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Say Hello to the Bottom....
There you go quickpix...get'em while there hot and a tenth of cent...take advantage of that huge dump this afternoon...
welcome to the party pal.
updated my post...
Sorry for the alarm.
Section 9...updated
I have to say, I told you so...it's there, and it tastes like broken glass...hard to swallow...good or bad to follow?
I would surmise that the reason they will not talk about it, or acknowledge it (which is tantamount to lying; which they have done on numerous occasions) is because there must be further legal gymnastics to follow, otherwise there would be no reason for the court to allow this to be withheld from the public, investors or in their reporting (so to speak).
ABB may have rolled on their competition for a slap on the wrist...at least that's what it looks like.
You're burnt on the edges...
"News on various contracts will be coming out any time now. "
That's BS without any substantiation...classic pumper tactic...it is too easy to call gains when this thing is scraping the bottom...gimme a break...I'm on your side (only because logic dictates), so there's no need to try and dazzle us with your crap...a monkey with a dart board could call the same stuff you are...
You're not schooling anybody here...relax and stop posting to yourself
They re-upped thier purchase...
i.e. they expanded their order...nothing else...and that's old news.
Very Easy...
"My how easy it is to manipulate this share price."
That's why quickpix is laying out the PR...past history will show you that this stick is so very weak that it only takes a PR to move the price and make some money intraday...this is NOT a ride for the long investor, it's made for cashing on the spikes...
it's not a buy driven by fundamentals, it's an opportunistic place to park some cash for a SHORT period of time...the PPS history is an open book.
Smelly business...
"Any opinion as to it's (ABB settlement) future impact on the company and PPS?"
It's going to play out over a long slow quite pace..so you could say it will matter very little to the PPS.
As you know, my friend, there's only so much I can let loose here :0)
I wish I could respond to this...
"To get back on track...MrF...you refer to other movement going on inside the company regarding the ABB settlement. What type of movement? "
But it's way more than I can spell out in this forum, without serious consequences.
Glad to see the memory has'nt faded...
Yeah, it's a lot of the same with some of the usual twisting of phrasing in there (I could really sort out the facts there), but I'm glad see some of you are seeing through the smoke.
As for ABB, the court case is over, and the legal settlement has been made, BUT full and complete restitution is not just a matter of cash...the fact that there is such a wall around the real core of the matter is a clear indicator of other movement. The fact that this is being entirely played behind closed doors is an affront.
This is the type of leadership that looks out for themselves and inside investors...not the shareholder at large.
It's a slap in the face plain and simple...it's a F.U, now what are you going to do about it? Sell?...go right ahead...better for us to buy it back when it's next to nothing, and clear out the day/penny traders...and I'm not exaggerating.
I-Box Smack Down!
Oh spin, now that's the sh*t...oh man, no more coat-tailing for INRA's IR here...:0)
When they do, we'll both know :)
Check out Altserv.com again,
http://www.altserv.com/
Look at the models and brands that they service...tip number one, those major manufacturers DO NOT service or repair their products ( if I recall correctly no one else in the CNC biz does)...which means we just inherited all those service contracts...
tip number two...if you read further you will see that they are also on the verge of releasing a PC controller specifically for that market...if you put two and two together you'll see that through the customer service base (that we own), we also possess an audience who would be interested in that product...and that's a large target rich audience, mind you.
All that is right there in front of you on the company website.
Now do a little DD on the CNC service market and you might find some surprising numbers ripe for us to step into...
...just a little measure of some fundamentals....
Truly telling and disturbing article...really, REALLY hits close to "Home"...our situation is practically a template for that article...spooky accurate.
thanks for that post.
never mind...removed post
I called that months and months ago...
see message #1364 of 9/13/2006
Not to pile on here, but....
If you actually read the words in that PR you can decipher through "we plan to", "are working towards"...etc, etc...
Nothing about what we HAVE DONE...which is the kind of PR we need here...what we ARE DOING or HAVE DONE, and also NOT what our "partners" are doing either (as I have seen in other lecher PRs).
It's a long winded way of not saying very much at all.
Nice try Robo (or should I say INRA) :0)...I'm so very tired of the speaking engagements and alliances, that to date HAVE GONE NOWHERE AT ALL!....I mean really, after years of this, who do they think they are kidding anymore....?
A share holder meeting should be called (seriously)...and a lynching held soon there after...
Don't you wish you would have taken the blue pill (voted no at the meeting)?
...just poking a little fun...
Very True Weo...
As I said some time ago when this "zipped-lip" strategy was started, things will de-evolve in a vacuum, and elements will certainly start feeding on each other...it's human nature, and it's always going to happen in the absence of real developments to hang your hat on.
There may very well be a larger plan behind all this (because if you don't know, then you don't know)...BUT even if this stock rises like a Phoenix from the ashes, I am still absolutely certain that hindsight will still judge this silence maneuver as gravely irresponsible and even insidiously suspect to the average investor....
Even "if" it pays off, this is no way for proclaimed professionals to be running "OUR" company....it's amateur, sneaky, and dis-honest.
In reply to Demetri, who’s replied to Demetri, who then replies to Demetri some more…
Firstly, you do not have a clue what’s going on with ABB; so please stop posting conjecture presented as fact….it’s only your opinion, and you have proven more than a little fallible in the past….and your current hypothesis is complete crap.
Secondly, invest in some grammar software or dial down your meds long enough to compose a proper posting that doesn’t need translation by my 5 year old nephew…if you would like to be taken serious, try communicating with some tact and intelligence.
Thirdly, skeptics are welcome…you won’t find a bigger one than I, in that regard…but repeating your “presumptions” and “assumptions” does not make them true because no one cares to respond to them…it just makes them appear weak and seemingly desperate….Constantly responding to your own posts over and over again is like a child throwing a tantrum, crying for attention…
And lastly, some may have found that having another dissenting opinion around can have its value, and I would largely agree…but you have long overstayed and outlasted your usefulness. So do us a favor; find that rock you crawled out from under…pick it up, and drop it on your head.
Key quote from your article...
"Japan and Germany have had similar competitions for years and Australia recently launched its own Open."
...which was precisely my point :0)
Robot Soccer is very old...
Man, I really don't want to say this, but MS is Waaaaay late to this party.
There have been "swarming" soccer tournaments for over a decade now...MIT sponsored the first one. They have participants from all over the world.
Simulating this stuff is kids play next to the real thing.
If this is their starting point into the world of robotics, they really have a lot of work to do...
It's a humorous PR. IMO
scratching a hole in my head....
This is some smelly stuff...is it poo? is it not poo? or is it some mystery goo?
The communications thing started out one way, and it's now perverted into some kind of tool of manipulation. When the gut says there's something wrong....well, you know how that goes.
Don't know...
That just does not seem to make any sense...unless you want to depress the value of your company to keep it attractive to acquisition sharks...
And even if we do get acquired, shares will swap out at 'even' or 'below'...which is no good for longs, really.
We really need some performance out the company before we are going to see any performance out of the stock...acquisitions just are not going to increase the PPS substantially without fundamentals to back it up...
Me thinks, that they are nervous about loosing a large chunk of shareholders once this puppy bounces up....and you know what?...they would be right.
Which brings to mind a Question....
If I were to point a finger at the "other half" the problem I would have to say unequivocally that the company's IR firm and general Public Relations arm is freakin' broken!
Quite period or no, this has gotten so childish as to be beyond the pale....irresponsible, nonrespondent, MIA, totally useless...
This to me is a very, VERY serious problem and has to answered and addressed. It's foolish and plain "Fort Myer-ish"
Screwy Skewed...
Quote:
"but it remains a view that is Ft Myers-centric, and that leaves it skewed imo."
Again, I'm sure you're not suggesting my take is Ft.Myers centric...I could spend a whole thread telling you how backwards the place is.
I'm not diggin' any trench...
Quote:
"this quote below is from your very first post here, and leaves me bewildered by the current entrenchment.
"his [Weisel's] track record has nothing to do with running a successful software company (robotics and controllers, perhaps, but a pure software development company...no).."
I'm sure you're not referring to some entrenchment on my part...my opinions and perspective have never wavered....so, I stand by that quote, and in fact it resonates even louder today, than it did then.
I mean I didn't bring that notion into this particular thread...or at least didn't intend on any inference.
As for Loyd, I'll reserve my opinion on that for another thread...because you know I am forever the skeptic :0)
Ree: the next standard...
Quote:
"re: the next standard in robotics, it's right in front of you and it's called Robotstudio This RobotStudio v.5.08?"
Cute...nice plug :0)
Actually, when I say standard, I literally mean "backbone"...like what Robotscript was "supposed" to be with it's underpinning Gatekeeper technology.
I'm really talking about MS Robotics Studio.
A standard is what is "Vitally" needed in the robot market place, and I mean that globally...no matter what deployment or application you might think of.
A standard language/interface/protocol...that's the key...with MS creeping it's way into the OS of modern robotics, it makes perfect sense to present itself as the "standard" interface for nuts and bolts programming as well (and everyone will write their own interfaces on top of it as well). I gotta hand it to the MS guys, they really thought this approach through and there are going to be ramifications well into the future...they did what an entire industry both failed and resisted to do (for their own collective good), and that includes RWT & Robotscript.
This is why I applauded MSRS's release...it is much bigger than people realize...it's deep, and leaps past a lot of other stuff that's been sitting around out there....like our stuff.
Only an entity like MS had/has the muscle to make that happen...which if you read my very first post I referred to the fact that WW and RWT never really stood a chance with the forces that were at work against them and their success.
They had the right idea...but that's all past tense now.
Ree: Coroware and MS...
Quote:
"as for future of bot software, the barrier to entry that MSFT creates should not be underestimated imo."
I do not see a barrier, instead I see the wall(s) coming down. Vendors have already proved what they can do on the 'back' of MS...and they normally surpass those native apps...if you're looking for the next standard in robotics, it's right in front of you and it's called Robotstudio. You're going to see a stream of Coroware-s very, very soon. So they need to make a footprint in that market space before they have to either share it, or get pushed aside.
Quote:
"and regarding the soft-money recruiting, of the pool of kids getting excited by robotics, a portion of them will proceed to engineering, IT, etc. educations. perhaps some of them would not have otherwise pursued math/science without the bot geek experience. and note how the OTS adaptations have begun w/video game controllers used w/bots."
Kids have been showing a natural impulse towards this stuff already without soft money pushing them in one direction or another...life imitating art...it's gone on for centuries, or at least since Jules Verne...
Quote:
"as for the head start Japan currently has... the U.S. used to have an enormous, and to some, an insurmountable head start in auto manufacturing. it took one generation for Japan to catch up (from Hiroshima and Nagasaki) to surpassing Detroit in building cars."
And we should take the blame (not discounting Japanese ingenuity) for that squarely on the chin...we promoted the culture in that industry...we fed that beast...and it in turn devoured us (in many ways). It is still burping us up, because there is more courses on that menu...it's gonna get worse.
Quote:
"who can say the U.S. won't turn the tables w/automation tech in the next generation? i have tremendous faith in the capabilities of America (at least in some respects). and as for private capital? there's a TON of it in the U.S. waiting for "proof of concept" on the future of bot business models imo."
I would have to agree with the point you are making here...it's hopeful and that's fine. The money quote is "proof of concept"... there is indeed a lot of venture capital in the wings waiting for the real deal...and the fact is, they are looking beyond traded companies...I would say you can take those 10 you mentioned, and multiply them by 10 and you have the number of other private companies (and small outfits) who are doing work on this....easily.
Interesting Board,
I'll be catching up on the threads here...looks good at a glance...thanks for the heads up SPIN
Behind the curve...
I guess my point is that the Japanese in particular (do not discount the Chinese nor the S. Koreans) have been at this longer than we have (at pace)...
Those high school programs are nothing more than a grass roots recruiting program (follow the money). It's a strategy that is as old as advertising (especially for software vendors)...and MS has shown a strong proclivtity in this, whether it has been successful for them or not (Bill Gates still has not gotten over the failure of his school program, and has not given up on it either).
Re: Coroware and MS...they aren't the only ones doing what they are doing...when you evaluate them, it should not be done with the exclusion of the universe of all the other companies who are alive and working in that arena...with strong pps and market share to show for it.
An even larger point...
When I look at the Asian market and Robotics, I cannot avoid observing the overwhelming amount of funding and research they are throwing at it...and have been for a long time.
And what's more, the majority of it is private sector money.
If you really want to put your money on the future of robotics, you may want to breeze through some DD on their developments and programs...I would even bet that they have far more military developments than are widely known or that we are aware of.
The West IMO is late to that party...and I would place some healthy skepticism on what role INRA would have to play in the very advanced fast moving future of "real" robotics.
If you think that's Cool....
Every time I see posts like this, or hear comments about "Robots are the Future" I just want to laugh (with humor).
The Japanese have been making HUGE strides in robotics and they have been doing so for many years now. I would even venture to say that the West is behind them....
If your trying to gauge the "real" future" of "a robot in every home"...check what the Asians are up to! The difference between them and us, is that they are already culturally excited and hungry for domestic robots....
Their robots make plenty of the robot posts here look very clumsy and juvenile indeed....
Can you say Asimo?
Tread carefully Harry,
Use care in the accusations that you make...
Quote:
"Imo....The BOD over here is comunicating via private messaging. Mr Fundammentals may have already filled them in on the when's,where's why's and how's of what is to follow the ABB Lawsuit Settlement."
If you feel the need to insinuate anything, choose another target...I will test the TOU of this board to tell you exactly who you are and what you are about...
Stay off my back.
In fact, I can not...
Quote:
"...I'm enjoying my inside track without you." Can you tell us a little about the partnership, royalties or residuals coming our way from ABB."
I'm not like others who claim to know stuff, and refuse to share...rather, I am bound not to, so I must stay offline of these discussions.
Alright SPIN,
got your PM...no harm no foul...cute reply as always :0)
Why would you drag me into this?
"lickety-reverse-split: spoken like a true defender of mgmt.
here's MrF's profile:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?user=77738"
I have enough entertainment watching y'all stumble around doing web searches and playing with your chart software....bug-off and leave me alone....I'm enjoying my inside track without you...thank you very much.
Yawwwwnnnn...
you my friend are a suspicious beast....what the heck are you talking about....you elude to so much with as much suspension as our friend haircut....
your use of "IMO" is as prevalent as anyone else's though you seem to be dictating from a position of knowledge...
at the conclusion of these two weeks (to which you espouse all your foreknowledge) your reputation could be worth as much as this stock....
if you have something up your sleeve you'd better show it now, or your as windy as the breeze....
no disrespect, but you've been pushing a mighty billow full of canvas and nothing more....
SPIN....
Totally understand your PM response (...whoa...).
there was a piece missing from your initial message that I wanted to fill-in for you.
Also,...."I was there..."
Paradise requires a starting point...?
Wow, how long have you been around this stock?
You kinda missed the whole starting point quite some time ago...we had cake and finger sandwiches, it was a lot of fun :0)
That's an old story for this crowd.
SPIN please send me your email....
Yaaaaawnnn......ZZzz.