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re: "...we know the "knock your socks off news" is coming any day now..."
...im confused
from where did this statement come?
wasnt it from a supposed hear-say conversation with winick?
wasnt part of that same so-called conversation where winick stated there were only 2.5B OS?
how did that work out?
then there was the "within 45 days"...how many B's were sold/held as a result?
anyone recall the infamous "like a volcano erupting"?
i believe those individuals are still waiting...only they are now also embroiled in litigation
thank God at least we all know this will never see .0004, or .0003, or .0002
interesting numbers...
of course there are just a few "omissions"
ever hear of overhead?
you know...those pesky little things like salaries, contract obligations, rentals of venues, GSA, day-to-day expenses, etc etc
and of course there is the small detail of the so-called 20% interest, of which the above also needs to be adjusted
so its down to $83K minus expenses
...all that of course is assuming BKMP even has a 20% interest in any of this
[sure would be nice to have an 8K on ANY of recent "developments]
but PPS isnt "their" fault...according to "some" posting here its YOUR fault...that being anyone that insists on buying at the bid
and anyway...this will "never see .0004"...and "never see .0003", or "never see .0002"
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
OT: 83 and beautiful...off to da beach
mr_happiness on RB writes:
"...What high school kid writes these press releases? No wonder the stock is in sub-pennies - that and the company still working out of a home in AZ doesn't help"..."
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interesting, happy...
first post ever recorded was in nov 2003, on this board, bashing for 2 months, SP around .10, OS and volume almost non-existent
next set of posts begin in march 2004, mentioning a court order against the company, SP less than .02
july 2004, mention of miller/rapid funding "departure", SP less than .01
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1075993/000110465904020314/a04-8074_1sc13da.htm
oct 2004, mention of 3 new S8's, SP around .001
one of the last posts in nov 2004:
"...this stock has been a wonderful short - 1.5 all the way down while management prints paper for their buddies - I have no doubt the new one will be even better!!..."
[SP starts to turn north]
stock runs from .001 in nov 2004 to .089 in march of 2005, then essentially just straight back down to current lows of .003's...and this is the first post from you since the previous all-time lows??
...interesting
GOOOOOOOOOOOO MSEP
07up, bravo!...
...source please
thats not correct...
one example of many [and of the infamous cornell]...
"...convertible by the holders into shares of our common stock at any time at a conversion price equal to 85% of the average of the trading prices of our common stock..."
[normally closing SP]
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename%3D0001144204%252D05....
...you give bashers a bad name
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"You're a loaded gun
There's nowhere to run
No one can save you
The damage is done
Shot through the head
And you're to blame
You give bashers a bad name
I play my part and you play your game
You give bashers a bad name"
[bon jovi]
re: "...We've just had 161M bought..."
really?
0.0004 1000000 OTO 10:58:53
0.0004 1000000 OTO 10:58:52
0.0003 500000 OTO 10:43:37
0.0003 500000 OTO 10:43:37
0.0004 1000000 OTO 10:31:30
0.0004 1000000 OTO 10:31:28
0.0003 400000 OTO 10:29:16
0.0003 200000 OTO 10:29:16
0.0003 400000 OTO 10:29:16
0.0003 300000 OTO 10:29:16
0.0003 2500000 OTO 10:28:37
0.0003 1000000 OTO 10:26:25
0.0003 500000 OTO 10:24:25
0.0003 999999 OTO 10:23:50
0.0003 500000 OTO 10:19:25
0.0003 3500000 OTO 10:16:48
0.0003 3000000 OTO 10:16:24
0.0003 9000000 OTO 10:02:44
0.0003 2000000 OTO 10:02:44
0.0003 9000000 OTO 10:02:43
0.0003 271666 OTO 10:02:10
0.0003 4728334 OTO 10:02:10
0.0003 1035000 OTO 10:00:50
0.0003 4000000 OTO 09:58:26
0.0003 9000000 OTO 09:58:26
0.0003 3000000 OTO 09:48:12
0.0003 2500000 OTO 09:47:45
0.0003 2500000 OTO 09:47:45
0.0003 5000000 OTO 09:47:45
0.0003 300000 OTO 09:43:14
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10439214
NOT EVEN A MENTION IN SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
anyone happen to notice a few things missing
in the filing?
not one mention of TFN, or TWN...not even under subsequent events [besides a few other tidbits missing]
could it be as i have been stating all along that its blackout communications that has the 20% interest and NOT BKMP?
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and for those debating "capital stock" and "paid in capital"
capital stock--
The number of shares authorized for issuance by a company's charter, including both common stock and preferred stock.
paid-in capital-
Capital received from investors for stock, equal to capital stock plus paid-in capital. also called contributed capital.
reported OS, TA and winick...
did we all forget all the individuals that claimed they spoke with both the TA and winick several weeks ago and claimed they were told either "no dilution" or "OS has remained the same"??
[perhaps pulling up those posts to refresh some memories is in order?]
but here it is now in the companys own filing...3.8B as of dec 31...a full 3 months ago! [and as confirmed in this filing...UNLIMITED AS]
so take your choice
1. the TA was lying
2. winick was lying
3. posters were lying about speaking with winick and/or the TA
there is no gray area in this debate...one of or all of the above were lying...plain and simple, and supported by the companys own filings
as i have already posted, imo the OS isnt even the real issue/concern...its the deception and how that very well could be spilling over into other statements/material events...both by winick and posters reporting those supposed communications
and is why i have stated over and over that hear-say is worthless...as is the supposed reporting of said hear-say
GOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
"interesting" post murray...
some say "perception is everything"...
as i NEVER said this "gem" didnt have the potential to do well, and as a a matter of FACT, i have stated the opposite more than once
but the perception by many is that because i challenge unsubstantiated statements by some individuals and ask them to post supporting documentation for their statements, and because those same individuals continually choose to project me as lying about known facts...that is how many perceive me
this is of course even though i have repeatedly asked for those individuals to post even one example where i lied...and they have been unable...but that doesnt stop them from continuing with their character assassination...and one would have to wonder why they choose that path of misleading others, and if that extends into material facts about this "gem"
perhaps the answer is, that for those individuals...
deception is everything
most recent example?
just look how the 3 month old OS numbers in the filing are being propagated by some already as current...even extending those dated numbers into attempts of justifying PPS
and just like the unsubstantiated libelous statements directed at me, if the dated OS is repeated enough times as current, individuals eventually just accept those statements as true
and why not?...with so many individuals parrotting the falsehood[s] over and over...it MUST be true...right?
isnt that how advertising works?
just keep hammering away with a "message" until it gets into ones psyche, and they "buy" anything one is selling
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GOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
reported OS is as of dec 31
re: "... for those that can read O/S is only 3.8 bil..."
unfortunately that is from dec 31, 05...a lifetime and billions of shares ago
thats it?...this is the report that was supposed to change momentum?
that so many were telling others, "just hang in there for the financials"??
there is absolutely nothing in it that is relevant to the current situation
now what?
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re: "...a pinkie that files I'm happy..."
while any filing is a plus, this filing is before essentially any "develpments" with TFN, etc
and of course unaudited
its not "bad"...its not "good"...its simply not relevant/impactful to the current situation...and doesnt address any particulars which should have been covered in 8Ks
longs will have to find something new to promote
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
techguy, everything you ever wanted to know
about internet ad terminology [including CPM, cost per thousand]
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid19_gci211535,00.html
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am also "curious" about the continuing suggestions by some of "assaulting the ask"
MM seem to have quite a few shares @ .0003, and longs seem to be pretty well set for shares...so who is it that should be "assaulting the ask"?...newbies?
and wouldnt longs be the ones selling into that "assault"?
and what would all those 100's of M's to B's of shares do to SP?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
beacon27, good post...
and i believe the overall "angst" displayed by some is in a big part due to their inability to accept honesty/reality
there will always be positives and negatives...even if its only ones perception...and to ignore that fact, and its impact on SP, is as you stated..."madness"
ebb and flow
how difficult is that to understand?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GZFX! ;)
looks like more of the same
lower lows, lower highs
and if historical trading follows through, todays intraday little bump will disappear by tomorrow
and actually, didnt this touch a new intraday yearly low today @ .0033?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MSEP! ;)
me thinks you assume too much...again
if one were to read SEC form 4 instructions, they would realize that sometimes things arent what they might seem
http://www.sec.gov/about/forms/form4data.pdf#search='form%204%20instructions'
if you note in the june form 4 under transaction code next to share amt, "P" is indicated which means "open market or private purchase of non-derivative or derivative security"
unless there was a PR that specifically indicated the date and that the "purchase" was made on the open market with personal funds, it very well could have been a private transaction
as well, it is possible that it is a derivative security, which means:
"A financial security, such as an option or future, whose characteristics and value depend on the characteristics and value of an underlying security."
http://www.investorwords.com/1422/derivative_security.html
which may further cloud the actual "value"
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regardless, hinging ones hopes for this "gem" on that one report seems a stretch, particularly given what appears to be billions and billions of new shares hitting the street, no 8Ks or other audited filings disclosing what is actually going on behind the scenes
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
unwarranted deletions continue?...
it appears "a moderator" [anyone guess who?] deleted the info below within minutes of its posting...but it was subsequently restored by admin
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10382542
unfortunately it is now out of chronological order, plus i am forced to use one of my 3 daily posts to bring attention to the info/action
would it be fair to state if this type of documented ongoing behavior [unwarranted deletions, inability/refusal to quantify statements, propagation of questionable info, libelous personal attacks, etc] were to take place on ANY board, it would raise valid concerns over the integrity and motives of the apparent perpetrators?
the most liberating thing about honesty is that one never has to "remember" anything
try it...you may like it
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
the reality seems to be that a few individuals appear to be "in love" with this stock
...and thats supported by the only_MSEP_posting_aliases, the raw content of many of the "longs" posts, and the very obvious/apparent denial
anyone not involved with the stock, who objectively critiqued the past 6 months or so, would, i believe, come to the same conclusion
perhaps the only other possibility is there are shills among us
re: "...KilerB does some DD!!!..."???
thanks for sharing, BUT...
i continue to be amazed that individuals consider speaking with a company representative as "doing some DD"
pray-tell, how is speaking with someone that is OBVIOUSLY biased a source of due diligence?
perhaps we should review again exactly what due diligence involves:
"...examination of operations and management and the verification of material facts..."
http://www.investorwords.com/1596/due_diligence.html
do you honestly believe a company officer is going to offer up any possible negatives regarding "material facts"?
and doesnt "verification of material facts" need/have to come from a dis-interested third party?
some more regarding application of proper DD
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10365188
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while your efforts were im sure noble, did you feel those 4 questions were the most "pressing"?
1. RS?- i have documented several times, in different instances, where a company stated either in a PR, email or phone conversation "no RS"...only to see the stock RS within weeks
2. authenticity of email account?- the layman has about the same probability of verifying who is on the other side of an email account as they have of the thousands of anonymous aliases on these boards
3. blackoutmedia.com?- "...He said he thinks they started to work on it..."
well, that clears things up, lol...and a website that most any of US could put together in a couple of days...much less what a professional org could do in one day??
4. USA deals?- "...We're working on them now..."
again, thanks SW for the clarification/update
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but i agree with you, that because "He seems really cool" is a cause for excitement
besides that everything stated is hear-say, so unfortunately essentially meaningless
one would think that questioning him about a few "minor" tidbits as below might have been more fruitful in adressing some vaild concerns
1. what are the current shares outstanding?
2. does BKMP have a direct 20% ownership of TFN and TWN, and if so, is ROI an equitable 20% of revenues...or is that "ownership" diluted because of blackout communication being in the middle of both "deals"?
3. if there is one or more CDs, what are the terms, ie: predetermined share amount or $ amt [floorless convertible]
4. why hasnt there been even one 8K to disclose the particulars of ANY of the recent developments?
5. when will the next set of financials be released?, will they be audited and can any significant revenues be expected that will be directly credited to BKMP?
6. are there currently any companies/individuals being compensated to profile/promote BKMP/TFN, and if so, what is that compensation?
7. what, if any, is st james capitals involvement?
8. how many bananas are in a bunch?
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once again, thanks for sharing
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
thank you for your continuing contributions
such as highlighting the first pullback on GZFX...particularly after your last observation [pre-announcement] of "Will watch from here"...and just after your comprehensive "T/A"
must be "disappointing"?
congrats to those enjoying the current spike
trade em, dont marry em
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GZFX! ;)
"the devil is in the details"
Opeth, without an 8K...
and based on the companys own PR, i dont see how anyone can confirm ANY ownership
...much less "only 20%"
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PR of jan 17:
"Blackout Media Clarification of Ownership"
if this PR was meant to "clarify ownership", its dificult to see how, given their explanation:
"...Blackout Media owns 20% of Blackout Communications, a private Canadian company who in turn owns The Fight Network, also a private Canadian company..."
assuming anything other/more than the highlighted area above is just that...an assumption
several times in recent months a link to a site discussing multi-layered corps [such as here] was posted, confirming [by citing examples] the "confusion" those arrangements can create
while the PR indicated a connection between the 2 [BKMP and TFN], terms of that relationship [given BO comm in the middle] remain unclear
its understandable that many would want to assume/specOlate an equitable % ROI, but without details of the particulars/terms [via an 8K for example], it really may end up being nothing other than wishful/hopeful thinking
and the same is true of TWN, as per company PR:
"...completed its purchase of a 20% stake in another new specialty digital network called The Wagering Network - TWN, through Blackout Communications Inc. for an undisclosed amount of stock and cash..."
and since the "Two-Year Stock Buyback Plan" PR of 12/19/05 was just posted, thats also a good example of "the devil is in the details"
i dont think anyone would now claim/argue that considerable dilution [many B] hasnt taken place since that PR...or that many would have assumed [based on that PR] that shares would have been bought by the company...not sold
[of course their disclaimer within the same PR affords them tremendous latitude: "...the program may be suspended or discontinued at any time without prior notice..."]
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my own "clarification PR":
it is assumed by many/most that because i analyze any companies statements, or [God forbid!] ask individuals to post supporting documentation for their statements, that i must have some nefarious agenda...that couldnt be further from the truth
just because i dont utilize stock message boards as a chat room, or a place simply to parrot hear-say or company sponsored statements...but rather as a forum to share/discuss/debate due diligence...doesnt give me some "nefarious agenda"
perhaps much of the confusion from my posts is that many individuals define/view DD differently than myself or as investorwords.com:
due diligence
"The process of investigation, performed by investors, into the details of a potential investment, such as an examination of operations and management and the verification of material facts."
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let me give an easily understandable example:
company ABC announces its intent to merge/buy XYZ, pending a term of due diligence
but why would they need to perform independant DD [as defined above]?
...shouldnt they just believe what XYZ tells them?...i guess not
and how many times after proper due diligence do companys ABC announce termination of previously announced plans?
could it be there was a "misunderstanding" and/or that XYZ misrepresented themselves?
THAT is proper DD..."examination of operations and management and the verification of material facts"
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and the same applies on a personal level...so those posting libelous assertions accompanied by childish personal attacks, apparently do so because their erroneous style/level of due diligence [hear-say, etc] they apply with stocks is repeated on a personal level
...wrong on two points
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP!;)
Rasica, love yer "facts"...
keep 'em coming
just be sure to exclude the ones that may have a negative impact on SP or explain why this "gem" is clinging to the gutter like a rat in garbage
anyone think we will see .0001 x .0002 next week?
re: "...use facts about BKMP..."
FACT---there are unlimited AS
FACT---no one knows the current OS or float, and havent for months [no "published" numbers]
FACT---no one knows if there is any direct ownership of TFN or TWN [as per their own PR's]
FACT---SP is off some 75% since early january
FACT---the company has a history of massive RS [1 for 10,000]
FACT---billions of shares have traded in the past 2 months with sideways/negative price movement regardless of "enthusiastic" PRs
FACT---not one 8K has been filed even though several "major" events have transpired
FACT---SW has a loooong history of "failed" ventures [where the common "long" SH lost big]
...more FACTS to follow
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
the post was a follow-through observation/report/question
of an earlier "spam alert" regarding an apparent chronic spammer
...that "spam alert" asked if "guidelines" had been changed, because repetitive posts like those below seem to be "exempt" from the rules, as it appears no equitable admin action has been taken
USXP Daily Chart Three Months Annotated OTCBB ALERTS
3/23/2006 4:12:50 PM
USXP Daily Chart Three Months Annotated Early Bird Special
3/23/2006 4:12:35 PM
USXP Daily Chart Three Months Annotated BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 4:11:56 PM
USXP GAPPER -e- BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 4:00:41 PM
USXP Printing One-Fifty.Five -e- BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 3:18:35 PM
USXP Printing One-Fifty -e- BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 3:15:48 PM
USXP Intraday Chart 60MIN BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 3:10:56 PM
USXP Weeeeeeeeeee! BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 2:33:35 PM
USXP - Thar She Blows... Momentum Players
3/23/2006 1:42:10 PM
USXP - Thar She Blows... BOUNCE
3/23/2006 1:41:54 PM
USXP - Thar She Blows... BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 1:41:35 PM
USXP - Next Target 0.03 BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 1:27:29 PM
USXP - One Left @ 0.0092... -e- BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 12:23:03 PM
USXP Market Depth BB's Penny Haven
3/23/2006 12:16:48 PM
or
RMDG Daily.... Early Bird Special
3/21/2006 11:17:37 AM
RMDG Daily.... Momentum Players
3/21/2006 11:15:57 AM
RMDG Daily.... BB's Penny Haven
3/21/2006 11:15:27 AM
RMDG Moving Out OTCBB ALERTS
3/21/2006 10:38:17 AM
RMDG Moving Out BOTTOM PLAYERS
3/21/2006 10:38:04 AM
RMDG Moving Out BB's Penny Haven
3/21/2006 10:37:51 AM
or
AMRE Daily Chart - Ascending Channel Is In Momentum Players
3/20/2006 1:53:24 PM
AMRE Daily Chart - Ascending Channel Is In Early Bird Special
3/20/2006 1:53:07 PM
AMRE Daily Chart - Ascending Channel Is In BB's Penny Haven
3/20/2006 1:52:11 PM
AMRE Squeezing Up Here HUNCHTRADES
3/20/2006 12:55:33 PM
AMRE Squeezing Up Here OTCBB ALERTS
3/20/2006 12:55:16 PM
AMRE Squeezing Up Here BB's Penny Haven
3/20/2006 12:55:02 PM
AMRE Intraday Chart EZtradin Picks
3/20/2006 11:19:01 AM
AMRE Intraday Chart Momentum Players
3/20/2006 11:18:44 AM
AMRE Intraday Chart BB's Penny Haven
3/20/2006 11:18:11 AM
AMRE Market Depth BB's Penny Haven
3/20/2006 11:06:58 AM
AMRE Market Depth BOTTOM PLAYERS
3/20/2006 10:10:12 AM
AMRE Market Depth Momentum Players
3/20/2006 10:09:57 AM
AMRE Market Depth BB's Penny Haven
3/20/2006 10:09:40 AM
...and on and on and on
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and this of course is besides post after post of personal attacks rife with belittlements and attempts of degredation
its just strangely curious that such continuing TOS violations apparently arent being dealt with administratively
could someone please post...
any/all documented backup DD available for TWN
[not BKMP related PR's...but independent info on TWN]
TIA
PS: murray...still waiting on your posts on RB in support of your statements
and the spamming continues...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?User=14175
just as the post this is in response to indicated with other stocks just a day or two ago
nice to see the equity in admin actions
Time & Sales [from ihub level II depth]
it appears that the .0004 prints have largely been "token" trades
would this be considered "dumping"?
does anyone believe the dated OS/float numbers that are still being propagated are in any way accurate?
if there really is a CD being converted...and since there hasnt been even one 8K filed detailing ANY of the events [including possible "financing"] that have transpired over the past few months...that the CD could be a floorless convertible with unlimited number of shares possible?
Price Size Exch Time
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have spamming guidelines been changed?
would posting some 50 times on the same stock with similar/same posts...in just a couple of days...over several boards...be considered spamming?
and what if that "style" of posting were habitual?
plug in AMRE for just one example of many by the same alias
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btw admin...
after you allowed [with your knowledge] a board moderator to continue deleting ALL my posts regardless of content [meaning there were 0 TOS violations]...you then stripped me of grandfather status/posting privileges because i DID post on the board, and even though they were deleted without cause???
it would be appreciated if the next time you change the "rules" midstream...at least a notification would be nice
of course not selectively applying those "rules" would be double nice
as always, thanks for your unbiased and fair admin
"...Sues Offshore Investment Firm for $100M in 'Death Spiral' Plot Charging Fraud..."
re: this impacts EKWX, TPBV and many others involved with known, convicted criminal goulding and nutmeg
"...filed suit in the Superior Court for the State of California, County of Orange against Randall S. Goulding and The Nutmeg Group, an offshore investment group based in the Virgin Islands..."
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060309/20060309005792.html?.v=1
Tropical Beverage Sues Offshore Investment Firm for $100M in 'Death Spiral' Plot Charging Fraud, Conspiracy, Interference with Economic Advantage, and Defamation
Thursday March 9, 3:18 pm ET
Scheme to Manipulate Stock and Take Control of Company Alleged
SANTA ANA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 9, 2006--Tropical Beverage (Pink Sheets:TPBV - News), a producer and distributor of value-added water-based beverages, today announced that it has filed suit in the Superior Court for the State of California, County of Orange against Randall S. Goulding and The Nutmeg Group, an offshore investment group based in the Virgin Islands and headquartered in Chicago, IL, and 500 unnamed defendants. The suit alleges that among other things, commencing in the spring of 2005, defendants, working in concert, hatched a plan to illegally obtain a substantial number of additional shares of stock than those actually purchased by Nutmeg and to force resignation of Tropical's officers and board members. In 1994, Goulding was convicted by a United States District Court of 18 counts of fraud, conspiracy to defraud the United States, and illegal transportation of monetary instruments, at least one of the charges being a felony. His sentence included incarceration, probation and restitution. Goulding, an attorney, was subsequently determined by the Illinois Attorney Disciplinary Commission to have engaged in illegal conduct involving moral turpitude, dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation, and conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice. His Illinois law license was suspended for four years between 1994 and 1998.
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Goulding, the managing Director of Nutmeg, dumped millions of shares of stock driving share price dramatically down to the injury and detriment of the shareholders. The suit further alleges that Goulding then threatened to go public with information he knew to be false, inaccurate, misleading and/or confidential, or he would sue Tropical and its officers and directors individually unless they signed a "death spiral" agreement. The agreement, which was rejected, would have required the resetting of stock price after which the deflated stock prices which Nutmeg had driven down would enable it to "take over" at least 70% of Tropical's stock, thus enabling it to force management to relinquish control of the company.
The suit seeks money damages for past and future lost profits and business opportunities in excess of $20M, for injunctive relief, and for punitive damages in the amount of $80M.
As part of the ongoing conspiracy, Tropical claims that Goulding and Nutmeg filed a suit in Illinois State Court accusing Tropical, its officers and directors, of fraud, mismanagement, and misuse of corporate finances. Goulding then issued a press release announcing the filing of a lawsuit and making many false and defamatory statements about Tropical and its officers and directors. Tropical has retained Steven Rosenberg, a Chicago-based former Assistant Illinois Attorney General specializing in security litigation to represent it. He has removed the case from Illinois State Court where it was filed to the same United States District Court where Goulding was convicted. Tropical will file a counter-claim in Federal Court seeking substantial damages.
Chris Lotito, CFO and Board member of Tropical, made the following comment about the litigation: "We had no idea of Mr. Goulding's criminal past when he was introduced to us and represented himself to be a legitimate potential investor. We also learned that Mr. Goulding is a chronic litigant involved in numerous previous lawsuits, that he in the past has sued companies that he and associates have invested in and, in 2001, was sued in Florida by a company named Eagletech Communications for fraud, conspiracy, and inducing it to enter into a 'death spiral' scheme not unlike what he unsuccessfully tried to force Tropical to do." Lotito added: "Unfortunately, the legal and financial costs of such organized attacks, along with the negative reaction by the public and investment community weakens companies victimized by such tactics such that there are few choices but to submit to what is, in essence, financial terrorism. We will vigorously pursue these people, expend whatever resources are necessary, and are confident that in the end, we will not only prevail but recover appropriate damages. We remain committed to our products, our clients, and our shareholders and we will be issuing announcements about exciting new business agreements and opportunities, the details of which will be released in the near future."
re: "...you REALLY have no clue. That is SUCH a BS post and you know it!!!..."
how is that?
can you please educate us as to the current OS since you apparantly believe you have "a clue"?
btw, isnt your post a personal attack X 2?
how can you state someone "REALLY has no clue" and that "their post is SUCH BS"?
isnt the only way someone could even make such an assertive comment is if they had definitive proof of the current share structure?...and even then, why be so hostile?
and not for nothing, but it sure does appear that "some" are falling into a very "dangerous" pattern of making statements of opinion as if they were fact...and even advising others?!...and with "guarantees"?????!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10248250
btw: are you a licensed financial advisor?, cause i seem to recall a few pre-bubble that were giving out "guarantees" as well...didnt end up very good for either parties
re: IBCX, last .0175
...geez, who woulda thunk a "gem" with their history could have positive energy [100%+] post RS [on 03/10]?
...musta been all dat pumping i did
[nice volume today :)]
re: "...Apparently the current O/S is around 3.8B and the float is around 2.2...."
really?
i am confident that you wouldnt knowingly post inaccurate/false so-called info??
[which is really twice removed hear-say]
this was already posted addressing just that point:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10230523
...i know you wouldnt want to misinform your "friends" here...just trying to help
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and what of the supposed 20%?
so much for the "clarification PR" that no one cares to "analyze"
it was NEVER stated that BKMP owns anything directly of TFN...only of blackout comm...and without an 8K/full disclosure, there is NO WAY to know what the financial arrangements/sharing is between BKMP and TFN...if any
...how is that "clarification"???...seems more like appeasemant of SHs to me
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no debating this brutal so-called sport [gag & puke] is hot/popular...but isnt that the way of the pinks/otc?
latch onto a hot sector and promote, promote, promote...regardless of actual participation...but sure sounds good...and sure does sell lots of shares
shall i list a couple of hundred examples?
many with the same promoters/company officers at the helm/in control
lots and lots of $$ to be made on these "gems"...unfortunately the vasy majority [particularly the "vulnerable" naive newbies] are the ones funding others profits
i dont see how its much different than going into a senior citizens home and ripping them off with some "helpful" service
remember the last scene in "a few good men"?...when after all was said and done the 2 marines were dishonorably discharged...and one asked the other "but hal...we didnt do anything wrong"
the other replied, "yes we did...we were supposed to protect/help those weaker"
money can still be made with these "gems" without sticking it to others...some just dont want to play that way
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo BKMP! ;)
First Canadian American Holding Corp.: 1.2 Billion free-trading shares from third party (after reverse split equals 120,000 shares) ALL shares have been sold.
http://otcreporter.com/disclaimer.asp
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re: "...Never quote RB here..."
really?
the reality is that RB is at times a much better source of timely factual info
how so?
because between moderators on some boards being a bit too "liberal" with the deletion button, admin seeming to have their own personal agenda, and the pressure to keep advertiser $$ coming in...some info is "difficult" to find on this site
...and its getting worse
and as if to verify/confirm the inequity/bias of ihub, some posters with massive amounts of TOS violations never have admin action taken against them...while at the same time others with trumped-up violations are given "life"
just like "some" governments, the "media"/info is controlled...you see only what the powers that be want you to see...and like it...or else!
and a certain un-named top board is at times worse than the niz thread...with even more rah-rah's and group pumps...actually i would liken it more to the old bobz site
...and imo this site is headed in the same direction...extinction
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo BKMP! ;)
re: CWFG, the longevity of the astroms
...and astrom related stocks, is nothing short of amazing
even after all the legal issues, they still have their digits in an incredible number of stocks [although one has to look longer/harder for involvement, as its usually buried in a stocks history]
and while that doesnt mean they wont have just as good a chance as any other "gem" for a pop...its "puzzling" to see individuals that have been around the block "defending" the stocks viability as a legite company going forward
re: "...But when it goes from simply having an opposing view to trying to manipulate the stock price for personal gain there is a problem..."
and who/how, pray-tell, could someone make such a judgement?
how would/could one know what the "intent" of a poster might be?...regardless whether its an "enthusiastic" post or a "critical" one
answer: its impossible
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re: "... I don't think bashers serve a purpose and I say that because of the way they voice their opinion..."
and how is that murray?
lets take me as an example [an individual that others have pretty much universally determined is a "basher"]
generally when i come to a board i post straight DD with links, references, etc...and many/most of the times am addressing another posters comments
99% of the time whats the "response"?
personal attacks, character assassination, libelous remarks, etc...and after poster after poster follows suit with that type of "response", wouldnt you expect at least some sarcastic comments in return?
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re: "...but when it is done over and over and over there is a problem. The same goes for too much cheerleading. That is equally as bad if done in poor taste and ad nauseum..."
well, i agree with you there, lol...but are those repetitive, overly "enthusiastic" posts dealt with equitably?
...hardly
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general observation: it appears to me that the environment @ ihub is quickly morphing into something far less palatable than its early days
i fully understand that with more members come more issues...but one thing that should never change/waver is the integrity of the site...and imo, "sadly", it may be slipping away
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
re: "...That said, the O/S is still quit small at 3.8B..."
CLASSIC!
not only is this so-called "info" based on a hear-say supposed conversation with an obviously biased individual [SW] with a self-serving agenda...now its being improperly/falsely propagated as current info??
winick supposedly told the individual who made that post that those numbers were as of 12/31....almost 3 months ago
how many billions of shares have traded since that time?
and other than some nice trading ops inbetween, SP is the same as that "reported" date
regardless, so-called info from an anonymous poster who supposedly had a conversation with winick, and then puts their personal interpretation of that hear-say, cant be taken with any seriousness/validity
geez...ever wonder how rumors and bogus info begin and spread?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP!:)
re: "...you have to consider the sources..."
many things are "interesting"
1. i believe the RB poster was trying to be positive, not negative, so why some longs would be so adverse to the posts content is curious??
2. when past posts [such as the now infamous convers post] of the supposed exchange with SW was being digested/reviewed/critiqued, many were hootin' and hollerin', and immediately stepped up to support/defend it...until it was of course "dispelled"
3. the same content of the post now in question has been debated here for the past couple of weeks...what?, now none of those points exist?
4. i would be [and have been] one of the first to dismiss these types of posts as nothing more than fantastical hear-say, but since so many here continue to embrace these types of so-called communications as worthy [of course only when they contain data that is self-serving], i dont see how discussing/reviewing this one now is out of context
5. the truth is EVERYONE is flying blind here when it comes to internal goings-on, as not one 8K has been filed with details of ANY of the events that have transpired over the past several months [including share info]
6. SSDD, and all anyone can do is hope/pray [if so inclined] that some MOMO will be generated...from what source is anyone guess
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
re: "...all facts have been known for quite some time..."
i believe the so-called "facts" were a mix of specOlation, interpretation of PR's, and hear-say communication with mgmt and their reps...and the subsequent spin/hopefulness of that info
NOW that many of the "facts" are disclosed in the filing, regardless of the confirmation of many less than favorable items from past specOlations...its still "all good" according to long term holders, many/most from substantially higher SP
regardless, only ONE thing really matters:
...and so many of the "promises" and expectations mysteriously fall to the wayside
there is no denying that in just about ANY stock the only thing that one can expect/depend is that things wont go swimingly along to "plans"
and in the grander scheme of things OS is still relatively low...but how any realistic/objective individual cant be disappointed with where this "gem" is trading seems more than a little "odd" to me
and while trying to remain optimistic is great, denying/ignoring that all is NOT well [or as some projected] just doesnt seem completely truthful/honest
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MESP!;)
re: "...i spoke with sandy winnick today..."
excerpts from newly created RB alias "charting god" post
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BKMP&read=14559
"...i also asked him about the 20% of tfn
bkmp owns 20% of black out comm who owns tfn
bkmp gets 20% of the profits black out comm produces..."
once again, and as i have been stating, it appears BKMP owns 0 of TFN...as "confirmed" by SW[?]
"...20% profits of BOC..."???
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?, lol
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"...cd holder has a set dollar amount of 2.2m dollars..."
ahh, arent set $ amt CD's most likely floorless convertibles with the potential of unlimited # of share conversion?
[ala recent GZFX/golden gate example]
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perhaps one of the best lines/excuses ive heard in some time:
"...also given the fact he knows but cant verify the cd,s sales its in his and the companies best interest to wait on the u.s. carrier news untill that debt is cleared..."
rotf!, classic...one for the books
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regardless of where SP may go, imo BKMP will never realize any of the potential revenues/profits of TFN
and as always is the case with these "gems", each time a promoted/pumped "myth" is dispelled, focus shifts to some other area...until that too falls to the wayside...until ultimately nothing is left, and the longs quietly fade into the sunset
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
btw, good morning all
...later
re: "...freebies such as yourself..."???
this has nothing to do with "sucking it up or paying up"
ive been grandfathered since sept 2000
that was revoked without cause recently due to admin not being able to find any other legitimate way of "gagging" me
no jail
no valid TOS violations
suddenly simply stripped of a "status" covered by admin's own long standing policy
are you aware of ANY other similar case of this occurring?
and others [regardless of their "status"] are treated not a little differently, but completely different...and that has been confirmed adamantly by admin PMs
one would need to know and understand the history of whats been transpiring before being able to comment
its not as simple as you make it out to be
[note: this is my last allowable post for the day]
good job by both of you...
...of completely missing the point
and by admin for continuing to make up rules as they go along...and applying them in a selective fashion