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I would bet he is probably still grilling Mr. Plant since it's only a little before 3PM there.
And Amber...
1 million between family accounts.
So sorry. You just haven't bothered to "comment" on your investment.... ever. Looking forward to our mutual success then.
Sylvrewynde, nice of you to "pop by." We'll enjoy your company for what...a couple of weeks ?
I certainly don't claim to know much about Jim Plant other than some emails back and forth. Yet, through these quickly answered notes and my own DD, I've developed some assurance there is more here than what meets the eye. Although there is always too much exuberance associated with unproven companies on these threads, the amount of vitriole and negativity aimed towards CyberKey and its shareholders is worthy of note.
I can vouch for their products, extremely good customer service, quick follow up and professional attitude. Not things to hang an investment on... but qualities seldom associated with scam companies. I cannot vouch for hedge funds willing to steal all our money so they might be the latest owners of Ferrari's newest model. Though I have been loathe to even accept the existence of what many here label "paid bashers," the separate F&F board and copious negative posts lead to some question.
There is little doubt in my mind Jim needs to quickly and thoroughly address the concerns of the SEC. There is also little doubt in my mind the SEC has made "looking the other way" to hedge fund shorting practices a matter of policy. Maybe Jim needs to finally take off the velvet gloves and let the iron fist deal with the damage "shorting" has done to his company. While he's at it, a healthy dose of share structure disclosure, FanKey update and audited financials would be some potent medicine for a very sick patient.
Excuse my naivety but I jumped on your table pound last week without doing much DD. Extremely happy thus far and have built position all week. Question, of the 246,000,000 O/S, how many shares are float and what do the insiders control?
Thanks in advance.
Since encryption and passwords don't appear that critical a selling point to Nascar fans loading info on the drivers, I believe the "exclusive" web portal will be the "value" in this package. I see these folks logging in to the portal religously to take advantage of contests, updates and services all aimed at them ONLY! The web portal will identify them through thier FanKeys as an exclusive group and be able to target market to them as well as provide huge value added services and information.
From the start, I felt that web portals recognizing my individual CyberKey was the future for this company. To own one not only gives me all the great standard features of the Key, but it also makes me a "member" of this portal community. It will get to know me, what I like and don't like, and suggest music, films, games or info that may appeal to me. I will be able to download music, films and games and take them with me. I can communicate within the community and they can communicate with me, all safely tucked in to my secure environment. All because of my CyberKey!
As an aside, I've communicated several times in the last week or so with Jim Plant trying to arrange a visit and chit chat. Each time I was astounded how quickly he got back to me and how sincerely genuine the gentleman comes off. For me, I don't see any major red flags here; not that I have stopped looking for them, just that I feel pretty secure this man will execute the business plan to my satisfaction.
I took PRVB's advice: PRVB- thanks for the shout out on CYCR. Took a position last week after your table pound and I'm up 25%. More importantly, this looks like it may be the solution to the "inconclusive" or "erroneous" PAP smears the women in my family have endured for years. Win-Win for all. Thanks again.
PRVB- thanks for the shout out on CYCR. Took a position last week after your table pound and I'm up 25%. More importantly, this looks like it may be the solution to the "inconclusive" or "erroneous" PAP smears the women in my family have endured for years. Win-Win for all. Thanks again.
That is a great web site. Simple, concise, informative. You know, if all the naysayers turn out to be wrong, if Rivera isn't a snake oil salesman, if they don't dilute this thing to death, we may just be holding on to my dream.... Total Independence from Arab nations! Without sounding too racist, it just sticks in my craw that we send so much money to people who wish us harm. I'd rather pay a farmer in Iowa any day. Don't even care if it's agribusiness. It's still better than where the dough is going right now.
I'm long on the stock with a million shares and think the world of the products. That said, I'm tired of hearing Mr. Plant bitch about traders and flippers. He can end all that activity by simply posting real financials. The delay leads to impatience and doubt and, frankly, it's taken way too long to for a company as small as this one to get some numbers together.
What was Jim Plants email address? Thanks in advance.
I'm mostly a lurker here but do have a million shares and an opinion. I don't understand what takes these small companies so darn long to produce financials. It's just not that big a project. I don't care if Plant handed them Safeway bags full of invoices and receipts from 2004, the eraserheads should be able to put the stuff together in a few months. So delays past this point increase the risk factor and the pps suffers. I still believe CyberKey has a lot of irons in the fire and it won't take many of them to get hot to move this one north quickly. I've ordered products and received excellent customer service. So I will wait to see where the story goes... but I won't wait forever.
Some of those .24's were me adding a little to the kids "risky" portfolio! Now let's get ready to rumble.
Just bought in this morning thanks to the tip from OTC. I own 1300 pre-recorded DVD's and didn't like the prospect of purchasing an expensive blue ray player or higher priced DVD's. This seems like an amazing solution for the DVD addicted population.
This board banned "rruff?"
For God's sake, the guy has 495 Membermarks and moderates 15 boards. Brutal.
I don't have a Grandfather symbol but I am a paid member of this forum and I do feel we may be too restrictive in interpreting cogent posts. I haven't found the board to be that OT. Just my two cents.
I got lucky and scored 50K @ .027. Needed that to average down a bit from entry. Love what we could have here still and looking for a great 2007.
Wouldn't fill me at .026 so let's try at .027.
Nicely said, GB and good advice.
I bought Loftwerks because I thought the idea of affordable condos in underused areas was super. Probably still is. But when this Ammerman/ Sulja deal went on PR steroids it took on a whole new life. Now it appears the "life" was an illusion created by crooks. Maybe the Suljas look like good Canadian townfolk, but they are either a party to, or have been totally manipulated by people who are career criminals. Having taken the long ignored advice of so called bashers in November, I was able to pull out of this living nightmare with a small profit. I have liquidated the remainder this morning to distribute to the unfortunate family members who shared my enthusiasm. No reason for them to view me in the same light I now view everyone associated with Sulja Brothers.... Scum bucket liars and thieves. On to better ventures. I am thankful for the life lesson learned here.
I think the lawyers are going to try and hang DeVries out to dry but Steve couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were on the heel so they'll need to defend Petar enough to keep him making deals in the ME. Come Monday, I don't believe it will be as bad or as good as the polar opinions on this thread.
Vol Fan, although I'm no fan of the negativity here on this thread, high priced attorneys would indeed take the client- for a fee, guilty or not. There's a reason attorneys have the word scumbag associated with them at times.
Yes, I appreciated all that DD yesterday. There is more to this CKYS iceberg than we're seeing right now. Yes, maybe they don't manufacture the stuff. But what they seem to have is an inside angle on the solution to a lot of peoples' challenges. There just HAS to be a way to go with this kind of leverage. Obviously the Federal government saw something they liked a lot. Do some here really believe there aren't a bunch of companies looking for the same kind of solutions the government was seeking and solved with CyberKey?
Isn't it interesting that Go Daddy's "suggestion" program listed several available URL's with the word "Tiger" in them? Where in the world would they get the data to include Tiger in some of the additional URL's a client may want to protect? Maybe from Jim's requests for availability? Hmmmm.
I don't know if we're on Microsoft's radar screen but I do know that any company with a solution to protect their expensive programming, i.e. games, or exploitable data, i.e. medical and financial records, has to be on someone's screen. May be a player we wouldn't even think of. Maybe no player at all. Too soon to see where this little story stock goes. I still trust the guy. They need to get something "major" done in the next 60 days and I believe they will.
Who would want to take over CyberKey Solutions? Well let's see.... A company looking for a new division of their operation that could provide secure data storage solutions for personal, business, medical, financial, gaming or automotive clients. That's a start!
We'll miss you Tom Brady. It's been a long and tortuous road with nothing but questions in front of us.
Boy if it does, Tom Brady, I'm buying back the 500,000 shares I sold in the free fall in November.
As per my philosophy that the glass is half full, I think we will soon find out that things are not as bad as many on this thread espouse, nor as good as many here would ask us to believe. It would appear Steve Sulja, his brother and maybe his father and a few trusted employees let greed cloud their decisions and made a deal with the devil. Even Petar may have not been in possesion of the full scope of these actions being directed by Andrew DeVries. That's giving Petar more credit than we may discover, but I feel he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Whichever, the truth will soon come to the surface as these allegations come with some stiff repurcussions and I think Papa Sulja is going to do whatever it takes to keep his son from receiving soap on a rope for his next birthday present.
It now seems Mr. DeVries was the Oz behind the screen, directing his puppets to commit actions detrimental to shareholder value. The Sulja lawyers will come armed with every shred of evidence in any of the PR's that might deflect the allegations. The best any of we remaining bagholders can hope for is that Steve Sulja retains enough wheelbase to command the remaining money get put back in the company. Petar and Andrew need to be painted with the most culpability to limit Steve et.al. to escape with only fines.
Even at this juncture, I don't believe everything was made up but it certainly now appears that a large portion of the PR's were smoke and the only thing that will retrieve any of the shareholder money will be to come clean, keep selling drywall and attempt to grow the company with "real" contracts.
Although I do not understand some posters need to continuously throw salt into the wounds of others, I appreciate their righteous indignation at "not being given" ear to their warnings. It was one such warning that finally awakened me in early November to pull enough off the table to allay the horrific losses suffered by many here. I cannot blame some for seeking to avoid the "I told you so" ramblings common on this thread of late. It's a tactic that no human being will tolerate for very long and speaks poorly to ones upbringing. Try it on your children for a while and see.
A lesson is here for all of us and as we enter the new year, my hope and wish is that we can all take from this experience something that will make us better investors and better people.
Point taken. I did not feel the response directed at me. Rather, I was simply speaking to the dichotomy of the "Love-Hate" relationship this management team has created with its shareholders. I was lucky enough to pull profit earlier, but ignored my share of red flags and still hold enough shares to warrant a hopeful outcome here. I don't understand the need for some to keep throwing salt on a wound but I may be misinterpreting the real intent behind some posts. If Airy's and Friends can help turn this thing around in any way at all, I'd be appreciative. Have a safe Holiday.
Skinny, where is your logic that a "long" cannot be angry with the way things were handled and yet still hope the ship can be righted? I can be very angry with one of my teenagers for misdeeds and yet still maintain hope for them getting back on track. Your abhorent ramblings are as misguided as those of the head in the clouds pumper.
Could you please post the Canadian fax number again.
What's the fax number, please?
What's the fax number in Canada?
I think new folks coming into the CyberKey story are valid questioning the price structure of the flash drives or the Bio-Safes, both items being available at lower prices with a little persistence on Google. I, too, had this trepidation. However, as I researched DRM and Block Management, I came to the realization that these patented tools were but the first step toward CyberKey becoming a "Solutions" company. I believe the Federal government bought their drives because they can run tanks over them, underwater and keep the soldier's data safe for ten years. I do not plan on running over mine with any motor vehicle but I certainly appreciated their password feature and the fact that spyware and malware cannot sneak past the sentry at the USB port. For this reason my wife purchased them for her customers as a "thank you gift" because they immediately saw the value of transporting safe data between office, store, gym and then home.
I also see the tremendous potential for health insurance companies to protect patients information in a mobile world. I see car companies saving pertinent information like seat position, climate and radio settings for multiple drivers, all stored on a CyberKey. I see families sitting at their computers, remembering Katrina, as they input into a My I-Key, the model numbers of their tv's and stereos, their blood types, their living wills and trusts, insurance policies, even photos of loved ones and emergency contacts.
I believe Jim Plant knows what he has here and he's executing the business plan in a timely manner. There's a reason why this company is growing so rapidly and it's a lot more than whether our Bio-Vault is $100 more than our Internet competition. Once I got past that thinking, I realized what a rare gem we've come across here and I invested accordingly.
No kidding! It's sick to think we are buying these creeps luxury condos in Manhattan from the portfolios they raid and manipulate and our beloved SEC looks the other way. Pathetic.
Airys, like many here are trying to recoop losses. In his case, he's attempting to get some real answers. Whether or not he succeeds in this endeaver is still to be seen but many of us here appreciate his efforts.
Very insightful post, Market. Please keep sharing this kind of cutting edge commentary as we are all waiting with baited breath on each of your words.