really being secretive of do they just have nothing to share? That is the big question. I would feel alot better if we had more than one drug or if they actually had other drugs in trials. But only having one drug kind of stinks really cause another bad court case and it can all end.
It is just a guess based on where we are trading and the current sales figures . The incredibly slow growth of any sales outside the usa and the lack of interest in the company. Throw in the court cases which never go our way and there is not alot right now to get any sort of good offer. The only thing the company has right now is the share buyback. If not for that I am pretty sure this stock would sit under a buck for another six months. They can keep claiming it is undervalued but the market clearly does not think it is undervalued at all. I don't think there is any secret denner plan behind the scenes what you see is what you get.
I think he is right on with $5 a share. Yes there will be small revenue growth but nowhere near what you are claiming unless they dont sell the company for 10 years. Look at England in two years we barely have any sales at all and we are not even selling in big three, nor will we be anytime soon. They would be best to get the price up on the buyback and try and sell is in the next year for $5 a share. None of us want to sit around nother 5 years waiting for maybe 8 or 10 a share which is no guarantee anyway.
There was alot of talk year ago about how Denner could get 15 share but we were all naive and delusional at the time. There is no way he could get 15 share for this company.
They are not even professional enough to release earnings once in 7 months. I mean these guys get worse by the day and that is really saying something.
7 months since they reported. Amazing they offer up nothing at all ever. Makes you think they are in very bad financial shape.
We are years away from and sales being built up heck the big three in Europe are still years away from any sales. I dont really know what Denner's orginal plan was but I think he is going to have to take alot less than he though he may get unless he wants to sit around for 10 years with AMRN waiting on sales.
The first two years of the launch have gotten us 1,500 people "on therapy" in a region of 67 million people. That
1500 people in two years how in the world can we ever get any good sales figures at that rate? I wonder if Denner knows something I dont or he just did not realize how hard the sales would be to come by. The face we have only one product just kills us.
I would be tickled to get 5 a share at this point and move on. But at the rate of speed the sales in ROW are moving 5 a share is several years away it appears. Depressing
I still dont see other than the buyback what is going to move this stock at all and even the buyback is no guarantee. We have zero catalyts coming up in the next six months that I can see. It is basically just hope and pray that somehow ROW sales can increase alot.
We have been loading up for years at some point you simply cannot buy anymore.
Hard to imagine a year into denner we are back under a buck again with our only real catalyst being a stock buyback in two months. He may eventually get the price up but this is not at all how I imagined this would go.
Just more fluff with no sales numbers. There is a reson the stock does not move on these PR's
We have all missed massive opportunities especially the last two years as the market has soared by being stuck in this pig. And now here we are once again under a buck with the only real catalyst looking to be a stock buyback in three months. Now I think alot of Al stocks are probably in a bubble but it makes me sick the amount of money I could of made on some of them instead of being in this terd that is at .93 cents.
Yeah I remember one of them did but I do not remember who it was.
Whatever happened to Brave? It was the talk of this board for months and now nobody even mentions it at all.
Boy I dont know Europe moves at slower than a snail's pace and if US revenue keeps dropping how do you make up the difference. I mean if they stayed at this for another 5 years maybe we could hit the numbers you mentioned but not in the next two years no way. The revenue in England after 1.5 years is a lousy 1.5 million. That is nothing. Like you said noboby is probably even interested anyway right now in this company. Just keeping my expectation level. Thought 15 a share when they first took over but reality shows me 5 to 7 now. Any maybe the situation was just so much worse than they thought it was the expecations have changed.
What is you timeline for 1 billion is sales out side the usa. Right now we are at like 5 million. I mean are we talking 5-7 years?
Another totally worthless press release which nobody cares about in the least. Seven month and counting with no earnings at all. What is the hell are they trying to hide.
I am guessing 5 -7 a share is probably about the best we can hope for but I think most all of us would take it at this point. I guess if there is some huge surprise with something like Brave maybe a higher price but just solely going off of the current situation and how slow europe is 5-7 seems best cast imo.
I assume we are short sale restricted after yesterdays bloodbath?
In what world could they ever get 5 bucks for this company it cannot even trade at a buck a year after they took over. Any small gains it ever makes are smashed down hard at earning. I really hightly doub there is BO anytime withint he next two years they will not be able to get the stock price high enough.