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New company ? Raise working capital ? Start Up ? Do you have any clue how much money it takes to extract gold and minerals from mines ? We are talking millions and millions of dollars. That can only happen after you have already paid a few million for the rights to the mine itself. Mining is not cheap.
jock
"Ask your self why the company has moved to a TA that flat out refuses to disclose any public information?"
It is very simple shorts, disclosing that information is a manipulator Lottery. Manipulators have the ball park figures by knowing the OS and the float gives them the figure of how hard they will be able to short/naked short the stock. Its like giving a stranger the password to your online banking. IMPO
jock
Hit them hard before they get the gold. Take away their ability (money) to be raised for getting the gold. Mining takes money. What better way to stop the effort of a company to continue forward progress than to hit them in the pocketbook ? Are you of the opinion NASDAQ companies do not sell shares ? ALL companies sell shares. I am in the belief that NOTHING will stop PHGI from getting the gold, just as NOTHING has stopped them from building the biofuel plant. Generating revenue does not guarantee your company will not be heavily manipulated. This calculated illegal act goes across the board from pinks, to OTCBB, and yes, into NASDAQ. Awareness is growing. The clock is ticking.
jock
Dilution is correct. Companies who need working capital (from sale of shares) are put into a death spiral. If left alone, an un manipulated share price would absorb any sale of shares by a company never affecting the PPS. If manipulated, the broker/MM/hedgefund forced the share price down where just a small amount of dilution affects the PPS in addition the the direct affect they have shorting as a calculated group effort. Companies don't have a chance if they can not financially hold their own from inception.
jock
You will have to address that to JB.
jock
There is a distinct board atmosphere of anger and nervousness among naysayers. Interesting.
jock
Great find. Sorry, I am neither French or Canadian Monsieur bateau. The link was googled in French.
jock
boatman,
I guess you missed that post all together. It was posted in sarcasm, and I do NOT own preferred stock. Never have, never will. But, the $750,000 was sarcastic also, worth a lot more than that. Nice try.
jock
Here is an interesting video. I feel this is on topic since many on board are in the opinion there is manipulation of PHGI while others act like it does not exist. This discussion on NSS has been active on the board without deletion. This explains why the the Reg Sho is NOT working and why SRO is not accurate as to the shares shorted. Have to love the way the SEC Chairman ( Cox) tries to divert the subject on to something else. lol. but we have it under control....NOT ! Cox looks very nervous IMO.
Cox admits there is NSS, and states they are equipped to deal with this, so, my question is " WHY ARE THEY NOT DEALING WITH THIS ?"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=652216599&play=1
jock
yep, you are right, Every time I see a tank standing up, I immediately pull over to the place of business and see if they are selling shares.
jock
Nope...Nothing insightful. More FUD.
jock
"e Why would they stand the tanks up to paint them.When the can stand on the ground and paint them when they are on their side"
Thats an easy one boat...freshly painted tanks would not fair well being rolled in the sand in the building. Paint does have to dry. Paint them laying down would be easier for more sand and debris to get on the paint. It does seem like they are freshly painted.
jock
boat,
Curious how you seem to know the ordering habits of PHGI ? Care to share your source of the information ?
jock
Too many factors to consider. Source of feedstock varies, cost of feedstock varies, cost of production etc, etc. Not going to even taking a stab at that. Guessing is not my forte'
jock
dave,
Thank you. You are correct. "IT" does not make any sense. GLAD YOU COULD STRAIGHTEN THAT UP. I am sure boatman can fill you in on it, because "IT" was his statements.
jock
So you are saying that through viewing the inside of the plant via webcam you can match that size with a picture on the internet to determine how "IT" will operate? That is as ridiculous as trying to figure out the measurements of the building through the webacm by using a truck sitting beside it or whatever measurements da boyz were using. LOL Too funny !!!!
jock
<------------sz 13 shoe. Can give the tanks a good kick ifin' they start acting up.
jock
dave,
Can you help boatman out by telling us what the "IT" is that determines whether a plant can or can not produce ? What size does "IT" need to be to be considered a good plant, or a bad plant.
TIA
jock
OK boat, I'll wait for your online search for what the "IT" is. I just thought you would know right away since the size of "IT" PHGI had was not big enough in your opinion.
jock
"jock How about the truth of how big it is."
"I have a very good idea how big it is."
What is the "IT" you refer to and what does the "IT" size have to be ? Can you be more specific ?
jock
Ok boat, so you take a peek inside. You have admittedly said you know nothing about the plant except could have put it together with blueprints because all required was plumbing. How can you go from that to knowing how much biofuel would be produced by the size ? The size of what would determine this ?
Useless IMO. No peek inside would draw me to any conclusions of how much fuel would be produced, just the actual amount that is reported via the company.
jock
"You must buy automobiles without test driving them also."
And this has to do with PHGI how ?
jock
You are right, seeing tanks, pipes, and all these foreign looking gadgets is my lifes dream. NOT. I care about things like production, distribution, sales, and profits myself.
jock
"hammer Every one here would give a few thousand shares to peek
inside there."
You can count me out of that statement. Nice to see someone attempting to speak for us all though. I could care less what the inside of the plant looks like. All I care about is the fuel that will be produced, distributed, and the revenue it will generate.
Should be in the near future IMO.
jock
Here You Go Kuan
http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/utilit/utilit_snapsh_result.aspx
3 Months Close Prices
Date Ex : Sym Open High Low Close Chg Vol #Tr Bid Ask
2008-02-12 Q : PHGI 0.002 0.002 0.0017 0.0017 -0.0001 5,722,810 25 0.0017 0.002
2008-02-11 Q : PHGI 0.0019 0.0021 0.0018 0.0018 -0.0001 12,008,784 23 0.0018 0.002
2008-02-08 Q : PHGI 0.0023 0.0023 0.0017 0.0019 -0.0001 10,146,755 40 0.0018 0.0022
2008-02-07 Q : PHGI 0.0019 0.002 0.0015 0.002 0.0005 24,225,500 38 0.0018 0.002
2008-02-06 Q : PHGI 0.002 0.002 0.0014 0.0015 -0.0003 9,129,734 60
2008-02-05 Q : PHGI 0.002 0.0023 0.0018 0.0018 -0.0002 24,570,655 120 0.0015
2008-02-04 Q : PHGI 0.002 0.002 0.002 0.002 0.00 4,069,000 23 0.0019 0.002
2008-02-01 Q : PHGI 0.0021 0.0022 0.0019 0.002 0.00 9,065,370 47 0.0018 0.002
2008-01-31 Q : PHGI 0.002 0.0025 0.002 0.002 0.00 4,542,565 31
2008-01-30 Q : PHGI 0.0027 0.0027 0.002 0.002 -0.0005 5,832,017 33 0.0019 0.002
2008-01-29 Q : PHGI 0.003 0.003 0.0024 0.0025 0.00 5,520,690 21 0.0023
2008-01-28 Q : PHGI 0.003 0.003 0.0025 0.0025 -0.0001 9,803,872 25 0.0025 0.003
2008-01-25 Q : PHGI 0.003 0.0035 0.0026 0.0026 0.00 16,480,102 73 0.0025 0.003
2008-01-24 Q : PHGI 0.0038 0.0038 0.0026 0.0026 -0.0014 8,802,239 45 0.0025 0.003
2008-01-23 Q : PHGI 0.004 0.004 0.0026 0.004 0.0008 10,677,060 65 0.0027 0.004
2008-01-22 Q : PHGI 0.004 0.0045 0.0032 0.0032 -0.0008 7,470,301 46 0.0027 0.0055
2008-01-18 Q : PHGI 0.0055 0.006 0.0031 0.004 -0.0007 4,490,358 41 0.0031 0.004
2008-01-17 Q : PHGI 0.0045 0.0055 0.0035 0.0047 0.0012 3,301,326 29 0.004 0.0055
2008-01-16 Q : PHGI 0.0035 0.0065 0.0032 0.0035 0.00 11,430,097 80 0.0035 0.0055
2008-01-15 Q : PHGI 0.004 0.004 0.003 0.0035 -0.0005 5,940,714 32 0.003 0.004
2008-01-14 Q : PHGI 0.005 0.005 0.004 0.004 -0.0007 10,042,486 58
2008-01-11 Q : PHGI 0.005 0.005 0.0045 0.0047 0.0001 3,912,600 18 0.0041 0.005
2008-01-10 Q : PHGI 0.006 0.006 0.0045 0.0046 -0.0009 1,336,800 20 0.0042 0.005
2008-01-09 Q : PHGI 0.0065 0.0065 0.0055 0.0055 0.0001 601,165 12 0.005 0.006
2008-01-08 Q : PHGI 0.005 0.0065 0.005 0.0054 0.0004 1,543,919 24 0.0055 0.006
2008-01-07 Q : PHGI 0.006 0.006 0.0048 0.005 -0.0005 5,556,232 59 0.0048 0.005
2008-01-04 Q : PHGI 0.0065 0.0065 0.005 0.0055 0.001 10,693,933 112
2008-01-03 Q : PHGI 0.006 0.006 0.003 0.0045 -0.0015 12,983,245 50
2008-01-02 Q : PHGI 0.0085 0.0085 0.005 0.006 -0.0015 12,755,782 111
2007-12-31 Q : PHGI 0.008 0.01 0.0075 0.0075 -0.0015 7,777,568 50 0.0075
2007-12-28 Q : PHGI 0.009 0.0095 0.009 0.009 -0.0005 2,511,614 29 0.008 0.01
2007-12-27 Q : PHGI 0.0095 0.01 0.009 0.0095 0.00 917,914 21 0.009 0.0095
2007-12-26 Q : PHGI 0.012 0.012 0.0095 0.0095 -0.0025 1,417,658 29 0.0095 0.0115
2007-12-24 Q : PHGI 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.00 305,000 7 0.0095 0.012
2007-12-21 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.012 0.0095 0.012 0.002 1,207,495 31 0.0095 0.012
2007-12-20 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.01 0.009 0.01 0.001 265,000 10 0.009 0.01
2007-12-19 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.01 0.009 0.009 0.00 235,422 15 0.009 0.01
2007-12-18 Q : PHGI 0.011 0.012 0.009 0.009 -0.003 1,860,515 31 0.009 0.01
2007-12-17 Q : PHGI 0.014 0.014 0.011 0.012 0.001 240,667 8
2007-12-14 Q : PHGI 0.014 0.014 0.011 0.011 -0.002 61,000 10 0.011 0.013
2007-12-13 Q : PHGI 0.014 0.014 0.012 0.013 0.00 427,551 14 0.012 0.014
2007-12-12 Q : PHGI 0.015 0.015 0.013 0.013 -0.001 1,048,500 20 0.012 0.015
2007-12-11 Q : PHGI 0.0135 0.015 0.013 0.014 0.0005 890,400 33 0.012 0.015
2007-12-10 Q : PHGI 0.012 0.0135 0.012 0.0135 0.0016 503,900 17 0.012 0.0135
2007-12-07 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.012 0.01 0.0119 0.0009 924,552 40 0.011 0.012
2007-12-06 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.011 0.01 0.011 0.00 1,268,786 21 0.01 0.011
2007-12-05 Q : PHGI 0.011 0.011 0.01 0.011 -0.001 155,176 14 0.01 0.011
2007-12-04 Q : PHGI 0.01 0.012 0.01 0.012 0.003 1,118,750 20 0.01 0.011
2007-12-03 Q : PHGI 0.011 0.011 0.0085 0.009 -0.002 1,604,141 38 0.009 0.01
2007-11-30 Q : PHGI 0.0115 0.0115 0.011 0.011 -0.0005 58,700 4 0.01 0.012
2007-11-29 Q : PHGI 0.013 0.013 0.01 0.0115 -0.0005 394,839 20 0.01 0.012
2007-11-28 Q : PHGI 0.009 0.015 0.009 0.012 0.003 2,444,211 61 0.011 0.012
2007-11-27 Q : PHGI 0.009 0.009 0.0085 0.009 0.0005 1,010,000 13 0.0085 0.009
2007-11-26 Q : PHGI 0.009 0.009 0.0085 0.0085 -0.0005 1,243,901 19 0.008 0.009
2007-11-23 Q : PHGI 0.0085 0.009 0.0085 0.009 0.0002 951,583 16 0.008 0.009
2007-11-21 Q : PHGI 0.007 0.009 0.007 0.0088 0.0008 2,047,610 35 0.008 0.009
2007-11-20 Q : PHGI 0.008 0.008 0.007 0.008 0.00 380,880 10 0.007 0.008
2007-11-19 Q : PHGI 0.0075 0.008 0.007 0.008 0.0005 4,383,474 25 0.0065 0.008
2007-11-16 Q : PHGI 0.007 0.008 0.007 0.0075 0.00 6,538,454 52 0.007 0.008
2007-11-15 Q : PHGI 0.0075 0.0075 0.007 0.0075 0.00 1,175,625 11 0.007 0.008
2007-11-14 Q : PHGI 0.0065 0.0075 0.0065 0.0075 0.00 4,865,647 32 0.007 0.008
jock
I missed that one. Got a copy ? PM to me.
jock
"could you please explain in detail how that works?"
No can do. Everytime I mention anything about the manipulation and how it works it meets deletesville.
"also would be nice if you can present some proof that this is what's happening with phgi stock at this point in time."
Sure, after you present the proof that what I say about the stock being shorted to oblivion is false. Hard to explain anything anymore because talking about the stock from a longs perspective is censored by post deletions.
jock
Posted by: boatman
In reply to: sandintheshorts who wrote msg# 20852
Date:2/14/2008 7:57:02 AM
Post #of 20868
Sandi,Ever share holder her should thank you for the info we have received over the last year.More true info has came from you in a any one month than from bb in a year and a half
Posted by: boatman
In reply to: whistles who wrote msg# 20820
Date:2/13/2008 9:48:03 AM
Post #of 20867
whistles,The pps is the only true fact we know.And it speaks volumes.
(According to you the only true facts you know is the PPS ? You hit the nail on the head with that post, and I totally agree. )
jock
Time will certainly tell. You know dave, these things take time.
jock
In hindsight, for the past 15 months, I see a biofuel plant near completion, road access to a gold mine built over federal land, acquisitions of several radio/tv stations, a BB shell, and a heavily manipulated ( huge coordinated short positions which will not show up the the short interest as brokers swapping spit) stock which now sits at .0015 with an AS of 355million, and trading like it is Billions.
jock
"Did he stick to what he intended to do in that case?"
How dare Mr Beebe reduce the AS from 30 BILLION down to 155 Million and then increase it to 355 MILLION. How dare him alter the business plan due to the uncertainty of the markets and not just jump right into a Bond during this time.
How dare him use money raised through the sales of shares for acquisitions. He is a BAD, BAD man.
jock
"The pps is the only true fact we know."
I am glad you admitted all the rest of the chatter was indeed not fact.
"And it speaks volumes."
It sure does speak volumes. Trading to the volume of 5 Billion shares when there are only 355 million authorized. Imagine that.
jock
C) The stock has been significantly shorted as you previously stated, but, the company continues to move forward regardless of the attacks.
jock
So you are admitting there is a "significant" short position here ? Please do tell. A "significant" short position harms any companies ability to raise money to build upon their business plan. If capital were not needed, why would anyone go public in the first place ? Regardless, BB still acquires, and the plant is right around the corner to producing biofuel, despite the obvious attack on the company IMO. The PPS is as a direct result of the "significant short position" you seem in the know about, not the actions of the CEO.
jock
It validates the opinion that the whole market is corrupt and manipulation runs rampant IMO. Companies are being "shorted to oblivion" as one poster put it.
jock
I continue to remain optimistic as the plant is moving right along. Bio fuel production should be right around the corner. Regarding the gold mine, gold traders are chomping at the bit to jump in as soon as mining commences. This is very exciting.
jock
"Pennimon,
These boys are INVESTED in the defeat of Perihelion Global."
(Judging by this post, I agree. I also agree that facts are not standing in their way.)
SAM PRUITT Dec 8, 2006
"THE COMPANY IS NOTHING BUT A STOCK SSCAM COMPANY.THEY DON'T BUILD OR OWN ANYTHING."
By: sampruitt2000
31 Jan 2008, 07:19 AM EST
Msg. 586 of 641
Jump to msg. #
Hello folks.I post on ihub as boatman.
phgi is a pump and dump outfit.
70 plus prs.With nothing but lies
(Ummmmm, look into the crystal ball, errrr webcam. There's a biofuel plant-a-being built. Doggone has graciously provided video of all that stuff they do not own (plant, radio station, and more stuff in the future(tv/radio). Them there's the facts that dispute above post.)
(This is not to attack, just to point out the facts as they truly are. We all like facts.)
"The company is obligated to complete the BioFuel manufacturing facility within (2) years and employ 20 persons upon completion of the facility. A year thereafter, the company has agreed to employ a minimum of at least 100 persons at an average wage of $14/hour including fringe benefits."
It is an opinion dog. I know it differs from yours but chill out. I am sorry if differing views are hard to accept, but, it is what it is. I think if I want to speak at the meeting I would not need your assistance, but, your gesture of kindness is noted.
jock
" I think the city of Opp meant employees of the refinery"
Meant is an opinion. Does it state 100 employees of the OPP Alabama Refinery plant ? I can't seem to find that. Since picking words runs rampant, I saw Perihelion would employ 100 people period. You can change my opinion with verifiable facts as well.
jock
Just my opinion dogg, you can stop with the attacks anytime. I understand when the opinion is not the same as yours you sling it just to see if it sticks, but, like you, I have an opinion and you can change it with verifiable facts at any time. I'll be awaiting for facts to dispute my opinion.
jock