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I watched the same thing
5 years ago similar to what's happening here to sp.
When it was driven to .01, I went all in so to speak.
5 years since my initial bite of buying into that company,
it's paid off at 25-1 and recently again at 22.5-1.
So guess what happens if there's any success driving the
price down to .01, more than a few of us are going to
average down seriously.
I doubt we're going to get that kind of opportunity.
But hey, I'd buy 10m shares at .01 and wait a while
to cash in.
Something that was announced as being a strategy
at a sh mtg of another company I was at a few months back,
was how there's some who play more than kind of char.
Some insiders will actually play a negative role
just to keep others from doing it for real.
The one time they backpedal is when their bluff
is called and someone actually goes 100% all the way.
They will bait and cajole to try and ruin any real efforts
to hold a company accountable. This time it fails.
IDWD can either come through with the $2.35 per share
or face the consequences. Others will follow and do the same.
I like the view from here.
So now you don't want Downs prosecuted?
Yeah and you also said
just a bit over a week or so ago
that there weren't any tools etc.
That I know for a solid fact was 100% false.
So of course you have to say there's no short position.
This also means absolutely no credibility is awarded
to someone that made such an outrageous claim.
I now have to conclude there's other outrageous claims
being made.
When a retail investor like myself makes a DD trip
and then gets nothing but flack and hooey for it,
Shorty is DEFINITELY nervous.
There's nothing like face to face to seperate lies from truth.
This is why you get ignored.
Is it too far a reach to consider I would also follow through
and complain to the SEC or that I would file a civil suit?
I've made this possibility perfectly clear.
If I sell and take a loss, that only rewards wrongdoers.
If I hold on and follow it through to the end, that puts me
in a class that some anti-IDWD only talk about.
I would actually be one of the people who would work
to see Downs back in jail instead of just yammering
about it. I would even follow up and attend his parole
hearings and speak so a 3-peat wouldn't happen.
I'm hoping the case can be done in Florida because I
love the beaches and fishing there.
It's important to walk the walk when you talk the talk.
What I have to wonder is why anyone wouldn't want me
to do just that. I'm not like other longs holding onto
hope or belief in a company. I'm one of the few who want
to see where this ends and have the means to do so.
If I completely lose my current investment, then it
makes for a stronger civil case.
So if the promised $2.35 happens, that's good, imo.
If it becomes a repeat of what Downs did in the past,
that's good too.
Why?
I'll actually do what I say I'll do.
I will enjoy it however it turns out.
So unless, you can actually comprehend what I'm saying
and converse in an intelligent fashion,
I will go back to ignoring you.
I'll let you know if they actually reply.
I'm not holding my breath.
As a sh, I don't think it's proper to give out info.
That's the company's job.
Usually a company puts out a PR that states how to
attend a web conference and it gives specific directions.
Plus, I don't see what good a web conference will do.
As I've said all along, I don't care where this ends up.
I want to see how this ends and be there at the finish.
If the $2.35 buyout happens, I'm in.
If it goes bellyup, I'm in.
That's not the only thing not working.
When a retail shareholder gets jumped on for actually
following up and visiting their investment, shorty is
getting pretty weak and desperate.
That's typical as well.
The difference is I actually went there and learned for myself.
Shorty spends too much time playing games on the internet.
Shorty doesn't have the stones to go there face to face.
It's sounds like it's for shareholders only.
I haven't received a reply from them yet.
This web conference is a load of hooey anyway, imo.
It's more like they're trying to circle the wagons.
Please,
I'm asking nice. No personal attacks or vulgarity please.
On another note, will we now see a flood of PRs again?
Are we going to see a run of those selling?
Just one or two shareholders holding a lot of shares
and hitting their sell stop could make things wild.
This is turning out to be an interesting week.
Thanks
Saved me the trouble of looking it up.
I don't believe Downs is day trading.
I would believe that someone who bought in
over a year ago hit their sell stop and whoomp.
No matter what it was, this was serious bleeding, imo.
I'm betting there's more to come after some people
take a look at what happened today.
I'm still puzzled why the SEC hasn't stepped in with
all the complaints they must be getting after today.
Imo, there are some real assets and things might actually
pull out of this if Downs is removed from the equation.
I may be wrong, but as much noise as has been made to date,
something has to be real enough to keep the SEC at bay so far.
It would be hilarious if Downs was arrested and sp actually
went up. It would be hilarious because it would mean that
both those con & pro IDWD were both right to some degree.
Apparently this happened with a number of pinks.
Yahoo was having troubles.
I checked with my broker and it was showing up fine.
It has all day.
I have to agree.
This one has finally played out, imo.
Downs' parole officer's phone must be ringing off the hook.
I'm expecting a repeat of what happened previously in
terms of a pile of lawsuits.
I wanted to see where this one would go and I'm pretty much
sure I have now.
I'm wondering why nothing was done before this.
With Downs on parole, it was logical that if he was scamming
again, that the SEC would have stepped in before this.
Oh well, now we wait for the rest of the story
while some start pressing the SEC and Downs' parole officer
and rush to get lawsuits filed.
Doubtful.
Shorty is about done.
Having just went down and spent a week touring GFCI assets
and having seen tools in production, completed tools,
the Kovacs, all as a part of real DD, I now understand just
why some longs are so firm.
So when other posters say the tools don't exist and other
such baloney, they pretty much expose their agenda.
When you see things with your own two eyes and hold some
of them in your hands, it removes a lot of doubt.
Seeing tools in production and the Kovacs was definitely
worthwhile and set my mind at ease about more than a few things.
I look for shorty to go away before long.
When I went to the mtg in Oct., I walked away thinking:
about March we should see things picking up and moving along.
Where we are a year from now should prove interesting.
RS
95% of ALL RS return to the price it was at before the RS.
If DCBI does a RS, expect to lose money, period.
The party's over.
For example, a 1000-1 RS happens and you owned 500,000
shares at .05 sp. After a RS, you'd own 500 shares which
then drop to .05 share price. RS's rarely accomplish
anything good as most companies just print more shares
to sell to the next group of suckers.
Only insiders will make any $, the rest of us will
lose money.
That's why it was like practically dropping a nuke
at the meeting in Nov.
Since it's now mid Feb. and we're finally gaining
back some ground in sp, there's no need for a RS.
So, imo, there's better things to discuss.
Why
all the questions about a RS?
Someone viewing their DVD?
Now you know how we felt after they dropped
that on us at the meeting.
With things picking up finally
a RS isn't likely to happen soon imo
I'd look for it to happen next fall
if we don't see an improvement between now and then.
I liked the show except for the guy
that dresses up like a woman.
Gina D though, how much longer will her looks last?
I wonder how many bought the stock after seeing the show.
The show is pretty well done overall, imo.
Too bad they don't work more on promoting the show
and distribution instead of taking us retail investors
to the cleaners.
Bingo!
"Right. About the only thing left is to have some disgruntled shareholders band together, get a securities lawyer who specializes in investor fraud, and see what can be done. Squwaking to the SEC accomplishes nothing."
I think this is about the only choice left to us.
That's about the size of it, Hardasset.
Hey, it's their $.
If that's what they want to do with it,
that's how it goes sometimes.
The shame of it is, it looks like the company could
really be something, but then it keeps doing these
reverse splits over and over again and the only $
being made is the continued issuing of shares after
each RS and the retail investors keep losing $.
Between the $5m escrow and the $50m bonds
looks like I confused the two.
Ok, so in the meantime then,
Do we know if the $5m went into escrow
and if the $50m bond actually happened?
Yes, I've asked a question
that is basically:
Is the $50M in escrow real or not?
So far there are still no answers of substance.
Discussing the PRs doesn't really get us to a solid answer.
1st you have to be in the game.
You were left out which says something
since at least Mr. Bill got in the game.
Yep.
that Ohhh NOoooooooo Mr. Bill
enters my brain whenever I see one of his posts.
It's like he should make that his sig file.
I'd read more of his posts just for the laugh.
On another note, this pump garbage showed up elsewhere,
http://www.eprints.org/tech.php/5797.html
So now we get a change in diet in the hooey.
What garbage.
unbelieveable.
As I said,
don't have the time, I'm only responding now
out of courtesy.
You'll have to find another to have a discussion with
about this.
That was hilarious.
Sounds like something one could see in a Farside cartoon.
I get the daily tear off calendars and they did one for '07.
mental death......that one had me laughing out loud.
Well Tampa,
That one likes to hurl insults and then
complain about being hated and insulted etc etc etc.
Except for the occasional poking in good fun,
I ignore Mr. Bill and have the images from old
David Letterman in my head of Mr. Bill where they
used to run comedy skits on the Playdoh Mr. Bill
char.
In other words, I pretty much ignore Mr. Bill.
Sorry, don't have the time.
As I've stated numerous times,
I don't share the same level of committment and attn
that others such as yourself give to IDWD, either
pro or con. WHile my memory may be faulty, it seems
those PR's came later in '06.
I would think with the attn to detail you usually
give to IDWD, you would know better than I.
Perhaps you missed the ones that followed later on. eom.
There's a difference when something is stated as fact
as an actual occurance/event.
at least that's how some judges have ruled according
to what a judge told me. He would know.
uh actually
there's less than .0001% chance of success
which is historical fact and this is a generous figure.
Exactly.
They RS
then register more shares
unload them, then RS
and register more shares
ad infinitum and ad nauseum.
This should be ILLEGAL or at the very least
have a reasonable limitation on how often
it can happen.
It's disgusting.
It removes any credibility this company had.
My question hasn't been answered anywhere.
That is significant, imo.
The anti-IDWD crowd has actually been courteous
and treated it as a serious question which it is
and they like me are still waiting for an answer.
Imo, those $50m PRs are grounds for a lawsuit
if they aren't ever justified and IDWD implodes.
If the $50m is real, IDWD can't and won't implode.
If it isn't, then there will have to be consequences.
Imo, the $50m escrow (real or not) is the key to what
happens from here with IDWD.
It's also hard to believe that the PR was put out if it
was known to be fraudulent in advance.
It's also very suspicious that the buyout hasn't yet
happened and that almost 2 months have gone by without
a PR of explanation.
This is why I decided some time ago to wait it out and see.
It was either that or sell all my shares when they were up.
I originally believed the stock was shorted and there
would be an opportunity to get shorty for $5 sp.
Recently it looks like the shorts covered.
I'm holding all the way to the end with my current shares.
I'll buy no more and won't sell unless the buyout happens.
The whole thing's in limbo until something
happens one way or the other.
Feb. 1
Any REAL news of what happened in the court case?
Speculation will be ignored.
I'm curious what today's results are.
We've been cast as Jar Jar Binks
the next expected line is
"My Give UP!" from current speculating investors
then RS
and on to the next movie in the series
for a whole new cast of speculators to lose $.
OMG
A self-proclaimed Caped Crusader?
LOL!!!!!!!!
This was hysterical!!!!
Good grief, it's a pink for crying out loud.
I could understand if this was a crusade to help the homeless
or single mothers or starving children, but this just takes
the cake.
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quote:
I think I'm on the side of right and goodness with this one.
I've had the same thought.
Last one was Dec. 8th.
This being Feb. 1, one would think an IDWD PR would've
surfaced by now to squelch anti-IDWD sentiments and claims.
We all know that hasn't happened.
On the other hand, no one has verified or disproven the PR
about $50 million that HLS put into escrow for the IDWD
buyout.
The shares of IDWD I have left and am on hold with
are just to see what happens from here on.
I want to see where this story ends.
Downs ended up with a pile of lawsuits a long time ago.
He was also convicted and is still on parole.
This we all know.
The possibility of the same thing happening again exists.
My guess is that criminal charges would follow as well IF
this scenario continues.
Post #20615 pretty much lays out where it looks like things
are and is well written, straight forward and logical.
Now to see where this finally ends,
Downs exonerated or a repeat of previous events?
We'll see.
I'll make no predictions as there are plenty already doing
that. I'll wait for the final verdict.
Osback,
No worries. I've made the same mistake.
Heck just yesterday, IDS Watcher and myself
had a misunderstanding because of how something
appeared. Neither of us intended anything wrong.
It just happens.
In the meantime, has anyone seen that PR put out
on a more credible resource? I'm curious who ends
up winning that debate.
Hey BBB
what?
Now you expect your post to actually be read and responded
to with courtesy and perhaps even some small portion of
mental acuity?
Sorry, that's probably expecting way too much from some.
They haven't grown up yet.
You want pancakes with that?
Mr Bill it's not logical to assume
90% of the posters here hate you.
Perhaps you have confused hate with the fact
you've simply lost the respect of a good many posters.
I don't hate you.
Ahem
post 20595
"That PR looks bogus to me and Janice along with some others
appear to be right about it and with substance."
so was my statement too difficult to comprehend?
in response to:
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It is amazing that some of you PUMPERS are coming on here, posting an SEC link which clearly states that the PRGD option was not excercised and the deposit was forfeited, and then try and use that as an example as to a transaction to verify some value for IDWD stock.
LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DESPARATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A PR from a fly by night outfit as the "new evidence"
Come on!
You have crossed the line. The transaction with Cyberrelease is traceable. You better run while you still can. You are all going down.