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Your interpretation mostly certainly welcome (as wait).
Was summary judgment of next phase, that is, a trial discussed?
Also, what about Daubert and Dr. Akl vs. the defense, that is, was it clearly accepted and proven the MSO 13 infringed and used or incorporated portions of the ChanBond patents?
Thank you "Magnus The Magnificent",
Scruffer (and EVERYONE).
Ü win. Going to bed & watching football.
Yes, huge decision tomorrow.
LONG & STRONG UOIP (Chanbond) and to Sir Mr. William R. (Billy) Carter.
So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail
A smile from a veil
Do you think you can tell?
The challenge is on; ChanBond to the thief's.
The MSO's clearly stole from ChanBond.
Judge Andrew's should rule "To the jury we go!".
It's, basically, a make or break decision.
No reason NOT to allow this to go to jury.
I'm just glad hold shares in-this-once-in-decade (lifetime) "Revoked" stock.
Celebrate Your Unique Talent Day; Sir Billy Carter
Mr. William (Billy) R. Carter Jr. has a very unique and specialized talent for remedying the injustices of those who have been infringed upon and had their PTAB granted patents stolen.
"Hear Ye Hear Ye" to Mr. William R. Carter Jr. and the work he does.
We owe him everything on the future (hopeful) win and distribution of settlement monies.
It may, well indeed, change the course of many of the lives of us lucky & fortunate few who took the chance and invested.
Remember the "Skull & Crossbones" warning.
I'm so excited about our opportunity.
I've never been in a stock like this before. It's our 1 in 10,000 stock (and shot at "Real" money).
And we're all in it. Hear, hear to ALL US LONGS who took the chance.
Tomorrow is a huge day.
Awaiting the soon to be Judge Andrew's ruling "It's up to a jury to decide and going to trial".
We have two (2) 100% fully intact PTAB granted infringed patents with "RF Channel" explicitly and clearly defined.
This is me cheering for Billy, ChanBond and us very fortuitous stakeholders.
I was dreaming of bigger things
And wanna leave my own life behind (job, work, stress, bills, etc.)
Not a yes sir, not a follower
Just IMAGINE what GOOD you could do with your proceeds!
Happy Fibonacci Day & "Pre-Big Monday" stakeholders.
Really lÖÖking forward 2 Monday w/ great anticipation.
TY attendees, once again, for being our eyes & ears at the hearing.
Also, we have an all-day action-packed sequence of college games:
> 11:00 CST: #8 Penn State Nittany Lions vs #2 Ohio State Buckeyes (-18.5)
> 11:00 CST: #10 Minnesota Golden Gophers vs Northwestern Wildcats (+14)
> 14:30 CST: Texas A&M Aggies vs #4 Georgia Bulldogs (-13)
> 18:30 CST: #6 Oregon Ducks vs Arizona State Sun Devils (+14)
> 19:00 CST: TCU Horned Frogs vs #9 Oklahoma Sooners (-18)
> 21:00 CST: #7 Utah Utes vs Arizona Wildcats (+22.5)
Lastly, plugging UOIP's historical trades into Leonardo Pisano Bigollo's equations,
we should see a final share price of $134.6269. WTFibonacci. Oh, %&*#. LÖL.
Xn = .0001, .0001,.0002, .0003, .0005, .0008, .0013, .0021, .0034, .0055, .0089,
.0144, .0233, .0377, .061, .0987, .1597, .2584, .4181, .6765, 1.0946, 1.7711,
2.8657, 4.6368, 7.5025, 12.1393, 19.6418, 31.7811, 51.4229, 83.204, 134.6269.
I'd be happy w/ 1/100th of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number
LONG & STRONG revoked UOIP and to one giant step closer to TRIAL DATE.
FiboScrufferacci
Ü made me laugh. Just in time 4 Thanksgiving.
Or the upcoming holiday "Family get togethers".
So we have the justus1 WAG family predictions.
0.73 = justus1 son
0.75 = justus1
2.75 = justus1 daughter
Where's your 93 year old mother's (from Edinburgh) guess. LÖL.
I hope she's well.
Anyway, there's always 1 in the family.
OK, TY. 1 says "Tomayto", 1 says "Tomahto".
The bottom line is if ChanBond wins, hopefully, we all win.
Isn't that ALL that really matters. We should be able to agree on that.
Irrespective of how distributions are (hopefully) made and UOIP revived or absorbed, etc., WE ARE ALL LONG & ON THE SAME TEAM.
Please "Let sleeping dogs lie".
Thank you again.
Respectfully, Scruffer
TGIF and good morning.
Rounding up now; That $9B on other case.
Maybe it was Phil's post & WAG or the $9B from other case.
I'd be happy with 1/4th of that.
That would be $2.25B or about $1.40 per share.
All I know, it's great being a LONG stakeholder and member of this board.
This has been one of the most exciting stock ventures ever.
What a ride!
TY 4 going 2 hearing team members.
Look forward to your feedback.
Hope have a delicious lunch and exciting time,
Scruffer
Just like your post, it's only my opinion.
Do NOT think defense wants a jury verdict, but Billy may:
- Treble, triple, 3x damages
- Information made public
- An NDA is mostly for the GRAND TOTAL of settlement $'s paid:
>> They won't want this to be revealed--How embarrassing
>> RPX, CommScope (Arris), Cisco, OEMs, CableLabs, Comcast, etc. screwed-up
>> For example, Cisco may pay $1B (and may footnote it or pay to CableLabs)
>> CableLabs and their members, being a non-profit lab, will not want to reveal what contributes from its members.
>> CommScope may contribute $2B
>> Comcast may contribute $2B
>> Charter may contribute $1B, etc.
>> (The MSO's should contribute based on cable modem market share).
>> And then there are the private cable companies.
Also, Carter may just pay legal fees out of settlement. And may include a higher asking settlement price for the legal bills.
And with a trial comes appeals.
Like I wrote, I think it is the defenses, (the collective infringers), best move.
Anyway, you inquired. That's my take and wish.
I want it over & settled.
And to think:
Supreme Court says it will hear Oracle vs. Google copyright suit
- Oracle claims in a 9-year-old lawsuit seeking $9 billion in damages
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/supreme-court-says-it-will-hear-oracle-vs-google-copyright-suit-2019-11-15
Charles Schwab in talks to buy TD Ameritrade, a deal could be announced as early as today, source says.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/charles-schwab-in-talks-to-buy-td-ameritrade-a-deal-could-be-announced-as-early-as-today-source-says.html?__source=newsletter%7Cbreakingnews
Phil: I HÖPE Ü R Right.
Suffice it to say, I think WE ALL hope you're correct.
And I'd be HONORED to award you the WAG prize.
BTW... They get better with higher settlement/judgment/distributed dollars.
Also, you win up to $5.1049/share.
5.00 = Long term
5.01 = Philhump03
5.20 = papa p
Actual #, just Billy, but we can calculate.
Actual # known by his legal team, accountants and such too.
We can calculate what is passed to private UOIP, Inc. though.
jbbb has written Billy is going to roll some extra funds into his account for future lawsuits.
Whatever money (or monies) you receive, simply divide that $# by the # shares in your account.
So, if receive $2M and have 1M shares, the distribution = $2.00/share (for everyone).
For our "Rough" total settlement, multiply that ($2/share in example) by the "Last reported shares outstanding" or:
1,614,601,069 * $2 = $3.23B settlement or purchase for patents.
The actual number would be more b/c that's what was distributed.
The grand total would have Billy's expenses, roll-over $'s into his account for future lawsuits, $5M to Deirdre and possible ChanBond legal costs in it as well.
Life altering. It would make Billy a God in my eyes.
It would cement his mark as honorable and he'd become famous (if wanted too).
Eventually, major media would pick-up on it. They'd say, "Could you imagine owning 2M shares in that company?".
I pray for us all--inventors, Billy, Rob's widow & children, Deirdre, accredited investors, Billy's friends & family and us pinky, grey, revoked LONGS.
Hoping for purchase of ChanBond's patents.
Think that is the defenses best play.
It will be expensive though so don't know.
Think will occur prior to trial or jury returns with a verdict.
Think all parties will contribute:
MS-13 Gang of Thieves
CommScope - Will be sued since inherited Arris' indemnification
Cisco - Will be sued b/c MSO's relied on their expertise
CableLabs (and their members)
All Cable DOCSIS 3.0+ Original Equipment Manufacturers
Think will roll under CableLabs patent portfolio.
Royalties invite other issues: Auditing (each firm?), unit sales, revenues, "Opening their books", etc.
Lastly, think there will be an NDA.
JMHAO (Just my hope and opinion).
My point is "No floor discussion".
It's ALL at the discretion of Billy.
Like I wrote, I'll be happy with a win.
Of course, the more (dollars) the merrier (in any form).
If get royalties, great, but no input will come from us.
If want income stream, can always take proceeds and buy dividend mutual funds, some preferred stocks and/or corporate bonds.
I'm EXTREMELY appreciative have private shares.
Just hope win and get payout, as we all do.
I'll be happy w/ a win and payout.
Billy is in 100% control.
"Royalty payments" will not be put to a floor discussion.
He's funded this with $3-4M+ of his own money.
A win is a win is a win.
I'd be thankful and extremely appreciative for that.
To deduce: Division among the MSO 13?
Also, since 01/31 = Trial Scheduling Conference, summary judgement should move us forward.
Onward Matees!!! (fingers-crossed & knock on wood)
jbbb: Continuation Series: 9,363,55, Is this it?
Inventors: Hennenhoefer; Earl (Carlisle, PA), Snyder; Richard (Harrisburg, PA), Stine; Robert (Mechanicsburg, PA)
Applicant:
Name City State Country Type
CBV, Inc. Carlisle PA US
Assignee: CHANBOND LLC (Dallas, TX)
Family ID: 25012974
Appl. No.: 14/167,289
Filed: January 29, 2014
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=cbv&s2=Hennenhoefer&OS=cbv+AND+Hennenhoefer&RS=cbv+AND+Hennenhoefer
This application is a continuation of Ser. No. 13/682,222 filed Nov. 20, 2012 which is a continuation of Ser. No. 12/564,663 filed on Sep. 22, 2009, which is a divisional of Ser. No. 12/066,102, filed on Feb. 1, 2008, now U.S. Pat. No. 7,941,822, which is a divisional of Ser. No. 09/749,258, filed on Dec. 27, 2000, now U.S. Pat. No. 7,346,918. The entire contents of each prior application are hereby incorporated by reference.
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No.
Can read 11/15 to current to get gist.
We need that trial date & looking gr8.
Yes, I did not understand IT AT ALL. d:~/ ???
Can appeal, but SHOULD move forward.
FACTS are in dispute.
It's not good though.
The defense is trying everything possible--legally & illegally???.
It's just part of the defense process.
We need that jury date though and then the pressure will really mount.
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On PM, U_R_right. It will REVERBERATE thru-out industry.
Remember, the stock got REVOKED. No trading.
But if (when, should) move forward to a jury, then most believe settlement will occur.
Specialneeds, being an insurance contract specialist, has written, it's up to the defense to mitigate or lessen damages.
Plus, zw has mentioned, board of directors (BOD) ready in standby mode, pay back fines and distribute proceeds if/when win/settle.
We will be private though.
Each stakeholder should get his/her pro-rata share value.
If settlement = $2.00 per share, should get around that less expenses and any miscellaneous "Roll-over" dollars into other Billy lawsuits.
All JMO and what read here.
No idea. I yield to others.
I find it best to use uspto.gov for searches and comparisons.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents
0 have cablelabs AND cbv.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PTXT&Query=cablelabs+AND+cbv
12 have cablelabs AND Hennenhoefer but look unrelated to our main 2.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PTXT&Query=cablelabs+AND+Hennenhoefer
ChanBond's attorneys would have been all over this.
This was probably one of their first projects, that is, to try to find any link b/t CBV's patents and any others that exist.
Plus, since granted the patents by the PTAB, the patents must be new, useful and non-obvious.
I don't think any of us lay people can decipher all the legal jargon and make an opinion.
All this is up to Judge Andrews, Mishcon & Bayard and the defense and hopefully a jury.
Even if we had an opinion, it wouldn't matter, but if prove infringement first, and used by CableLabs, then can be classified as SEP.
JMHO, Scruff
LT: Unfortunately, I do not understand your PM.
Did I miss something?
Did something get deleted?
Read what?
What's imperative is Summary Judgment = TRIAL.
Judge Andrews is to provide a summary judgment (Hearing in 9 days, 11/25) to decide if a jury is to hear ChanBond's case, that is, to allow this to go to trial.
Unquestionably, this is essential and the most vitally important next step. It's basically live or die.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=151284725
"A motion for summary judgment (sometimes called an “MSJ”) is a request for the court to rule that the other party has no case, because there are no facts at issue. The party making the motion is claiming that either the case should not go before a jury at all, or a jury could only rule in favor of the moving party".
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/research/summary-judgment-motion.html
Facts are in dispute so should (hopefully and in all likelihood) move forward.
Unfortunately, no one here, nor the plaintiffs, know for certain the outcome of the case; hence, the lawsuit.
But I understand and realize the impact and importance if found to be a Standard Essential Patent. It will be felt industry-wide.
First, infringement must be proven or disproved of the MSO's blatant infringement.
One would conclude, Mishcon, Bayard and Billy (and the inventors) know of CableLabs and their patents and what it would mean to be a SEP.
They'll do everything possible to show and prove this is a SEP.
Odds are highly in our favor infringement has occurred.
As we know, the defense is doing everything possible to deny, delay and dodge their owning-up to the facts.
It's one step at a time.
And who knows, maybe the plaintiffs have "An ace in-the-hole".
Here are all the USPTO patents with CableLabs referenced again.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=cablelabs&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PTXT
I HOPE U R right. Proven...Yet TBD.
Nothing would make me much happier if you are right LT.
Many of our financial dreams could be made to come true.
Thx. Liked news & mini short squeeze going on.
TRIAL DATE?
Also, anyone else getting a BS Spam Pop-up "Dear Verizon Customer" (or other) from http://happy.luckyparkclub.com/bonus/......... from iHub?
Switches tab name to "Customer Reward Program" too.
COMM: Notable earnings before Thursday’s open
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3515389-notable-earnings-thursday-s-open#email_link
Why would a consortium of MSOs list as SEP?
I guess I don't understand your postings.
CableLabs is a consortium of their member cable companies (65 total?); therefore, do not understand how they'd recognize ChanBond patents as standard-essential ones.
As previously written, believe best option is for:
COMM
CISCO
CableLabs
MSO 13
Other Cable Companies
&
All Cable DOCSIS 3.0+ Original Equipment Manufactures (OEMs)
to buy patents.
Then they can put them under CableLabs' or COMM's umbrella of patents (or share).
But if buy patents, ChanBond's part is over unless license with royalty.
But that introduces many other complications--Audits, public, private, sales, units, etc.
Deja Vu? If settle, CableLabs may contribute $ too.
So-called self-imposed standard vs. RF Channel improvement and infringement.
These are NOT all CableLabs patents. Any reference to CL then included.
Hundreds of different patent creators.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=cablelabs&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PTXT
CableLabs has been discussed before. Just not going to try to find posts.
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Also, getting worldwide will be tough.
Lastly, not a big fan of "May, Might, Possibly".
Nothing really to discuss because hypothetical at this point.
Great research & info. Thank you LT. Just not there yet.
Need trial date to see how MSOs play their hand(s).
Good thing, doesn't feel like that 2 me.
We are laymen.
One would have to surmise,
Inventors: Hennenhoefer; Earl (Harrisburg, PA), Snyder; Richard V. (Harrisburg, PA), Stine; Robert D. (Dillsburg, PA)
know if their patents have been infringed.
They know all the scientific, electrical and technical gobbledygook in 100% detail.
Plus, Billy has spent $3-4M+ and counting with $5M payment approaching.
Let's do it. GO! GO! GO!
Thought was client's (BC's) idea.
Why are you pressing these 5 claims that is causing this problem in the first place? Whitman stammered on that one- basically saying we just want to do it. Judge kept pressing him on it- Whitman finally relented and said he would discuss it with his client. The other side agreed, if these claims were not being appealed, they were OK with that. But if ChanBond wanted to continue with the appeal, that is their basis for the stay request. (I question the ChanBond strategy for the appeal as well).
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Patents (Claims) R like contracts: What's written counts!
All I know is... It's the written word that matters.
Each patent is based on it's own merits.
Think Mishcon should brush off and if defense brings up ('822), just say, defined one of the original patents more broadly.
'822 = 24 times (Broad claims)
'679 = 116 times (Specific & detailed claims) = 100%
'565 = 99 times (Specific & detailed claims) = 100%
It's going to boil down to CDMA, cell, cable, RF Channel and those interpretations and differentiations, if do not settle.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=150440414
Also, think many MSOs want to distant themselves from Comcast, but if one settles, gives ChanBond stronger hand.
We're getting down to the finals soon.
May lose a battle, but must win the war.
It was a lost cause BA, at least, IMO, for what that's worth. ???
RF must be explicitly written in the claims.
Cannot imply.
As long as WIN THE WAR.
I wish they just conceded on '822 and we'd be closer or have trial date.
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GM Troopers & B-Ball fans. T-20 to Sum Judgmt
Yes, as long as "Deemed" Infringed.
Lots to read. Still perusing.
Plus, it's Saturday so games are on and relaxing.
Will get through more articles but "Standard-Essential Patents" (SEP) appear to be debatable.
Plus, didn't follow other stock mentioned.
Taking it one hurdle at a time,
Thanks, Standard Scruffer
P.S. Anything is possible.
HF Have Never Been Less Bullish On COMM
Good call & reminder AJ.
And to that,
Selling promotes (or the perception of) selling; likewise, buying promotes buying.
We could pass the all-time low (but never know--some in too deep).
The 52-week low = 9.52 (which think is all-time).
Rocki was tracking and reporting. Thanks Rock.
DUMP, DUMP, DUPED, Scruff
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hedge-funds-never-less-bullish-205717579.html
And as always, TY Dilly & GoodBuddy.
We've got one heck of a team.
Still waiting on some type of UOIP, Inc. info as a private stakeholder.
It'd be nice to receive a certified letter or secured email.
Maybe one day.
Also, less than 1 year until 10/27/2020, when $5M due or $25/month interest.
Bring on the trial date.
Nap time.