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I have been trying to ask all the bashers (including you) this very same question for weeks/months. For whatever reason I always get my post deleted for saying the exact same thing you just said.
I just do not understand what anyone would do on a message board if they did not have some vested interest. If you are not a paid basher/pumper or invested/trading in the stock you have to have a pretty pathetic life to just hang out on a message board. Maybe I am wrong, but the way I see it is a few of you are looking for some type of "look at me, I am so smart" gratification. Oh well...
Anyways, everyone has their own agenda. GLTA
Hey man, no apologies necessary. I am glad you passed it on to me. I don't fault your stance one bit (wanting to wait and see) as I am that way as well. I will buy more when I feel comfortable. It is also refreshing to hear a former Miner still be able to provide rational thought to the conversation without just going off the deep end and being a complete idiot like we see from most bashers.
GLTY
BH...sorry I do not have pm, but I appreciate you reaching out to me.
Re: what you said, I wouldn't expect them to have them lined up without product. I doubt (could be wrong) Avanzar and Drink King or even Spartan had stores waiting for a brand new product they more then likely have not heard of. It is why you have to have reputable distribution companies selling your product. You could try to sell me all day on something, but until I see, taste, feel, try it myself there is no way you are getting me in a contract. Now, I am sure they (JD) have some stores in mind for distribution, but they aren't going to say that until there again is a signed contract. There really is nothing alarming about what you said to me at all.
Again, I appreciate all information as it makes us all think from both inside and outside the both, good or bad.
GLTY
That made me laugh...fizz tea! Well played Strike, well played.
Absolutely...I couldn't be happier if it took 5 yrs of slow steady growth to eventually get where I am expecting it to get to. As long as items are taken care of as I see fit, I will continue to accumulate shares. Be ideal scenario for a TRUE long.
You are exactly right. There was nothing in today's pr that was not already known. I guess you could make an exception for the opinion "We are very enthused to receive our first shipment of VitaminFIZZ. I haven't seen such an exciting and great tasting product in the UK in years," said JD's Food Group Director, Tom Demetriou. "With such a progressive product, both in taste and packaging, we look forward to being the first to market in this category in the UK."
Also, for a company that thrives itself on accomplishing and then boasting, this seems backwards for them. I would have much rather have received an email in May showing cases in stores/warehouses/etc and good ole Tom Demetriou talking about how well it was selling. I guess that is just me though. I don't expect this news to move this stock at all. Just my opinion though and hopefully this pr helped in some way to maybe entice new investors, settle current investors, or give bashers something to bash (Well the Uk is the 78th largest country in the world...yada yada.)
Now, let's get back to those T-trade arguments, those were entertaining.
Sunday at 7:00? Damn...what is up with Sunday? If I am in town I will try and make it. Thanks for the invite.
Agreed...welcome to the board SpartansFan
I would not be surprised if this Big Money Mike character and Power 11 are the same guy. There posting/twitter style seem to be pretty similar. I don't know about this BIG investment group on FB, but here is what I do know. IF you claim you are buying millions and millions of shares and that you will be buying millions more on social media you are a joke and are more then likely trying to gain attention to the stock to A.) get paid for promoting or B.) so you can dump. Why else would someone want everyone in the world knowing they are buying and going to continue to buy million and millions of shares of an OTC stock?
Also, if you claim to have "insider" knowledge while telling people you have been loading "quietly" you are a joke and should not be taken serious by ANYONE. If I took that guys advice I would have to shake his hand for front loading the hell out of a stock that he got me interesting in and then dumped on me.
There is so much wrong with these folks and what they say I can't even begin to fathom the stupidity or inexperience of those that follow and take their advice. Their agenda is so clear it is impossible not to see. The problem is, most get caught in it at least once when beginning in the OTC...
GLTA
BH,
One thing everyone should know by now is that gaps get filled in the market. It is very very uncommon for a gap not to get filled.
Now, this "hole" and needing support. I don't know that I see the same thing as you, but I don't disagree completely with you. I have said since the latest shareholder letter we would probably see $.003's again and I still feel that way. Now, I will also say that there has shown to be a lot of support at the $.0048-.005 level the last time we ventured there. Either way I don't really care...I will lose everything I have invested here or make million(s) in the OTC. Should be an exciting ride either way...
"Company has gone silent." Has the company gone "silent?" Didn't they just recently release a shareholder letter 3-4 weeks ago? Didn't they just have a quarterly "messenger"? Didn't Vanis himself send an email to a supposed "shareholder?" I don't get what everyone wants. I call for action when it warrants it, not to simply make a statement to stay in the news or keep shareholders calm because they have not had their fix of news often enough. So, at this time, what does Minerco need to release to satisfy you? Have they filed anything re: the Post Oak LOC increase? Maybe that would be nice to see (if it has already I apologize I have not seen anything.) VitaminCreamer, THC, UK expansion, etc has already been reported on. We know where we stand with each one. When there is something that should be announce, it will...we shouldn't need an update just for an update. When new deals have been placed, when creamer or THC has a significant update to report, then report...no need for fluff.
GLTY
If by Miner loyalty you mean having ~$43k invested here and haven't sold anything since $.03's then Minerco has had my loyalty. I will continue posting my concerns though and positives I see. GLTY
Absolutely
Don't use Twitter.
What did I not read close enough? I said "if." I've wanted to hear how Minerco was going to pay for distribution, advertising, etc. If you read my posts the biggest concern I've had is share structure and the possibility of increasing A/S to accommodate growth. They have mentioned a few times that moving to traditional financing was their intent and the increase of the LOC helps sooth those issues right now. Retiring shares to treasury will go a long way as well with my personal trust with the company if/when it happens. I'm not calling this "too the moon," but it did indeed help me personally with a few issues I've had with the company. Are we"out of the woods?" Nope, but we are taking what I believe is a huge step.
GLTY line drive I appreciate ur posts
That is what I wanted to see Mr. Vanis! Trust has just gone up in my book. He executes what I just read and hold on. Great info in the spring update boys and gals!
I understand that, but why would it matter when it matured? IF they paid it off early then the convertible note has been taken care of correct? Wouldn't they file this when conversion is complete or paid off even if early? Also, I don't believe that note you are referencing was 82 million shares worth....again, this is why I ask why our company isn't transparent when it comes to diluting stock? Now...SS or someone else will tell me we file after the fact and I agree, but that tells me nothing is satisfied yet or we would have seen a release. It has been a month since the 82 million dilution if I am not mistaken.
Future, I enjoy your insight as well. We both live in KC as many of us "longs" and other investors do. We should start trying to meet up once a month and discuss our thoughts/concerns/etc. I say this because I am sitting on a computer (sorry for post earlier tonight as I was on my portable devices and they aren't the easiest to post from) instead of out having a drink.
I also know I have been pessimistic more so lately, but it is only because I have been pointing out my concerns. I don't expect to get all the answers and don't expect anyone on here to know. I just bring them to light because there is enough people on here constantly posting the positives. I just want all scenarios/possibilities on the table so I and anyone else on the site can discuss.
GLTY
If this is indeed true where is the filing? Not saying it isn't, but didn't Vanis jump at letting us all know when current matured debt was done with?
Ku...as always great informative post. I wasn't able to dive into every bit of it, but when referencing you asking me about dilution I speak of, I am meaning the 1billion they increased the a/s. More specifically because I know they had to do this to execute part of the plan and be compliant, let's look at the other 1/2 billion they dumped on us. Now many will say it was ok because they bought avanzar. I would tend to agree, but...when does it come to a point shareholders quit carrying the company and the company carries itself? It's a startup you say...I agree. So are we ok if they increase a/s again and us longs just take it cause it is good for the company even though horrible for you and I? Let's move past this...share price was moving solidly north and hit a high around $.012. All good right? Nope...since then another 82 million dumped on us! What was this for? Has there been a pr released I didn't see? Maybe they used this to purchase Avanzar? I don't know...what I do know is this company can not operate on its own still after 2 billion shares dumped on the market over what...2-3 years? Can you now see why I am concerned another is coming and Vanis just keep justifying it to us longs?
Look, there are a ton of positive developments in the pipeline and things that have already come to fruition. However, there too are possibly very bad things that can wreck us longs and they could very well be at our doorstep. Again, we can 100% trust Vanis and many will or even should. Me? I don't know him other then his history and I am not as impressed as most. Trust is earned. I will continue to bring up my concerns and point out positives I see.
Glty
StockScout, I understand that Vanis and Minerco make their Press releases part of an 8K. They do a very good job of that. That is not the issue. I also understand there is more in the pipeline and VF is the only producer "so far." However, I just don't get how we can continue to buy stakes in Avanzar, open new markets, etc etc without financing? Since those pr's have been stated and filed, shouldn't it be known how they are being paid for? This isn't looking at the future...I (as a long) fully expect Minerco revenue/profits to be great enough in the future to no longer have to ask the question "where are we getting our funding?" Right now though, in the present, this is a very valid question and one every shareholder should be wondering and asking. After reviewing the financials from the previous quarter(s) do you not worry about a possible increase in A/S to fund operations? If not, why not?? What do you know that we do not??? If you say trust, I can accept that for you...But for me, I can not accept trust blindly.
If I may point out one more worrisome fact that I think Vanis should clear up very soon. His salary and also why have we not seen any insider buys for a very long time? Just me, but I would like to hear the thought behind these issues. See, he bought a decent amount months/years ago and it brought exposure, but since there has been an influx of new investors, nothing...unless I missed it. I would think if they "believe" in what they say in the pr's then $.005 would be a "no brainer."
GLTY and thank you for your contributions.
Strike...I enjoy so many people and their posts on this board. StockScout, Hemper, Chistko, etc...I read a ton of posts and try to interject when I can. Unfortunately, recently someone needs to step in and ask the very hard questions that many longs are or should be afraid of. Not everything is sunshine all the time. I have stated numerous times that I am a long. I have a lot invested here, but I am not naive enough to forget that we are in the OTC. I love what Mine offers, I just wish there was more transparency. I understand it is very difficult to get info to shareholders because a lot is insider knowledge that I wish I had. However, they (Mine) was very open with showing video and even pr's with production runs. Why have we not heard more of this?
I don't need to get into another long winded post about what is good or bad about this company, but I will say this. I 100% pride myself on keeping a level head with re: to my opinion on where this company is currently and I will continue to praise the good and point out the bad. We are all in this together...long's, flippers, even bashers are here for a reason.
Good Luck to you Strike, I enjoy your posts.
If he so "plainly states" uplisting is a long process, which I totally agree then he is on record and very capable of talking in absolutes correct?
I mentioned that because why wouldn't he (Vanis) after putting out such an atrocious shareholder letter reply to shareholders with an official letter that is documented or simply have a shareholder conference call to educate the investors...to inform them of his intentions. See...he will come right out and shoot down whatever it is that doesn't fit his plans that shareholders/bashers/whoever bring up, but why not the talk of increasing A/S or R/S? Where is the "plainly stated" address to this? Actually...I couldn't care less about those issues right now, I want to hear the plan on the financing. None of it should be a secret...not to "Loyal Shareholders." All we here is fluff about moving to more traditional means of financing, yet nothing else. Nothing to substantiate the claims. Oh, since he has said that...you know moving to more traditional means of financing, does anyone know how many more shares have been diluted?
I am sorry if my posts offend, but I don't care about the fluff...I want answers and always have to the meat and potatoes. What drives the pps ultimately is financials and we rarely get any substance on financials. Where are we looking to get financing to continue operations. Why have we not heard of more production runs that will tell us shareholders if the product is actually moving which in turn will lead to more sells which in turn leads to revenue which leads to product which leads to increasing pps. I could go on and on about what Vanis needs to be transparent about, but I will patiently wait till we hear how we are moving into another market without a clue how we are paying for it.
GLTA
I here this argument all the time...I think The Future (poster) does this quite a bit when discussing notes maturing. They say something like...just 18 million or just 82 million, etc. They will say that is only 2% increase or whatever small % it is. Do people actually view 82 million increase in O/S that way? How does anyone think the %'s get so low? The company keeps increasing A/S...just think when/if the A/S gets increased to 4.5 billion. It will be humorous when the company dilutes 100 million shares and a long says...it is only 100,000,000 more shares. That is only 2% of the A/S. What do you think these investors where saying when the A/S was only 1.5 billion or 2.5 billion etc. At some point shareholders HAVE TO DEMAND that they quit getting taken advantage of!
This is an absolute joke and Stock scout promoting is even more of a joke. Power you sound like Big Money Mike from twitter...go back to your FAM. Jesus...anyone that would believe this is an actual "whale" and has $1 million to dump on a penny "at his disposal" needs evaluated. Go ahead there big boss man...show these market makers who is the big bad boss of OTC. HAHAHAHA
I think the overwhelming majority of "sane" investors will tell you they can not find another company. HOWEVER, I would bet that there are a lot of companies who keep increasing their A/S and continue to take advantage of loyal shareholders and then dump a huge R/S on them. I am not saying MINERCO will do this, but I will tell you I am a lot more pessimistic after hearing Vanis and his letter to shareholders. He carefully worded a PR piece that didn't specifically mention a r/s, but hinted the hell out of one. Now he can respond to 1 shareholder via email and say he never mentioned R/S. Why doesn't he produce another letter to shareholders and go on record that a R/S will not happen. A/S increase will not happen/will happen/may happen. Why he would even bring up uplisting, etc. And before someone comes on here and says he mentioned uplisting because he wanted to get away from the manipulation (which is what the head of Minerco said) think how ridiculous that is. He sounds a lot like a few of these "Longs" on here complaining at the daily share drop while he was diluting the hell out of us "loyal shareholders." People can blindly follow management on faith and trust...nothing wrong with that. I however give them the opportunity to earn my trust. Vanis has not done that and I have not and will not buy more of this stock until that happens. I don't care if it goes to $.003 like I have been calling for and then jumps back to $.01. There is more to this then making a few thousand $'s for me. GLTY
Strike...I just had to give you props for that post! Brother you got me cracking up. OH MAI GAWD GAIZ, TRY THIS JOOSE ISH AMAYZUN!
And your concerns are same as mine. I just don't see where the money comes from that supports this company unless they tap into the shareholders again.
GLTY
Thank you...San Fran. I for whatever reason thought it was Sac. Point still applies.
I agree with you and really felt like that was the next logical step. Event in San Fran, bunch of Nor Cal chatter, etc...
Although disappointed in this, I am ok with it because of the markets they are in. However, does the east coast not worry anyone with the lack of any press on it? Vanis doesn't even mention Drink King or the east coast it seems.
Maxim party last year. Wasn't that in Sacramento?
This is so spot on I don't even know how to say it...thank you pitman for bringing value to the board.
I have hinted at this for how long? A shareholder conference call was 1 yr ago. I don't really care about the short term pps, but I want to know where they hell they are planning on getting financing from to continue operations. I want to hear Vanis say he is not going to take advantage of shareholders anymore. My personal opinion is we are going to see another increase in A/S.
Also, I want to know why in the hell MINE is paying for advertising in Panama City when we don't even sell product there. Why are we wasting assets to market in Sacramento when we aren't even selling there. These experts should have simple answers for these questions...after all I am just an investor with no beverage experience.
Avanzar...I thought we were to report top line revenue of $450K/monthly (and increasing at an astronomical rate) yet our total revenue for Q2 was $700K. Wouldn't/Shouldn't avanzar alone have added $1.2+ million in top line revenues?
To the newbies to OTC land or just those without much knowledge of how the OTC message boards work. Those folks that are on here asking for share counts and those pumping sunshine (weak hands out up we go) along with those who will only respond to posts with questions that may damage the company with a post of their own not answering questions, but pumping some beaten press release...don't take there word for anything. Hell, don't take my word or anyones...nobody is looking out for you. Stay completely away from buying this stock until a true floor has been put in for a few days. Maybe that floor has begun to form now, I don't know...I kinda hoped it formed yesterday. I fully expect $.003's again though.
GLTA
LineDrive...I agree with you. This is my problem with the "pumpers" on here. You brought up very relevant questions and you get asked what your agenda is. I am a long and I have the same concerns and always have. I don't have complete trust in Vanis and I too wonder what any of these other "experts" have added to the "pie." All I know is our shareholder money is keeping this thing going currently and have not heard one thing from these "experts." We are going on 1 yr from the last conference call...probably be nice to get another and maybe this time the "experts" can actually be a voice and give some input.
GLTY & GLTA
Well at least you didn't state you were "gone" this time. You have that going for you.
I have reached of to Vanis and Minerco MANY MANY times. I have not once gotten a response from them. I don't email them every day, week, or even month, but I have emailed them when it calls for it and NOT ONCE got any type of response. Actually I take that back...Jake emailed me once, but for whatever reason he is no longer with the company. He was running the twitter feeds I believe.
I could care less about what PPS does in the short term...actually this should be a gift getting to buy in the $.005's and possibly lower. I said yesterday $.003's. However, this is not a gift as now there again is true concern that a r/s will take place or an increase in A/S thus further dilution. His wording in the press release and forward looking statements was very carefully worded which is why I am very concerned. I took a lot of what he said as basically we the shareholders have kept this company going with our money and they will probably have to squeeze us for more. It didn't at all sound like he had shareholders best interest in mind.
You are right that r/s is currently a non issue, but it is a forward looking issue that I don't think should ever need to be done or even hinted at IF the company is doing as well as you say and as well as your forward looking statements make it appear. We have had our posts before back and forth and you know I am a long so current valuations aren't as important to me as revenue growth and debt reduction. That is probably why the feeling i get from the info yesterday suggesting IMO a r/s hits closest to me. A R/S IS NOT GOOD IN ANY WAY FOR CURRENT SHAREHOLDERS.
Anyways, I have stated my opinion re: r/s, but how did you come up with your numbers? Why 2x sales and not industry avg? Not debating with you, I just believe industry avg is closer to mid teens then 2x.
Also, if ANYONE can explain to me where the Avanzar revenue was recorded on the financials I would appreciate it. I believe it is still included in top line revenues, but I thought it was $450K/month which alone would put us around $1.3 million just from Avanzar. Am I mistaken? Maybe the $450K was quarterly? Semiannually??
TIA and GLTA
Seriously? He doesn't say directly...who would until he actually does it. Was your "interpretation" that a r/s was not insinuated? I guess we could get to $4 overnight for the big boards? It absolutely is my interpretation of the facts he stated. As your interpretation of the facts is?
Look, I want nothing more then this company to succeed and make it to the big boards, but not at shareholders blood that have been with this company for years. Why even mention the big boards? I guess to some it could entice excitement and that was the initial feeling I had. I felt like we had a leader who has a LONG TERM goal of getting to the big board through hard work, company growth/expansion and bottom line financials increasing to a point we get there. HOWEVER, after he mentions Big boards he immediately publishes his reasoning as Volatility and Manipulation?? Seriously??? MY interpretation of that is a cop out to get more cash from investors. This company is making a few hundred thousand a month revenue (way less profit) and has increasing debt and he is talking big boards because of Manipulation? That sounds a lot like some of our resident "experts" on this board and if that doesn't scare the hell out of you then I am glad you have ice in your veins.
I hope I am wrong, but I have been on the fence for a while now (as my posting history would tell you) about the leadership of this company and it will probably take more then a few forward looking statements to try and overshadow the negativity I read yesterday in the releases to get me off that fence.
GLTY and GLTA
That was a HUGE red flag when I read the report yesterday. I was ok with most the financials, but why in the world is Vanis even worried about uplisting at these current levels and then he mentions "manipulation" in the OTC. Just seemed very "odd" for a "leader" to be bringing these things up. It is like he is using manipulation and volatility as an excuse to give him reason to try and r/s and everything will be good for current shareholders. IT WILL NOT BE...a r/s will eventually need to happen to get uplisted, but to actually noting it in a forward looking statement this early in the game is very alarming. Mine is a company with millions in debt and projected few million in revenue and he is discussing NYSE or NASDAQ? IMO he is setting it up for a r/s and he is trying to disquise it as a good thing for shareholders. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see another increase to A/S as well. We are closer to that option then a buyback. He went from ruling out a reverse split to now entertaining the idea and doesn't even mention a buyback (didn't expect him to.)
Also, am I misunderstanding or wasn't ~$450K monthly from Avanzar to be added to revenue on Mine's financials? Maybe it was quarterly, but I thought it was monthly. Where was that revenue?
These financials and the shareholder letter were a huge negative if you read between the lines. IMO I'd wait for the $.003 level and then consider buying.
Seriously? Man I try not to respond to your posts because they are absolutely ridiculous and have a set agenda, but "odds have turned against longs" if we break 68? Do you know what the definition of a "long" is? We break 68 and this long is watching for a floor to buy more so I can sell them in a few years...
Now, if we break 68's then that is not good for flippers/traders, but day to day has zero to do with us longs. Good luck continuing to get anyone to believe anything that comes out of your mouth.
Good Morning fellow posters. Haven't been around in a few days, been extremely busy. I did see on other social media sites this place was out of control with bashers so I thought I would "poke" my head in to get a laugh.
Anywho, got the email yesterday from Minerco as most of you probably had. Am I the only one who HATES these news pieces? I am not bashing Minerco for putting this out. It is my understanding that this goes to those who sign up to receive company information only. However, every time they release pps related articles, the stock follows with a tank job. Remember when they touted ClayTrader and his "expertise" showing such great momentum and blah blah blah? Seriously, it is Claytrader and USMD...is this stuff worthy of such press releases? In the OTC I always have the pessimistic side of me asking why? When I see such huge sell volume/short interest the gears start turning and it makes me ask the question if this is related? More then likely not, but to totally rule it out would not be bright. Anyways, just the pessimistic side of me, nothing more.
Now, spring break. I read many people "freaking out" that nothing has shown up in PCB yet. IT IS FREAKING MARCH 10th which is a TUESDAY! Has spring break even started yet? Now, if you don't see anything this weekend and definitely the following weeks you should worry, but what the heck? Again, it is TUESDAY MARCH 10th. Also, does anyone really feel this is going to have any positive on the share price in the short term? All this is going to do is provide further awareness of a great drink coming to market. The real news we should hope for from this is Florida distribution and expansion. Why else would you advertise in PCB if you weren't going to open that market up? I guess we did sponsor a Maxim party in Sacramento...still shaking my head on that one.
Everyone needs to relax. You will (if you haven't already) see the bashers slowly turn to pumpers as the price declines to their buy level. Flippers who were negative on the stock now be positive. It is all part of the game. Bottom line is nothing has changed re: Minerco as a company. Pics going to be posted of the great advertising happening in PCB, Financials going to get released in the coming week(s), and if you really want positivity, check out the store tracker and see the 1200+ stores VF has a foot in. ALL IN 6-8 months!
GLTA
HA...and someone is mad. I wouldn't expect you to "give a F" what I think, I am a "delusional long" who has enough common sense to know this is not a $60 million company yet. And of course it could run 140% in a matter of days...heck it could do it in minutes as I have seen with many OTC's, however it would never hold. Of course as a "trader" you know this.
And what "tomatoes" did I throw? I am merely tempering expectations that traders are trying to put on this stock. Like some did with the Albertson's news, Like the conference call, and now with the financials.
GLTY
So you think the pps needs to run 140+% after the earnings are announced or "something is wrong?" I have read a lot of your posts and you obviously do not fool anyone with your motive, but I have to ask if you really believe what you just wrote? Serious question...MINE after earnings needs to have a 140%+ spike in pps and a market valuation of $60 million OR we, the "delusional longs" will throw tomatoes in your face? Who is the delusional one? I will put a "fair" valuation on the company at the time financials come out for myself. What I value this company at, not what some cheerleader or basher says. Personally, I think the current pps is very close to my valuation of this company. Of course I can use numbers that I want to make it whatever to fit my agenda, but I think the market has it pegged pretty well and will always. No matter how much you bashers think you have a hand in this, no matter what the "pumpers" think they have. Market always wins...
Absolutely Bad Hemper. Wasn't it funny how as soon as these flippers/investors get what they want they are "out?" In a way it is why I respect stockScout...I still feel like there is something weird going on between him and the company (JUST MY OPINION I have no facts to base this off of, just a feeling,) but he has never (that I know) pumped this stock. He keeps the board littered with positives and is usually always around, good or bad. Miami retread blamed it on a falling out over management or some crap why he was out, others blame it on whatever...I give it to them...you have no conscious and can pull it off congrats I guess. It is absolutely 100% why you do not gamble with a big portion of your assets no matter how sure of a thing it seems and you listen to absolutely nobody on the OTC without being able to weed through the BS.
Don't let it get you down though...I am a true long and I have my doubts about the company, but they are doubts about how hard it is to get out of the OTC. How to actually become a big time publicly traded company. Everything still holds as true today as it did how ever long ago (18-24 months) I first started investing. The struggle is still there, but the company is moving forward. They keep clearing hurdles (although some with the help of the shareholders,) but they are clearing them. When this puppy gets moving forward on their own watch out.
GLTY
Look...a lot of people do not want to believe this, but I am perfectly ok with pointing out the obvious even if it ruffles some feathers.
Why did the Albertson's news come out and the share price dropped? This is not hard at all to understand and it was executed perfectly just like the April 2014 conference call! Remember that "Longs?" So we have posters on this board, social media, etc claiming they "have information" and "you won't believe it when it happens or is announced." Remember that retard in Miami all over Twitter last year claiming he knew everything about the company to get people to buy only to then cry foul on management and the reason he got out? It is a ploy traders/flippers use every day.
Ask yourself this...when someone comes on here or anywhere else and claims to have news yet won't disclose that news, why would that be? If you are a true long, then what will it hurt to share with everybody the DD you think you uncovered? IF anyone had knowledge of Albertson's a week or two beforehand, what does it hurt to disclose it? A basher may attack you, but if you are confident in your DD then won't you have the last laugh? See, it does not make since to withhold info unless you are trying to gain an advantage. If you don't want to disclose it, then why even dangle the fruit to begin with?
Long story short, do not trust ANYONE on this site. I would bet that more then 75% have "flipped" this stock who call themselves longs and that would go for some of those right at the top of this board. I don't blame anyone for doing whatever if they made money, but to deceive is crap especially when there are inexperienced OTC players who do not know better.
All in my opinion of course...GLTA