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Here's a way to rid yourself of these shares.
Last Rersort.
=)
Read here...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=33343632
FNIX at the top of the trading list.
As Shown HERE;
Is it ME?
Is it something I’ve done?
Am I being haunted by the Market Ghost?
Why as of today, FNIX is trading higher than ANY other stock known throughout the entire investorshub’s universe, yet the PPS remains at .0001..
I’m not getting this.
However, if I may guess, I’d figure thousands of investors are buying this stock in bits and pieces, repeatedly, which then boosts up the exchange.
Naaa,, cause today's the Bid/Ask list wouldn’t look like this;
So now I’m all confused..
SPNG Interesting, of today’s PR.. -BUT…
Unless there’s an increase in the PPS,(above a Sub-Penny Tick), then all this fantastic promise-land HYPE means nothing. To me anyways.
Buying into all their "Please to Announcements" PR’s, is only feeding what "pleases" them.
Because according to the PPS history, I'm "unpleased to Announce" that all I've done was collect shares with little to no profits to reflect all the PR hypes.
There’s still room for gains, I do expect this by the spring when most outdoor usages will be up.
I’m not in this because I get all “wet” looking at sponges.. I’m in it for the money..
I’ll smile and feel the joy “AFTER” being financially Secured.
Until then,, ALL PR’s I’ve read in ANY stock are just a stir of fluff.
They turn into eatable goods when they turn into the profits that are useful.
IPKL CORRECT!! Money to be made!!!
Only for the scammers that put this scam up to BILK!
The ONLY ones who made money on this crap are those who “CASHED” in the investments made INTO it.
SO it’s correct to say YES! This stock has YIELD PROFITS!!
But not to those who’ve invested in it, as it has for those who offered its shares for sale.
Leaving the investors staggering amongst themselves, with each Cock-eyeing the other for a hint of something to believe in.
BUT!! All is not quite lost, you can recover “SOME” losses at the expense of Uncle Sam.
This is Uncle Sam’s spanking for allowing companies like these to exist.
Part of the blame goes to the SEC for dragging their feet while looking at the evidence.
This include all the “Scapegoat” safe harbor clause and laws that seem to give these companies the “RIGHTS” to say whatever they want and not really be held accountable for it.
If you cant sell this crap “AS IS” and therefore incur a “Realized Loss” to be claimed as a deductible on your next tax filings, then contact your broker to buy it from you as a “Lump Sum” of about a penny.
This will not only list on your 1099 as a “Realized Loss” for your tax filings, but also cleans this trash out of your portfolio.
However, if I was Uncle Sam, (and the gang) I’d seek to avoid this.
I mean after all, why do nothing and end up adding to “MY” deficit by paying all these tax filers a portion of THEIR capital losses, rather than lower “MY” deficit by being PAID a portion of their Capital GAINS.. DUH!?!?
Oh well, I didn’t write the laws that governs the “State Treasury”
Psssst, hay government entities ..shhhhhh listen up…. How about making a deal with IPKL and rising the PPS just before the next tax season. I’m sure there will be loads of angry bag-holders who will rush to dump like hell.. Then you and IPKL and split the proceeds from all they taxes they’ll then owe YOU…>8^}… heh-heh-heh… shhhhhhhhh!
-LOL!
ADCS No bid, Cant Sell, no “Realized” losses
Hello there, I’m mildly surprised I wasn’t given better benefit of doubts.
However, I respectfully “Realize” the assumption given was within one’s own knowledge in these matters.
Wherefore, If I knew enough to understand, mention and/or at least state the options of “claiming Capital Losses on tax returns”, then I must also know the difference of claim qualifiers regarding “Realized losses” and ‘Unrealized Losses” and applicable roles played in whether one could claim losses or not.
(For the Newbies)
Unrealized Losses:
When you own a stock that has dropped in value since purchase, but haven’t yet sold at those lower values.
Realized Losses:
When you own a stock that has dropped in value since purchase and you’ve sold at that those lower values.
Depending on the laws and rules of trading with one’s broker, one may likely always be able to sell their shares whether or not they can sell them on the market, due to no BIDS.
The alternative method of obtaining a “Realized” loss, if not able to sell on the market, would be to simply contact your broker and make a claim regarding loss status of a stock in question.
Most brokers can buy that stock, “From the claimant”, One Lump Sum, for about a penny.
Claimants will be charged a brokerage fee for this transaction and thus removing the stock from their portfolio. The process takes about 2-10 days depending on broker.
Claimants will see the records of that exchange on their next 1099 form for their tax records.
So now that I’ve just identified by knowledge base in these matters, hopefully, many will respect ME for what they’ve just learned from “ME” after reading this –LOL!
LOL (let me stop) LOL!
Actually, this proves that ALL stocks CAN likely be SOLD to incur a “Realized Loss” and then filed on one’s following tax returns.
And I repeat, if Uncle Same (and the gang) played their cards right, they’ll spank these companies to not allow this to happen, to avoid having to deduct from the very taxes they’d otherwise be OWED from tax filers.. Duh!?!?.
But hey,, I don’t right the rules of the Federal Reserves.
Well, if I suffer capital losses, so will Uncle Sam –
Because I sure as hell will be filing it on my tax returns each and every year.
But, of course, is a have capital gains, so will Uncle Sam, because I’ll then be owning/Paying taxes TO Uncle Sam.
So if Uncle Sam wants to sit on the booty and allow the rules to stay as it is, then so be it.
A much smarter move would be to “Shoulder-Up” on these companies and let them know that if they’re not planning on following up on what the hell they claim, then STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE DAYUM MARKET.
Being that incurred losses of investors are effecting Uncle Sam’s bottom line from all the tax refund filings.
I couldn’t even guess at the sizes of claims that'll be on the up-coming tax season.
As a results of all the capital losses via the market crash.
If Uncle Sam (and company) played their cards right, they’ll kick start these companies to up the PPS just before the tax season starts so that all those shareholders who’ll be claiming their losses as a deductible will instead be paying taxes ON capital gains “TO” Uncle Sam. –LOL!
Well see what happens…
And the 2009 tax season is just around the corner and getting closer.
>8^}
FNIX Weeks of HIGH Volume & no PPS increase?
- WTF!
I just don't get it,, I’ve been watching this stock for a while (weeks) and cannot figure the high ass volume but the PPS never move one Sub-TICK.
How is this so??
Are space aliens trading this in the “Grays”?
What as I missing here…
Of all the countless number of stocks symbols seen by Investorshub throughout the entire market, This stock, FNIX is trending as trading among the highest volumes.
Reviewing the following snap shot;
It can be clearly seen that FNIX has the second highest volume on this side on the WORLD!
YET,, the PPS remains at .0001????
How the hell is that so? Are the buys being secretly offset with dumps?
Someone fill me in!!!
I’m obviously missing something here.
I mean considering that ya can’t trade this thing unless you call it in to your broker, either that’s a hell of a lot of phone calls or the investorshub is incorrectly reporting the volume count for this stock. (but then, so is everyone else throughout the entire market)
GBLT? Damn!,, WTF did I just do?
I BOUGHT THIS STOCK ON A TYPO? -That really sucks.
I didn’t mean to select this stock. I was trying to buy SPNG and didn’t change the damn ticker in the BUY window box.
According to Broker, I'm stuck with it. (no proof it was an accidental buy)
quite frankly, I don't remember selecting it for that matter.. Must've been hidden in a buy order list or something. Hell I dont know.
I mean, Look at the L2 of this GLBT stock as of date of alleged purchase. 11/03/2008..
-Pathetic.
Time of transaction not yet showing in the buy history listing for some reason. But it wasn't an after market purchase. I know that much.
And to think BUYING into THIS disaster "Could Have" been on PURPOSE? -WTF is up with this broker.
I had this on my do not buy list.
-And what do I do? I buy it..>8^{
Now what the hell am I gonna do with this pig-load of worthless shares..
I don’t want to think about how much money I just literally tossed into the fireplace.
And as pissed off as I am now, I bet I can light that fireplace with my blazing thoughts…>8^{
With no bids, I cant even sell this crap.
With a brief review of previous posters in this forum, I get a feeling that I've just enlisted on a sinking ship and passing exiting sailors along the way.
DAMIT!!!!!!
Oh well, my frogs did tell me I should pay more attention, considering the last time I fed them was about this time last month,, and they’re still living? WTF?
I’m taking this rather well aren’t I, ….>8^}……>8^{
Ok,, regretfully, I now own this …………..-stock………….. and I need a crash-course on this thing.
DD’s anyone?
ANYONE!!! -Fill me in on what the hell I just got myself into..
(oh and um,, who ever is tracking what stocks I buy and then craps on it into oblivion, I dont see what else you can do to this one.. it’s already as low as it can go……..NO.. WAIT!!,, it’s still listed!! Ok… there ya go!….an opportunity!… A last piece of hope you can squish away!!)
PR this PR that… WHERE’S THE MONEY????
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!
When I SEE MONEY,, then I'll KNOW all is as stated.
All these fluff PR’s doesn’t mean anything to me anymore..
AD campaign THIS, AD campaign THAT,
Appearing HERE,, THERE,, Display THIS, Display THAT…
I’m tired of hearing all this “We’re Pleased To Announce” crap.
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
SHOW ME THE FACTS!!
SHOW ME a Higher PPS..
The hell with charts and trying to figure stupid stuff out.
WHERE ARE THE SALES FIGURES!!
Where
IS
The
MONEY!!!
WHEN am I going to MAKE MONEY here?
Never mind all the BS,, I need to “SEE” Money!!!
FFGO In flight, To the last.
Be that it may, FFGO has been Apparently Transparent
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO
(center image) IN Transparent 3D! ..>8^},,-to the last.
However, I question the credibility of whether FFGO and/or HGLC are truly closing up shop.
I too seek the link that has such allegations in print.
It’s comments like these that should be verified by its release form the companies in question rather than having it suddenly pop up in a forum...>8^}
On the other hand, if “Financial Insights” is truly no longer tracking FFGO/HGLC, then it’s likely that investors may not get timely updates on either of the two.
But I’m still waiting on the Divvy.
I can see it coming
..>8^}
Vianna? What's you take on all this?
You appear to communicate good comprehensive info..
But as far as I can see, it isn't over until it's over..>8^}
ADCS overwhelmed with bewilderment.
I may among the alleged ‘Bag-Holders’ of this stock.
I feel a sense of haven been hoodwinked.
I’ve faithfully followed and believed in the prospects of this company, according to their "Coockie and Ice cream" PR’s.
I pumped money into this company with inspiration of a profitable return, as implied between the lines of the PR’s.
Having the likes of WALMART thrown around between those lines and used as 'credibility points', has tilted the scale of believability more in favoring ADCS.
Through the rise in confidence, I’ve added more shares to my sum.
Later having my sum R/S’ed to peanuts should have been a warning sign. But ole hard-headed ‘ME’ wanted to believe in this company, so bad, that I purchased more shares.
Anticipating (from the PR's) that it’ll green-up. –I didn’t.
it appeared this company went as far as to “USE” it’s acquaintances with VSTARR as a selling pitch for its shares.
VSTARR seem to have gone as far as to “USE” the standing uncontaminated credibility of “SecondLife” as a smoke screen.
VSTARR, being more convincing, created an account within Secondlife, under which, they’ve leased several “Virtual” Acers of land to build several massive well-detailed structures for entertainment and other services.
Within their massive shopping mall, hung a few waving flags baring the name “Wal Mart”, which gave their agenda that “ADDED” credibility.
I bought yet even more shares and now through it all, here I'm faced with their current stock market status. (ouch!)
No activity, No status updates, -Nothing.
And here I sit with money tied up in this stock that could have otherwise been collecting profits in another stock.
What happen to all those “Feel Good” PR’s?
Then anticipating being bashed for their actions, they proactively Flag-Up a threat to press charges against whom ever slanders them, alleging it as damages to THEM and imply it likely causes THEM future financial losses.
WHAT?!
UM, Like, But what about the investors who HAS incurred monetary Damages caused BY the stock? -what rights do THEY have in this? -Are they to just sit quiet, smile-off their losses then pretend it never happened?
There are many reactions investors who feel harmed by this may take.
Anywhere from Slander or Bashing to just simply doing what they believe is their job to steer “would be” investors away from the stock.
However, in my case, I still believe there’s still hope here and has since purchased more…-HEH!
I’m assuming the problem is a lot bigger than my imagination and likely causes by the Market Crash, more so than just assuming ADCS isn’t doing their job.
I mean like, if many of the S&P 500 companies, who traded over $20 over the last 5 years are now trading in the pennies in this market crash, who the hell says ADCS is immune?
I’m impressed enough that in these troubled times they’re actually still listed.
Let’s face it, the people behind ADCS/VSTARR were NOT likely working this venture on a full time bases..
This was lkely a PART TIME HOBBY and was likely SECOND against a FIRST obligation to a (9am-5pm) day Job.
Who knows, someone may have gotten laid-off or a Pay-Cut and/or more.
Therefore, this whole ADCS/VSTARR venture may have gone on the back-burner.
In either case, I’ve given them the benefit of doubts, considering my current awareness of the economy as we’re ALL experiencing right now, upon reading this.
Therefore, in that respect, I’ll hold my shares and keep the faith.
Otherwise I’d have already cashed out and long since repair to file my losses on my next tax filings.
Funny thing though, I wondering what will happen if more and more investors start claiming their stock losses on their tax returns, where Uncle Sam would share in those losses in the form of deducting from the taxes they’d otherwise be owed –LOL!
That’ll get’m off their buttocks.
I think they’ll either tighten the laws governing the SEC or Pink Scammers would have penalties so high that it wont be worth running a Pink-Sheet scam company, yet alone bother forming one.
End results? -Investor capital would be better protected as the likelihood of their investments being tied to Pink sheet scam would be very far and few between.
This way if a company fails, it would have more likely done so honestly. (Product interests flopped, not enough funding, someone dies or whatever.).
Investment losses under these conditions are more acceptable or even more forgiving than just being out right lied to from the very beginning.
Through it all, I intend to hold my shares with ADCS.
I may even buy more, as I believe this will most likely kick-off sometime in the Spring-Summer of 2009 as the potential is clearly here.
-I’m just gambling they’ll play their cards right.
IMO….
SMWF -Awaiting the 2009 run!
I sit patiently, awaiting the run of 2009, as I believe such will occur following their next CES appearance, after which, they'll likely release the new-Improved S-GENS (Solid-State Drive version) next year.
But along the wait, I keep getting/reading talk of an R/S threat.
I find it hard to believe at this point in the game that an R/S would happen.
(I’ve also felt this way prior to the previous one –LOL -oops!)
But, if the barrier that stands between the awaiting customers and the products they’re waiting to BUY, is the DELIVERY of those products,..>8^}….then I get confused as to WTF is the dayum hold up!
If I knew I had customers waiting for my products with cash in hand, I be producing them RIGHT NOW!
(I guess everyone's different)
This is what I don’t get about SMWF..
They have one hell of a monopoly over their S-GENS, “THEY’RE THE ONLY ONES WITH THEM and OWNS THE RIGHTS THEREOF”,, so why they’re dragging their feet to release them to customers they KNOW are waiting for them, behooves the hell out of me. I'm sure it's just ME..>8^}.. -as I must be missing something….
With today’s technology, especially regarding robotic assembly lines, I doubt they’re unable to supply the demands.
How much technology needed to simply convert their drives to Solid-State.
I mean these are some really Badass units they’re about to release and I think these things are going to OWN the market for a while.
They may even make the Market-Block buster iPods do a 360 head turn upon its release. –LOL!
But really, why all the Media displays, PR’s and all the CES appearances I mean, why all the collections of Bragging rights but then Virtually tell its awaiting buyers, standing with cash in hand, “Sorry, but, we don’t want your money right now” –LOL!
I'm fully convinced that SMWF is truly a legitimately functioning company and the idea of a 'SCAM' (as a few are trying to imply) is absolutely NOWHERE on any radar.
However, I just don’t get the hold up!! –I’m sure it’s something I’m missing. I mean after all, I did say 'Run of 2009' -heh..
Think I’ll re-read all the PR’s and SEC filings.
…>8^{
FNIX-Reverse Split. *Pros/Cons
Per the allege pending R/S for
1-for-1,000
1-for-2,500,
1-for-5,000, or 1-for-7,500
(which also may not happen)
Although a Reverse Split (R/S) can have a very profitable result for a stock, I’ll first note the negative results.
The most commonly known effects, according to trend.
Whereas, (for the newbies), immediately following an R/S, the market value (Your initial purchase price or Current Value) of your shares are maintained by the adjusted offset of the number of resulting shares owned, times the new Price Per Share (PPS) value.
Note the following.
BRFORE the R/S
Market_Value_I__PPS____I_SHARES OWNED__
__$100______|__.0001___|__1000000______
AFTER the R/S (Using choice ‘1 for 1,000’)
__$100______|__.1______|__1000_________
Notice from the above, the Market Value of your position immediately following the R/S stays the same.
The shares owned times the PPS value was adjusted accordingly.
The Market value = the total dollars you’ve used to by the shares, or Immediate Value of your shares, just prior to the R/S.
The PPS= is the value of each share.
The Shared Owned = Quantity of shares you’ve purchased, or was adjusted.
The applicable equation would be;
Market Value = (PPS x SHARED OWNED)
From this you can also see that if the PPS value of ‘.1’ (after the R/S) ever falls back to .0001, then the following would be your market value;
Market_Value_I__PPS____I_SHARES OWNED__
__$0.1______|__.0001___|__1000__________
10 cents would be the Market Value of your initial $100 investment.
Had the R/S been ‘1 for 7,500’, the following would have been true;
BRFORE the R/S
Market_Value_I__PPS____I_SHARES OWNED__
__$100______|__.0001___|__1000000______
AFTER the R/S (Using choice ‘1 for 7,500’)
__$100______|__1.33____|__133_________ (133.3333 truncated)
From this you can also see that if the PPS value of ‘$1.33’ (after the R/S) ever falls back to .0001, then the following would be your market value;
Market_Value_I__PPS____I_SHARES OWNED__
__$ 0.0133___|__.0001___|__133___________
1.3 cents would be the Market Value of your initial $100 investment.
This is where and how scam Pinks makes their profits.
Who cares whether “OTHER” investors decide invest or not as the market echoes the Negative Percentages of the stock.
The scammers got the money they wanted (from you) and could care less of those they’ve knowingly injured in the process as they selfishly line their own pockets.
Not so much to ridicule the buyer for buying, as much against the seller for selling ‘known but unannounced‘ fraud , in and of that act itself.
However, on a more POSITIVE note, a Reverse Split can be beneficial for investors, according to the following;
BRFORE the R/S
Market_Value_I__PPS____I_SHARES OWNED__
__$100______|__.0001___|__1000000______
AFTER the R/S (Using choice ‘1 for 1,000’)
__$100______|__.1______|__1000_________
On the market side, the PPS change from .0001 to .1 would have echoed a hell of a green percentage gain. ’10,0000%’
That in and of its self, would then turn a ‘360’ on many heads and could spark a buying spree which could/would further send the PPS even higher, which could/would then spark more buying and the initial shareholders may then be lining their own pockets from their gains.
Had the R/S been ‘1 for 7,500', resulting in a PPS change from .0001 to $1.33, the market would have seen a Green blitzkrieg of a whopping ‘1,330,000%’ Gain!
DAYUM!!! -Never mind the 360 degrees head turn, how about 1080 degrees –LOL!
Now here’s the clincher and an “exception” to the rules as it related to the reputations of the R/S.
Curiosity drawn to a stock having such a high percentage gain of this magnitude will cause quite a stir in curiosity. Enough to drive many to do their own ‘DD’ on that stock
However, in this case, the ‘DD’ on FNIX will allow one to discover (or rediscover) it as being a company that specializes in the development and marketing of a means that greatly improves the user friendliness of hand-held and gaming devices in as much as to allow users to “TALK” to them. Therefore rendering them “HANDS FREE”.
Along the way, Further ‘DD’ will reveal that ‘APPLE’, the makers of the iPOD, a Market Block Buster device, has also INDORSED FNIX WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECTS!!
With FNIX endorsed by and riding on the Powerhouse reputation of “APPLE”, the PPS may likely go supernova.
Forward looking into the future?, who knows, APPLE may buy the company all together.
Ya never know.
Summary;
ALL trading Companies, be they credible or not, stand to gain by and R/S. Be it at the expense of unsuspecting investors they’ve bilked, or a legitimate company, such as FNIX, who in their case may do it for honest reorganizational reasons.
Such reasoning may also include being qualified to be listed on the NASDAQ.
Initial Eligibility Criteria to be listed on the NASDAQ*
To be eligible for initial inclusion in the Index, a security must be listed on the Nasdaq Stock Market and meet the following criteria:
· the security’s U.S. listing must be exclusively on the Nasdaq National Market (unless the security was dually listed on another U.S. market prior to January 1, 2004 and has continuously maintained such listing);
· the security must be of a non-financial company;
· the security may not be issued by an issuer currently in bankruptcy proceedings;
· the security must have average daily trading volume of at least 200,000 shares;
· if the issuer of the security is organized under the laws of a jurisdiction outside the U.S., then such security must have listed options on a recognized options market in the U.S. or be eligible for listed-options trading on a recognized options market in the U.S.;
· only one class of security per issuer is allowed;
· the issuer of the security may not have entered into a definitive agreement or other arrangement which would likely result in the security no longer being Index eligible;
· the issuer of the security may not have annual financial statements with an audit opinion that is currently withdrawn;
· the issuer of the security must have "seasoned" on NASDAQ or another recognized market (generally, a company is considered to be seasoned if it has been listed on a market for at least two years; in the case of spin-offs, the operating history of the spin-off will be considered); and
· if the security would otherwise qualify to be in the top 25% of the securities included in the Index by market capitalization for the six prior consecutive month-ends, then a one-year "seasoning" criterion would apply.
Interestingly enough, (however trivial), FNIX is ranked among the highest trading symbols noted on investorshub’s home page tracker.
I hope this answers many of the questions regarding the R/S,,, Pros/Cons
FFGO comments are my primary concerns.
STILL RIDING THE STORM AND STAYING ALOFT!
..>8^}
At this point in the game, I’ve decided to rely on statements that are “Directly” from FFGO.
Although I do and have valued the “opinions” of many here, I’ve decided to form my outlook of FFGO “BY” FFGO –THEMSELVES!
(Not that we have a choice) ->8^}
And not let my views be BIASED by a network of opinions and hunches read here.
I’ve also come to terms that the whole economy at this point is in shambles, it appears that many seem
to expect FFGO (a pinksheet company)..>8^}... to be unaffected by it.
While accepting, yet even expecting, 10 year old corporations to BE effected, so much so that a few even filed CH #11, in these tough times.
But FFGO is expected to turn a profit with no active products (at this time) to do so with? -LOL!
(That's confusing)
I mean, if Large corporations that traded in the $100/PPS are
now under $20/PPS, um, I think FFGO that traded in .0005/PPS
might teaste .0001/PPS with no Bid...um..right about now... -LOL!
BUT, all is not lost… the economy will bounce back (as it always does) and we’ll all start to see THAT effect later this year through 2nd quarter of 2009 and many bulging pockets by next spring, whether that be with FFGO or some other stock symbol, it WILL happen.
GO FFGO,, I’m Still with ya!
Maintaining TRUTHS requires 'little to no effort' than Maintaining LIES.
Now Now Young man! ...>8^}
FFGO ......how do we now stand?..=)
Hello ALL!!
I just got back from one hell of a ride with these stocks.
My pockets are running over =)
QUESTION!!,, Wondering How does the Record dates effects those shares what were R/S'ed to zero.. are those shares being re-instated? or are they just lost..
Or is the Record-dates referring to remaining balance of shares reorganized by the R/S.
Be that it may, FFGO has been Apparently Transparent
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO (center image) IN Transparent 3D! ..>8^}
Maintaining TRUTHS requires 'little to no effort' than Maintaining LIES.
SMWF – Primed for a good run, keep watch!
Recap of the last recorded display
Scroll down to 1:45PM, (Windows Media | Real player)
http://www.visualwebcaster.com/EQUITIESMAGAZINE/52047/event.html
In the listening, I’ve learned the following from Albert Reita, CEO.;
1. SMWF are pass the development stage and are now transitioning into the distribution stage. per time skew(14:50)
2. SMWF hasn’t yet generated major revenue beyond the sales of their software products. per time skew(15:06)
3. SMWF will be releasing their “Financial Statement” –Next Week! {10/13>>17/2008} per time skew(14:30)
4. SMWF has partnership with major players such as Garman(GRMN) and Microsoft(MSFT) per time skew(02:04)
5. SMWF will be attending the next CES, this year. per time skew(09:15)
6. SMWF has yet a newer version (Future Version) of the S-GEN to have a “Solid State Drive”, thus extending battery life from 8hr to 10>>12hrs per time skew(09:20)
7. SMWF has the attention of Government Agencies who initially didn’t deem the product as meeting their “Rugged Standards”, But with the Solid-State Drive Improvements, the product meets the government rugged Standards per time skew(09:44)
These are just a few highlights I thought were very attractive to me amidst all the fluff.
In other words,,, '$$$+'...=)
The fact being the S-GENS going Solid-state with their HDD, is in its self one hell of a seller.
as we all know, the unit WILL likely experiencing high impact at some point while in the hands of the public users.
Whereas, my confidence of product durability will greatly increase if I accidentally smacked all that technology off the table down the stairs where it then parked under the china.
Racing with panic, I rush to the unit, turn it on and aside from the bruise of the impact, it’s fully functional. (WHEW!)
I mean why buy a highly technical product that dies when thumped.
And as for the Solid-State Drive, the data access speed will greatly improve over the standard “Moving Arm” drives. –This in and of its self will give this product a leap forwards over their competitors. –Hands Down!
Also, the facts SMWF is holding patents on this unit, copies of it can’t be legally sold or marketed until after 20 years (when patent rights expire)
MEANING? – SMWF has one hell of a 20+ year monopoly on this genre of product!
“THEY’LL BE THE ONLY LEGAL OWNERS IN THE ENTIRE REGION”
And –“I” am holding their shares =)
“WHEN” not if, -but WHEN this product hits the market and the public finally gets “clued-in” as to what a beast of abilities growling within the walls of this product, the PPS will go to a 25 cents in a comparably short time!!
-And that’s grossly putting it mildly. –LOL!
(More like $1-$3/pps LOL! But we’ll keep it simple,, you know…like on the down-low.
-Wink-Wink…>8^}
BUT!!! yep, there’s always the But’s BUTT, ..>8^}….But- since there’s admittingly do Major revenue at this time, ya might want to keep thoughts open for an R/S at some point between now and the official release date.
Remember, although R/S’s does reorganizes the share structure(s), whereby, it rises the PPS but lowers your share count so that when multiplied together, they retain the same Market-Value of your holdings.
However, the (now increased by the R/S) PPS can still fall back to where it was prior the R/S while your (newly adjusted) share count stays the same.
Multiply “this time” against the lower PPS and your Market-Value follows.
On the other hand, following the R/S, the market only sees the sudden increase in PPS. (Rather than the R/S that causes it).
From this, many buyers will jump on board and likely send the PPS yet even higher which will likely then entice more buyers to jump on board and so on.
Existing shareholders can benefit greatly from this.
This is the POSITIVE side of the Dreaded R/S =)
Not to mention, BTW, following the sudden PPS Spike, many potential investors will be flagged into taking a peek at this stock and in doing so will learn of its product sale potential(s), if not already shipping or selling at time of interest.
In the market, BEARS and BULLS are like YEN and YANG –Both can be winners OR losers..=)
but not at the same time….>8^}
(SMWF L2 as at market closing on 10/09/2008, -for those who give a damn)….=)
Maintaining TRUTHS requires 'little to no effort' than Maintaining LIES.
Bought back IN, FFGO and holding.
BEEN RIDING THE STORM AND STAYING ALOFT!
..>8^}
WELP! FOLKS!,, I just want to say, I’ve had quite a ride and made loads of cash..
Sorry I had to sell off my shares here.
Although sold at a gross loss, which uncle sam will share when I file my next tax return...>8^}..., I used that money to fund other shares that were doing a lot better. (by no means was that meant to be an offense to this stock, as I wouldn't do that.).
With all my capital gains, I’ve acquired “EXTRA CASH” that I’ve used to buy back into this stock. 'YAY' ..=)
The sad thing is, I was so scared to sell as I kept thinking that while I was away, this stock would run and I’d lose out.
On the other hand, if I’d stayed, then I’d lose out on all the profits I've since made on other stocks...>8^}
YEP!! This was quite a gamble indeed.
Be it luck or otherwise, nothing happened to this stock while I was away, “WHEW”, and I’m happy to buy back my position in this stock.
I’ll need to read up on all the posts I’ve missed (this is going to be fun I’m sure), to get back into the sphere of things here.
Vianna? I missed you..=)
Actually, I’ve missed everyone here (Including the bashers) –LOL!
I found a sense of entertainment in all the negative remarks as they compete with the more positive ones –LOL!
Alan Santini? I still have faith in you!!! Just because I sold my shares doesn’t mean a damn thing against you!!,, I merely needed the money to jump in may hot stocks at bargain basement prices damn-near all over the place –LOL!
BUT, I’m back here as a shareholder..=)
By the way,, is the divvies at .239? or .0239?, I’m confused as to what it really is..
Anyone ELSE know?
Feel free to bring me up to speed!!!! Everyone!!!
I give thanks in advance
=)
Be that it may, FFGO I believe has still been Apparently Transparent
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO (center image) IN Transparent 3D! ..>8^}
Maintaining TRUTHS requires 'little to no effort' than Maintaining LIES.
No Offense but this stock ‘IPKL’ is Point-LESS!, at this time.
All the anger in the world wont do anything other than accelerate one’s ageing.
Why this forum still exists is very profound.
I was the biggest fan for this stock, encouraged family and friends to buy this stock only to be made a fool of.. –Through to this very moment.
YES,, it “MY’ Fault…. IPKL had nothing to do with that.
My believing in their products and their business venture was MY fault, not theirs.
IPKL, didn’t twist my arms and made me lose my money in their stock.
IPKL’s PR releases was ‘Standard Advertisement as usual’.
Whether IPKL knew in advance they had NO intentions of following through, or so, it was ‘I’ who read their PR’s and decided by what I’ve read that IPKL was a good stock to get into.
It’s NOT IPKL’s Fault that ‘I’ made a bad judgment call in my choice to invest in them.
I lost a great deal of money in this stock.
However, fortunately, I’ll claim a portion of my losses ‘HERE’ on my next tax filings.
Let the government’s entities pay for allowing companies like these to exist under their wing in the first place.
Next year, I’ll use THAT money to invest in companies that are more profitable and therefore incur gains that’ll recover the remaining balance of monies I’ve lost here in this stock.
Though I still believe in their product concept, I got the hell out. -QUICK!
In the current market with all the low PPS of companies that were otherwise on the S&P400-600, any money in this stock is best sold at a gross lost (Claim it on your tax filing) and then reinvested whatever you can get in the many hot market buys that are now out there, while you can.
I've sold all my shares here at a stupid loss but have since regained it 7'Fold in another stock....-NICE!
(What the hell was I thinking)
GO SPNG!!,,,,,,,,, (Yaaaaawn).. GO! GO!
I am very much rooting for this stock, however, I’m also getting bored of all the “WE’RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCES” being made in these PEP-TALK PR's.
The hell with all these damn (Time Buying) announcements, the product is Superb, sales are lined up, people are waiting so WTF is the hold up!
It'll be the spring of 2009 before ya know it and all I'll learn is more of what's "GOING" to happen than what actually happened?
I’d be “PLEASED TO HEAR” of solid sales that increases this piss poor PPS!….sheeeesh!
Enough with all the propositions, Acquisitions, THIS date, THAT date, THESE people THOSE People,
- GET THE HELL ON WITH THE BUSINESS ALREADY!!
- - MOVE IT!!!! –Damit!
SO, 'WaS', Are you saying WAMUQ was deceived??
If I read your comment correctly, it implied WAMUQ was handled wrongfully. Or perhaps was handled unfairly, yet alone was derailed from alternative opportunities, namely the 700B bailout plan that loomed the airways at the time.
If this is true, then WANUQ’s Lawyers may likely have a field day in court over this which than may lead to a roll reversal. –Whereas, WAMUQ many end up owning JPM!! (If not a good chunk of it, if JPM were found ‘IN’ on the deception)
Of course WAMUQ’s PPS would likely then become unreachable for many. –LOL!
BUT, all many not be too bad for those with lil-money if this happens.. =).. I mean,, after all, JPM might then become reachable =) -OOP! LOL!! let me stop.... I have shares there..>8^}
They're too big and powerful anyways....heh..
Nevertheless, it’s becoming more and more implicit that what ‘happened’, happen’ the way it shouldn’tve ‘happened’, as fast as it did.
With the passing of the 700B bailout, perhaps WAMUQ feels they’ve been sidetracked on purpose.
If Government seizure of WAMUQ had waited just a few days longer, the seizure would not likely have been required and the “Market Gods” only knows how much higher WAMUQ’s PPS may have been trading at NOW, even though it’s seemingly on the rise anyways.
ALL IMO…
LOL!!! 'zardiw' It sure does, I’ve cropped it out.
I'll call this, MRS. WAMUQ IS ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH TO A NEW LIFE -LOL!
Sorry,, I don’t know what even came over me…8^d
(Wondering she's gonna have octuplets)..=)
Original graph here >>> http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=32637929
Greeting earthlings!, the current PPS is out of this world! LOL!
Raindrop503 I agree!!, I did the same!!
I held a stock that tanked down to .0001 and stayed there.
(I wont name that stock,, in all due respect..)
I sold at a lost (Which I'll claim on my next tax filings)...>8^}... and invested here and recovered (x5) (then owe the IRS a small difference) -LOL!....COOL!
If I'd stayed in the other stock, I would not have made such gains.
This is what the VETS have been preaching all the long.
Don’t marry a stock, especially a Penny Stock.
WAMUQ, although trading in the pennies, it’s by far, FAR FROM a penny stock in a traditional sense.
And I must say,, when it rises, it will be one hell of a stimulus package for a lot of investors, which in turn will be one hell of a stimulus package to and for the economy!
I wouldn’t be surprised if the PPS rockets just in time for the upcoming holiday seasons!! (Thanksgivings, Christmas and more).
I for one am looking forwards to putting many smiles on many faces on Christmas day!! =)
WAMUQ Closing L2 as of 09/03/08
(for all who gives a damn =)
Nice that it closed UP!
(I’m starting to have sleepless nights)….>8^}
di4? that coincides with my post #8256 =)
Well, in some sense anyways.
RE: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=32603783
Although my comments regarded possible qualification for an annulment of said process, if those alleged findings, as referenced by your post, is said to be true, an annulment or some derivative of such can likely transpire.
And if it does, perhaps business of Washington Mutual may return to normal.
This may also include a return to a $20/PPS average which it traded for a straight 10 years up to this gross Dip in PPS..
OR at lease a hell of a lot higher than it’s trading now, if anything..
And I to agree with concerns regarding the speed at which the company was seized.
Then following this, Days Later, was the initiation of a 700B bail-out plan.
On the other hand, I understand the whole process was necessary actions to protect third party interests.
And in doing so, under what jurisdiction(s) did the plan fall under?
I also agree under the circumstance, the CH#11 was a necessary move.
And perhaps a smart “timely” one. =)
CH#11 can also be annulled if said terms and/or conditions thereof, are resolved. =)
WAMUQ Closing L2 chart as of 09/02/08
For all it’s worth, (to those who give a damn)...>8^}...this is how WAMUQ Closed today. 09/02/08
=)
(From all the reading, it appears many are interested)
=)
-Oh and um,,,,, “You’re very welcome”
>8^}
'TheAmericanDream' I 2nd your post and point out the last wordings;
RE: (In "WaMu Assets May Be Worth Far Less Than First Disclosed-Report," published at 9:47 a.m., the entity that made the statement, "it does not anticipate that there will be any recovery to the company for the common stock interest" was incorrectly identified.)
'WAMUQ' at these prices, I think the 700B Bailout may likely satify more that the market.
I consider this one hell of a 'Stimulus Package' for MAIN-Street as well.
There are many buyers here from all walks of life all over the world market.
As the PPS rises so will be the wealth of many and so will be the economy as those with new found wealth heads straight for the downtown district on a shopping spree. -LOL!
Even the government wins -All those with capital gains will owe the IRS a percentage. -LOL!
Although comparatively small, it’s still a percentage and multiplied by every person who acquired capital gains –LOL!
Then add all the other taxed entities both directly and indirectly.
SO even though the 700B Bailout may be passed, the GOV. will likely be getting 70% of it right back –LOL! Plus interests -LOL! -Shhhhhhhhhh! =)
CORRECT!!! WAMUQ $20/pps AVG for 10 straight years.
that's a hell of a lot of momentum!
WAMUQ it a raging Bull!
and at these prices, this bull is very pissed off!
I don’t advise Bullfighting at this time LOL!
It also learned how to sharpen it's own horns. ..>8^}
And it seems to me smirking….hmmm…I think it's planning on more than the red apron -LOL!
IT ever has “Backup”
https://www.wamu.com/personal/default.asp
“uh oh”
=)
WAMUQ May qualify for a CH#11 Annulment.
IMO, if the federally guided seizure of WAMUQ, (Aka. WM), to JPM was found to be in qualms of due process, the seizure may be nullified by court order.
If nullified, JPM would be obligated to release their seizure of Washington Mutual.
Washington Mutual may likely then take advantage of the proposed 700B bailout (assuming they'll have a need for it) and therefore having no need for Chapter 11 bankruptcy that may also be annulled.
Washington Mutual may then resume operations under their origional 'WM' symbol.
or will they proceed under the Existing one..
In either case, Stock prices may spike to the moon as all the buyers storm IN from every direction, before WAMUQ settles back to their $20/pps trading Averages –Over the last 10 years. before the crash.
And many investors would have one hell of a marry MARRY MARRY CHRISTMAS!!
=)
GOOD POINT!, but that's the way of the market =)
Isn't it exciting?
=)
I've long since stopped trying to make sense of it all in accordance to how "I" think it all should flow.
Each person who invests brings a host of scenarios and experiences to the table through which their decisions were made.
What’s even more profound is the “human” variable in the equation..
The “human’ equation is one that would leave home to get a box of laundry detergent and return with a 50” plasma –LOL!
-THEN ends up using dish washing liquid, because they forgot the laundry detergent –LOL!
This is why when I buy stocks, I’m always open for the unthinkable but also increase the ODDS in my favor using “DD”
What was that? RE: WM I,m going down with the SHIP or up with the HIP
?
-well while on that SHIP-trip, ‘Mr. Skip’ here’s a HIP TIP;
>8^}
DIP DIPS before ya FLIP!.
=)
WAMUQ L2 as of 09/02/08 @11:00am
For those interested.
Actually dipped .10 bid | .105 ask =)
Boom?,, no,, I think you meant, CA-Boom!...>8^}
or you can say BrrrrAING-SHUnnnnng-boom!
ok yall can take the ear plugs out...=)
'GS' is running too -Load up on'm =)
And to think many thought this stock was not going to rise -LOL!
And while they were busy "THINKING" I was busy "LOADING" -LOL!
now they're scrambling to load after complaining when it was at .08 -LOL!
AS I said before,, NO ONE knows what’s going to happen in the OPEN MARKET simply because the movement Variables involves MORE than just "ONE PERSON" own opinion -LOL!
There a WHOLE WORLD out there and to EACH is OWN!
For everyone who didn’t buy there were those who did...-World Wide! -LOL!
For those who were pessimistic, there are those who are optimistic.
For those who sold there were those who bought.
Whether or not they pass the 700B, that wont stop this stock from buyers and sellers.
All I can say,, umma git’m while they’re hot!
-LOL!
If it dips, I'll be dipping UP more -LOL!
REMEMBER! this stock traded over $20 for about 9 years straight!!
Hell if I miss this pps at under 20 cents!!
I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS! THIS IS GOING SUPERNOVA!
AND I AINT MISSING OUT ON IT!!
SAY WHAT YOU WANT
CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT
BUYER'S MARKET!!!!
All shares are at a all time low,, this is one hell of a window of OPS!!!
FFGO - is NOT a scam!.... sorry...>8^}
BEEN RIDING THE STORM AND STAYING ALOFT!
..>8^}
If they were, we'd not be the first (or the only ones) to know of it!
So far, the ONLY thing of discrepancy regarding this stock is the wearing of patience of those who are anxiously awaiting Divvies.
The stress has driven many into chronic creative complaints.
Often bottoming out with calling it a scam, validated only by their emotions.
This is why the rules are to invest what you can afford to lose, so that if the stock doesn’t move when YOU WANT IT TO, you wont be stressed into doubts that it EVER will.
I have many stocks that I'm in,, about 40 if my memory serves me right and counting!
Some have CUSIP’ed into oblivion(Damn-it), some went from .0001 to .50(Cool!), some went Reversed (banana) Split(oo'oo'oo'ah'ah'ah) heh, while others seem to not move at all (is that a turtle riding a snail?) and on and on and on.
What one loses the other gains and visa versa.
However, my overall capital gains are steadily increasing.
This is why I can wait for FFGO, it’s not the only stock I’m keeping tabs on.
I admit I sold at .0001 which may seem like a dumb move to many, but, it becomes a smart move, rather quickly when reinvested (as it were) and returned 5 times the amount -LOL!
Yea I may have lowered my divvy amount but I still have enough left in this stock to get a sizable amount and that's assuming the shares I currently own are qualified within the window of the "Record" date that has yet to be announced.
Sometime ya gotta do what cha gotta do.
But I still have a descent bundle I'll keep here and it's getting a-LONG....>8^}.... with this company just fine!
However, after selling at such gross losses here, I’ll claim the difference in capital losses here to offset the capital gains elsewhere… =)…..when I file my next tax return..-LOL!
Yes I’m a good friend of this stock, but not married to it…>8^}.
Be that it may, In fact, FFGO is Apparently Transparent
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO (center image) IN 3D –>8^}
GO FFGO! I’m still rooting for’ya!