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I had the same thought diskman. I think he'd like nothing better then to have someone buy all his shares.
Thanks trding. Very interesting and I don't know what to make of it.
2 different companies one public (the one we're in) and one private. Same name. Our public company has no relationship with the private one. Only thing they have in common is Bill Smith is involved with both of them.
Trding, I was determined to get to the bottom of this XLPI/Xcelplus confusion. Here is Bill & my correspondence just now:
Me:Me again. Someone on the BB pointed out this link: https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/XLPI/quote
XLPI
Xcelplus International, Inc.
If they are separate entities as you were saying this morning can you see why there would be confusion?
Bill: They are separate entities 2003 to 2007 we worked xlpi public.... in 2013 i had a specialty tech company private that found a way to slow down the flame/burn rate of H2... created private Xcelplus to one day make a seamless transition into a pubco.... they were never and or this day not affiliated... confusion not intentional... this was suggested years ago as a way to move the tech into a pubco...
the issue with Xlpi public is the cost to straighten it out...so until i have that way nothing will happen.... as you should be able to see as anyone can see neither company has posted as a press release any news of moving forward, merging or anything especially until a couple of tweaks to the tech are done again private company...
my ASE master mechanic just retired from a major race team and is selling his own dragster... we are working on an unrelated project but he will be the person to engineer the process for engines for us...up until now no one on the planet knew what we private company is doing except for things we have posted except our insiders... again at this moment none of this has any thing to do with xcelplus xlpi...so I can't help what people read into things.
Bill: Some one saw we had a reference to xlpi in the FB page it has been corrected I post nothing related to xcelplus xlpi in that page I dobhave shareholder in that companybthatvfollow it... we had another one FB page that is but I guess they left some old things up cleaning it all up.. so to clarify XLPI the pubcos has nothing to post as news since 2007.
Me: Ok, I guess. I'm still trying to understand how XLPI has Xcelplus International right in it's name (as it's listed and trading), but is a totally different company from the Xcelplus you are working on that is private. Bottom line there are 2 companies that are called Xcelplus, one public and one private?
Bill: Yes right answer there are many companies like this across the world
Me: Yuk. OK, thanks. Anything you want to add?
Bill: Nupe kinda busy today
Well, I really didn't want to clear up the confusion about XLPI & XcelPlus because it's not to my benefit, but I have to live with myself. So, Bill Smith is as clueless as us as to what's going on. On the other hand something very much is going on or XLPI wouldn't have started trading. Apparently FINRA does have rules that need to be followed or XLPI couldn't trade. The mystery deepens.
Trding, please understand XcelPlus & XLPI are 2 totally different things.
From my "interview" this morning:
Not taking XLPI private, taking the private XcelPIus public some day through a Reverse IPO or acquisition by a pubco
...there is a private company based on this planet named XcelPlus that will release a few technologues soon and it will merge with a publicly traded company some day.
We have a plasma physicist involved as well as a PhD in syntax texhnologies specializing in The hydrogen atom on board... I've released this info publicly so none of this is confidential info... since that company is private you can't even buy stock in it at this point.
Is this starting to make sense... at this point none of what im doing has anything to do with XLPI on the OTC
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Sure, private companies don't have to worry about all this. Did I get these things right. XLPI (which trades publicly) does not own XcelPlus (which is Private) will come Public someday. You are still a Principle of XLPI and have never sold a share of XLPI. You can't right now anyway due to restrictions. There is no merger that you know of between XLPI and CPWY and you would know because you're a Principle owner.
Does XLPI still have any assets?....
No to assets that have value today... when Parsons took over XPGH he divested most of the fuel texhnologues and such back to XLPI. They took the waste glycerin based fuel and sold it to asphalt companies made $9 million in sales... since those days all fuel subsidies are gone making the fuels worthless... we had a flex fuel conversion technology we licensed but even that industry is dormant
Sure to post...most of this news was posted way back in 04-08
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Great I hope we all make money. You're still the CEO of XLPI so how in the heck can someone get this trading on the Pinks again since XLPI has to meet requirements of FINRA without you knowing about it?
He asked humbly.
I keep saying I have no clue because to my knowledge it can't be done.... but XLPI is not the only one Im buying a California pubco that was a grey as well about the same time it became a pink stop...so must be an OCT thing... (Correction: he meant OTC).
Truth, do you have any theories on how XLPI got trading on the Pinks without Bill's knowledge?
Bill Smith is the CEO of XLPI. He has lots of ideas for different companies. My text with him this morning pretty much turned into an interview. It will explain a lot so please read closely:
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Hey are you the guy that recorded our conversation then posted it on investorshub??
Yes. Pretty sure you're pissed at me.
Naw you arent the first..
I keep a running transcript of all my texting with everybody.
Did you see the trading at the end of the day on Friday?
I see all you guys running trying to find answers... I really have no clue what's going on... let me pass you a nugget... clean Energy Pathways doesn't have anything to do with this either... I brought in a new CEO for XPGH back on 2006, Michael Parsons took over as CEO, he screwed things up, but also made some huge $9mm sales of a fuel we developed... later he would the shell (federal tax subsidies went away for the fuel) and someone bought it as we all do and changed the name to CPWY... again nobties or affiliation with XLPI..
I'm actually looking to buy that shell as well as a few hundred others for a crypto currency company I have.
Not really were launching a new CBD/CBN product line right now.... also launching a ship this year once I complete the acquisition of a German Technology, taking a cryptocurrency company public around the end of the year... taking over a chemical company in Texas... so I don't have time to watch XLPI...
So you're more interested in buying CPWY as a shell someday than XPLI and there is no connection? Dang, and no merger between CPWY & XLPI? I haven't had my coffee yet
No merger between the two the only plan for xlpi is to bring some products to market that are disruptive ....
Would probably if I can buy CPWY would be to put some other technologies I've been vetting for the last few years into it... I have my hands into new solar tech, microgrid, and new power distribution technologies they don't fit the business model I set for XLPI back in 2003
What I don't understand (I didn't exactly major in business transactions). When you were talking about taking XLPI private - Don't you have to buy all the shares to do that? Also, when you were talking about merging with some company> I'm confused.
And, if you have to buy all the shares the fact that they've run up a little wouldn't that make it too expensive to take it private?
All that was a someday thing and not imminent.
Not taking XLPI private, taking the private XcelPIus public some day through a Reverse IPO or acquisition by a pubco
...there is a private company based on this planet named XcelPlus that will release a few technologues soon and it will merge with a publicly traded company some day.
We have a plasma physicist involved as well as a PhD in syntax texhnologies specializing in The hydrogen atom on board... I've released this info publicly so none of this is confidential info... since that company is private you can't even buy stock in it at this point.
Is this starting to make sense... at this point none of what im doing has anything to do with XLPI on the OTC
Oh. I thought XLPI was just the symbol for XcelPlus. There's no connection?
Also for any company on any stock market to go back to being a private company... all they have to do is file a delisting form and the stock comes out of DTC and the symbol dissapears and they are now a private company...
you dont have to buy any shares back... done all the time.
Because getting publicly traded is quite a task today with FINRA and such
. But then it's a full time job just to stay public... that's why there are over 7000 companies on the OTC that are dormant today.
Nope none at all
OK, so you still have shares in XLPI so can we talk about an abstract company? What's to stop a person buying a non trading stock (lets call it ABCD) It's not trading so he can buy all the shares available and gets a MM to start offering for trade. He then sells his $.0001 shares as it is now trading on the Pinks and he (or she) can now make a fortune. Would FINRA allow this?
No
FINRA has requirements to start and stay trading on the PINKS. I would think this has to be published Publicly. Is this right?
The company and it as principles are always in control..
There are Transfer Agents who hold all of the paperwork on behalf of the company they charge about 2000 to 4000bper year based on transactions.... market makers only work on behalf of the company not the shareholders... a MM when you place an order must buy shares at a discount in order to fill your order.. they are nice enough fellows buy they work for commission or fees..
NONE of this applies to private companies
Sure, private companies don't have to worry about all this. Did I get these things right. XLPI (which trades publicly) does not own XcelPlus (which is Private) will come Public someday. You are still a Principle of XLPI and have never sold a share of XLPI. You can't right now anyway due to restrictions. There is no merger that you know of between XLPI and CPWY and you would know because you're a Principle owner.
Does XLPI still have any assets?
Yes to everything at this point
OK to post?
I now own 5.5 million shares of XLPI now, but it wasn't me buying on Friday.
No to assets that have value today... when Parsons took over XPGH he divested most of the fuel texhnologues and such back to XLPI. They took the waste glycerin based fuel and sold it to asphalt companies made $9 million in sales... since those days all fuel subsidies are gone making the fuels worthless... we had a flex fuel conversion technology we licensed but even that industry is dormant
Sure to post...most of this news was posted way back in 04-08
I win I have more... shares than anyone involved can ever own...
Yeah, I remember the flex-fuel conversion from back then. I thought it was a good idea at the time.
Sold a few hundred thousand $$ worth to a company selling mini trucks to US air force...then shipped a bunch to various parts of the world
Great I hope we all make money. You're still the CEO of XLPI so how in the heck can someone get this trading on the Pinks again since XLPI has to meet requirements of FINRA without you knowing about it?
He asked humbly.
I keep saying I have no clue because to my knowledge it can't be done.... but XLPI is not the only one Im buying a California pubco that was a grey as well about the same time it became a pink stop...so must be an OCT thing...
OCT?
No one but me to my knowledge can do it because the Board of Directors (That's me today) and or C-level executives (That's me again) must do filings on behalf of the corporation with OTC/FINRA.... none of this has been done.. the filing fee that the State of Nevada wants is over $10,000 alone Transfer Agent reinstatement $4000.
The California shell I can buy for $7000 ready to go... so economics play a roll in all of this
OTC... i screw up the CBD with CDB in one of our other projects fat fingers
Sorry, I don't understand the nomenclature. The mystery as to how the XLPI stock is trading just gets deeper. How the person started it trading and how it benefits them makes it even more mysterious.
OK guys & gals. I was lucky enough to have Bill clear some things up on what's happening. He said it was ok to post. Can anyone tell me how to post a .png here?
None of them mine.
https://web.tmxmoney.com/quote.php?qm_symbol=XLPI:US
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02/21/2020 3:58 PM EST 0.0024 10000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:57 PM EST 0.0023 19740 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:57 PM EST 0.0023 10260 OTCPK
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02/21/2020 3:50 PM EST 0.0023 254740 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:49 PM EST 0.0022 335260 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:49 PM EST 0.0021 150000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:49 PM EST 0.002 10000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:45 PM EST 0.0016 30000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:45 PM EST 0.002 23800 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:45 PM EST 0.002 100000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:45 PM EST 0.002 100000 OTCPK
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02/21/2020 3:44 PM EST 0.002 76200 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:44 PM EST 0.0019 50000 OTCPK
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02/21/2020 3:41 PM EST 0.0019 20000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:41 PM EST 0.0019 100000 OTCPK
02/21/2020 3:41 PM EST 0.0019 10000 OTCPK
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02/21/2020 3:40 PM EST 0.0019 10000 OTCPK
A 1 month chart of CPWY for what it's worth.
https://tinyurl.com/tddhge8
Could my 5.5M shares ACTUALLY pay off. I'd be surprised as hell. I could learn to live with it though.... :¦»
Not me. Nice to see it up.
Tab, I can't private reply, check out my post #14810.
Still here. I lose my day trader status because of XLPI, but that's fine. My shares (all 6.5M) are in a virtual shoe box until something happens. I'd really be surprised if anything happened right away after communicating with Bill (posted earlier).
Looks like you have some reading to do if you really want to know. This was a dead stock for 12 years. Might want to start with post #14684
OK, NOW I'm done buying. 5m@.003511 with 5k in $Apps. TDAmeritrade sent me something and called me yesterday to make sure someone didn't call and solicit me on this stock. Glad they're watching out for me.
I declare myself of totally worthless stocks. Going for 5 million here.
Bought some more.
Haven't bought or sold any today. $ROKU is continuing to not cooperate so I can't add the 920,000 I want to so I'll have an even 5M. Once I do I'll just put the shares in a virtual shoebox until there's some action.
Still pent up demand to sell obviously.
Well, my guess yesterday was an open of $.0065. At least that's the ask at 8:35 AM
xgin Monday, 02/17/20 10:05:02 PM
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Too bad we can't start a pool as to what it will open at. There's still a lot of people that have been stuck here for 12 years and just want out. I say it opens with a first trade at $.0065.
So if I might ask how many shares at what average do you have Bullish? Or are you planning on getting in on the action Tuesday?
Too bad we can't start a pool as to what it will open at. There's still a lot of people that have been stuck here for 12 years and just want out. I say it opens with a first trade at $.0065.
I think the CEO does have plans for this company. I see we're up to 109 followers now. Wouldn't be surprised if it's double that by the end of the day Tuesday.
Why do I have a "feeling" that I won't be able to pick up many more shares under $.005 tomorrow?
He'll probably never talk to me again.
Yes I did go there, but didn't read every article. I did not see that statement there. I did post from a text that Bill said he hasn't sold a single share though.
I haven't purchased a share since that exchange BTW as that exchange took place yesterday (Sunday).
Wish I had private nessageing.
Bill would probably be pissed if he saw this.
Bill: Don't know about the trading for real... the product however is about to come back online... the inventor is 82 and has a back issue and his son thay ran the company, had a car wreck a little over a year ago and still suffers some brain damage... they want me to take over administration of the company and marketing... we're negotiating now.
Me: Could this be considered insider information and we could get in trouble?
Bill: Nope cause it will be in the private company until there is some sort of merger somewhere in the future... but keep it to yourself
Bill: Will announce dealer listing next few months Xcelplus (non public entity)
Me: Ok. Not sure what that means - what happens to all the XLPI shares if it becomes a non public entity? They all get bought? If so that could explain the sudden trading of shares by people unknown.
Me: If that is right, than someone who knew you were negotiating (and without your knowledge) probably decided to take action. Hmmm. Interesting.
Bill: Nope in control of when a merger or if a merger happens... can't say again sobdibe guessing as I'm quite busy painting a bathroom and such... sorry I have no information to pass along
Have a link for Bill's statement?
I was checking to see if all the people that have been holding shares from 12 years ago had sold as soon as they got a chance. Holding 4,080,000. I tried to make it an even 4.5M on Friday, but only 80k filled.
Everyone who has been stuck in these shares are selling. I'm interested to see what happens when those shares are all gone.
Probably buying more. After talking to Bill I think there may be hope for this company yet. Might take a while though.
"Will announce dealer listing next few months Xcelplus (non public entity)"
Me: "Ok. Not sure what that means - what happens to all the XLPI shares if it becomes a non public entity? They all get bought? If so that could explain the sudden trading of shares by people unknown."
He swears he doesn't know who started the trading of the shares. My guess is someone found out he still has plans for the company and decided to take action. TOTALLY a guess on my part.
Number of shares: https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/XLPI/security
Talking to Bill about XLPI:
"Don't know I'm working on the tech to put in XLPI my original plan was to Get the price up to a substantial and sustainable level in order to build a real company with real products... ibnever pumped and dumped never sold even 1 share of mine... can't say what the ex-wife has done but that's up to her... I will one day tell the story of XLPI and what was learned through this process... an investment group and I are launching a company to own over 200 to 1000 pubcos... XLPI won't be one of them...."
So, I'm probably the largest shareholder here so I should pump, but I want to try this scenario. You buy every share that that you can lay your hands on like my GTC order, get people trading, and than sell all those shares you bought for $.0001? However, with that scenario shares would need to trade for at least a few days? Is that what's going on here?
I'm doing this all a little backwards, but I've never tried to get a text messages from my phone to here before.
He said: "Go down to section "What are the conditions of Rule 144? Section 3 Trading Volume Formula"
https://www.sec.gov/reportspubs/investor-publications/investorpubsrule144htm.html
May very well be, but nobody knows. I talked with the CEO, Bill Smith who said he was painting his bathroom when he found out the shares were trading again. I told him I had bought quite a few of the shares and I want to quote from his text message: "I guess but who did all the buying of the 41 million shares of trading?? And who started it?? Oh well one day I'll get a NOBO list and find out."
And this on whether it was him: "K hope this helps people see what is truth vs opinion... if ib used yesterdays volume and back 90 days remember it's the average of those 90 days... but even so if I used the volume of Friday I could have net $1350 ish... if I had free trading shares which I dont... the tradeability letter cost 250 to 500$, the cert exchange with the TA another 150 plus since I am a control person and then would have had to have it already in the account to trade... so I'm waiting like everyone else for a price of 10K $ per share... lol thanks"
You know Pure, I tried to have my 30k declared worthless and TD Ameritrade wouldn't do it. They said they still had value. That's when I put in my GTC order. Now I'm kinda glad they didn't write them off.