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Boxsterfan...let those angry birds finally die! We will be just fine.
OK this is the proceedings at the USPTO
My question to Alan or Boxsterfan is there a way to know the USPTO schedule date in this proceedings?
PR2021-00555 Notice: notice of receipt of POP request
https://developer.uspto.gov/ptab-web/#/search/documents?proceedingNumber=IPR2021-00555
We know what Dr. Dent was able to do with the birth of NeoGenomic Corporation and that here has been in the medical arena all his life. With the professional experience that he has and our CFO plus Directors still actively working within NEO it will be interesting in the years to come. I recall not having the free funds to invest in NEO when she was around $1.25 a share and when I checked out management back then I just knew NEO would make the jump to Nasdaq as it even looked like a professional company back then. So now we have HLYK and that same basic dream with Dr. Dent to lead us. I found it interesting for Dent to say that HLYK has the ability to surpass NEO. Now that was shocking when considering TDOC so I really thought what in the world don't I know? It appears clear that TDOC and many others are far beyond us and I doubt anyone here would doubt this so what is it that I;m missing? I recall when some of these other companies came out with things such as NETFLIX and way back Google and Amazon that I didn't understand the depth of what could become of these corporations or just didn't have the money to invest or as usual timing sucked.
So to finally make this short as it is hard enough to read what I type we have no clue on what is really developing in Dr. Dent's mind but rest assure it will probably surpass TDOC which is actually hard to believe but if we are developing technology for the future it will be huge in time. Sure we would hate to see this reverse and we have no control over that but never forget who is running this corporation and we all know they are professional and well respected worldwide. You can't say that but for a few corporations and the leaders. We have no clue yet what and how the technologies will mesh together but I won't miss this for the world. I missed NEO and knew damn well she was going to fly. Now will HLYK? I do not want to take a chance and miss out. It is bad enough when I buy and sell this strictly to gain more shares but number of HLYK cards you and I hold are what matters. All the BS talk about shorting is no different then us who want this stock to climb high and know that shorting is simply the checks and balances of trading, without that it would get out of hand - seriously.
The ignore feature is important or just don't reply as I'm sure none of us want the thread trashed but that is generally what happens when we give that other poster something to type about. Generally speaking if one talks to themselves they just won't type much in these threads, simply said and respected.
Shiloh...you just gotta shake your head?
Too many twists right now but know this was my main investment. It might be worth you checking out their technology that is if you are looking into the future and this is able to climb back out of the hole that it is in. Now looking for a stock bounce involving this one I just don't see that. Do study this for a future investment. You might try look at HLYK as I have more involved in that and expect that to pop within the next 3 months.
Come on Jack, both companies behind this in the Cayman Islands are in Court restoration.
With all that has happen with Exicure recently yes the stock price looks good but feel since 50% cut back in staff along our CEO being pushed out doesn't sound good enough for me to average down. Maybe if we kiss .10 which is really possible I might buy enough to average down but really am reluctant to have anymore money wasting away and doing nothing. I don't believe it to be possible for any release of product guideline for any Pharmaceutical in 2022 and with this cut back some of these players are going to think twice about trusting us with their money. This all sucks as there was no reason for all this crap to have happen. Now when I bought in at $1.33 the stock price only fell due to pandemic so it was unreal to pick this up at that share level now I can see our OS is going to suffer plus the SEC will be knocking on our door in early 2022 with the threat kicking us off the Nasdaq so when that happens the OTC will eat us for lunch and .10 will be an easy target. Now these are just my thoughts but know if she drops that low or lower I will most likely push a few more dollars into this but again I just don't see 2022 with anything that can be developed for Pharmaceuticals to mass produce. I'm not sure how to view our patents anymore especially involving Northwest University.
I will say what can instantly save this is if "Chad Mirkin" came back on board and if we could get him to be our CEO I would borrow money ASAP to buy share now but he left us dude to his teachings at the University. Even if Chad came back as Chairman we would have an existing problem with Tim Walbert. I believe Douglas Feltner is leaving and if so that sucks too. David A. Giljohann was our CEO and inventor who worked with and under Chad Mirkin at the University. I don't know if Giljohann knew what was going on or he is just resigning since the buck should stock with the CEO but losing him is like cutting part of your heart out. Yes "Chad Mirkin" is our answer but you can't blame him if he doesn't come back like how do you split a man in half when you love both worlds yet it takes everything within to handle tasks at the University and besides he probably may not want to step back into XCUR in any way dur to the BS circumstances that played out recently within Exicure.
If you stop walking into his hands he won't continue to post, simply said.
gdog...I believe he is using the 10-K filings starting with 2019 onward referencing issued/outstanding shares.
I bought well over a year ago (maybe even two years ago) when we were $1.33 over a year ago. We went to $3.25 or so. Not sure what you know about this company but the potential was just massive. Our drug delivery system was our key product. Now looking at this as just another stock play and not so much long term any more. Our potential has been whacked from within the company and that is not a comfortable feeling. There was no reason for them to derail the records. It was bad enough over a year ago basically losing Chad Mirkin but now our CEO Giljohann plus we have our newly CFO who now as our CEO? All this sucks. You watch someone within H.C. Wainwright will most likely be coming on board. Anyways....with the shake up and losing 50% of our work force, having to paying that lease doesn't sit well. No doubt the OS shares are going to be diluted shortly. This company has a long wait before any real products.
Damn....now we will be played like an OTC Y-o Y-o.
kinda reminds me of the ansiart days...anyways yes HDC will be on the throwing side....
Locwolf does not see this even going to .90 cents but even so look at the way this trades it isn't worth buying this stock. You can't sell it so you get get stuck holding it. You are better off selling 1k shares at a time and moving on to something worth trading. RM will do exactly as he always has. Since 1999 hasn't delivered anything but heartache to investors. RM has shares in these companies actually I believe 3 companies if you back track to the very beginning of this and with all that and having his so called millions (as you state) he can't even get a $50 dollar loan from a bank? Don't get me wrong he is such a likeable guy but he is just talk, a gifted tongue that is unlimited but his pocket book for his corporations are generally empty. Damn shame as it would be cool to see Roger finally become successful for his shareholders but since 1999 he hasn't shown that ability in the USA nor in Australia. As I have stated if I had any positive thought of him finally being successful I would invest again but have always lost out when buying into any of this dreams. He is all RM and just talk.
Perhaps you will stop with that so call $20 dollar target BS or perhaps you want me to post more like maybe all the court documents involving him and his son. Do spots change? If spots haven't changed since 1999 then why would they now. As for the Graphene IBOX that picture is from another corporation and that is a product. RM is only having Jason pick, axe and shovel...wheel barrel too and a big sledge hammer to try and break the quarts so that is about all the company seems to be able to do. I wonder if the big corporation left anything in those already worked mines for the May's.
ps...don't forget to take a jug or water out to the mine for Jason. I wonder who is feeding his fish at the house...Tina?
gdog...you will be fine regardless what share price you bought in at. I am in a cash limited position so I buy and sell this in order to increase my holdings. I was set to sell at $1.35 months ago but did not reach it. I have bought various stocks and have held them and watched them crash into the ground. My thinking is at least I am buying and selling instead of just watching this. That beats doing nothing. Somewhere along these lines I will take my costs and profit allowing the rest to ride and when I decide to buy and sell again it will be to gain shares. Nasdaq will be no different still buy and sell but it becomes a bit more difficult to make these decisions as price rises.
* if the investor isn't able to buy and sell these stocks they will most likely just watch their holdings and be on the dogs tail holding on where as they need to be near the front of the dog making the decisions instead of just getting what ever falls off the tail.
From $3.35 to .47 cents and come Monday we will get clobbered at least another 50%. This can't get much worse as I see things. Really bad and someone needs to go to jail for their BS. This company now is up against the very wall they created for themselves and none of us investors will be able to place trust in this company again. So now we are going to persists in stopping physical pain? seems like we are starting all over again and again heck, as far as stopping pain why not complete this 8-K with a damn bullet to the head that would stop some pain quickly instead of wasting all our funds. Yes someone needs to be locked up period. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't drop to around .10 cents and for us to pay the monies needed to lease that building with 50% reduction in staff...we will be hard pressed on every avenue for a long time but to even trust this company again I just don't think so. This truly sucks a big time and to think we thought the Russel exchange was bad!
Boxsterfan...I feel Judge Albright is giving both sides more time to hash out a settlement, we also have the holidays and work load facing the system. We all know from court documents that neither side wishes to pursue a trial and it would seem at this point that if a settlement is not announced soon that Judge Albright will refuse Intel's request to dismiss which throws this case right into trial which neither party wants.
It appears this case is far larger than many of us had thought and it seems strange that HDC has never had an actual product yet could be sitting on a $800k plus settlement yet where is that crunch line?
As for sealing the case from public view? I don't see that until after Judge Albright refuses dismissal. So since he hasn't made that known that tells me settlement actions in progress.
No doubt Alan must also be a spy for Putin....look, all any investor here needs to do is track his posts from when he posted on IHUB. Not just the HDC or Intel treads from the very beginning. Next it was "Big_Beef" who actually went to the Intel message thread and rang their door, as follows........ https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=147247695 < March 3, 2019
I guess I must keep posting this until in sinks in but how long will that take?
Having "Alan" and "Boxsterfan" is a plus to see interesting and business/legal messaging but some just can't see as clear as others.
I would not be surprised to see a reverse merger, merge with Nurx. Then of course that might require share restructuring? Anyone have any thoughts on this after viewing the potential. No doubt it seems mandatory to get our share price upwards into the dollar, buck and a half prior any merger or we will suffer in any dealings.
https://www.nurx.com/
Well, we have been below a dollar since November 16th...I gather delisting threat right around the corner. If that kisses then Exicure will have 90 days to become compliant or OTC here we come!
Alan... I actually thought that Dr. Evgeniou would have been asked about the "scikit"...as if maybe he knew who or was the person that may have uploaded the SVM-RFE Algorithm? Now of course I don't even register on the meter of much of this as you and others do but it was in my thoughts when I heard he was in France or from France.
Just for starters Ms. Gordon of Intel objected no less than 28 times during Dr. Theodoros Evgeniou, Ph.D Deposition. Intel had Dr. Evgeniou Ph.D in the country of France represent their best interest.
...actually I think he was working to help HDC and NOT Intel :)
...no doubt price of eggs are going up today and it is about time!
oU71764
I gather this weblink that King_Oil posted would be best look at
(Intel's - EX 2013 Transcript of Deposition of Theodoros Evgeniou, Ph.D )
Next check (Health Discovery's EX 2014 Declaration of Clayton Scott Ph.D.
https://developer.uspto.gov/ptab-web/#/search/documents?proceedingNumber=IPR2021-00554
I believe I have the .PDF files and could email them to you if needed.
As I have studied those documents it could not have played out any better for HDC then it did. Yes even with him trying to combined Kohavi, Boser and Hocking he repeatedly kept digging a deeper hole in the ground to bury Intel. It was like taking candy from a baby or perhaps Dr. Evgeniou was really working for HDC. I really think that Dr. Evgeniou sealed the case for HDC.
Clayton Scott is a master!
Spent most of the day reading documents and just completed Theodore Evqeniou's transcript and of course Clayton Scott's. It looks very positive for Health Discovery. I gather either Intel will settle or perhaps go for broke but doubt that we will lose.
At least we know these guys have much more experience than these other BS OTC's.
If one spends the time looking at all the past involving Dr. Dent within these many years of SEC filings it will display various things to the beholder that reads deep into all this. Now doing what Dent is doing with Medicare is very very hard to be successful in the end.
As for up-listing we will sometime but if if investors look close enough they will see the same up-listing dream in "2019".
Dr Dent will use whatever stock in this company he can for the best value and if he can't do that with the best value he will let the gate open to offset his hand/funds then between that and running the OS between upward between 380 to 380 million shares will then need to reverse this plain and simple. I'm sure the seasoned trader knows this already and will not stay or stay long for we get any upward pump simply as watching past trades and everything just dandee at Health Linked but I don't see it that way anymore.
Again read all the filings to enlighten on the pros and cons.
This is as different as night is to day than NeoGenomic Corporation plus they were on the cutting edge where industry needed them not like our company where we need the industry. No doubt NeoGenomic was a very special idea plus early on Doug came in and was CEO and still is. Dent had many shares as he was in on the ground floor so was able to control Neogenomic for his time. Dent is loaded with HLYK share too so he only has so much time (when it comes to investors) unless you are going to be here 6 plus years from now.
Dr Dent will slowly but actually has done pretty good if you back away and look at this but counting the positives are looking like a time to shake my head and wonder just how deep I want to go with this. I doubt we will dump down low enough for me to bit but I still think this investment is in the best hands compared to 90 percent of these stocks.
Just be careful and read stay as positive or take profits when one can. Like I said prior I sold and bought more twice now so it isn't like I bought and couldn't sell I did that way I haven't a problem watching this peg to $1.25 share price and wish I could have but didn't. That sucks I could have and did twice to to gain shares not pull profit but if I would not have sold I would have been pissed. Even if this dumps and they close up shop which that will not happen I was able to buy and sell so I'm OK with share price but I do think I'm now negative. To me the horsepower is in the number of shares you have. Why do you think Dr Dent can smile :)
The Nasdaq jump has to be done with the right funds and power behind it and we will need MM's that will create the market for us. We will get hammered on that exchange too and actually we got a taste .54 cent 2 million dollar taste of that or thereabouts.
I'm staying but won't be posting every week.
I haven't seen the latest Proactive so I will close and go find that and listen as it can't bite you that is the one that is trying to also feed our mouths well sort of?
Have a great day and there will always be tomorrow regardless if one wishes to smile or not today.
Boxsterfan...good for you it "looks like" Intel had to produce...
re: Actually, launching a lawsuit against the people in France is unnecessary. The onus was on Intel to look at what was in the open source software before using it for commercial purposes. Case closed.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=165643232
MBMoney, I hope you are doing well and will enjoy Thanksgiving with family and friends. I was surprised as you were to see the past spike in HDC's share price but more so now to see it holding in the teens. I do hope you were able to capitalize on that spike or thereabouts. You are sincerely missed in many of these message threads but of course I understand. Enjoy the season and holidays, Thank you...
As usual excellent post....we don't know if HDC tried to negotiate some type of royalty from Intel but I do recall you talking about HDC having no damages in the area of products since we never had any. I don't like that thinking especially if they used our patents (if). Maybe HDC would not jump on Intel as hard as they should have early on and look at the short comings we have. Yes jury trial heck the Judge normally would be practical where the jury would be more sympathetic especially over all the documentations that HDC did they appeared to look like Intel kicking us in the teeth and telling us to go pound sand and of course go stab ants with an Ice pick.
All this clearly sucks and as I see this HDC needs a win so this will be hyped upward. Secondly a win at trial that will be the next hyperoo and maybe save 20-40k shares for any payout regardless of one dollar of $600k at most. It doesn't matter what kind of money HDC Gains it has ran it's course and anyone who thinks differently hasn't been here for years nor understand what little is lift under the HDC hood.
Now I believe this is the last move that CEO McGovern will be able to do and the decision was out of principle not for any other reason but we are done regardless of any income at this point. We have far too much against us yet these kids in all these website are able to hype these stock upward. I hope I can move my mail box soon as far too many years here.
The next link gives a good indication on the doctor's accent and if his deposition is sort of long winded then that might help HDC but Intel would know this ahead of time so direct answers in a deposition would be better for Intel.
Alan...as you know I always talk right off my shoulders but with all that is happening, the depth of the patents and variable mixes no doubt way over my head.
I will throw out a few things which are probably already thought of by many others or rather maybe not important to even consider any legal or even technical aspects but first I think you made an exact point and important reference that went right over my head. The possibilities of a climax for Intel as it relates to (Dr. Evgeniou = France = Scikit = upload).
A list of thoughts...Intel's ACE in the whole or last hope?... As for Judge Albright? I still have not grasped totally how Judge Albright and the PTAB inter-workings work together or in harmony. I wonder If Judge Albright and his assistant are giving Intel more time due to the complexity of these patents or a weakness in knowledge and complexity on their end meaning giving Intel an additional presentation or rather disposition straight from Dr. Evgeniou. Therefore, what I am seeing is the possibility of the Federal court pressuring Judge Albright just enough to possibly balancing the dismissal on a razor blade edge to the point that acceptance either way will not be challenged later especially knowing HDC is about done anyways.
I also have some doubts due weaknesses in continuing patent applications over the years and believe 11/842934 might provide that and that Dr. Evgeniou might focus on that coupled with the Scikit upload data or will he just explain the difference. Did he upload the data himself? Did he come up with his own data involving part of the Scikit data? Would his deposition be simple answers from predetermined questions? I gather he will simply shed light on the data and his involvement knowledge and possibly explain similarities and differences.
I personally feel Intel is liable for some damages but not the billions some have in mind. I mean we had no products. When do damages start? When you notify the other company or when you file a cease and desist? Can HDC collect damages from our first communications with Intel or only since the filing date of lawsuit?
Alan...I don't know if you will even post here anymore since all the shown disrespect but Dr. Evgeniou has or will do a deposition for Intel and was wondering if you know much about him or how he would normally present in this case for Intel.
Boxsterfan...I have no clue and it seems to be too early to get that information but interesting.
I did listen to a few "You Tube" videos involving Dr. Evgeniou in discussions and if the deposition is presented by verbal record I would lean towards him bring confusion to this case. His French accent and the way he presents his studies leaves one with the typical dry sense of French humor.
At any I wonder if that deposition, word for word will be presented later for all of us to read? I really sense that Intel is really starting to get on the nerves of the USPTO I mean Intel appears to be telling the entire system of Judges are stupid in which the USPTO is being rubbed the wrong way.
Time will tell as always I mean we (as investors) can wait another year or so but can HDC. I would love to see the stock pop as it should with denying Intel but closing in on June 2022 just might be what all of us have been waiting to see. Just maybe Intel will sweat some nice cash for all of us to finally enjoy. With so much INET coverage as we have seen before we are probably set to run to .75 to upwards of $1.25 and either figure would be fine as I see things. Of course I would save 20-40k shares for the actual trial but that would be all. Money in your hand is the only thing that is real. I have watched $480k leave my hands thinking it will come back but it didn't so nothing is real until it can see it in my account(s).
..but Roger May has never given success to retail investors.
Why not give him a call and ask him what public traded company in the USA or Australia has lead to success for us retail investors.
The answer is the same not 1 company since 1999....so you wish to bet on RM involving this company? Now RM will win but not retail investors as this company will end up with several new names prior to the next start up he wishes to get into. He can't lose as he is holding the shares while retail investors hold the bag.
Again just ask RM what company has been successful for retail investor NOT insiders, insiders always win and you should already know that.
I'll be waiting for that answer until hell freezes over since I know and RM know the the answer.
So so smart ..............
I gather that this could be the hangnail? Posted by "BoomStick1776" Yahoo message board..........
https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2021/11/03/criticism-judge-albright-looms-large-tillis-letters-hirshfeld-chief-justice-roberts/id=139581/
Ou71764.......Boomstick1776 posted this on Yahoo.
Thought this would interest you. I hope all is well with you and are gearing up for the holidays.
Intel's IPR appeal filings and "obvious-to-try" arguments: Intel is arguing that HDVY's patent was "obvious-to-try" by a person of ordinary skill in the art (POSITA). In court rulings (KSR, 2007), obviousness is looked at in these ways:
1. If the invention a product of combining prior art elements according to known methods to yield predictable results the invention is obvious.
2. If the invention is created through a substitution of one known element for another to obtain predictable results the invention is obvious.
3. If the invention is achieved by using a known technique to improve a similar device in the same way the invention is obvious.
4. If the invention is created by applying a known improvement technique in a way that would yield predictable results the invention is obvious.
5. If the invention is achieved from choosing a finite number of identifiable, predictable solutions that have a reasonable expectation to succeed the invention is obvious.
6. If known work in one filed of endeavor prompts variations based on design incentives or market forces and the variations are predictable to one of skill in the art the invention is obvious.
While Intel's arguments might seem like they have HDVY, there are a few pieces of HDVY's patent that are very strong. One, it was obvious because it took the "research arena" years to come up with it. Two, SVM-RFE had the unexpected benefit of speed when performing the function against immense datasets. Three, SVM-RFE has the unexpected benefit of high accuracy when performing against immense datasets.
Therein lies the meat of SVM-RFE. While "expert testimony" of POSITA's from Intel may suggest that it was obvious to put the combination together, it was not. Previous POSITA's actually recommended against it because they thought it was too "computationally expensive" (ie. impractical). Little did they know...and thus it was not obvious.
Ride on!!
On a side note I was looking at past directors and feel McKenzie never knew which way was up!
Boxsterfan & Alan you have given shareholders excellent points of view so keep the post coming and don't pay any attention to the mice.
I am curious could the Federal Circuit be interfering already?
If not then I feel a deal is in the process between the two corporations.
Alan…it is nice to see you post again, of course happy that you are spending time with family… no doubt season changes can help too.
Yes HDC/Intel?...well we are waiting for Judge Albright to make his decision but if he is waiting on Intel to release their earnings first, I doubt that but that sounds good for HDC….but what do I know?
I wonder how many eyes are waiting for Judge Albrights ruling? I hope he denies Intel which hopefully starts a hyper-roo in this stock. Leaving me with another smile.
I don’t like the idea that investor and traders feel Intel has massive billions of dollars and can afford just handing out a billion or two to HDC. Personally I feel that Intel regardless of our patents either way that Intel treated us like chet when they didn’t need to. I do understand when you talked about Intel just ignoring HDC but if HDC’s documentations are truth what documentations does Intel have within the conversations between these two corporations. I am saying this and since I’m just a layman, and if HDC is pushed into an actual trial (which neither want) will the Judge allow all that documentation be heard by a jury? If so I believe HDC will prevail big time and abusiveness by Intel. Now my words here may not be the proper lingo but I’m sure you understand what I’m trying to say, I hope?
At any rate the bang for the dollars for us shareholders/traders are in the hype and not in the dollars that HDC could ever imagine.