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Yes Sir,
I am well aware of the requirements, I'm a financial analyst.
I was stating my opinion, as we both agree securities can jump from pennies to dollars on a moments notice depending on the situation. Given the potential here, (oil & gas, solar project, TeleMedCare, employee leasing, green fund rally, constant acquisitions , future if not current merger deals & especially the unforeseen, upward possibilities are endless.
I believe we have time before an up listing. Audited fins are just the beginning. There hasn't been a date that I know of that anyone should be expecting an up listing, we just know it should be coming this year. I think there are preconceived notions that we will be up listed by summer , that would be nice.
Frank mentioned (courtesy of HH), the only way there would be an R/S if if the underwriters thought it was the best way to up list. As we stand now, of coarse, a few months from now, who knows. My scenario is just optimism, definitely prepared either way.
Also mentioned in an interview with Frank, I believe well over a month ago, he believes he currently (at that time) , held the ammunition that would raise the pps to .07-.10 , with a $50 million dollar market cap (somehow that came over as an understatement to me). That was then, I would suspect things are just looking better and better. We'll see.
Good luck.
I believe by the time we are to be listed, I think we will already be in the dollar range. :)
To me, small is 2:1 .
If you took the last example, sure.
Although anything is possible, that just made me lol.
Oh, ok.
Thought you said you had crossed that threshold, maybe it was someone else. Whoever it was, to be on this ride for free must be awesome.
Yea, overall we've gotta do what we gotta do.
I personally don't think there will be a r/s. There is time, and the potential to get the pps to where it needs to be. I think it just causing shareholders to speculate in that area because of where we are sitting now.
I believe not only will we rebound heavily this summer before audits come, but also believe Frank is saving some of the best news for then.
There are other options:
Make it to dollars beforehand, buyback, or retirement.
Either option seems better than the original, although it will ultimately benefit us all.
If an R/S is at hand, I would suspect it to be small.
We may make it to ..
2.00 before the listing without any share reconstruction :)
If we do have to go there, a buyback or retirement would be more appealing.
You are the lucky one....
Riding free, I'm jelly, j/k ;)
I agree,
It was just a shimmer of hope for the early reversal. I'm a charts guy for the most part, and all the signs are echoing what you are saying.
Like you said , if we close green , there's a chance. Great post BTW.
What a day,
Apologies for the late reply, just getting in from work. I can say I as well as most of you would have expected to be trading in copper at this point. It's unfortunate, and frustrating to say the least. I wanted to express my sentiment so everyone knows, I feel like most of you, I am human and do not like loosing money. Quite a bit of people bought in well above 006's , so this must be a nightmare to you.
Only thing I can say in that regard , is what I am doing. I personally have not sold any core shares. I respect anyone's decision to do so. I have made solid efforts to continue to buy shares as the price declines. The only reason I am doing this is, I still have confidence in the company and it's outcome. I have always said WNTR is a long for me, at the least 3-5 yrs. As buffet said, " When you invest in a stock, try to hold your investment for around 10 yrs at least."
I put into it what I can afford to loose, (which I can't really afford to loose anything) , watch the charts, keep updated with PR's, and wait. If I experienced hysteria every time the price dropped here, I would either have had a heart attack by now, or deemed trading this security unhealthy and let it go. So I could voice my concerns on the board, but that does not seem to help much. Just know in the back of my mind, yes, I may be thinking what you are thinking. The only hype I bought into is the PR"s released by the company, that , if true, bottom line makes this a solid investment. I have done DD on the company enough to consider it a long, and really can't focus on what is happening short term. I have lost quite a bit, as I am sure we all have. I am optimistic that things will come together a little better than I expect.
Everything I have posted about WNTR is what I believe. If you need encouragement, read my post. I too need encouragement, so after this post, I will turn to my green fund :) , and have a Samuel Adams.
Honestly, most of my eggs are in this basket. I have even considered selling some shares to purchase other securities that are influential to me, but I just cant seem to bring myself to do it. I've been here a little too long to turn back now only to get left behind when she takes off.
That's me, do what works for you.
As for BMAK, ........ #@+%!# @$& #@%$&$@#. (hope you understand)
As for my opinion of Frank selling shares, possible, as that's what they are there for to propel the company through business dealings etc. What if he was selling shares to complete an acquisition deal that will make share holders very happy in the future. However, I, for now, can only assume that shares exchanged for debt conversion are being sold, as Frank said he, and the other top execs have not sold shares. In fact, it would not be beneficial for he or the other 3 execs to sale under .05 because this is pretty much their promised paycheck scheduled rate. Then again , stranger things have happened.
The charts pretty much said these days were coming. It was also pointed out here on the board so we could brace ourselves, and do what we needed to do early if we needed to cover. Some, were optimistic, that things would turn around, but this time things went with the charts unfortunately. We never know.
If WNTR was a short term flipper for you, I don't know what to say. I have always based my comments on a long term perspective, and if flipping is what you are doing, I would hope you follow the charts , and knew this possibility was around the corner, and waited to buy in at round bottom. Higher highs, and higher lows, is what we want, so we'll have to see where this goes from here.
Vent if you need to, I understand.
I said IMO that things should start picking up after April. Meanwhile , I think this is just a ride you have to stomach if you want to reap the benefits.
It is a reasonable question, as no further details on that have been released.
I can only speculate, so I will not.
However I would assume there will be a PR in the future detailing the specs of this transition. In the past, with other organizations, I have witnessed distributions effectuate on a 1:1 basis, which would be pretty generous if that were the case here, but I have absolutely no idea. We can only wait and see.
The process:
Usually, shares are distributed as dividends that would result in the spin-off of say, Green Fund to WNTR share holders.
After the S1 filings, usually comes the public listing about 6-12 weeks later.
The company then usually decides on an EX-Dividend date (the date which marks the cut-off for receipt of the Green Fund dividend)
Once the date is decided for the dividend spin-off, dividends/shares are usually distributed/allocated to a new account (Green Fund ticker) in correspondence with the date selected. As I said, I can only speculate , so I have only laid out details I have witnessed with other organizations and not WNTR.
Hope that helps.
Worried about the GREEN FUND ???
If you want no part of the Green Fund, due to ethics , morals, or afraid of a violation of Federal Law, **there are a couple simple ways around this IMO.
As I mentioned previously, if you are truly concerned about your investment in WNTR, It is imperative that you do a FULL DD on the company. This would eliminate most of the confusion, misplaced concern, and unwarranted postings on this board.
I was going to keep quiet, but since I am one of the moderators, I will point those concerned in the right direction.
**1st way around this is : Sell your shares, and invest in an organization that is more aligned with your standards.
**2nd way around this is : Do your DD , and realize that maybe Frank has taken this under consideration. Hence the PR that was released the end of Feb.
This PR clearly states that he intends to have the Green Fund , separately listed, (different ticker ) which current WNTR shareholders will receive a part of. This only makes the deal more attractive to me. I personally intend on taking those shares , and acquiring more.
This means, if you are not all that particular about investing in a MMJ organization, you will have the ability to sell all of your Green Fund shares, and only hold a position in WNTR. It should also be pointed out that most , if not all of the Green Fund investments, seem to be in organizations that are indirect to MJ itself. ( Payment solutions, growing equipment, etc.) Funds also , seem to be directed more toward the MMJ sector, and not recreational, which are both not federally approved, however the MMJ sector seems to receive far more leniency in regards to the Feds.
Your DD Link:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/worldwide-forms-green-fund-151500996.html
Happy Easter :)
Personally,
I do not think , we will see 004's, I hope not anyway. Honestly I never knew of this BMAK until recently, which of coarse is causing WNTR to be more volatile. I just go with the flow.
Considering the potential here, WNTR, has not descended on it's own. Offering gold for silver prices carries a great deal of blame. From my understanding BMAK started this show, and some made moves with the market. I personally do not like it, and if I had millions of dollars available, I'd buy every share being sold under .03 , at least until we get strong buy support at that level, which will not be long, IMO.
I'd say worst case scenario is, more manipulation occurs, which could possibly trigger a few stop losses, in which we would have a very a swift recovery.
Better case scenario , BMAK is gone, and we move north from here, with no PR's for now as it should be. We've had enough positive PR's that this company should be trading close to its valued pps. The closer we are to .04 before news, better chances we see .07-.15 or more on an incredible PR around June or July.
$$WNTR$$
Yeah Blanka,
And if you are a risk taker, which I would assume we all harbor a bit of that characteristic, we could make a few beneficial moves in between that would make the ending that much sweeter.
Good luck !!
Wassup Rik,
I've been missing the action for a couple days..
If you do sale on a rally, I'd make sure you are at least getting a chart indication to make that move , otherwise, the big boys are gonna eat that up and keep moving north. Also consider, if this is our high (or close to it) before we see a slight dip, that could present a nice opportunity as well, but I know you know that.
WNTR is just so volatile right now, and you just never know.
The market overall has been kind of slow the past week. Looking forward to next week, either way.
$$WNTR$$
IMO, Hippo........
Is exactly right.
Sure, in penny stocks, sometimes charts can be unreliable. However, most penny stocks are for day traders. WNTR is no exception, but rarely do you actually find a pinky that has the potential WNTR does. With that being said I am insinuating that WNTR is a long, (for me). With that also being said, if you have confidence in your investment here, it's pretty simple, the $$$ will eventually come.
We are all adults here. Everyone trades differently, to their own avail as it should be. Almost no one makes a post saying, "It's time to sell." If the time arises , it is usually insinuated ie; "look at the chart", or some other indication that if you are a player, now may be the time to play.
I think Hippo's opinion, followed by chart documentation, should be commended, especially if you do not know how to read charts, or do not hold them in high regard. It is one of many opinions that should be at least, taken into consideration. Everyone should make their own decisions in trading. The chart does, (unfortunately) show that a dip is very possible. The MACD on the 6mo chart shows a downtrend, that the market usually, but not always, adheres to. The only thing combating the chart right now is knowing WNTR should be in the pennies, and that this sleeping giant may wake up at any time.
This does not mean you are not invested in a phenomenal pinky. It does tho, make a few stomachs weak, & also, (if you are in the business of taking some profits,) give you a very good indication this may be a good time to move with the market. You will most likely be just fine in the end if you don't make a single move now. However, it could be a good idea to some to try decrease their position a little while the charts say so, and increase their position when they perceive the charts says "now is the time". Quite honestly, it is just a smart thing to do if its done at the right time. What this can do is average down your pps, and ..... Well, make you gains in between the volatility, which no one should be opposed to. Also if you do make a move, as mentioned many times, if this is a long for you, keep you a core. You don't wanna be chasing WNTR after she has taken off. IMO, it's not a matter of if, but when.
There are some who are grateful for Hippos opinion, and the chart being pointed out as a reference. While there are others who simply don't want to hear this. Actually, it is nothing that any of us here want to hear, but technically , it is the truth. Also , we all know, the market is overall unpredictable , which is why most things posted are followed by the term IMO. It could very well go to its unaudited pps of .04 Monday, but IMO, it will not. There is a chance things can turn around, especially if we see all green days next week. We will just have to see.
Only reason I watch WNTR as much as I do, is because it presents several opportunities. I have a core I don't touch, and I accumulate more by taking a few chances.
IMO, Either way you ride this ride, it will inevitably line your pockets.
$$$[t] WNTR [/t]$$$
Right,
I usually follow my rules of investing. Close to the top of that list is don't make a move before noon, unless its absolutely necessary. Usually, open, til 12 are trading hours, buy low, sell high, then let it consolidate.
Absolutely ...
Your support is greatly appreciated, and you will be compensated dearly for it :)
Rodger that...
That's why I stop being silent and started playing a role in encouraging investors... If you ever wanted to find a shiny penny on this market, this is it.
Also agreed that our problem is we are still on the pinks, I am just glad we got in before she goes up :)
Quite Frankly, (pardon the pun), I think it is just the timing of the market. Most all the tickers on my screen would be blinking like X-Mas lights, however things have slowed down a bit.
I will say though your post is correct.
I try and provide as much buying support as I can, especially at these prices. If I did not have to wait on settlements, I would have taken those 3 mil right off his hands, to his dismay, which would have most likely caused dramatic increase on the ask, in which I would have hit also. I just cant do it alone.
So this was a great post that will hopefully insinuate to the WNTR investors who can, to provide some buying power and support to push this up so it is not played with so much. However I believe after April, buyers will eat up anything under .01. Some of the slowest movers up , tend to be some of the most magnificent. We'll be on top soon.
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I bet it's just some ordinary person ;)
ATTN NEW WNTR INVESTOR$...
Welcome to the WNTR wonderland. Just a couple of things I wanted to address. I would like for you to fully understand IMO, the magnitude of what you have a position in. I believe WNTR will see dollars, I am not in a big hurry to see it, because I just about know it is coming. Please read a few of my posts so you may get the full grasp of what WNTR is. After all, you should want to know as much as you can about the entity you are investing in.
With that being said, the power is yours. In my point of view, if you do not need to sell right now, don't. If you do need to sell, make them pay, a lot, after all, WNTR right now as it stands in #"s , is worth at least .04 , I wouldn't take a sub-penny under that. This is what will get WNTR where she needs to be. It's like poker, strongest hand wins, weakest hand folds. The big advantage you have over them is, you know they are bluffing. You should know that WNTR is worth at least 4x's what they are bidding on. You have what they want, a new position, if not a greater position in this multimillion dollar conglomerate.
Hold until they fold,because they will. Most trying to get in know exactly what they have came across, and will pay just about whatever you ask because it's worth it. They are smart, who wouldn't want to get in on , at these prices, a deal of a lifetime.
Many of us also have to understand that 100% of WNTR investors unfortunately DO NOT have an ihub account, therefore your rants on the board here are most likely unheard. After all, I would suspect that most ihub users who are invested in WNTR are long, strong, know what they have a position in, and are not playing the bleed game, simply taking advantage of this current opportunity and buying.
I personally will attempt to tighten the gaps, grab all the weak hands to a certain degree, and fight back a little with the guys trying to get in. However in no time, there will be no work to do but sit back and watch her take off.
WNTR should be considered a long IMO. There are a ton of stocks that will rise and fall for you to play with. I'd say, leave her alone for a few years, while being vigilant on new developments, and the longer you keep her, most likely the longer you are going to want to keep her.
Definitely proud to moderate board of such a prestigious organization.
Have a good day.
$$WNTR$$
True, may be a little slow until after April. Tax time, IRA contributions, investment diversification. Honestly, IMO WNTR ,for now, isn't a stock you have to necessarily watch unless you are trying to buy , or have short term interest.
Although sometimes watching can be fun and hilarious.
Also, to those who are uncertain, and want to get out, please, sell me your shares in the 006X's , I will take them all. You will always have a buyer here. Just put em on the ask, and I'll be more than happy to grab it.
GN
B.E.T, I was not going to answer, but I will try and point you in the right direction. There is a ton of information, most of what was posted above on the board until recently.
If you truly want to know, a great place to start is reading, EVERYTHING you can find on WNTR, because honestly the answers to your questions are all answered by Frank himself.
Here is a place you can start your FULL DD, on the company, most of the information is here, most.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/p?s=WNTR+Press+Releases
Please, if you don't find what you are looking for, read them all again, the answer is there. I do not fault you at all for wanting to know all the information you can on an organization you are investing in. I should also say that I would not take anyone's word to satisfy my questioning. Take some time, get to know her, you'll, she'll be your new born baby. I'm almost certain, that after you have done a full DD on WNTR, you will increase your position tomorrow, I know I am.
Also , consider, just for the sake of considering, someone who is a CEO of a Hedge Fund, and has managed over $50 million in assets, probably knows what hes doing, probably.
While every investment should be approached with skepticism , you really don't have that long before audited fins come out, and that will tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Good luck, IMO if you are a long, you can't go wrong.
Very.. Dangerou$, and loaded.
In due time tho, but I'm sure you know that.
I concur..
I hit the 0062 's, 0068's, 0075's ,and expect to hit again after I see what's going on after noon. All of it is a steal right now IMO .
Probably about to take a nap, usually when I do that , I wake up in a $$WNTR$$ wonderland.
I wish guys like us held most of the cards, we'd make em slap that bid.
Funny guy that guy is... (In my Peter Griffin voice. :)
Wiring money into my account now... Gonna slap that ask.
It's comical, lol, only reason I can laugh is because I know where this is going.
$$WNTR$$
Simple scare tactic to make weak hands sell, and trigger stop losses. Oldest trick in the book. They tried to send the price down to .0051 , and it bounced back like a new basket ball.
IMO Now is the time to buy , especially so if you bought high, you can bring your pps average down. WNTR is a beast that can not be held down for too long.
REV$, MILLION$ in ASSET$, NASDAQ ..
This is what a legitimate establishment looks like.
Just a reminder of last month...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/worldwide-reports-record-results-fiscal-182500594.html
Us WNTR Longs will have many lovely summers and WNTRs to come. See you at the top.
I like intelligent people, so I'm up for that anytime.
Yea, those fins have been a out a while, and are actually more impressive if you noticed this last month..
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/worldwide-reports-record-results-fiscal-182500594.html
I imagine the audited Q filings will only be better.
I was thinking the same, simply replied to a question that I thought was made private. Nevertheless , I will refrain from referring to any other ticker other than WNTR on this board because this is WNTR's stage.
In regards to the other , Ive been in since 00XX, and now it's in the pennies. Not considering it a WNTR long, but it has been pretty consistently good to me as well. But you are right, it does not belong in the same league as WNTR.
Top of the morning to all WNTR longs.
I'm almost certain you will not regret it. Welcome aboard.
Thanks for reading the horoscope. Truth!