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I want to know when the quarterly is coming out. Quarter 2 is due out now for this is Aug 7 and the quarter was over June 30.
percival77,
You are absolutely correct in all that you say.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US ABHI INVESTORS.
Kraken Taken,
I prefer nothing to be FAKE. I pretty much like just a straight shooter - not Obama's crooked path.
If it is Rich selling I think that is understandable in order to pay bills, order new products,other various expenses and then pay himself.
Frankly, selling 16 million shares at this point does not get me excited.
pocket.change,
You nor does anyone else except Rich know whether or not he is the one selling.
Support yourself with facts and not guesses nor surmises.
TenKay,
You are absolutely right. I have found on many such chat boards that to many uninformed by a few stocks and all of a sudden they feel like they are full of wisdom,light and knowledge in trading stocks.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ !!!!
Jtmathis422,
25K, no way!!! You have to be an accredited investors with at the minimum 250K, I believe it is, before you have any hopes, if any, to short pennies, much less sub-pennies at that, using a margin account. And, the law prevents the use of any IRA or other retirement account from being used to meet any financial requirements required by a margin account.
Go call E-Trade and get yourself straighten out.
sjoseph,
So what ? And ?
That is a R/S(Reverse Split)- when you end up with fewer shares than you started with that is a reverse split.
In my opinion and I do not think I am wrong a forward split is where you get more shares than you currently have.
MAYBE MY MIND HAS TAKEN LEAVE OF IT'S SENSES AND HAS NOW WANDERED OFF ON IT'S OWN AND IS CURRENTLY FLOATING SOMEWHERE OUT IN THE COSMOS.
IF SO, THIS WILL NOT BE THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED.
ANYWAY, GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
Doing a forward split as you suggest is adding more shares. Now why would Tom add more shares for adding more would greatly lower the PPS. IN THEORY AND SOMETIMES A R/S INCREASES THE PPE BY REDUCING THE TOTAL SHARES OUTSTANDING - ESPECIALLY IF THE AUTHORIZED A/S IS ALSO DECREASED. AM I MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ? IF SO, SORRY.
There are all sorts of shenanigans in splitting shares that can happen. Just have to wait and see if some sort of split was to happen. Thus far and to my knowledge nothing of this sort has been mentioned by management. The closes thing that I have heard is a post by CJ where he put up a post, I believe it was, where Tom said he did not want to do this.
There have been so many post and he said, she said that it is hard to actually know where things stand.
trades4ever74,
I am sorry for what I said. I was in a very foul mood yesterday for something completely unrelated to you. Sorry I took it out on you.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
1masonunderGod,
The .015 means absolutely nothing pre-market. Doesn't even mean someone might be thinking this.
J-Gunner,
Our Federal Government, SEC, and other regulatory bodies allow the MM'S to privately trade for their own accounts - just like insider information.
The main reason, I have been told that the our government allows the MM'S to trade, as such, is for their keeping the pinky market in balance.
So, I normal pretty much assume when I see such sales as you refer to that it is an MM or several MM getting together to maybe buy or sell for their own private accounts.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO GOOGLE T-TRADES AND READ SOME OF THE T-TRADE DEFINITIONS AND REASONS.
GLTA
dwjones,
Google T-Trades for yourself to read. T-trades can indicate several things and mostly has to do with MM'S.
The T-Trades were made sometime during the regular trading hours.
There is no pre market or post market trades on pinky stocks - ICNB being one of them.
TRADES4EVER74,
You need to get it together. Nowhere did I even mention a figure for buying back any shares. I am one that is not in favor of buying back shares except out of a company's surplus capital. When a company is young and trying to grow capital is much better used to financial support the growth AND NOT BUY BACK SHARES.
GO BACK SCHOOL. There are way to many unknowns for you to even be logical as you call yourself. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ !!!!!!!!!
I could say much more, but my time can be better spend doing something else such as even watching crab grass grow than to converse with you any longer.
I think it would not only be absolutely foolish, but financial irresponsible to buy back any shares now. IMO they need to use all of their finances to move this company and the company's products and services ahead at this point in the game.
I am not sure they should get rid of any of the toxic debt since they just signed those agreements. But those far wiser in these matters are far more knowledgeable in this area than I am. If there was no toxic debt I definitely of the opinion that all monies should be used to move the company ahead and NOT buy back any shares now.
But, I have been wrong before and I am sure I will be wrong again somewhere on my journey through this life.
GTA
The PPS this morning is holding up pretty darn good.
motorcityAce,
Wise up. If you would take the time to call your Scottrade Branch they will inform you that those numbers pre market have absolutely no meaning.
A few years back I called my own Scottrade manager and asked about this. I was told to not pay any attention for the flickering of the board PPS for penny stocks at this time of morning are meaningless.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
Deal McMogulson,
What you say has merit to it and you make a good point. We will just have to wait and see. Myself, for one, am going to be very quite and still and just watch.
GLTY AND GLTA
trades4ever74,
Why should you use PPS of .05 ? There is absolutely no way to tell at this time the PPS to use.
I am not one to say, "Lets just use the PPS of .05 and go from there". It is way to early to even consider such thoughts as you have running around out in the COSMOS IMO.
To me your thoughts are like building a house on sand and wet sand at that with no solid foundation underneath.
If you want to daydream go right ahead FOR DAYDREAMS ARE NOT BAD FOR YOU IN SOME CASES. BUT, IF I AM GOING TO HAVE $10,000+ INVESTED I WANT SOMETHING NOT QUITE AS FLIMSY AND UNSUBSTANTIATED WANDERING AROUND IN MY HEAD.
EACH TO HIS OWN THOUGHTS AND ARRIVING AT THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS - I GUESS.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
QServus,
At what PPS does the Golden Cross happen ?
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US ICNB BELIEVERS.
Solarguru,
I don't doubt what you say one bit.
trades4ever74,
How did you come up with the figure it would cost 1 billion dollars to buy back ? Did you just reach up and pull a figure out of thin air or what ? I am referring to your post 83908.
needitfast,
You really need to google T-Trades and find out what T-Trades are.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
You can say that again.
fresh28'm
Your thoughts and statements that you have expressed in this post are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, we have seemingly quite a few who think they are stock guru's and know it all according to what they write - they really do need to stop pestering BVTK'S management and let them do their very difficulty job without interference.
Thank you for your post and good luck to you, your family, friends and all of us BVTK INVESTORS.
Coins2Paper,
I think you have given me a straight answer and I thank you very much.
Last night I went back over some of yesterday's news and nowhere, and I mean nowhere, did I see even the slightest possible news or financial information that would eliminate the stop sign.
Surely, our very own fish wrapper poster on BVTK would have SHOUTED OUT SUCH NEWS, but it was silent !!!
GOOD FORTUNE TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTH INVESTORS.
TenKay,
Thanks for straightening me out on this.
TenKay,
Thank you. Now, I am a little better informed.
TenKay,
If I am correct that one seller could also be another MM. They could either be trying to maintain an orderly market or helping one another make their own profits. Right ? I know there are a myriad of other things they could also be doing if I am correct.
The reason I decided to enter into T-trade discussion is that I have seen on numerous occasions very young traders proclaimed these trades to be dilution without their even knowing what a T-trade is. So much for our chitty education system. They don't seem to even know why or how to investigate and learn.
TenKay,
I thought it was something like what you say. The MM'S use T-trades to better facilitate their inner day trades or something along these lines.
Thank you for your input.
Chat later with you and always good to see you.
Bionic Man,
Thanks for the info. Been a long time no see you except on occasion.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK BELIEVERS.
Kingsolomonspoolz'
Is the Stop Sign actually gone ? If so thank you for the news. I hope others confirm this for this is very important event if actually the case. I VIEW THIS OCCURRANCE IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN ONE PERSON WITH CONFIRMATION.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
dugie100'
Google T-trades and read all about them. You need to be greatly enlighten to the why's, what for's, purpose, methods of T-Trades. It is fairly involved and is really a tool that the MM'S employ for various reasons mostly to maintain an orderly market in the stock. They are also used for the MM'S to also make a profit which is allow by the government authorties. Sort of like stacking the deck in the favor of the MM'S since they most definitely can do insider trading.
Come to think of it Congress(both houses) have granted not only themselves the right to commit insider trading without penalty, but all of their staffers and some others in the halls of our crooked government also have these rights. They can trade on information that they gain as sitting members of Congress in hearings and word of mouth, not to mention all of the information various companies are required to tell or show members of Congress. This has been available to Congress for quite a few years.
How do you think the average Senator on his salary can afford to become multi-millionaires. Most do have previous wealth, but the average wealth if all Senators is $8,000,000. The vast, vast majority of the House Of Representatives are also millionaires and most are quite wealthy also. Both parties are guilty of this arrogance and spitting in the face of the American public.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ !!!! The greatest greed and corruption against the American people has been perpretrated by the Clinton's.
It is not the rich to necessarily be feared, but our dishonest and corrupt Politisans of both parties. I believe the greatest corruption and dishonesty among these politisans will most likely be found among the Black Caucus if consider a group, but practically all of them are dishonest and thoroughly corrupt.
No one is short here and definitely not a retail investor.
E-trade, Scottrade, etc will not let you short this stock down here in the sub pennys. Nor is the stock ever traded pre-market or after-market. There is no market pre or after for stocks in the pinkies. I talked with the Charleston manager of Scottrade along time ago.
Good one !
It just as probably means they do not want some immature, mental midget investors holding a few thousand dollars worth of stock playing big shot from IHUB and else where bothering the companies.
These companies and management have more important things to do then to get bogged down answering so many questions. Go to a shareholders meeting, etc.
Why do I say the above ? Because I have experienced on IHUB and else where companies getting pissed off and a few to the extent that they curtailed further discussions with companies because of this.
Diego 1235,
Why do you say there are no T trades on Fridays ???
I am just going to sit back and closely watch BVTK while I add more shares when I feel a good PPS comes along based on whatever additional information is available.
I am planning on doing nothing more and nothing less since I most definitely do not know what is going on behind the curtain.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL AND US HOLDERS OF BVTK SHARES.
The figure you used of 156 million in your own words was for the U.S. market. No where was the global market mentioned.
I have also found that to many people used the wrong terms when speaking of revenue and income. They are different - very different. They even have their own separate sections on financial reports.
Also, at this point I do not think their is anyway to compare Kasper and BVTK without knowing much more about both - strengths and weakness, the effect of Kasper being under Russian influence however great or little that might be, etc.
To my knowledge very little is known at this point much about BVTK'S system either - such as limitations and breakthroughs, etc.
So, I ask myself there is no way to know what financial data lies ahead for BVTK, much less the potential of BVTK. I know what is hoped for of course.
There is so much more we really need to know. Hopefully, every week we will learn much more so we will be able to continually make better and better informed decisions.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ALL OF US BVTK INVESTORS.
Today, I bought and added to my previous holdings 2,000,000 more BVTK shares @ .0020.