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and so would we all...the financing is obviously the reason for my post. It's not like they have money coming out of their ears. 2-5k units may be a piece of cake out of petty cash but 500k+ units is someone elses cash...whos?...and how?...and when? Presales...partner...buyout? Who knows, but something needs to happen or it don't happen. This is the quiet time...and so we wait.
well NOW is the time Tyro as we need to have as many brain cells on the combinations and permutations of the possibilities of the outcome here.
Are we PROFILING the company? Hope so, cause we need to be prepared for anything. They are still sub penny and that will continue to dog them.... until they aren't. The time will come when that changes, but what will it take to get it done.....? Breaking out in to "REAL" money almost never happens...this one has a legitimate shot. Is the product the real deal...is Joe really on board... and can they deliver if the world responds by the millions....'scuse me, I feel a panic attack coming on!
in a previous PR MSI mentioned that "purchase order funding" would be an option to kick start the financing of the product. As the first 2-5k is underway (thanks Joe), I am wondering if this option is still a viable option for the second run of (not gonna get trapped in a number here guys) lotttts of units. If the first 2-5k is gobbled up maybe a 10-20% guaranteed refundable prepay might help prime the pump for the PO financing as well (if the wait isn't too long). Which brings up a second point....how long will the wait most likely be be for the second run of LOTS AND LOTS OF UNITS?? I BET JOE KNOWS!!
Not my area guys but just thinkin....... Just thinkin I need to call Casey Monday.!
Azbo....keep accumulating and you'll be able to purchase the town where you reside when VOIS knocks it out of the park.
Has a nice ring to it..."AZBOVILLE"
LOL Boris...he was the master of verbal disaster (for the sake of comical impact) crafted under the quise of unmitigated stupidity. An American icon and one of the greatest ever in baseball.
another one I like alot...
•If you don't know where you are going, you'll end up someplace else.
Yogi Berra
right now it feels likes 6 feet under but that you for the kudos.
VOIS is going to CRUSH....no freekin' doubt about it!!
They know and they're talkin'....it's just how many zeros do we need to WIN IT. There is no second place!
from my way of thinking, we are in the midst of a quiet period that Joe has carved out in order to finalize business dealings with a couple of "players that have made HIS final cut list". Those that have shown considerable interest in the VOIS product since the Beta testing was complete, coupled with a discussion of a preliminary financial "ballpark number" that wasn't far from reason in Joe's his mind. These company's BOD's require adequate time to deliberate over not only the proposed purchase itself but obviously THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT THAT MUST BE MADE TO ENSURE THAT THEY WILL IN FACT OWN THE COMPANY IN THE LEAD POSITION.(finishing #2 is like finishing last).
Can Vois deliver on their own on everything that's been planned for first quarter?...I believe that they can but I feel that it would most likely take every resource they probably have in financial commitments(?) to produce the product in mass.... and require purchasing superior expertise in marketing this product worldwide to the extent that it "must be" given the life changing events it will deliver to countless millions of individuals and industries for decades to come.
If I'm in a board room seriously looking at owning this company and product (which I have personally seen in operation..my assumption here) then I have decided that "I need to own it out of the chute" with our company name universally recognized as having delivered it to the world and with our company logo and "PRODUCT NAME" (any guesses?) emblazoned on the exterior of the piece from day one that it hits the streets....not MIND SOLUTIONS....OUR NAME. (and we have enough money to show Mr. Hawking wearing it in our full length professional video as well.... because we have billions upon billions).
All of this is totally my assumption based on the fact that a high flyer has seen it perform, wants it, needs it badly (LAGGING SALES OR MARKET SHARE and needs to catch up), and is willing to pay whatever it takes to be 1st in order to own it........now!! In 4 months they are a loser.
As a committed and heavily invested long of VOIS, I am all for the company finding its way on it's own but I also would relish a huge payday from whomever purchases this company in hopefully the near/or VERY near future.
If the products works as well as we all expect it does....and it sells as well as we all are sure that it will...then we all win either way. The High Flyers are well aware of that as well. They just need to adjourn the board meeting, make an appointment with Joe and write the check.
Don't purchase or sell Vois based on anything I have posted here. I have been all wet before and drowned a couple times but somehow survived to have one more chance to retire with VOIS....and I do believe that this is the last of my 9 lives. GLTA $$ GO VOIS $$
We can only hope that it's everything they have in the arsenal. Leave nothing in the bag and make sure it's a profession dynamo hitting every advertising medium possible.....and Joe can fund it!
I am not worthy(bowing) at this point in my life but I was doing what you are doing now as a parent when you were just a glint in your parents eye. No matter now. Make your decisions, adjust as necessary and then see things through. That's the only way to be true to yourself....win or lose. $GO VOIS$.
why are you apologizing Peter....to whom and for what? believe or not, and then we move on to tomorrow.
i wanted to ask...is it possible to be the second apple with this device, or other companys are better with this device?
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If the other companies are are all over this tech, they better come to market pretty fu**kin soon. If they are late to the party and want to eliminate the competition..I'm sure Joe will listen for 10+ figures. If I'm Apple knowing that I "almost have it, but not quite yet and can't beat the little guy to the finish line, then I either buy them out or steal their intellectual property if I can.
Your guess is as good as mine as to where it goes from there..... Joe Knows
tried to load the link a number of times and came up with a blank believing I was chasing a ghost. Wonderful news and detective work on your part. You definitely have the longs back here as do many others. We all have various levels of expertise in numerous areas and a wide range of emotions (hello !!) but it takes alot to bake a cake like this and if too many of the ingredients are left out before it goes in to the oven....there ain't nothin but SHIT comin out.....thank you Tyromaniac for dogging this.
have sent my entry in to MSI for the "name the device pool".
My into:
Control your world with the revolutionary "Mind over Matter" EEG/BCI one dry sensor earpiece....the smallest ever conceived, yet until now never able to be produced. Focus and manage your daily life today utilizing Mind Solutions' superior technology. That is......if you have a MIND to!
Send in your own thoughts...it can't hurt to get them thinking.
it's not if you only hit it once at the end of every sentence and then begin the next with a capital letter.
light1soldier....I pulled this up off of the yahoo board this morning which is typical of the retorts I receive from shorts to my posts as a long. This one however is quite interesting in light of your post here. Do you know earthrocker1????....it appears that you do.
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earthrocker1 • 4 hours ago
Go to USPTO.GOV patent application search. Enter PCT/US2012/049135 and learn the status of their B.S. EEG device application. It is in storage, never issued. Its function is to record EEG signals while listening to music, such signals to be recorded by Bluetooth on Pc's and smartphones. Recordings only from the temporal region of the brain are insufficient to allow the device to function as promised. It is a scam. Hate me, but do your own research to prove me wrong. If you follow the USPTO search, use the tabs at the top of the search results page to read their application abstract - four (4) claims, NO recent activity on the application. GET OUT!
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The only conclusion that I can draw from this is...."if it looks like a DUCK bla bla bla well you know the rest.
"mind over matter"
From the PR
"The Company is concluding a commitment from its supplier of components and is now finalizing minor ergonomic changes of the BCI device in order to begin tooling and manufacturing of the retail product."
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Read CLOSELY.....NOW FINALIZING MINOR ERGONOMIC CHANGES OF THE BCI IN ORDER TO BEGIN TOOLING AND MANUFACTURING. (what have you been doing since Nov 11?)
this means...we are still making ergonomic changes (supposedly a weeks worth or so) and don't know when we'll be finished and will then begin tooling, but we don't know when that will start because we don't know when we'll be done making changes. Who knows how long tooling and mfg will REALLY take....if we ever get there.
this is like a stab in the eye with an ice pick.
I received this from MSI this morning in response to 2 emails I sent them last week.
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Hello,
The update on the website has been initiated and the Company let them know they are taking too long to make the changes submitted. These changes are forthcoming.
Though we have let shareholders see a sneak preview of our completed product, we plan to have a product launch at the time the product is ready to deliver.
Skepticism of a working product should not come into play. When people questioned that with our prior applications, we delivered applications that can control the entire computer with the mind and play any PC video game on the market with your mind.
We appreciate your input.
-MSI
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Hello,
We will announce a pre-order available prior to the product launch. Shareholders will have first priority on this and we will ensure to have them available for you.
-MSI
where's your holiday spirit pepe oil? you are for sure getting coal in your stocking for Christmas...and VOIS shoved up your ying yang after the New Year. sure that will feel good....yes?
no doubt!
hope you know that I was agreeing with you (in my own sarcastic way). Was just enforcing the sentiment on this subject from many of the posts of this past weekend.
precisely!
shhhhhh Emptybones....not supposed to talk about that anymore. Companies that can't show that they are profitable don't get bought out. Never mind that the intellectual property is worth 10 figures....shhhhhh.
lol Braden129...very astute...very astute. I liked it.
Now give me something of SUBSTANCE from MS....................ding!..time's up. Better luck next time in mid December when we should have SIGNIFICANT changes in the flow of credible information from the company of major positive performance in critical areas of the 8-12 week plan . We will then be in week 5 (DEFCON 3 on my scale). Nothing solid in place by week 5....then you can "fugget aboud it" happening in 8-12. OMHO of course.
there won't be ANY marketing push unless they get on someones plate. These companies have other major accounts to satisfy with critical delivery dates. MS has been dancing around getting someone on board and it may not be an easy proposition to lock in their time frame once they decide to move...or how to move forward. How long does a full length PROFESSIONAL video take to produce anyway let alone all the other components of a full scale marketing campaign(especially given the holidays) and then make it all come together "when you need it to"
Who knows what's planned. Casey's answers appear to be canned from hearing multiple responses on this board and my experience with him as well. I'm really wondering about some of what he told me the last time we talked.
3rd week of 8-12 and all we know is "we're working on it". Makes me wonder what they are really accomplishing in ASIA.
Tomorrow is Dec 1 and number 6 on this list, if still a true statement, should raise some eyebrows.... for me it's concern.
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6)”They have not chosen a PR firm yet. They've gotten approached by a bunch of companies who are seeking 100-200 thousand dollar retainers. They don't have that kind of money right now”.
Joe has been on board since last May. I bet he had 100-200K just lying around in October and will on Dec 1 as well. If he has been and still is a willing investor as needed (per my conversation with Casey), why do we not have a PR firm yet?
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“They don't want to issue shares for it because they are waiting for the PPS to pop so they can pay off their PR firm with less shares at 1.2-1.5 cents/share than .03 cents per share, the level it's at right now”.
Since we passed up tapping Joe on the shoulder…we are now going to shift gears and bet on (hope for) the wild success of a future event (video) that will cover the retainer payment for us. All well and good in theory but it DIDN’T HAPPEN as we know. We are playing Russian roulette with funding a critical component that is planned to create the hype, buzz and hopefully wild anticipation of the product release date before it hits the stores. So now we have no Joe $$, a video that did nothing for the share value, an anemic PPS that’s barely higher than 1/10th of the value anticipated from the video that would pay for the retainer fee….and we still don’t have PR firm yet. A reasonable assumption would be that we don’t have the money now on Dec 1 after Oct and Nov have come and gone…. but the PR firm is a critical component to our success, so we will figure it out.
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“BUT REST ASSURED that they will spread nationwide awareness of the product in due time”.
WOW, rest assured of what?…that we don’t have a PR firm and maybe no way to pay for one? Who is “THEY” anyway, there is no THEY “to spread nationwide awareness to anyone in due time” (due time really nails it down). So have we now thrown in the towel and decided we don’t need a PR firm to promote our product utilizing every marketing tool imaginable before release to the public. And we will now wait until “due time” arrives to create our success because the product will speak for itself?
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“All of the pieces are in place for them to bring us profits that we couldn't, in all likelihood, ever duplicate for the rest of our lives”.
“All the pieces are in place”. Yeah right, show me!...You all decide for yourself-
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From where I sit this company “has lots of splainin to do” in the next 30 days on how this comes together in January for a successful February debut.
Joe may be on Holiday. But I would guess he has the Ball in motion.
Why do we have to guess this late in the game. This product goes on the shelves in 60 +- days (possibly) and he is the guy that makes sure it has a place to go. I guess they'll let us know when they're good and ready. In the loop only on a need to know basis it would seem.
emailed them this morning about this very thing (2nd time/no change). Also added another question....as important as Joe is to this whole operation (WE THINK), why do we never receive an update about his involvement and progress FROM HIM... Not ABOUT HIM....FROM HIM! Hope to goodness that he hasn't been just a name on the BOD all this time and is now taking the month of December off for some holiday R and R with his family. How would we really know one way or the other. I'll let you all know if I hear anything.
ok.... a nickel in Jan if you say so sir....but aren't we backtracking just a little from your prediction on the 12th that said we would be at a dime by now?
Billionairestatus12 Wednesday, 11/12/14 10:20:12 AM
Re: EmptyBones post# 37722
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.10 will be here in a few weeks no doubt about it
still no revised website with new earpiece prominently displayed and breakthrough technology explained on the homepage. Mis-spelled link to the new demo video for the earpiece has not been rectified. WTF.....this is getting bothersome!
I had a non scripted conversation with Casey about anything Vois related that he would converse about. A little up front chit chat about myself and the boards thoughts and without much hesitation he moved in to "can you imagine the number of applications for this product and what this technology is worth"? That turned in to a conversation about Joe and his role. I asked "is Joe actively involved with setting up distribution channels for the product... yes!/ is he an investor... yes if needed ! / is he actively marketing the company for sale... quote "absolutely and he is speaking with interested parties regularly and I wouldn't be surprised if he has one already".
He also noted that he takes calls from high profile investors inquiring about other companies such as Digital Ally Inc. DGLY....a major player in the body cams that are worn by police officers around the country. Their stock went from 3 to 30 the week that Ferguson broke out. Casey said that DGLY is his #2 request for information of the companies that he represents. He said hands down VOIS is #1 (and we think nobody knows about us....but they do!). We are flying under the radar here. He said (paraphrase) "the bears are obviously in control now but if you can hang in there for just a little while you can plan on spending a lot of time "fishin" in the future if that's what you enjoy, because you most likely will be very rich and able to afford to do whatever you wish.
you only have one chance to make a great first impression...use it wisely!
all the best that Thanksgiving, Christmas and the entire Holiday Season has to offer to all of you and your families. 2015 will be HUGE!
Thank you light1soldier. Not meaning to attack or harm any longs on the board. Getting very wrapped up in the importance of execution of critical events that are in the works for VOIS and the mind numbing value of the company that will very likely result from a fully functioning and versatile product professionally delivered to the millions that “just have to have it”.
Need to take a step back and distance myself a bit through the holidays. January will be off the charts with anticipation around here so getting charged up again is an absolute certainty.
we both have consumed the cool aid and wish for the same end result. So let's leave it at that because it's only going down hill.....roger dodger, over and out.
is that a color like red? I was wondering what that was....cool
"now as an invester, would you worry a little and like some info now and then....I do and would.."
We received major info lining out the next 12 weeks on Nov 11. This company use to go for 6 months or more with total silence and worse going on. I'm in this company up to my eyeballs and a couple weeks of patience is not a lot of brain damage for me until we hear where things stand.
Instant gratification is a horrible disease. Began in the 70's and is getting worse everyday. Call Casey daily if you need info. He will answer most everytime you call and let you talk your fool head off.
we already know where they are and the next release will come when there is something significant to release. No more fluff!.
you are correct Bison...no comparison to Apple by any means. But may just have something in their pocket that Apple can't possible live (or compete) without. The two companies may be one and the same soon....no facts, only speculation, but just sayin'.
AZBO is all over it. We are in the "tooling and manufacturing" stage which really could be labeled the "STEALTH" stage. It's killing most everyone 'not knowing' but it's the holidays...which couldn't be a better time for a quiet period while everyone is distracted and busy with family and events. January will be here before you know it and the marketing campaign will be kicking in.....then the party really gets started...oh yeah!.