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Where are the words "Without Merit"?
I’m not an attorney but follow me, I find it strange that M/A-COM's press release referring to the original Gig law suite states Gigs claims are “without merit” but the Gig press release on Thursday states that “This new lawsuit was filed without any prior demands or notice” and yesterday’s still doesn’t say “without merit” but states “GigOptix will continue to review the two patents at issue in the complaint filed by MACOM. However, while GigOptix is continuing its investigation, and recognizing that the outcome is not presently known, in light of the initial discovered facts, the claims and the products, GigOptix doesn’t believe that MACOM’s actions will have any material impact on GigOptix’ financial position.” Again nothing stated about “Without Merit”. Gig usually words its press releases very carefully.
I call these eraser words "while GigOptix is continuing its investigation" whatever follows doesn't really mean anything.
If I am incorrect please point it out.
Seeing as how those guys spend so much time on the other board I just I’d give the investors here some food for thought.
Normally and Opportunity doesn’t knock more than once. ;)
Good Luck X
Oh No just hit 90 Cents, it might be a good time to buy a couple thousand shares and sell them back as they try to work it back up, you could make a few quick bucks.
Not Me thought, their creative engineering appears to be as bad as the creative financing they built this company on, and that also ended up in court.
What comes around goes around I guess.
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Oops, You Are CORRECT, I was wrong.
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Agreed that is why Fred Leonberger former CTO of JDSU and Joe Miller Former CTO of Corning are here. Bintz said 6 months to 18 months to get designed in by the LSS and IMO the LSS is referenced at the end of your article. After all Perkinamine is in fact Compatible with silicon and the CMOS process it is incredibly fast and cheap. The LSS is the number 1 priority, but the bottom line is that they still need a device to create completion in a bidding war, in order to bring in IBM, Lockheed, I’d love to see a presentation to Google. I’m not sure what passively tested means but hopefully they’ll get the show on the road soon and can at least announce successful modulation on a board in the lab.
Honestly after following this for so many years since the Goetzs invented it over a decade ago I'd take 20 Bucks. It is still hard to believe the Super star talent that has joined this company since back in the day when it was Mom, Pop, Fred and Andrew in small lab in Wilmington. Odds were against them from day one but it appears the game is on.
Something to think about hmm they use gold on the electrodes not sure uh. Um I think this Is above my pay grades.
It looks at first glance like a flash in the pan, it might be a good quickie play but what I saw wasn’t much, Lets have Spooks weigh in? You awake?
Perhaps I missed something but as I understood it Wise graphene was never protected therefore anyone can get it (because it is not manmade), it occurs naturally and therefore cannot be patented , that it why you read so much about everyone is playing with it, we looked at that a few years ago
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2010/press.html
Graphene has its place, touch screens, etc; I think the missing bang gap is Huge Issue though, if Perkinamine wasn’t manmade you’d see just as many institutions experimenting with it. But they cannot, the nice part about all the reseach is that most people using it publish what they figure out and I’d bet at least some of the knowledge can be used here.
I wonder if they changed up the ad over the weekend to include info on the Ladar front. IXO, I’d guess the next bit of news will be the details on the award or more importantly what stage 2 of the award might look like.
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Nice find Gates n Face, funny rickface in my mind I always get you confused with rickmasters, think I'll call you face in my head.
Web site is the same, just so one of you don’t think it changed in the future I’ll tell you what I noticed.
If you change the size of the window on the computer the web site takes everything that is listed across the top Home/About/Applications/Technology/Next/Investors/Contacts us and changes it to a L – O – N – G GRAY “Menu” bar and when you click on the menu bar it creates a drop down menu, (same info) Just my laptop had a smaller window.
Sorry to confuse
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Yes I’d say that for now EM is out of the picture. It looked to me like once LWLG looked under the hood at what they had to offer and what they wanted a merger agreement could not be reached. So we tried the quickie modulator but apparently it wasn’t compatible and didn’t work. Here in Delaware we have no fault insurance so we’ll just leave it that without any name calling or anything. Hey they gave it a shot and we moved on.
Still not sure if we have anything going on with the U of D, I mean I don’t think that they are totally out of the picture, in fact I’d be willing to bet that we may do a foundry run or two with Prathers buddy, Hochberg that heads up a program called OpSIS it relocated about a year ago to Delaware from the University of Washington. It is an Intel/ U.S. Air Force project, I guess it could be a nothing on our end, but I just don’t think so. University cats/acadamia can be a bit challenging for a small business; it is a different world than business. Oh and some of the investors once they find out LWLG is working with somebody actually try to contact them, some go as far as to trick the other entity (I guess some of that could be my fault, like the time I waltzed into the lab, Lol) shoot one guy filed a freedom of information act request, Lol so I can’t blame Lightwave for not giving us details while they are happening, cause we are a pretty proactive group of investors. IMO, to this day though that I’d bet you that LWLG can walk down the street into U of D to double check something on the science end.
By all means keep doing your due diligence and please double check what I post because I could be wrong, most of this things are from memory and the good Lord knows that I’ve damaged that over my life so I could be wrong.
I’m glad someone dumped 3k shares last minute at the end of the day and kicked her down a peg cause I’ll be in the game next week.
Oh “When working prototypes are in hand, we will demonstrate to potential customers, some whom we have already worked with previously." Oh Dimes to donuts the company has 3 letters the first is an I and the last is an M with a B in there somewhere.
As for the business model , to this day I still look forward to seeing how this is going to play out, Honestly I think the model is like this, create a device, create another, create another, create another, all have different specs from the same material, wham bought out, end of story. But they cannot tell the business world that, as Z would say, that is no way to run a business, but IXO there is no way a fortune 500 company is going to let a small company dictate and control this market. Nope, some want 100 bucks a share, shoot if it were in the next couple months I’d take 10 or 20. That always gets them stirred up.
Lol, A new one IMO = IXO or In X’s Opinion
Going go play
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I was talking to Z at the SHM about the things that we find out there on the net, he said that yes there are some very interesting things out there but doing them in the lab and on the street are two completely different things. He said that stability is an issue with many of the technologies, they get X result on day 1, Y on day 2 and on day 3 nothing. I’d say that the Achilles heel with this technology is that it is liquid; water boils at 100c so IMO this would turn into a gas at 250c, not sure at what temperature it would freeze. Remember what Ol Dr. Goetz did was to take something that was very stable and made it EO active. I still appears that most of the research going on (to me anyhow) looks like they are taking something that is EO active and trying to figure out how to stabilize it. As for those calling for White Papers I’m not sure that we will ever see them unless you have good reason and are willing to sign an NDA, IMO there is good reason for it, proly has something to do with Indigo being held as a trade secret (like Gore-Tex) and not patented because then you’d have to tell all. They are on to something here and it sucks but I’m 99.9% certain that it is for our good. In the end these guys are about creating a product, not academia 'flash in the pan' publicity, IMO these ol birds are here not so much even for money (because they’ve got that already) but to create a legacy.
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Well seeing as how they don’t appreciate it when I explain things in basic easy to understand common sense English, I won’t put in my 2 cents on this and post on Yahoo Snezs find because they will take it as bashing. Lol don’t worry in fact it kinda reminds me of when the Federal Courts put Gig through the ringer what 3 years ago, Swenson was Ordered to resign, um, yup August 2009 you remember those days the wiz bangs on the Yahoo BB said it was a mere flesh wound and in the long run it wouldn’t matter. Oops just looked Gig hit $4.50 that month. Oh and for the record LWLG hit a high of 80 Cents, do the math gents.
Good Luck With Your investment Wiz Bags.
X Boy Out
Excellent question there weaklegs, short story long, back in the day Fred Jr. used to say that they should be able make a modulator for $400 bucks and sell it $800 when they were selling for about $4,000 on the street, so I’d say the material is dirt cheap to make. Perhaps putting it through the extra steps to sterilize it might make it a bit more expensive but Zelibor made the comment one time that the most expensive part of a modulators would be the packaging and I don’t think that it will require anything except for lining up the light/fiber/wave guide or whatever, not so much for protection (Like Gig has) plus it does not require a clean room (just an inert environment when they are poling it) so I’d say that it is VERY cheap. Everyone from Zelibor, to Joe Miller to Leonberger has said that it is cheap to make and that is one of the advantages. If you listen to the Long haul providers like Verizon they are as concerned about the drive voltage as they are about the cost of the device, also factor in the cooling that is required today that won’t be required tomorrow we’ve got a homerun for the Green crowd/play as well. I think on the market today the Mods require like 4V for 10 or even 40 Gig and one of these LWLG guys said that Lightwave is shooting for 1 volt for 100 Gig. Someone can check that it may have been ½ volt. I put the numbers down from memory so I could be wrong. (Not sure how many watts/amps etc.)
I’m Long, only home for minute I Hope that helps.
Good Luck
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I just went on the website and a new Menu bar popped up at the top, kinda tricky to navigate the drop downs. They may have changed something in the content?
Does anyone see something new?
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Honestly I think that 3-D Radar especially in the Infrared would be pretty cool and with a super-fast refresh rate it would be one heck an advantage. You guys can take it however you want but it looks to me like they are doing what they said and saying what they will do.
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/ir_zoo/lessons/background.html
And if you remember there was an article on Turpin a few years back about this exact kind of thing, different wavelength I believe, proly in the visible spectrum.
I think this was article I'm running out of edit time
http://www.gildertech.com/public/Sampleissues/gTRDecem05.pdf
Yup Page 3.
IMO This is why Terry has been hanging around for all this time.
Who will Be First with a product the Military, Telcom, Colorado or the LSS?
We won't last as soon as one nails it.
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WeakLegman (Lol) it takes a while to comprehend this technology, what they’ve got is the patented recipe to a chromophore(a dye, dyes control light) that can control light (photons) is stable, cheap and is compatible with CMOS temperatures and also silicon used in todays computers. This material will act as a bridge between the current copper/electrons technolgoy to tomorrows Electro Optical and on to All Optical. Todays modulators like a 40 gig are actually 4 x 10gig= 40 a hundred is 10x10 Lightwaves perk is fast enough to hit 100 Gig on a Single mode fiber. It is so fast that the government looked at it to filter out laser threats to military satellites but it was too fast for that application.
Perhaps A good place to start is to do a search on Fred Leonberger, he is a consultant for Lightwave, basically he is credited with creating todays Lithium Niobate Modulator and became the CTO at JDSU. OK so you have Fred and Joe Miller at this little company in Delaware. Joe Miller was Corning’s Executive V.P. & CTO. OK so it may be a pure coincidence that Joe Miller retired from Corning moved back home to Delaware and Fred Leonberger decided to work with Lightwaves Perkinamine, Both of these Cats are HIGHLY respected and yes it takes a while to sort out. Now we are seeing Intel collaborating with Corning a coincidence Perhaps.
Think of it as a Biotech Play with Computers, it has MANY, Many, uses (cures) .
Just a thought, I’m not going to post a while and explain the science nor the potential, it is probably better for all of us let whoever wants to dump sell it at a lower price, more shares for those who are buying and it will get those shares in other hands faster. When it starts back up it should do so quickly and some are likely to chase it.
It is hard to watch but it is what it is and until solid news is released those unsure of the science and doubt Leonbergers statements and knowledge of the market will be heading for the hills. Kind of like back in the day in corporate American when our bonuses were awarded based on a percentage of our salary (dollar amount) so you HOPED for a lower price on the award date so you would receive a higher share count, it went against everything that you worked for but it in the end honestly it was better for us, kinda backwards, but yep I'll take them. The price ONLY matters on the day you sell. Besides the volume is so low that whatever they are selling them at really doesn’t matter.
Just hope that the LSS doesn’t make a play for us at this low of a number.
No Reds they aren't stuck for money they won't need any until next year, even then there are warrants and such (maneuvers) that they can make (even if they are not in the money). Folks are simply selling it at what they think is worth, apparently not much.
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The reply was directed at the boards confusion not you that's why board posts are difficult to interpret
LPC is simply a vehicle for turning shares into cash. PERIOD. There is nothing wrong with that, nothing mysterious, that is simply what they do, that is what they are here for. They get a kicker up front then using the formula they get a slightly lower price than the street then turn around and sell them to investors, PERIOD, no mystery. I’m not sure how many of you guys watched Lightwave raise money over the years but that it wasn’t good for the investors either. Investors, big time investors play hard ball, they’ll tell them one thing then do another to get a better price, meanwhile the price would wander down. (They’d have to sell those shares for a reduced price because qualified investors could not sell them for one year and they are pain to deal with AND then provide sweeteners in the form of warrants). What’s nice is that LPC is finding investors to purchase their shares. Guys it is what it is, it takes money to make money, unless someone can step up and provide them with a 20 million dollar line of unsecured credit,,,, ah never mind.
The bottom line is that we are ALL frustrated by the time that it is taking to bring this science to fruition, I’m frustrated too. I guess that we have to rely on Joe Miller, the Dupont guys, Chemical guys and Fred Leonnberger’s judgment. THEY WILL GET IT, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME, SUCKS BUT ALL OF THE COMPLAINING IN THE WORLD WON’T CHANGE THE SCIENCE.
“When you hire people that are smarter than you are, you prove you are smarter than they are.”
Going to go Play
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Honestly I'm not a technical guy just a common sense guy that's asks why what's the problem and try's to figure it put and post what I think is the truth . Let us hope that we are all right
Imo We won't last more than 6 months after that
Overheard someone say it at the shm I don't remember who it was a lot to digest in 4 pr 5 hours and my head was spinning by the end. But that's what I overheard the are 10 s of conversations going on at one time
This not directed at you Odds
Do not expect any notifications about progress updates with the LSS from Lightwave until it is a done deal; apparently they were upset that Lightwave tipped their hand last time and the project is a big deal. I know that we as investors hate that but apparently that’s the way it has to be and yelling and beating the dog will not change a multibillion dollar project, it is what it is. As Z said at the SHM, advances made in that area will also help us with other devices (and there are others). Z said that he knows what’s next but chooses not to tell us, not because he can’t because he won’t. You either trust him or you don’t, if one doesn’t trust him then perhaps they shouldn’t be here.
Looks like 80 cents is the new norm and as some of the player’s exit it will be an excellent opportunity for those that want to stick their toe in the water and move in. I like buying at this 80 cent number, 80 cents to $1.60 and on to $8 IMO is definitely doable with 2 announcements and when they get out an announcement on a contract who amongst us will be selling? For now it is what it is, it is just a shame that it took them this long to get enough funding to set up things like they needed to tweak this in order to further this science or we’d be at 2 or 3 dollars. Over that time they’ve just plain wore us out getting there. It is only a matter of time now, the polymer is stable and very fast, and now they need the correct bandwidth, voltage, percentage of chromophore, and alignment etc. does that mean a week or another year who knows.
As for the advertising, IMO the general public Joe Blow types will have to hear the message over and over again, 99% will ignore and those that don’t will need to study it; I wouldn’t expect anyone to buy this based on just a message.
I know that many hate it when I’m positive but it is in my nature, those that feel better being miserable have it, X 90% positive and 10% negative.
Gotta Run
See Ya
Not sure, I already brought it up, we know he is still onboard because we saw him 2 weeks ago.
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ALL IN ALL I’d say that it looks like a good job a couple new things I learned.
1V for 100 gig IMO that is a Huge power savings AND remember that more than likely those same savings could be realized across both Personal Battery Devices, Large Data centers, Drones, etc. but most won’t get it. Remember what Verizon said about operating costs being as important as the cost of the device. And then savings on the Air Conditioning to dissipate that heat (GREEN) HUGE, HUGE .
Optical Correlators Now That’s a new one for us to kick around.
If anyone has anything constructive TO ADD or that you think would help please post it, helpful is always better than goofy nit picky stuff, I’m sure that they will entertain any and all thoughts. If you want to post them on here I’ll gather them up or for those that have Z’s or Steves email them I’m sure they will be receptive.
Nice Job Profit this message board looks pretty good with your additions.
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Clear your cache Proto
http://www.wikihow.com/Clear-Your-Browser's-Cache
My point was that Cnbc is NOT where they ran the bit so why talk about it? politics is Never good for a message board guys
You have to love someone that criticizes one for not doing their homework then demonstrates that they haven’t done theirs.
Google can be tricky, I think that you have the TV and Radio shows mixed up. Of course CNBC is dying everyone knows that far far too left to hold a majority and Larry is on the right, go figure a far right guy on a far left TV station can not make it. As info Larry Kudlow was the host of CNBC’s primetime “The Kudlow Report” (7pm-8pm ET). - - - -> He hosts “The Larry Kudlow Show” on WABC Radio on Saturday mornings from 10am to 1pm.
I have to confess though I only spent 5 minutes looking so if I’m wrong sorry, anyhow guys I’ll take a little press over no press. They just want to “Start to get Lightave Logic’s name out there”. A next generation of material that can control Photons using Electrons and ultimately Light Controling Light in Plastic is kind of like electricity replacing kerosene, it is hard for folks to understand.
Funny, I took a little trip over the weekend and there was a CNBC news stand in the airport, I walked up to the counter and asked if they had any FOX news hats.
LOL, X
I think they are focused on the NR and Indgo and the amounts in the different batches. IMO the rest of the different versions will prolly go with the IP to whoever buys us.
Summary we will be bought out. X
Honestly we probably shouldn't say much directly about it, and that is coming from X, LOL. This is my one shot.....
Uh I found the Bintz comment,,,,, The two companies are not comparable now unless you go back to when I was there and he said “we had all the money and you didn’t” comment reinforcing. That is when I came in the picture did a little research and basically made a guess before investing, it is just a shame that the Goetzs ended up in limbo for so many years because of the decisions that were made by those controlling the purse strings and apparently in search of a Nobel prize (That some day IMO will be awarded to the Goetz's). At the time Gig (Lumera) was priced at like 50 bucks a share, man, o man, o man, o man, I’m glad I wasn’t tempted by the dark side. To date Lightwave certainly hasn’t set the world of fire (yet) but talk about a spanking, no more like a beating or a near death experience those guys have suffered. I did say hi to Mrs. Goetz at the meeting and told her that I was making/continuing the effort on their behalf or something like that. (I did not reference Gig or that funding) Honestly I don’t think that she knew what I was talking about but whoever was with her smiled and appeared to know me or what I was referring to. Anyway, I felt good about it when I walked away.
Here’s one for you, if we only had 6 Million in the bank we could pay Gig to take our technology like Lumera did when their CEO resigned, they could not find another and then LITERARILY paid Gig to take the super duper secret EO molecule recipe, OK I’m done, LOL
I know that many don’t like it when I point it and post about it but it is still a VERY relevant and sorry and me posting about it helps me to remember those events, that due diligence, that call, and keeps me hanging in there. Lightwave will get it, and once they do LOOK OUT, As uh a few of the employees said at the meeting “X soon enough there will be no going back”.
IMO whoever is dumping at this price may end up chasing it, but you never know, cause I said that like 8 years ago. Timing the science is a tough call.
OPTIMISTIC AS EVER,
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Since we now know that Indigo has 3rd Order properties it would seem that a Hugh advantage would be the ability to quality check devices using that method. In other words if one could check the alignment and purity of a sample by shining a couple of lasers on a device and moving it around before attaching/installing it or verify that waveguide didn’t have a dead spot or check the entire field prior to installing the gold electrodes sounds logical. I don’t know busy day but think about it they could map out an entire coupon and cut out or map out any bad spots. Honestly I haven’t a clue but I’m kind of thinking that would be a Hugh advantage over just a 2nd order material. As for the spin coating on/in a wave guide and poling it, I’m still a little fuzzy in that area. I need to watch it again do some more homework/study it more.
Just thinking out loud here.
Busy day not much time until next week I wonder how those trying to time this will make out?
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I just listened to the SHM again. Yup not sure most will get this but Single Mode, Yup. Chi3 Indigo, hmmm, Yup that is 2 important things that I learned, oh and the borrowing cell technology thing. Somehow I think that when you put those together they will all be important factors that we'll be talking about going forward.
Single mode
Generally, singlemode cable provides less signal attenuation, higher transmissions speeds, and up to 50 times greater transmission distance than multimode cable. Singlemode cable can transmit data at terabits per second over 100km without requiring re-amplification of the signal.
Singlemode fiber typically has a diameter of only 8.3 to 10 microns, which is much narrower than multimode fiber which is usually 50 to 100 microns in diameter. The small core of a singlemode fiber allows for the propagation of only one light wave, so there is no possibility of distortion due to overlapping light pulses. Also, singlemode is more stable than multimode for systems that have branching devices, such as couplers.
Just sayin
X Boy
OK I’m back Snez n I were down at the beach checking out the 2013 swim suits n wraps.
New Web Site, Soon (Perhaps a week or 2 at the most?)
PR Media campaign national Radio thing (they want to get our name out there) some think that it is kind of cheesey but we need to start getting the name out there, I think it starts Friday a few blips here and there in New York and the West Coast, just a few investors a day will begin to push this up. Proly at first some will sell into it, then as it picks up momentum if executed properly she should head north again. Oh um Z said that part of the commercial could be redone in few days if/when that are awarded a contract and that was important for us to understand.
Modulators 101 by Leonnberger was interesting
The lab tour was very interesting I kinda sorta understand a lot more about the process and what all is involved.
I wouldn’t expect to hear anything about anything from Lightwave concerning the LSS until it is a done deal, apparently they don’t want to let the cat out of the bag and if they tell us something, well,,,,,you know how long it takes us to put 2 plus 2 together. This is their top priority.
A far as money I don’t that they are very concerned, at this stage taking anything substantial would require them giving away too much and they said that it wouldn’t be in our interest. They said something to the effect that most companies don’t want to be bothered with a small about (5-10 mil). Tom said that he was approached by several institutional types at that last presentation. Honestly I’m not worried about money, when they need it (like next year) they’ll get it.
Yes we were correct on the NSF grant the purpose of the grant is about commercializing the technology. I think they said like 1 in 8 are awarded money, or we have another request in something like that, kinda fuzzy on that point.
On the merger front they said that once they looked behind the scenes and studied the companies that we were considering merging with it did not look like a good deal for us so we said thanks but no thanks, I think that there were 5 or 6 and there is currently one left.
Oh on the Host material, this is NOT an issue, I forget the exact polymer but NO it is not a problem. They did say that when we read something online about a university using like PMMA and getting wonderful results the problem is that a couple days later it fades so we shouldn’t get our panties in a wad when we read about crazy numbers because to there knowledge nothing is out there with Perks advantages.
Gig they said is not issue, that patent thing, they just looked at the ceiling and rolled their eyes, something like “Oh Please X, that is not an issue, our material is completely different”
I was sitting behind Joe Miller and as Z said something to the effect that Look at the players whos names are associated with Lightwave and if Perkinamine didn’t have promise they certainly wouldn’t be anywhere near this. Joe did nod his head in agreement.
Oh Miller asked Bintz about Lightwaves characteristics and if he was aware of anything out there (Hint) comparable, Lou kinda danced a bit then said, NOPE, Perkinamine has properties that make it unique enough that we can do trade offs, in other words they need what we’ve got so some may need to bend a little bit to use our material.
Oh Steve did say something to the effect that once this takes off there won’t be any coming back.
The price is going to do what it is going to do, there is no way for most to possibly comprehend the potential or determine what market we will penetrate first, but IMO it will happen.
Oh Micholson said something about indigos Chi 3’s properties, Not sure that we ever heard that before. Chi3 is Third Order Light switching light, perhaps we did see that on a slide last year.
Oh and if you guys want to look around at something Look up Single Mode Fiber” Vs. Multi mode I think that the Perk will utilize that kind of fiber.
Rick where you at send n I are out here with the ducks ?
It looks like this answers the High Temp Plastic Semi conductor issue raised by Aggs.
Plastics are used extensively throughout the semiconductor industry, especially where high-temperature processing is required. Plastics are dimensionally stable at high and low temperatures, provide clean & contaminant-free surfaces, and are not affected by harsh chemicals, strong acids, or solvents. New plastics continue to replace metal parts for wafer handling, bearing surfaces, processing vessels, parts carriers, and IC test equipment sockets & handlers. For more information, select the link above.
Here is list of some of them and the max temp exceeds Perk.
http://www.boedeker.com/semiapp.htm
Reds I swear Ya never know with this stock what it is going to do.
I’ll check with someone Proto on the Gig patent, as I see it is one device, no big deal espectially when they are using words like “an epiphany in the approach to control of process and thermal variations”
I’ll also see if someone will give me an 8th grade level response to what the basic issue is holding them back on the modulator Aggs thinks it is the Host polymer. Honestly I don’t know but they usually respond when asked so I’ll give it a shot.
My truck is in the shop so I had time to spend a few minutes today, I haven’t done this in level II monitoring in Months, kind of nerve racking, I don’t how you guys do it day in and day out. I feel like a monkey on crack pushing the button for another fix rather than eating food.
X Boy
As I understand it, no you do not need a clean room, that may have changed though but as I understand it the room over in the technology park where Babu cooks the Perk is NOT a clean room. However that may be a different story when it is applied to the device, introduced to the host, poled etc. Honestly I don’t know, I just found it curious that the insurance company would buy a clean room and we would move in the headquarters only, maybe they did it for us on the come and perhaps it didn’t work out. I was driving my son to work and noticed only 2 signs not 3 and that’s why I posted it.
Actually Verse I think that particular web site was something pre Z days because it lists Marcelli as the CEO and that is where he was located. Steve Cordavano needs to contact the University of Mass and have the site updated. As info I think the NSF original connection goes all the way back to the Fred G days AFRL testing. What I’m excited about is that it appears that they FINALLY have the science to a point where they are confident enough that apparently they can get consistent results and then tweak it at the end to modify its performance and that once a WEEK the team will have to meet to discuss the 10 to 15 contacts made that week to determine a path forward OR not. I wonder what kind of presentation is being made? I'm betting Colorado did a little something. That is how I read it, and honestly No matter what they do they will never make everyone happy. Oh speaking fo the headquarters building Here is something to think about, that Broomhill and Hitchens office in the industrial park that the insurance company (conviently) leased (that had lab space and a clean room?) yadda yadda the headquarters address today, only has 2 signs in front, one is for the Broomhill and the other is Lightwaves. I wonder what is going on in that clean room? Proly just sitting empty, I mean how much can a clean room possibly cost, they probably turned it into a break room, or perhaps someone is working in there that doesn’t want to advertise it?
Yup 90% sure, for those who didn't poke around on site
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/i-corps/index.jsp
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/i-corps/curriculum.jsp
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/i-corps/teams.jsp
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/i-corps/components.jsp
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/i-corps/nodes.jsp
IMO this NSF thing is more about shopping the Perk moving toward commercialization in OTHER markets and developing interest, slightly tipping our hand to generate interest. IMO by doing that not only will it lead to partnerships and outside funding but in a roundabout way it will also bring in investors.
This is where I’m coming from
The NSF organization is IIPthe division is Division of Industrial Innovation and Partnerships
The Directorate for Engineering's division of Industrial Innovation and Partnerships (IIP) serves the entire foundation by fostering partnerships to advance technological innovation and plays an important role in the public-private innovation partnership enterprise.
IIP seeks to successfully invest in science and engineering research across all disciplines that have the potential for high impact in meeting national and societal needs. To achieve this goal, IIP focuses on leveraging federal, small business, industrial, university, state and community college resources.
Genuine partnerships are an important aspect of IIP programs. These partnerships are dynamic and growing relationships based upon mutual interests, knowledge sharing, and trust. Genuine partnerships require vision, performance goals and benchmarks, and passionate and visionary leaders. They are bound by essential interdependency and shared commitment. IIP partnerships should facilitate the types of infrastructure that can sustain and nurture the spread of innovative activity.
http://www.nsf.gov/div/index.jsp?div=iip
http://www.nsf.gov/eng/iip/about.jsp
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1342641