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Anyone who thinks that the defendants have done all they can to fight off vplm, rather than they simply have to defend themselves or lose by default.........
.........and........think that they know they will eventually have to pay vplm...... Well, I hate to tell you but that clearly doesn't hold water....
For that to be true, you would also have to believe that the longer they hold out, the less it's going to cost them. And/or that they still believe, even after over 10 yrs of vplm having ZERO PROBLEM raising the money to pay for everything, that somehow they won't continue to have that ability........which makes zero sense.
So which one is it? You think vplm can no longer raise cash (and don't have any in the bank) or you think the longer they hold out, the less they will have to pay......or both, lol?
Those are important and critical questions........and I BET no one even tries to answer... After all, how can that be answered adequately?
Another thing.......
If you were initially pro vplm, as I was, and then somehow discovered things about the company to change your mind and were very convincing, would you not come here and tell them? Of course you would, at least most would. I know, I know......but you say you wouldnt stick around.. you would sell and move on. Lolol. Not so fast. Everyone always has the quick answer w/o thinking it thru. 1st of all, if your avg price point is far above what the stock is then selling for and you have seen for a long time that there are lots of good sized price swings, then you'd be a fool to just sell and book. You'd wait for a better exit. And as to continuing to participate on this board, there are numerous reasons ppl do so. I won't get into all of them but a couple are that people obviously use this board as a social media vehicle, aside from its purpose as a stock discussion place. That's just the way it is. Ppl like to talk online. Some more than others. Some thrive on it. It becomes addictive. Undeniable. I'll admit to it. As well, I get highly entertained here by the goings on. Those 2 reasons alone are enough to hang. And those who tell ppl to get out of here and leave are just silly non thinkers, as of course you can't make ppl go away because you wave your hand, lol. You have no power to control ppl to stay or go, so such foolery is only for your own self serving satisfaction. You don't actually affect anyone. Just attempted bullying is all that is. Getting back to what I know are those chomping at the bit to say (for the thousandth time) well, you had ample opportunity to sell when the big spikes came and then get out.... That's been said ad nauseum. Doesn't hold water tho. When I got in, price was low. Then as the hype proliferated, I was hooked and I kept on buying, buying, buying. And the price kept rising, rising, rising til my pricepoint was way higher than my entry point and I skipped further and further underwater, on paper. Then, at some point in time, the vplm facade began to crack for me and I began to realize it was all way to shadowy and way too many holes appeared. After more time went by, constantly listening to the drone of the so called "true longs", someone got thru to me that the way out of that revolting development was to learn how to day trade. I found it pretty easy because at the time, there were lots of good waves still happening. And before long I was gaining back my losses. When the 45 cent thing came I was preoccupied with serious family issues and missed the real hi points but I did catch some of the lower numbers and wound up recouping all and well into profit land. So the forever fools who attempt to say I woulda/coulda/shoulda this and woulda/coulda/shoulda that but failed to, are clueless liars who make up stories to the contrary and then post that I said this and that which I didn't. The big truth of the matter is that when you tell the truth there's no need to make stuff up or change your story's, etc. But she challenged to show the proof to support their lies by posting actual quotes or actual past posts, they either shut up or in some rare cases, post a copy and it shows them to be wrong which is hilarious but they do it anyway and then their followers post in agreement not even knowing what they're agreeing with. That's what I mean by great entertainment. I have nothing to prove and no need to. I speak the truth and always have supporting material or access to it.
I don't put ppl down for believing in vplm or the Emu. They're entitled to believe what they will. But the funny part is when they think they have that right exclusively and other opinions that differ deserve zero respect. I don't really require their acceptance so it is amusing to hear them go thru their motions. They are what keeps me here more than anything because it's actually very cool to be right or truthful while knowing they are wrong or making shit up. The more they do so, the more entertaining it is and the more I am apt to respond. Except in the cases where they are rude, nasty, crude and vulgar. I realize they are that way cuz they have no real ammo but they still are kind of depressing as they choose to get more and more personally insulting.
And that brings up something I just was told about...which is really hilarious..
A few of those above described whose sole purpose is to be forever rude, if they are not taken out by the admins, then after awhile you tire of it so it becomes time to block or ignore or whatever you call it, so I did so to roughly about 10 peeps. Then their no longer there to even see the post headline. Good, case closed.......at least I thought so. Now come to find out that a few of them can still see my posts (which I didn't think they could) and loloolololo hahaha.....they are actually still replying to me with the same crap but I don't see it, thankfully, because I blocked or ignored. So I just found this out and after laughing my ass off hard, I can't wipe the smile off my face. I had no idea they were still replying and apparently, they don't seem to know they are blocked. For some reason I thought they got some kind of popup msg or something that lets them know I don't see their nasty crap anymore, because I had no way of knowing they were still posting their vitriol until I was finally made aware. This fact is very satisfying. Knock yourselves out.
Truly too funny...to the max
And so again, I ask the question, actually 2 questions,.that no one is ready, willing or able to answer.......... Because to answer it, blows your whole trip...I get that. But that doesn't excuse not answering, as it might reveal a truth or at least an alternative possibility. It's a theory born of critical thinking. There are no holes in it. Might seem so, but I have them covered. After all, can't describe a complete scenario, in every detail, that in reality,took near 15 yrs to put together and evolve, in one post. They already get longer than I want them to be. To dismiss out of hand and/or just call it crazy is nothing more than laziness. It's not only dots that all connect but it's not as tho OTC pennystocks (especially ones that avg around 2 cents for decades, lol) are generally on the up and up, are they? No, of course not. That's why the OTC and dirt cheap pennystocks with nothing but a story, have such a poor reputation. My theory is not because of that, but only in tandem with it and supported by it. It's not a wild off the wall story as all the dots connect and there are so many other facts of things that occurred during the time frame, that go hand in hand and fully support the story, such as for ex, the PR about the PR about the alleged "mandate" given by vplm to have "Southpark" (southbank) in Australia, sell the company because they had the best current prospect and then promise to updated us on that situation, never to hear another word about it. That's right. I don't forget these things. Go back to that time here and read it and see thats exactly what happened. And so so many other things on that sort of level that only begin to make sense when jumping fwd to the future (the now) where outcomes and answers have been added in to clear the picture. Like another example is the company announced way back when...that a deal was on the table and being worked out, with a fortune 500 company. Well, as it turned out, that was a big lie, perpetuated by a board member who apparently just made it up but vplm, without substantiating it, PRd it. A long time passes before the CEO, (I believe Sawyer) admitted it was not true whatsoever. There are so many of these stories that the sun and total can easily form a basis for a story other than what vplm would have you believe.
Oops, forgot to pose the questions..
1) if you had the cash, would you buy vplm?
2) if you had the cash and we're a major voip service provider, would you have bought, licensed or settled some time ago when the cost would have been much less to do so, or would you just leave it sit there in the middle of the road for any of your competitors to snatch up at any time?
I wonder why the Emu tried to claim he wrote the Avatar screenplay?
He'd have been much better off trying to sue the writer of "The Wolf of Wall St." with Leonardo DiCaprio. Far more believable.
jezsayin
Duh²....... Hahaha......of course a legit company that has nothing to sell (yeah, right... )I mean even virnetx made money from licensing) but ok, patent plays.....must dilute to get from point A to point B (lolololol not for 10 yrs or more), any stupe can figure that out.....but one of the plethora of missed or uncomprehended points) is that vplm, in it's very well thought out and sophisticated scheme, USED and USES that as an excuse that is oh so easily swallowed, while they conjured a far better use for the massive dilution.
youcancutthenaivetewithaknife
Damn good reason why vplm teased and outright lied to shareholders and prospective shareholders via their felonious PRs, between 2011 and 2013 (possibly small parts of 2010 and 2014 also) by promising in no uncertain terms, to fold the newly aquired technology into their rented, so called voip services platform, elevating it to king of the hill status, and also to immediately begin collecting up to hundreds of millions of dollars in royalties and the blatant lie about the major interest by both fortune 500 & S & P 500 companies. They obviously did this to garner as quickly as possible, as many as possible new shareholders and share sales...........AND..........once they accomplished that set of feats, they abruptly, without warning or shareholder knowledge or shareholder input........TRASHED THE ENTIRE PLAN ON A DIME AND TRANSFORMED INTO WHAT HAS ALWAYS APPEARED TO BE THE POSTER CHILD OF PATENT TROLLS........but that was just a ruse or maybe just a mistaken identity......BECAUSE........the real deal had most likely been cooked up ahead of time by the Emu and Chang, in my opinion and most likely secretly from the others, to take all that shares sold money and perhaps major loans from RK to launch the REAL scheme......a very sophisticated setup that provided years and years of the personal insider ATM and the selling of FIAT shares for huge profits for the next 10 yrs while hiding behind the STORY of the son called FOUNDATIONAL patents and later child and ancillary patents, which has always been THE EMINENCE FRONT, that so many bought book, line and sinker. And because of the setup, they have NEVER had the slightest BUT PREDICTED problem of raising all the cash they needed to keep the whole thing looking real and above board. The whole idea of the massive dilution was bullshitted as NECESSARY to finance the costs associated with the legal fight against all the many many alleged infringers. And we were told by emu that every voip service provider on the planet is an infringer. The reality is many efforts mostly unseen, to prolong the status quo indefinitely and NOT to go thru the alleged process of infringement trials which is the goal they want you to believe. But via what can be done with money......is why what has happened for 10 yrs is one monkey wrench after another and I expect many more to come. All the dots connect for me anyway, because of the fact such a unprecedented hugely valuable and powerful set of technology, IF REAL AND ALL THEYVE BEEN CRACKED UP TO BE...... WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YRS BE ALLOWED TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOR ANY NUMBER OF BIG DOGS OR MEGA RICH INVESTORS TO BE ALLOWED TO JUST SCOOP IT UP ANY TIME THEY WANTED AND THEN COLLECTED HUGE PROFITS FOR Years TO COME. LIFE DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.
I guess the alleged infringers.........ALL OF THEM like the Borg, all with the same thoughts and shared mentality...........all decided at the same time that it made much more sense to wait until the last moment, when they are forced to settle, and when the cost of said settlement will be waaaaay higher than had they settled long ago IF THEY KNEW THEY STOLE THE TECH AND ARE INFRINGING..... REPEAT....IF. YEAH..... THAT'S THE TICKET...... WE'LL WAIT UNTIL IT COSTS Our SHAREHOLDERS MUCH MUCH MORE........WHY? EASY, CUZ ITS THE FIDUCIARY WAY TO ROLL, RIGHT?
too funny and too phony
There's a reason for everything. Guess the reason why vplm never published any details of the alleged global nodal testing... Oh, I know, I know...some will try to say they did...but ask them to produce the beef....where's the beef? And no one cares because they were hypnotized by chang's PRs so you don't ask questions you just accept.....cool.
just sayin...trust but verify
And now.......
for the rest of the story....
I are smarter than a 5th grader... And I can core a apple...
Here is how the patents work:
To say "can be" is incorrect. All patents are valid so it's "are" not "can be". There is no such thing as can be patents.
Furthermore, by virtue of the FACT FACT FACT that they were created near 20 yrs ago and cannot be licensed, settled on, or sold, they have zero value by default. Value means that something can be sold. Vplm patents cannot. So they have no value. Peeps WISH they had value. Peeps HOPE they have value. Peeps SWEAR they have value and peeps ASSIGN value to them..........but..........sadly.........they have no value.......... EXCEPT as a teaser to entice peeps to buy shares...........which is what vplm really is after stripping away all the peels. An e-gip-shun Emu, with a laptop, sitting in a pizza booth, and claiming to be the LEADER OF THE INDUSTRY after failing to even get past a single day in his lawsuit claiming he wrote Avatar...After running the Granville Hotel into the ground and bankruptcy after doing stuff like hiring reported bro pimp to run nightclub (shows mngmt skills). And after apparently failed operas and children's books. After failing to keep DIGIFONICA alive. After failing to keep a single board member on board except for that lying SOB, Chang. And then progressing to 10 years complete failure to license, partner, settle, or sell the company AFTER making the conscious decision to turn the company into the poster child of patent trolls, instead of the promised integration with the alleged vplm voip service platform.......which was also a joke.......Then, it took him years to even send letters of infringement to the companies he claims are infringing, except they weren't even bona fide infringement letters. They were love letters which suggested to the CEOs that "maybe they might be infringing" so the CEOs all told vplm to go pound salt. Which means the entire debacle was a share selling, share printing, personal ATM for him and cabal. Now if makes sense.
PATENT VALIDITY HAS ZERO TO DO WITH VALUE
PATENT VALIDITY HAS ZERO TO DO WITH EFFICACY (for those who identify with "true long", that means effectiveness)
PATENT VALIDITY HAS ZERO TO DO WITH NECESSITY (for those who like the phrase "patience is a virtue", that means no one needs them)
PATENT VALIDITY HAS ZERO TO DO WITH CURRENT COMPATABILITY (for those who think vplm is in its best position ever, that means these core patents were written close to 20 yrs ago and is likely to have compatibility with moderns systems)
Have I ever mentioned that no one in the world has ever wanted these patents, except vplm and the 1st thing they did with them was put them up for sale, lololol.
And no one wants them for the past 12 yrs, even tho vplm claims they are worth tens to hundreds of billions. How ironic! Prolly couldn't give them away
ALL PATENTS ARE VALID
DUH
ALL PATENTS ARE VALID
DUH
ALL PATENTS ARE VALID
DUH
ALL PATENTS ARE VALID
DUH DUH DUH DUH DOH DOH DOH DUH DUH DUH DOH DOH
I almost forgot. You were indeed right about one thing and one thing only in your fantasy post. And that is yes, you're right that I win either way this goes. I've already said that here before. If I'm right and vplm never works out, Im still in the black. And if something happens to bring it to 50 cents and I sell my shares, cake.
But that's not some impossible thing. Couldn't be any simpler. If you make a profit and lock that profit in by not buying any more, then you are ahead regardless of what the company does thereafter. The idea that THAT is somehow not believable reflects wrong thinking.
I'll tell you what IS impossible though.....
It's impossible for you to say anything fwd that could be correct thus I won't waste any more time on you. Find your next victim. I'm done with those who can't accept the truth.
"Do you really think anyone listens to you..."
* Yes, you!. You've listened to EVERY word I've said so far. And you're likely to continue to...
Tata
Haha.....good ol discovery..... vplm's already been there...... how'd that work out, compared to what the knuckleheads......damn that predictive..... know-it-alls said would happen? Hahaha..... I remember. They ignorantly said that the defendants would never allow the trials to get to discovery........(yup, that's exactly what they said......it's right here in the record...look it up if you have that functionality) because they would be shaking in their boots at the prospect of giving up their secrets, ie, source codes. But of course, they were mistaken because they didn't know the law pertaining to that. Something didn't sound right to me so I looked into it and learned what the law is and I posted it here. No one challenged it be wise it wasnt challengeable material. Discovery process took place and no such thing took place as usual. What I mean by "as usual" is this: if one were to go way back, the further the better (I've recommended numerous times but they never do cuz they're too lazy and see it as too daunting a task), what they find is along the way, almost every single thing that the egg spurts thought was going to occur, NEVER DID and they had to learn-by-number, ie, they had to follow the events that actually occurred DESPITE them and then, lololol, acted as if they knew it all along.......bwa haha.....oh it's been sooooo entertaining. One of the bestest (yeah, bestest) instances of this was when the 1st inter partes reviews was filed against vplm. No one had a clue in the slightest what that even was or that the PTAB even existed (I think the ptab had been around for a couple few yrs by then if I recall right). Eventually, a few paralegals and a lawyer or 2 or someone that consulted with patent lawyers showed up on the board to explain some things. It was the same story with numerous court rulings. And there's nothing wrong with shareholders and msg board goers to not know everything about what was happening legally, but was fun to watch them act like they knew all along.
Anyway, come Tues another discovery phase and there will be no promised settlements. Hell, there's not even any settlement when vplm ANNOUNCES THERE'S A SETTLEMENT! Hardee har har har.... hahaha heheh.....oh man.....too funny!
Vplm.....fake settlements......fake PRs......fake offers on the table.......fake 911 attributes.....fake test results (non existent).....fake s&p and fortune 500 company interest.....fake Dr Amelio offer (they blew their own cover lololololol)......fake Aussie mandate.......fake promises to never sell shares........fake promises to fold the technology into their fake voip service providing........fake infringement letters (more like love letters).....fake promises that up to hundreds of millions of dollars in royalties were forthwith.......like Elaine said: FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE
Om who ski? You sound like that felisha now.....ha
I thought about it but I don't know what to think about ....
Sounds like some W & S escapade on what's that.....howe st
Better get those yacht dealers on speeddial. Discovery channel on Tuesday....
or
another monkey wrench?
The smarties, in the past, several of them, have said discovery is the trigger for the defendants to say uncle and settle cuz they don't wanna give up their secrets........which just happens to be total bullshit and I provided that official documented US law to show it was misinformed bullshit, about I don't know......how long ago did I lost that here? Had to be about 2 or 3 yrs ago (but of course I never post facts, lol). And so as much as I hope I'm wrong (cuz another dismissed case would be friggin devastating, no?) I gonna go outnon a limb (about an inch and a half) and predict zip, nada, nuttin will come of it......as USUAL! Because underneath it all, this is not the patent play the smarties think it is, it's the supreme example of throw shit on the wall and see if anything sticks. Slice the baloney so thin no one buys. Cry wolf so many times no one pays any attention anymore. Underneath it's a personal ATM for the great Emu and his selling out crazed other half.
That is all
What's all that about?
Oh boy...after 3 posts today announcing the new court proceeding for discovery, what happens.......the price keeps on dropping until the last minutes and then it still doesn't go green and winds up with no gain on the day, something I just reported hours earlier, or maybe it was only minutes, when I said that news doesn't do anything anymore...
So ok, I guess the delayed reaction will come Tuesday and the pps will pop, right? Can't wait...holding breath. Hoping for that 50 cents... Oh wait, I just realized.... Tues will be the 5th and it's discovery so that means the infringed will, according to so many here in the past, finally give in and settle! Yay! Oh boy! Settlement on Tues. Hallelujah! Here comes da judge, here comes da judge......here comes my 50 cents! I can take it or leave it.
Sad, things have to be repeated over and over for you to get it, but never do anyway. I really can't laff at someone with that personal circumstance.....but as I explained, I can never lose money on vplm because I locked in my being far into the black, years ago, by deciding to never buy anymore shares and stuck to it. So I could gain more anytime the price goes over what turned out to be my avg, if I decided to sell at that point, but since I've decided to only sell if it reaches 50 cents, that's unlikely to ever happen....but can never be at a loss. I'm locked into the black and as aside note, that decision turned out to be a good one (not to buy anymore).
Duh...you don't even understand the meaning of patent validity. FYI (not that you'll comprehend or retain) ALL patents ARE VALID. I guess you missed that little tidbit that has been explained about 50x here. Repeat: ALL PATENTS ARE VALID.
And.......
He doesn't need to prove no infringement. It doesn't work that way. Vplm has to prove infringement, something they haven't been able to do in 10 yrs of trying, ha!
thisiswhyicutthecablelol
What is wrong with you? Are you content on showing everyone that you can't even read.........OR.........you can read just fine but choose to ignore what you were told. That's almost, keyword almost, funny, but doesn't quite get there. Ok, if you CHOOSE to play the fool........then I'll repeat what I just told you. I clearly explained that after I got in cheap (at 2 cents.....I didnt note that part in my post to you but I've revealed it many times in the past), then I kept on buying and buying and buying til I couldn't afford anymore as I recall, and at the same time, that's when the price kept moving up and then boom, it started falling falling falling until I was way underwater on paper. I started to listen to the common sense of some who didn't keep playing the "true longs" bullshit song and began to day trade. DID YOU CONVENIENTLY MISS THAT PART? and was able to recoup ALL LOSSES AND CONTINUE TO A GOOD PROFIT.
The fact that you could not have realistically MISSED that part, and purposely manipulated what I told you into the exact opposite of what the end result was for me...... lololololololol........means you just clearly put your foot in your mouth, revealing your highly highly disingenuous post. Thankyou for showing you cards.
wow
Great and I guess that's why even with the last minutes pump/buys/whatever you want to call it, resulted in zero gain for the day, and THAT....only because of the last minutes buys, otherwise the whole day was a downer. That IS PERFECTLY IN LINE with my take that "the boy who cried wolf syndrome" is the current vplm waveguide and as I began predicting quite some time ago, it now requires more than hell and hi water to move vplm up significantly. By the way, it's not my fault that I'm right. It's vplm's fault........and........they love it. And peeps wanna know why each and every director and officer winds up bailing.
Haha....ppl complain about vplm lack of transparency.......ummm......I find them as transparent as glass.
Fits like a glove.....not just any glove.....but a latex.
This is THE VPLM WAY!
The OTC is the perfect breeding ground for this and it also kinda shows you the worth of the sec.
Just so you don't think I shorted you, going against my own advice, by only reading your 1st paragraph b4 I replied.....I'm easily provoked to comment once I see something I feel worthy. But after, I did read the rest of your post and as I figured, it was just an extension of the 1st paragraph.
Good luck.......if there is such a thing
I sense the "pump machine" is gearing up again and I'm really anxious to see if it has the ability anymore to have much effect. I don't think so but we'll see.
I only read your 1st paragraph. Let me explain to you why you are 100% wrong. Not that I expect it to make a difference with someone who is so myopic, but just so your ears at least hear the truth (as if it hasn't been explained enough times b4).
1st off, your "if you really believed that" is fatally flawed b4 you're even out of the gate. Why? Simply because I DO believe every word I've ever said here. I may be wrong about certain things but I don't lie or bullshit or make things up. It's all honest and well thought out. Therefore, that means that your character judgement it also fatally flawed because your conclusion is as wrong as can be. Like I said, I don't expect that to change your mind and I'm sure it won't but......since it's the truth.....the suggestion would be for you to rethink it.
Obviously you aren't open minded enough to come up with any other reason why me or any other negative on vplm would be here still. Not much imagination, huh? It's quite simple. I'm a long term shareholder......I lost a bunch here yrs ago then wised up and figured out how to day trade and not only recoup all the on paper losses but also make a handsome profit and I have things to show for it too. And I can't remember anymore but I either bought a bunch back cheap or I think I just had a lot left over. And then, I made a vow to never buy anymore vplm stock again once I felt I knew the true nature of this circus. And I have stuck to that vow to this day but I still am a long shareholder and I also sort of set a price in my mind that I would wait so sell for, that being 50 cents, otherwise it can be wallpaper because I'm locked into the black forever.
But guess what? Even tho above is the simple answer why I'm here, it's not really the reason or let's say it's only a small part. Apparently you've never even considered that there's other possible reasons that ppl hang here, shareholders or not.... There are trolls obviously that just like to hang out and express their often pathetic and/or sophmoric thoughts and/or those that need a place to bully ppl. I'm not in those categories, like it or not. And by the way, they have every right to be here as much as anyone else, as long as they stay within the rules which many don't or can't.
Also, I have never thought of my presence here as a "saving the world" concept or however it was that you put it. I'll admit that I don't say what I say just to hear myself talk or just to be heard without having any impact. I've learned alot and I know a lot and I've shared tons and tons of legitimate and documented DD, whether you know it or not. And also my ideas, theories and reached conclusions for which I've ALWAYS provided at least some kind of support and backup. I don't require you or anyone else to believe but just to read and think. I'm not stupid or uneducated so my thoughts deserve at least consideration. I've offered great detail on ea and every idea or conclusion. Right or wrong, that's what this forum exists for, NOT, as some seem to think, a place for pollyanna and cheerleading for vplm or it's associates. One person,.I thnk it was yesterday had the thoughtfulness, amongst all this childish and downright meanness, to step up and say he respects all peeps opinions regardless of which side of the vplm aisle and I believe him.
I hope that opens your eyes a little, but not very confident. And if your intention, after reading, is to throw more shade, save your fingers, because you would only further cement your incorrectness.
I would be as happy as anyone else if I was completely or even partially wrong about what vplm really is, and if the proverbial ship came in bringing me tons of money......but I have mentally written that possibility off years ago.
This msg board is very much used as a social media site. And that's fine. Freedom of speech is one of the best attributes we have. No one has to or is forced to listen. There are various controls in place. And peeps would do well to expend more energy on their feelings about the company and about how they carry themselves than the constant bitching, hollering and combining about others.
Finally, the entertainment value alone, is worth the price of admission.
May the price get right for you........or.......may the farce be with you.
There are no infringers...
Hard to believe you could say and believe these things......at this stage of the game...
For ex: "we all need to be patient"......lol, I honestly didn't think anyone was still willing and able to use that phrase anymore without being too embarrassed. I mean COME ON..... how many freakin yrs can such an ultra over used thing make any sense? Company been around for 23 yrs but if you only want to count the VOIP involvement yrs, well guess what?.......my deep research has shown me that the voice over internet protocol involvement goes almost back to the beginning and I have documentation of same. Most ppl think vplm only got involved in voip 10 or 12 yrs ago. Not so. That being said, let's say you only want to count this patent play era, in your "must have patience" mentality. Ok, fair enough. So that began at least 12 to 13 yrs ago, ie, 2011 or maybe 2010. Most likely, the collaborations between vplm and Digi began even before then as the emu has personally stated that they both go way back as friends. But I'll go with let's say 12 or 13 yrs. If you're trying to convince me that 12 or 23 yrs is not enough time to get there, well then please tell me if another patent play.........hang on now, not just ANY patent play.....but one that has professed from the git, to having the absolute basis and foundational patents necessary to the use and proliferation of voip itself, which conversely, has done quite well on its own for may yrs regardless of vplm and long before vplm. As well, they claim directly and indirectly to be worth many tens of billions of dollars. That being the case, don't give any examples of some obscure patent play that doesn't claim to have such a far reaching importance. Don't forget hey have also stated that any and all service providers of voip, worldwide, ARE INFRINGERS....... AUTOMATIC! That's right, the emu has stated same. So give me an example of any patent play ever, that even comes close to such claims.......and could not make a dime or sell a licence or get a partnership or get a settlement or sell the company FOR 12 YRS OF ALLEGEDLY TRYING!
I would love to hear of such a company. I don't think it exists.
The underlying and overarching TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS........
NO COMPANY IN HISTORY OR EVER WILL BE.........WOULD ALLOW SUCH ALMOST PRICELESS AND POWER EMBEDDED (the top worldwide communication vehicle) TREASURE CHEST TO SIT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, UNBOUGHT, UNLICENCED, UNSETTLED.........FOR ALL THIS TIME AAAAAAND ALLOW ANY OF THEIR COMPETITORS TO STEP UP AND GET FROGGY AND PULL THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THEM BY PURCHASING VOLM. THAT IS 1000% AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, BUSINESS NATURE AND BASIC SIMPLE COMMON SENSE. IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE ON ANY SCALE WORTH MENTIONING AND NEVER WILL. THERE ARE MANY MANY VOIP SERVICE PROVIDERS OUT THERE, MANY MORE THAN THE MERE 60 MENTIONED BY NAME BY VPLM (and almost immediately those names were removed from their website long ago) AND THEY CAN'T ALL BE CROOKS WHO STOLE VPLM PATENTS AND THEY CANT ALL BE THST DUMB AS TOO LEAVE VPLM SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND LOSE OUT ON SLL THAT FUTURE WEALTH AND POWER.
yes, that's a period at the end. and above IS critical thinking.
Lost around 60% in last 2 mos. Rather than "best position ever", this is it's most comfortable position in the 2 cent range, over a 20 yr+ time period.
I wonder if you have any idea how many times those exact words ("next week, next month", so forth and so on) have been repeated here? Not rhetorically, but LITERALLY!!
I don't think there's anything left here to drive any such runs of any major significance. The force of vplm gravity is just too strong. Possible but unlikely at this point. Here lives the dilution solution.
Me too.. I've wondered are they accidentally at the wrong msg board.....or perhaps the wrong site altogether....or do you need a decoder ring or what?
Vplm 1st charted around 19 yrs ago in 2004. It opened at about a dime and almost immediately went to near 40.cents, then slid to the bottom where it normally dwells. Stayed near the bottom for a out 10 yrs cuz it has nothing. 2nd spike was around 2014 spiked to around 35 cent for a minute then the usual continuous slide back to the bottom. 3rd spike on speculation came around 2017 to 45 cent then immed begun the regular slide, for 5 yrs back to bottom feeding until nickel and diming it for a few moments in 2023 and the inevitable slip back to the bottom area where it now lanquishes for long time, cuz it's all a mirage.$62 million market cap is an utter silly joke. Yeah, right...hahaha. They tell the naive that deals are made and settlements are done. The leader with no followers (except the cult followers) and wifey seem to be sucking out the last drops of blood. So keep donating to the Mr and Mrs Dracula fund.
After 23 yrs, stuck on 2.5 cents. Pitiful. I know, I know, it's worth kabilions.
Standby for the trial of the monkey wrenches...
What do you mean "you can't comment"? You just did...
Your welcome...
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Hat tipped for "respecting other people's opinions whether you agree with them or not". A fine attribute, the way it ought to be and unfortunately, far far too uncommon here. It reveals a higher evolution having been reached by whatever means...probably better upbringing. The ability to maintain it in this hostile environment, is yet more commendable. Many here would do well to start practicing the same.
Which leads me to say.............
Vplm still sux canal water for retails
When the Emu and rest of crew were found guilty of unjust personal enrichment and breach of FIDUCIARY duty, by a jury of their peers, I certainly didn't expect them to totally ignore it and continue for months and years to continue on that same path.........and yet that's exactly what they have done and continue to do, apparently selling out as fast as they can resulting in the continuously degraded value of shares, shares that are already embarrassingly low in value after 23 yrs.
No 8k no 10Q yet some still believe there's an actual 4 mos old settlement with Amazon. Pitiful and sad. Cult followers. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Keep thinking emu, Babs, Chang and INya are good guys. They are the modern James gang....and I don't mean these guys..