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Longs getting out
It seems that people are starting to finally get the big picture here.
I have gotten 4 e-mail and 5 private messages here on Ihub that thanked me for my time, and my interest. The gist of all, if I would summmm it up, is "I wish I would have listened to you at .40, and I'm sorry for all the abuse you've taken. you were right"
Now, while that might give me a small amount of satisfaction, it is NOT why I'm here. I hate the idea that the jarvis crew can do this repeatedly. Hire a new front man, reverse split from 10,000 to one, make outrageous claims in a new industry (the latest hot fad, from paintballs to lawn care to fiber optics to oil ) and sucker in a new crew of willing greedy small time players, and do it legally.
I also find it humorous that I have gotten three e-mails from people saying that they were lightening up, half, a third or whatever, only to let me know three days later that the objectivity that comes from having a much smaller position has helped them to see the forest for the trees, and that no honest company would keep so silent after making such huge claims.
I think you'll find that shares outstanding are huge, and that this company, while real in the sense of got a building and people answering the phones, was a coordinated attempt the get money from people by making outrageous claims, selling stock into the buying itnerest and then outfitting their shop with the newly minted shares sold for cash.
This is my prediction:
shareholders will get news of a reverse split and be left holding one share for each 10,000 currently held. Just like litfiber.
At any rate I've tired of watching my small investment wither on the vine, and have contacted a friend at the SEC to look into these shenanigans. We should hear pretty soon about that, too.
BTW has anyone gotten their dividend yet?
LOL
how about that buyout, how's that coming. I bet the negotiations are tense! A BIDDING WAR!!!
LOL
These are all wildly speculative opinions, and not anchored in reality whatsoever. I'm sure that Jim Dial is completely honest and is acting in his fiduciary responsibility at all times.
BUYOUT!!!
what a joke
peeker, how truly apropos this mention is....
real lyrics of the song, "the boxer" (partial)
Ive squandered my resistance for a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest, lie lie lie lie lie
(the chorus?)
"lie lie lie, lie lie lie la la la la lie"
Great point peeker!
VERY APPROPRIATE
well your rules allow for someone to be lied to, the story to be completely misrepresented, and the absolute wrong "take" on the situaion, to be conveyed.
But the rules do not allow for someone to say "you are lying, and misrepresenting", and "you are wrong" because somehow that's a personal attack when in reality it's just a truth.
I guess you're the "new king" here. and you have power. There have been people acting deplorably here, including me at times. I have accepcted, and admitted that.
BBB says "it's inevitable that the phoenix will rise from the ashes, they're proftiable, we'll get those dividend shares"
and that's allowed
but I say 'you're wrong' and his post stays and mine is gone.
great rules
hey lentinman
no one may pass judgement?
no one may hold anyone responsible for the ludicrous statements they have made?
The abuse, ridicule, names I have been called are ok But I cannot make a statement about how someone looks at the mirror for the deceipt lies and disingenuousness for the past 18 months. As long as it's "kill the shorts" "those nasty MM holding down the share price" then hey, let's criticize. But Dr Bill says, "kill that BBB for the destruction he has caused in personal ports, er, rather hold him responsible" and I'm deleted again and again????
this is still a one sided board as long as the "shorts bad" arguments are allowed to propagate and the "longs good" is staying, but the "pumper WRONG longs" are deleted!
ALL IMO but I should be able to say
" how the heck can you still post here with your dismal record of being wrong wrong wrong and still expect people to believe you and your lies????" !!!!!!!!!!!!
I KNOW!!!!!!!
This company making stupid nonsense PR's about some BS dividend, some absolutely ridiculous "multiple buyout offers" and expecting people to actually believe that crap is a REALLLLLLLLY BAD JOKE.
Holy crap I got my dividend shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT
SHORT SELLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(now I've heard it all)
COINCIDENCE!
oh boy
PROFITABLE!
LOL
Has anyone recieved their shares of CTBG in the spinout transaction that was promised by dialer and virtually guaranteed by BBB and the others?
OH MY GOD!!!
LLIKE AS IN HOLY CRAPOLA!!!
LEONARD KOBLENZ
JARVIS
NEWMAN
KIRCH
These people have all been in bed together for a LONG time!!!
SCAM CENTRAL!
IMO
hitemp
I'm sorry that "ad hom" attacks are all that's left to you. It must be very frustrating. Maybe you should have listened when I told you there was no good reason for dialer NOT releasing the TA to verify share counts. Calling me an asshole isn't going to get your money back.
Holding Jim Dial accountable:
I have seen this used as an argument about why "money is safe" here, for a long time.
OF course ANYONE can be held accountable, yet people still do things wrong. But let's assume that dialer is smart enough to NOT break the law, or do something "wrong" for which he may be punished. Unlike any of the criminals who are in jail today, and anyone who has ever paid a fine, etc.
Has anyone ever tried to get the dialer on tape as having said there were only 39.5MM sos?
I would guess that Tx is a state where you can't use tape recorded evidence unless both parties know it's being tape recorded, so I would suggest that someone call Jim Dial and TELL HIM that you're taping the conversation, and then ASK HIM POINT BLANK how many shares are out, and see what happens.
My guess? The "dialer tone" but maybe not.
then again who's going to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to chase some guy down in texas who was smart enough to outsmart you?
how many complaints a year does the SEC get about pink sheet stocks and the "CEO"'s who run them? I would guess HUNDREDS if not more.....
this is going to get interesting from here out, all other things I say are opinion and not rooted in fact, BUT I GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL BE INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BASHER!!!!!
BTW VERY well thought out, and articulated. This is, IMO exactly what has happened.
Now why did you have go go and ruin it with such a great explanation????
It's more fun watching them run around like chickens with heads recently cut off, trying to fax dialer their share info, calling some randomly hired PR dude in Chicago who works out of his apartment, counting shares on public message boards, probably relentlessly calling all phone numbers they can find......
yep, you hit the nail right on the head IMO......
sadly some people here have "invested" MUCH more than they could have afforded to lose,
I sincerely wish they would have listened to me a year ago now when I first figured out form coversation with dialer, putting 2+2, that there were major problems. This was above .4 then......
now we're looking at .05 when the div doesn't come tomorrow
buyout! What a gas! hardy har har
strongus, first of all, yes I will be happy for longs as can be. If lucky, I'll ride the tide a little myself. Probably make some money. Even if not, I'll be glad to dance you a happy dance and be glad that you all didn't get fast-talked. (you know the best thing about a fast talker is that he always appears to be talking slow, ya know?)
secondly, which promises are you referring to?
The one about the July first delivery date of shares of CTBG?
here's a deal, if they don't give you those shares will you admit that I might be right? That maybe I've seen this before, and maybe I know WTF I'm talking about?
Because, although this is my opinion, there is no way in hell that that dividend is going to occur. Don't you think BBB with all his inside scoop and cell phone of the CEO and everything, would be here crowing about "just another day the phoenix will rise from the ashes" or some such BS?
The SEC hasn't, as far as I'm aware, even declared those shares effective yet.
So will you be here when this doesn't happen on the 1st of July?
well, good for you. the person I spoke with was either smarter than the one you spoke with, or completely wrong. Although I did go through more than one step. A couple forms, a couple phone calls.
Maybe you should all grab your certs. Maybe they're numbered.
peeker I wish I had even a little faith...
I do expect, however, another pump job real soon. As in, something like,
we're going to distribute that stock dividend, but it's delayed until Aug 1st and opps we were wrong about the no ex-dividend date. The ex-dividend date according to our best intentions will be July 31st, and shareholders up until that date will get the dividend. WARNING THIS IS A FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENT BLAHBLAHBLAH
thus another increase in stock price and another opportunity to sell more shares.
ALL IMO, of course
Microvolt T-Wave Alternans Testing To Be Covered by CIGNA HealthCare
6/28/2006 5:57:01 PM
BEDFORD, Mass., Jun 28, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Cambridge Heart, Inc. ( CAMH ) today announced that CIGNA HealthCare has revised its Coverage Position on Microvolt T Wave Alternans testing, agreeing to make it a covered benefit for its beneficiaries. The Coverage Position now states:
"CIGNA HealthCare covers microvolt T-wave alternans (MTWA) testing as a method to identify risk of ventricular arrhythmias and sudden cardiac death for patients who meet criteria for implantable cardioverter defibrillator placement."
CIGNA HealthCare is one of the nations leading providers of healthcare benefits covering over 12 million people across the country.
"We are very pleased that after reviewing all of the published literature on Cambridge Heart's system, including last month's publication in JACC by Dr. Theodore Chow, CIGNA has recognized the benefit that MTWA can provide to their beneficiaries," said David Chazanovitz, President and CEO of Cambridge Heart, Inc. "The utilization of our diagnostic test in patients eligible for implantable defibrillator therapy is becoming more and more important as physicians work to provide the most appropriate individualized care for their patients."
Peeker, that's because IMO there isn't going to be any dividend distribution.
EVER
hank,
that's because IMO, Grifco exists to sell shares to the unsuspecting believing public. They bought a lathe or two, rented a metal building, blah blah blah.
grifco owners don't own anmything besides paper, or, they own 1/200,000,000th of it
again, IMO
but this is getting uglier
LENTINMAN
is that post of BBB not a duplicate of the last one he made (or at least one of the last 5 he made here?
He's making dup's all over the place I think.
isn't that a violation of the rules?
yes peeker I'm sure that you would love to have the people who are extremenly bearish on dialer and friends, (for good reason IMO like as in not publishing share counts or authorizing the TA to do the same, or release certs) have one say, and that's it. No more asking the tough questions.
It would certainly allow the true believers unimpeded access to the uninitiated, the new meat, possibly allowing them to pump even more people into this money pit. Might even give the the opportunity to air their conspiracy theories of naked shorts bloated share counts by illegal and nefarious means rather than the highly probable, completely legal means of printing new shares to sell for working capital.
But then again, if the conspiracy theorists and paid pumpers are allowed to keep on rehashing unlikely and illegal reasons for a CEO to repeatedly disregard shareholder wishes, then I guess the "reasonable" crowd will still have their say, any time they want, as many times as the longs are allowed to.....
that's my opinion
and as long as I'm allowed to, I will continue to ask the difficult questions
why will dialer NOT publish the share counts? Why is the tranfer agent NOT allowed to give shareholders rightful information?
WHY???????????????????
thats all I want to know
it wasn't a sarcastic response- it was and is the most legitmate issue with this company
I was told that the shares weren't available to get certs either
imagine that,!!!!
Ameritrade told me that they cannot get certs from the transfer agent!!!!!!!!!!!
Why won't Jim Dial release them?
that's all I want to know
must be because they've all been naked shorted!!
what a hoot
3gracer
does the catalog include reasoning why dialer won't release the TA to allow shareholders to see the shares outstanding?
I'll participate, too
95,000 shares
The disparity very strongly implies that there are at the very least 17 million shorted shares, assuming there are no more retail shares out there in trade land for which to account, which there are -- obviously, we cannot discount the possibility.
BBB rather than look for some conspiracy why not address the fact that what you're finding more strongly implies that grifter's international and the murphy brown character the dialer have printed many many more shares than they admit?????
Face it, Warren Buffet's friend, Jack Byrne has a kid that is the CEO of a publicly traded company that actually reports. Share in his stock supposedly are loaned at 107% the SOS, something like 4X the float. They are having a cert grabing fiesta over there and still there's nothing that the regulators and the SEC want to do about it. If you think that a nobody like dialer and this comapany which ridiculously won't even let the TA verify how many shares are out, can "squeeze the shorts" when the richest man in the world's friends cannot do it, you're not thinking clearly....
BTW
buffet said, to the shorts, go right ahead and naked short my company. I give you permission to sell and sell and sell all the shares you want. mint them a million a day if you want.
gives one pause don't it?
jim dial the 10 cent master won't even tell his owners how many shares in the pile. geeze you got a smoke job IMO
all IMO
nofortunateson
Microsoft went public march 13 1986 for 29 per share. They NEVER traded on the pink's or the OTCBB. People were saying at the time, that it was wildly overpriced.
the .14 quotes that people give are due to split adjusted price
they were a real company, with real assets, and a real accounting team, that didn't have anyting to hide, therefore they would not have dreamed of doing a revers merger into an empty shell. Most of the companies with nothing to hide do it this way.....
i did not say I thought the ad was fake. I said in my post that it probably wasn't.
Does anyone actually read the stuff I write BEFORE criticizing it?
BUT,
the fact that they have a machine shop, the fact that they are allegedly hiring a manager for the shop (what happened to the old one? was there a manager or weren't they big enough yet? I thought they had 6000 tools who managed that process?- hmm all these peesky questions that no one else besides me thinks of) the fact that they ahd a truck picking up stuff is IRRELEVANT to whether or not you will EVER get a higher price for your stock.
REPEAT: it is almost completely irrelevant to your stock price, if they are actually generating revenue. IF they've sold 190 million shares of stock you're stuck here in the .10 range forever, or lower. maybe much lower. That's the point, and Jim Dial won't tell you officially. That's the problem and why I'm not buying back in again until that issue is solved/resolved
strongus, the only thing that I can think to say, is that people were calling it a firesale, when it went below .30 for the first time.
I think that there are some people who are long this stock since the original jet motor ad, that are down tens of thousands of dollars. I would guess that it's well worth $$$ to attempt to buy some credibility, and post a job at monster. The yahoo address is a big clue that it might not be "grifco" or, another take might be that they are trying to distance themselves from dialer, and don't want him invoved in any hiring procedures.
It's getting to be common that companies who want some "unofficial" news getting out to place a well worded want ad at monster, career builder, etc to give the appearance of "busyness", growth etc. I am not saying that this is the case, but then again it's not proof of anything. They might be doing manufacturing great guns trying to get to the 2% utilization rate that BBB was so all fired up about. And the fact that they need manufacturing help if this is real ad, and really from grifco, doesn't mean that that aren't dividing up any small profits among 200MM shares or more......
we'll see
lentinman
I got your message and I agree. I would just request the change and see what happens
strongus,
first of all, given ANY news there are going to be people who will sell any time the stock gets back to .40, happy as crap to be getting out of this mess even. So that will slow the trading down at that level for a day or at least a few hours. Secondly, given their repeated performance of pumps with no substance, driving the share price up for a few hours at best, there are people who will read cautiously anything that seems to be a legitimate PR, and then decide whther to buy or not. This stock will never do a gap to, say a double on open. If we got news today stating a buyout has occurred for $1.40 I believe given the history of this stock it would still onyl open at .2 or so, and then slimb slowly over the course of a day or three. I might be wrong but the consequence of not waiting is seeing your money bleed day by day. There will be more people selling as we get down below .10 when the July 1(or 3rd, mon) date comes and goes and there's no dividend in their account.
People will sell, and the 25 cent dividend be damned. Sorry .25 dividend that you probably won't be able to sell for at least 3 months be damned.
Don't forget that BBB thinks that the share prices haven't been reflected (the "no ex dividend date" theory) which means in all liklihood the share price of CTBG doesn't reflect the 8 for one dilution that is coming if the SEC declares those 75 MM share effective.
Yeah I reiterate that if anything does come of this, EVER, that there will plenty of time to sort it out and ride it up from at the very highest .25.
strongus, this whole "take it on the chin" thing is getting out of hand. I'm going to be happy as crap for a couple of the people here if it doesn't turn out the way it looks like it's going to. And if anything good comes out Im riding the train up with yall you can believe that 1000%
thanks
fear of his life?
clever, you're a little off the deep end on this one. Jarvis has done much worse, more times and he's not hiding in fear of his life!
This is all probably a big mistake, and dialer didn't know what he was getting into. I don't think this was a master plan to scam investors from the beginning. I think one thing led to the next, and well, you know the rest.
With all the pressure by shareholders, lyamec, probably giffith and swinford, all it would take is ONE PR. ONE LITTLE SENTENCE FROM THE TRANSFER AGENT VERIFYING THAT THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 39 MILLION SHARES PRINTED AND SOLD, AND WHO OWNS WHAT OF THIS INSIDER/FLOAT.
and he won't
there's something behind that, and I think it's Jarvis still had access to the cusip or something like that, he still had ability to print shares and sell them. The website information is more light in that direction.
Your not being told the whole story, clever. I'm sorry but there's no other way to look at it. IMO of course.....
Use commonsense.
Great point.
Commonsense says that the venezuela trip, the al haig show, the mystery merger that we never heard boo about again, the jet motor making 2 Million per month (what a f'ing joke that was), the China deal, Libya groundbreaking all the other things that turned out to be patently false, are just like this buyout. Nonsense.
Jim Dial will not let the transfer agent verify to any party, any shareholders, any "investor (ack) relations" person what the share count is, how many shares have been printeed and sold. There is NO other good reason other than there's something to hide in that information. Period.
When I found that out, is when I got 100% behind the scam angle of this stock about a year ago.
strongus, for the love of Pete, STOP DELETING POSTS THAT DON'T BREAK THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
len,
youre down on the stock,
strongus is long the stock and really down from where he bought
sparky the board ______ (insert your own word here), is down on you and insults you
therefore, sparky is on strongus side, enemy of my enemy is my friend (hater of stock hater, is my fellow teammate long, in this case) and he won't delete his post because it's down on you!
meawhile you're probably not skinning his nose any, he just hits the delete button and chuckles
I wouldn't call this wild west,
now once upon a time BBB made a , well we'll leave that in deleted brokeback history, so matt doesn't get mad.
maybe matt will delete strongus for ramming legitimate posts
lentinman,
I agree! there wasn't anything wrong with your post, against any kind of rules whatsoever! Neither was my post!
Strongus is down on his stock purchase and doesn't want criticism of his company, his stock, or his chart of his stock to even be seen IMO!
This is strange!