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The MM's don't seem to care about generating volume. The PPS needs to be lowered considerably to get movement, but they seem to want it to remain seriously over inflated.
The PPS should be at about a penny.
Shareholders have lost nearly their entire investment with this scam- over 1:2000 in reverse splits.
The last one alone wiped out 90% of shareholder's holdings.
But be happy, CDEx is temporarily debt-free.
Do you think that CDEx's vendors have put them on a Net 30 or COD?
Is Jeff still making, what is it, 130K a year?
Ridiculous.
Capnmike, I'll ask you once again, how does the G4 measure drug concentration?
The Raman Spectroscopy cannot do it, so how is it measured?
I think it's just a mistake.
Sea, the company you've identified is not CDEx.
Looks like MP finally got what he wanted.
Someone is selling.
Sea_urchin, no I don't exactly, but it's somewhere toward the beginning of the filings.
Sea-Urchin, I remember that too.
You're more than welcome capnmike.
And I did take note that you labeled me a "good CDEx Basher". I hope you weren't being facetious.
I enjoyed your analogy between the cost of the first digitally watches and lasers. Yes, the cost of lasers have made them very affordable for analytical equipment.
But even a digitally tuneable laser would not be too expensive for the value one will receive from a Valimed G4.
Now, I am happy to answer your irrelevant question promptly:
"My question is about the apparent claim by CDEX that they are able to use a laser in the ValiMed G4. From your perspective, do you think that is THE excitation source that can generate enough molecular activity that could then be exploited for fluorescence analysis, Raman analysis, and either absorption or reflective analysis, all from the same laser induced event?"
Yes, but of course, that is not the difficut part.
BTW, I reviewed Poteet's video on the G4 and I can see that the G4 can not measure molar concentration according to Beer's Law
like the older cuvette Valimeds did.
How important that is, I don't know.
Of course, the plan you cited was more concise and accurate.
Have you read the business plan mentioned by Capn. No doubt it would have to be approved by the court and is in the BK filings.
I'm wondering what is so specal that Capn would refer to it. It seemed to be quite typical to me unless they now have a new super-dupper, top-secret one that has just been released.
Capn?
Crow, have you kept up with all the BK filings?
I stand corrected on my last post. Cdex has a couple other patents (as listed in their BK filing) which are active.
However, patent No. 7,317,525 has expired from the information on the USPTO website.
Sea-Urchin,
"patented technology" - there seems to be some disagreement on here re what part of the technology is actually patented. Can you shed any light on that?
CDEX has a patent on their cuvettes, that's it unless one considers their very first patent which primarily covered the X-ray flourescent tech which IMO was a CYA patent. I don't believe it will ever have a useful application.
The patent which covers their Valimed product has expired.
A patent for the G4 has been applied for, but I don't believe it will be granted if it can't be reduced to practice.
The G4 which they claimed to have shipped is a Raman Spectrometer. I don't believe it has any other sensing technology built into it. Then again, they never claimed that that particular unit did from what I've read.
Do I think they'll ever build a RS instrument with the fluorescent spectrometer (EPE) integrated into the package?
No way.
Do I believe they've written the patent application to make people believe that their new G4 will actually have the three sensing technologies integrated into one system?
Yes I do.
But that's just my opinion, the only thing they have to do is build one that works and prove me wrong.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Does the iG4 use a cuvette, yes or no?
It's that simple.
Capn, I still stand by my opinion for many reasons, among these reasons (and this is a new one) is the patent application. I don't believe that even one third of what's written in that patent application can or will ever be reduced to practice and especially not as one integated unit. Absolutely no way.
Reading that patent application reminds me of how Poteet first described the Myth Gun comparing it to a "Motorola Razr" with all the functions- a wish list.
Big hat, no cattle.
I believe that the iG4 that was shipped to a customer some time ago was nothing more than a relabel/packaged commercially available, off-the-shelf RA.
Do some reading on RA and florescence and if you have any questions or comments get back to me if you wish.
There's nothing to get excited about. Even if they actually do build a raman spectromoter (iG4), it's nothing new. They've been around a long time and there's many patents covering the various uses.
I can't see them building anything unique and certainly not revolutionary technology.
It appears as though the UV florescent technique is not going to used with the new instrument. The low energies used to vibrate/rotate molecules with RS would be overwhelmed by the higher energies used to cause florescences. It's extremely unlikely that CDEx will attempt to combine the two techniques IMO.
If they aren't using the UV will they still be able to measure the drug concentation? I don't think so IMO. If you read their PR you'll see they talk about concentration and drug strength, but they also refer to identifying volume-by-weight which seems to be Malspeak for measuring density or specific gravity- a measurment usually made by a refractometer.
So in a nutshell, I don't believe they can directly measure drug concentration like they did wih the old Valimed with the cuvettes.
This is my understanding and Malspesk interpertation of their PR.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67630558
Thank you Amanita. Pennyhopper cannot use that as an excuse if the CCT's our obsolete and have been discontinued. I suspect the reason penny told a tall tale is because without Valimed sales, and only a very few in service, what little cuvette sales they had will slowly dwindle away.
I wouldn't want investors to know that either, but I certainly wouldn't lie about it.
pennstreet, the way you keep telling everyone that CDEx is busy at work makes me think that nothing much is happening there.
Sea-urchin, speaking of patents, I wonder if CEDX will petition the USPTO to reinstate the expired Valimed patent. At least they still have their cuvette patent, I just wonder if it still has any utility for the iG4 since opening seal containers and putting a sample into a cuvette (allegedly) will no longer be necessary.
What they need to do now is start thinking about iG4 patents, not a patent for the iG4, but patents that they might infringe on if they ever produce a Raman Spectroscopy instrument having any value for the pharma industry.
Thermo Fisher has a lot of patents in this field.
Then there'e ASD, the company that CDEx must pay royalties to for every Valimed sold. I believe that the iG4 (if ever successfully produced) will also require the payment of royalty fees.
Producing a single iG4 production unit that works as advertised is, of course, is the biggest hurdle; avoiding infringment on existing iG4 related patents is the second, in my opinion.
"My gosh, how is it you already know all these facts?"
Simple facts indeed!
Capn once praised MP just as he's NOW DOING with JB.
Just like pennstreet.
I guess they were both fooled. LOL!
Pennsteet,
I have a couple questions about the iG4, technical questions.
Do you still talk with Poteet?
1. Can the iG4 measure molar concentrations, not mass by volume, that's what a refractometer does?
2. Are the Giants going to win the World Series?
All the PR's about the iG4 (including a view of the iG4 Operators Manual on the USPTO website) have been presented exactly as if MP wrote them himself- nothing has changed.
I believe that there was no purpose in publishing 4 pages of a 40 page manual on the USPTO website other than to sell PP. That's just how MP did it with his glossy page brochure of the PS3- a product that never existed
Promoting and selling PP's to a product one doesn't have is scamster stuff.
Here is where pennstreet tries to build up the bankrupt JB as the new CEO:
"Cdex moved pass the Penny Stock scamster stuff, when a true business man and leader was brought in by pper's. A fact that MANY know to be true."
~pennstreet
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/post_new.aspx?board_id=1176
There's more:
"Loch/Cdex shareholders and ppers deserve the opportunity to have a chance to re-coop invested dollars on real products sold to those who want the products.No hype on bogus pr's, as was the norm from the loch days and first 9 years of Cdex."
~pennstreet
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67689575
What are you trying to say pennstreet, that CDEx is no longer a scam?
They're behaving just like the CDEx that you call a scam.
Should I refresh your memory?
Besides the date were you have proclaimed that CDEx is no longer a scam, we are not too much out of agreement.
Why is the PPS falling.......
despite the fact that CDEx has eliminated their debt and chopped down shareholder value by 90%
nothing from nothing leaves nothing and the PPS is returning to its sustainable value.
"Imo, the fourth quarter will still show "paid placements" bringing real sale dollars to Cdex."
In the long tradition of the Loch/CDEx scam the perps continue the double talk. what is a "paid placement."
It's going to bring in real sales dollars yet it's not a sale?
I don't believe a word pennstreet writes, except of course when he admitted that both Loch and CDEx have been scams.
Long term investors have been screwed by this scam by a factor well over 1:2000.
And the spokesperson, pennstreet, boasts that the company is now debt-free.
That's just not right.
"The incompetence was NOT Cdex management, LOL (WHAT A LIE THAT STATEMENT IS) is was Mp and his two friends asking for special treatment."
It is CDEx and CDEx alone that put themselves in the position of vulnerabilty. To that there is no excuse or spin.
But go ahead and continue to blame it all on MP.
As I said, it's not right to boast about being debt-free when it cost shareholdes 90% of their investment due to the incompetence of CDEx management.
After CDEx goes bust and all shareholders take it up the ying yang with a 1:10 RS, Pennystreet thinks he's clever and asks how many penny stock companies are debt free like CDEx.
That's just wrong.
Quite frankly Crow... I am shocked. what are you trying to say, CDEx is not adhereing to the schedule submitted to the court.
I am stunned, sitting here pale white, frozen in shock.
They still have the 40 some-odd page operators manual completed don't they? That's a good start.
It's always a good idea to complete the operators manual before designing and building the product- it's sorta a reverse engineering thing.
Write a "wish book" on ideally how one would want the product to perform, then go and try to build one.
If it doesn't work according to the manual, tweak the manual.
I wonder how many PP investors were introduce to the iG4 manual as part of the sales pitch.
Pennyhopper I'll bet (sorry scared) that you're the main man (or angel) to answer that question.
pennstreet is as believable as the fake email he's been known to create, then when caught red-handed, claims he was only kidding.
He's as believabe as thinking CDEx can produce a RS instrument without infringing on several well known patents.
He's as believable as that phony DA suit where he stabbed AB in the back and took over the action.
Just skipping through a few memorable ones, the list goes on and on and on...
Crow, I don't even believe that they've completed the iG4 instruction manual let alone an actual unit.
Why would CDEx post the first few pages of the manual, including the Table Of Content onto the USPTO website?
FREE Advertising?
"I see a bird" is a statement of fact."
Is it?
How do I know you saw the damn bird? Show me the bird. Where's the bird. LOL
Actually, I was just taking note of Roberta's redundant, hackeyed expression, "factual fact".
AS for CDEX the scam, that's a concensus among virtually all common shereholders, even Pennstreet.
But of course, Pennsteet wants people to believe that once JB took over, it is suddenly not a scam as if MP was the sole source of the crookery.
"My post stated it straight out, if bad leadership is found out, then when determined shareholders want a change, the history is clear, change happens, LOL. Just a factual fact."
It took you long enough, in fact, it was only when CDEX had ran out of money and PP sales dried up that you figured out it was a scam. Fact.
The so-called Bashers told you years earlier but you were to busy supporting MP to stop and listen. Fact.
"Factual fact"? LOL Funny stuff.