Something about the "so what" BNPD theory that is floating around and such great DD that comes from the "so what" BNPD investment strategies. Some things like:

"So what" that the CEO of the company has a history of safety and permit violations with the state and questionable ways of doing business. One should always question and not just take the constant repetitious type statements that are only copied and pasted over and over from the company themselves.

“So what” legal council has a dubious history with stock manipulation, consulting shares with what becomes bankrupt companies, connection with known foreign scam stock promoters or promotions. An attorney who has been suspended permanently from the appearing or practicing before the SEC commission. Great legal council to deal with the SEC and supposed "up listing".

“So what” if BNPD is just another continuous pinky hype and nothing but promotional pump with the same old "up listing" pinky talk that very rarely ever comes to pass. The hype that the four letters are changing and BNPD will make everyone rich kind of hype.

“So what” that any real DD on the company and its associates is just hyped away or sluffed off with more one line BNPD hype or "so what" type statements.

So what? A very questionable BNPD investing strategy and listening to anything that comes from the "so what" BNPD hype sure brings on certain criteria in ones thinking of BNPD.

Now of course just trading the BNPD hype is quite something else, but there is realization to the fact that with every pinky BNPD pump comes with it the BNPD dump at some point. When it happens, it takes it down so that it creates nothing but BNPD losses.

But hey, so what? Right.

To funny. What, miss all those BEHL "gifts" that the "turn around" expert was giving out? LOL

Well there are more desert sea-monkey shares of BEHL to be had. One can throw some money away and buy as much as one wants at the local Pinky "market" gift shop in the intermission of the BEHL R/S movie playing near you. LOL

Ah, the old ridiculous "FORD" talk made by the same ones who were talking "FORD" over a year ago when BEHL was being bought for thousand upon thousands of percent more than it is now.

Buying and/or holding BEHL is kind of like buying "FORD" now (or then) for what $1,000,000 a share? LOL Total loss.

Still nothing to do with BEHL due to again over and over again on the "FORD" subject, BEHL is not a real company, just a very dirty POS shell that and nothing but liars and thief's behind it as promoters with just a super sub penny pinky with its over-bloated share structure about to get worse with the only spin is to talk about some unconnected subject like "FORD" stock. LOL

Of course the timing of buying and holding BEHL when it was %1000's higher does show some of the worst investment strategies that the "market" has. Bad strategy that the "market" continues to have to offer due to buying BEHL now will just be worth again in the future something to talk about that is 1,000% in the hole again after the R/S.

By Tom Hals

WILMINGTON, Delaware | Fri Jul 8, 2011 4:54pm EDT

WILMINGTON, Delaware (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court's dismissal of a massive sex-bias case against Wal-Mart Stores Inc may have handed Wall Street a new weapon in its battle against angry investors who lost billions on securitized home loans.

At first glance, last month's ruling in the Wal-Mart case may seem far removed from lawsuits over complex mortgage investments blamed for helping to trigger the global financial crisis in 2008.

But attorneys are seizing on the Supreme Court decision as they fight to prevent pension fund investors from banding together as a class to pursue claims they were misled about bonds built from flimsy mortgages.

In the Wal-Mart case, the Supreme Court on June 20 found that 1 million current and former female employees from 3,400 of the retailer's stores had too little in common to form a class. The court's language about issues of a "common question" could, according to attorneys arguing for the banks, also bar mortgage bond investors from suing en masse.

Lawyers defending a unit of Washington Mutual argue that the "commonality" that was missing among the female Wal-Mart workers is also missing among investors in securitized mortgages, even when they invested in the same pool of loans.

They made the argument in court papers filed on June 22 arguing against certifying a class of investor plaintiffs suing Washington Mutual. The case is pending in District Court in Seattle.

If successful, the defense tactic could prevent investors in mortgage-backed securities from pooling their resources and bringing a case as a group. That could make it more difficult for them to pursue cases against big issuers of mortgage bonds, such as Bank of America Corp and JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The Washington Mutual legal team referred questions to JPMorgan, which bought the bank in 2008. JPMorgan declined to comment on Friday.

CLASS SYSTEM

The Wal-Mart case was closely watched and the ruling is expected to make it tougher to bring class-action cases, which are often used in drug and product liability lawsuits and have led to mammoth settlements with consumers or shareholders.

The Supreme Court decision steers courts away from certifying broad classes of plaintiffs while leaving the door open to breaking out sub-classes later, said James Cox, a professor at Duke University Law School.

In the mortgage market, banks securitized home loans by collecting large pools of mortgages and placing them with a trust. The trust then issued bonds cut into "tranches," each carrying a different credit rating. The higher-rated tranches were paid first from the money flowing from homeowners.

Courts already have denied class status to investors who sued on behalf of all others who bought bonds issued by different trusts that were set up by a particular bank or mortgage company, such as Countrywide Financial.

The Supreme Court's Wal-Mart decision may help narrow the class scope further, separating tranches within a particular loan pool trust.

In their court papers, Washington Mutual lawyers cite the Wal-Mart decision for their argument that each tranche of the mortgage-backed security needs to be analyzed separately to determine which loans back which tranche, and whether those loans were properly written.

"Even if plaintiffs seek to ask the same question across all loan groups and all securities, unless they can be assured of getting the same answer, no class can be certified," the court filing says.

The Wal-Mart ruling is the first case cited in Washington Mutual's argument. The company's lawyers also cite the decision to make their point that each tranche must be evaluated separately, not lumped together merely because they have common legal claims, according to the court papers.

Thomas Hatch, an attorney who has brought mortgage-backed securities cases but is not involved in the Washington Mutual lawsuit, said courts are right to narrow classes to a single trust, but he disagreed with cutting to the tranche level.

"The defendants are wrong in claiming you have to be in the same tranche to be in the same class," said Hatch, because those various slices of the bond rely on the same offering document. "It isn't tranche specific, it is trust specific."

The Seattle federal court will take up the Washington Mutual class certification issue on July 27.

The case is In re Washington Mutual Mortgage Backed Securities Litigation; U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington, No. 09-00037

(Reporting by Tom Hals; editing by Martha Graybow, Gary Hill and Andre Grenon)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/08/us-mortgage-backedsecurities-litigation-idUSTRE76765I20110708

+1 There is no such thing as "free shares". That is money in one's pocket, it was earned, and if one looses that money with trying to trade or invest in POS like BEHL, that is called "bad strategy" and "bag-holding".

Kind of like taking one's two week paycheck and throwing it down the drain (BEHL) without even cashing it and then saying "it was free". LOL

Well the share structure for the other stock (that BEHL had no money for to continue the SCAM that Pawson and gang were trying to do) allowed it to have the hype, hype's dog, and the hypes dog fleas to be able to get some pump going (finally) and ability to trade it up and down (at least if one always watches for the dumping).

Same reason that BEHL was able to do a PUMP and DUMP scheme a couple of years ago with a now shut down PSC. The share structure allowed for it.

I'm afraid the hype and/or pump won't touch this with a ten foot pole (a smart decision) due to the lousy share structure of 15 BILLION and dirty debt dumping that the ticker will continue to do. Just not that much sucker money available and trading availability to battle the “debt dumping” and dirty people behind the ticker.

Now there is supposedly some “sale of the shell” of BEHL, but I have my doubts that any full release of Pawson and gangs interest in this is being done. Just more phony business, with a newly formed website that can be done from any home computer with a new name to replace the imaginary “Burton” with. It doesn't really matter, it's the debt and share structure one has to contend with mostly here with the dirt that compounds the situation.

We at least maybe have some name and daughter that might be real, but that guy and previous business has just history of failed attempts and the last filing or actions were just checks returned due to NSF for the State filing fees years ago. I’m not even sure the guy is healthy and it’s not just the daughter handling the paperwork (if there really is much of that other than fluff PR’s or minimal state filings).

It’s real curious the connection Pawson and gang chose to continue this charade with. But it’s a pinky world, and phony CEO’s, phony business, imaginary product, phony PR’s, phony web-pages, and criminal activity are running rampant. At least we can be thankful that with a words like “bio-waste management” that it is just a phony business to sell more shares with or at the most try to sell some idea of cheap toilets that are portrayed in cartoons like “King of the Hill”. That’s about the only “bio-waste management” I would rather them do.

But here is a couple of posts I made, one over a month ago and another almost two months ago that are basically still holding true. The share structure here will just kill the ability to trade or invest without losses. Hopefully some took the opportunnity of selling into the fluff PR and was able to get out while the ability was there or what little ability is left.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63736665


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63304369

Well I guess crime might have a chance of paying better if the name of the Lord or other religious sanctity gets invoked.

On the other side of the coin (In God We Trust) we have this:


By David Henry

NEW YORK | Thu Jul 7, 2011 2:14pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co agreed to pay $211.2 million to settle federal and state charges that its employees rigged bids for derivatives sold to at least 48 cities and charities.

The deal, which includes 25 state attorneys general and five federal regulators, is the biggest yet in a continuing industry-wide investigation.

Since December, Bank of America Corp has agreed to pay $137 million to settle charges and UBS has paid $160 million, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission, which has been part of all three cases.

Former JPMorgan employees submitted sham bids when seeking to provide derivatives to municipalities and not-for-profit organizations, law enforcers said. The bank also communicated with competitors to fix prices as part of a scheme that began as early as 1997 and continued into 2006, law enforcers said.

Nine former employees have pleaded guilty to crimes and nine others have criminal charges pending, according to a statement from the U.S. Department of Justice.

The bank itself avoided prosecution for bid-rigging and manipulation by cooperating and admitting what happened as well as agreeing to pay fines and restitution and put in place new controls over employees, according to the Justice Department.

The department said it has agreed not to prosecute as long as the bank "satisfies its ongoing obligations" under its settlement agreement.

"This fraudulent conduct completely manipulated the playing field and left public entities like governments and nonprofits at a serious disadvantage," New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said in a statement.

JPMorgan said in its own statement that "the firm's policies -- both now and during the period in question -- expressly prohibit the conduct that gave rise to these proceedings."

The bank said it has tightened its supervision and set up new surveillance programs to ensure compliance with the law. It dissolved its municipal derivatives desk in 2008.

While the bank said it is paying $211.2, the SEC put the figure at $228 million. JPMorgan spokesman Joseph Evangelisti said the SEC's figure double-counts $17 million which is being distributed to various regulators, municipalities and not-for-profits.

(Reporting by David Henry, additional reporting by Karey Wutkowski and Jeremy Pelofsky in Washington and Joan Gralla in New York; Editing by Matthew Lewis, Bernard Orr)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/us-jpmorgan-settlement-idUSTRE76641220110707




One might think that over $200 million is a pretty good number, but for JP Morgan and Chase, it's questionable. JPM up today with all the news.




By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK | Thu Jul 7, 2011 3:57pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal appeals court threw out a lawsuit accusing JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) of violating U.S. racketeering law by conspiring with Bernard Madoff to further his Ponzi scheme.

Thursday's decision, in a case brought by a Florida partnership that invested with Madoff, came less than two weeks after the trustee seeking money for Madoff victims separately filed an amended $19.9 billion lawsuit against JPMorgan, accusing it of enabling Madoff's fraud and ignoring red flags.

The trustee, Irving Picard, is trying to use the same racketeering law to recover as much as $58.8 billion from dozens of European defendants in his largest Madoff lawsuit.

In Thursday's decision, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals of New York rejected an allegation by MLSMK Investment Co that JPMorgan violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) by conspiring with Madoff to "fleece" customers, and failing to freeze his accounts.

MLSMK, based in Palm Beach, Florida, said it lost its $12.8 million investment with Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC when Madoff was arrested on December 11, 2008. It sought to hold JPMorgan liable for conspiracy under RICO, which allows treble damages, by aiding and abetting Madoff's fraud.

But Judge Robert Sack, writing for a three-judge panel, said a federal ban on civil RICO claims based on securities fraud also covers aiding and abetting claims.

"As the plaintiff concedes," he wrote, "the purpose of the bar was to prevent litigants from using artful pleading to bootstrap securities fraud cases into RICO cases, with their threat of treble damages."

District Judge Barbara Jones had dismissed MLSMK's RICO claim on different grounds. The 2nd Circuit had on June 6 also upheld her dismissal of four New York state law claims.

APPEAL POSSIBLE

"The circuit essentially said aiders and abetters of securities fraud have a free pass, because plaintiffs cannot sue them for securities fraud or RICO," Howard Kleinhendler, a partner at Wachtel & Masyr representing MLSMK, said in an interview. "I don't think that's a correct result, or what Congress intended."

He said his client may appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Patricia Hynes, a partner at Allen & Overy representing JPMorgan, called the decision "a very important ruling."

She said it resolved a split of opinion among judges in the 2nd Circuit, and makes clear that plaintiffs cannot do an "end run" around laws barring RICO claims based on securities fraud by presenting their claims differently.

Picard filed his $58.8 billion lawsuit against dozens of defendants including Austria's Bank Medici AG, its founder, Sonja Kohn, and Italy's UniCredit SpA (CRDI.MI). He alleged $19.6 billion of damages, which could be tripled under RICO.

Thursday's decision "could be problematic for the trustee" in that case, Kleinhendler said.

A spokeswoman for Picard had no immediate comment. A UniCredit lawyer declined to comment.

Picard has filed roughly 1,050 lawsuits on behalf of Madoff victims to recover more than $103 billion.

Madoff, 73, is serving a 150-year prison sentence.

The case is MLSMK Investment Co v. JPMorgan Chase & Co et al, 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, No. 10-3040.

(Editing by Steve Orlofsky)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/business-us-madoff-jpmorgan-dismissal-idUKTRE7666R820110707?type=companyNews

Thanks once again for your work and summary there nodummy (also a shout out of thanks to samsamsamiam for his posts). It never ceases to amaze me how much swill can swirl around in a sewer. Your statement of

I would say a pretty accurate one.

Of course all of this has solidly confirmed everything basically most of us have been saying all along. Phony business with phony names like Mike Burton (nonexistent and imaginary) which along were just a toxic shell debt dumping to clean up enough to sell or maybe just partially sell the shell. I still wouldn’t put aside that there may be some fact that Pawson and gang would have some interest going to still be in this.

Doesn’t matter, plenty of dubious characters to go around and as I and many others have stated an R/S or increase A/S then R/S is inevitable. We don’t even know if this character Brian Zola is even real or just as Burton was a name to put on a piece of paper, this person is just another “name” only.

Now the character Ed Litwak comes up quite a bit though as you’ve noted. A few other names connected to him are:

Tren Property Corp. (which comes with its own story of accusations and just too much to confirm at this point)

Gemma Global, Inc (formerly Tren Prop Corp)

Pioneer2000, Inc (name change from Gemma Global while increasing share structure ,then changed name into Cavalcade of Sports Media)

Cavalcade of Sports Network (merged into Cavalcade of Sports Media)

There are more connections, but the post here is going to get a little long and I’m containing it to just a couple of links, which are going to direct to quite long data themselves. There were names also given in previous posts. I’m not as good as nodummy, but I’ll practice here a little.

The general sense from reading through financials, filings, etc is that this guy can really burn through some cash, expenses, and defaulted debt while little to none income comparatively. At least no real positives for the shareholders.

But it getting late and my eyes are getting older with so many numbers and data, so anyone can go through the data themselves and form their own opinion. He has gone through filings with the SEC, but it now seems that it is getting down to dealing with POS like BEHL toxic shell with its massive debt and ungodly share structure with the dubious characters behind it.

http://secwatch.com/filings/view.jsp?formid=5432003 (lot of white space in-between data, so scroll down a lot)

http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHTML1?ID=1603606&SessionID=rLklHFq_OCp6n47

There also is a note to rent paid for office space in the residential address given in one of those links if I’m remembering right.

Along in between, our “new leader?” is getting himself into trouble and in court for things like trade/patent infringement, violation of judges orders, and contempt. This one in particular is in connection to the names Jennifer Gucci and/or GEMMA Gucci (Gemma Global)
http://www.counterfeitchic.com/Cases/Gucci_v_Gucci.pdf

Of course there is more, but the BEHL saga continues.

Ok, audited financials bad before filing for a supposed up-listing. The pinky "waiting for big deals" theory is better way to go. Carry on folks, back to the BNPD hype, if it's all we have, its all we have.

That what I said, "awareness promo", the same as "paid to promote awareness". No big deal, just like other pinkys. It is what it is, just was hoping for something different. Like real audited accounting, the famous hyped up up listing, filings with the SEC, the things that aren't like other pinkys.

It's the bottom alright, jeez I spit out my coffee from the laughter. Where is that filing? Auditing? Ticker change?

Nothing but paid promo, pure and simple. That and future looking statements, just like a pinky.

The more recent buzz words. "Awareness" promo or campaign. Great news. All the hype every day for such "news". Quite a let down. lol

Thats the news? What a flippen joke. ROFL Paid promotion and decoder ring that just an advertisement. No filing of uplisting, no accounting firm, no ticker change. What an exciting event. Just more hype. LOL

What DD was that? I didn't see any from the source you spoke of.

Well links to legal suits, suspensions, CEO permit and safety violations have been given, but I'm a true believer that one should be taught to fish instead of just continuing to supply the factual documented and linked fish. Another fact along with all the others that I have spoken on with BNPD legal council record is that no matter how many fish that one lays out and another denies that the fish are even there, the real fish (or facts) are so much better tasting if one does the BNPD pinky fishing for themselves.

So here is some help.
http://www.google.com/

Or another one
http://www.pacer.gov/

Lots there and where a lot of BNPD fish/facts are supplied. Might even find some REAL defense to so much negative history, although I have my doubts. Maybe somewhere out there can even be a substantiated link of the gagged share structure. It's a start anyways. Better than just going on all the BNPD hype or just trying to discredit others documented links. Maybe someone can bring some of their own BNPD links to the table. Good luck.

Again, why are you asking me to do the work. I have given links, it would start just filling up the board with links. Really, it is pretty easy to find. What one can't do is post the gagged share structure or link to any confirming of share structure. The unaudited financials sure weren't complete, no attorney letter, so much for that link.

My links easily explain my facts so that I'm as you stated "comfortable with" my DD. I suggest anyone to be comfortable with their DD or lack there of.


The fact remains that as of now BNPD hype of up listing and audited financials is just that, pinky hype.

I've already supported what were not accusations, but just statement of fact. It is what it is. Now defense against my stated documented fact is what is still being waited on. I stated facts and gave links, if one wants to like those type of facts and history, thats their choice.

Still doesn't say much for the hype of BNPD, or actually it says a lot. LOL

But of course I have links to documents explaining reasons for my statements with hours and hours of personal DD, but do I have to do everything? I thought it was determined that anyone could Google around with BNPD? Why show link after link after link, I've done some, someone else's turn, there's plenty of BNPD DD and links still out there. Not my job to defend the guy, someone else can have that. I might give a link from time to time, but it's not my habit to do all the BNPD shareholders work.

If one is happy with the type of attorney services Kagel has done and his documented history, fine, their choice.

I'm just saying I would have liked to see different council and IMO better reputable council that would be more experienced in the matters dealing with successful and positive communication and filing with the SEC and a named accounting firm in order for all the constant BNPD hype of up listing and ticker name change to have any validity at all.

Maybe we'll get those things in the future, but as of now, it just looks like the same old pinky BS and any BNPD trading or investing should be done accordingly JMHO.

It's what he's thriving on is the point I guess and the new management chose to keep him, didn't have to. The company he keeps and cases he's involved with are quite telling IMO. Scam companies such as this one in cases such as this which by the way lost to a tune of 8.3 million dollars against who he was defending:
http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/g/galaxy_stipulation.pdf

Other legal battles against him for manipulation of company shares, giving money to known scam operators, consulting in failed shells but selling his shares for profit, the shareholders of the failed company didn't get it, but he thrived. Great company he keeps and thrives on. There just too much on what exactly he "thrives" on.

Says a lot for the "company" he chooses to "thrive" on now. Still not too good for shareholders IMO or for a company supposedly that needs to comply with the SEC and up listing requirements.


That is if thats the real plan, for the same old pinky up listing and then never happens BS, he probably a good choice (other than loosing millions of dollars for companies he defends, maybe it would have been more of a loss if he wasn't "thriving", not sure.)

That was just the State Bar actions that you are speaking of. He's still "permanently suspended" from going before the SEC. Like I stated, if one knows how to google, then it will produce many more links of negative involvement. One can do that, but my point is that it is not the best legal council to be dealing with nor is it proper professional association for "getting ducks in the row" for a supposed up listing.

What it portrays is negative connotations about the decision making abilities or it's great legal council for going with the same MO as all the negative links and googling that one can do.

I would definitely hope for a better legal team with quite the opposite history as the one that is listed for BNPD as of now. Just my take. But defending such an attorney is not my cup of tea, it was only statements of fact and I would hope for investors (the rare breed of ones who supposedly HOLD) a better history could be made than the history of the current legal council and history of safety and/or permit violations by the CEO.

Lets get a valid named accounting firm and legal team that can deal with the SEC criteria. Until then, it's all just BNPD pinky hype.

Among the myriad of other dubious consulting, legal battles (or illegal battles), shell involvement, and legal counseling that can produce links, the guy has followed up with giving money to known foreign scam stock promoters or promotions with this article, a little more current.

Full story here
http://sharesleuth.com/investigations/2011/01/you-wont-find-s-paul/

The old happened a decade ago just doesn't fly. What part of "permanent" needs to be understood? Like that means forever. The old decade ago theme is used in statements like “lifelong oil man”. What’s good for the goose, one knows the rest. It is the legal counsel given by the company and any “thinking” otherwise will have to be information from the company. Name the legal counsel.

Still not too good of “getting ducks in a row”, or is it? Depends on what “ducks” the company needs to look at I guess. Personally I would rather see different actions or decisions for those “ducks” to instill a “real” company instead of the same old pinky “up list talk”.

The legal council of BNPD and what type of supposed professionals associated with this company has everything to do with BNPD. Especially if they want to deal with the SEC and other regulatory bodies.

I'll correct, I meant to say "permanently suspended" not "permanently barred". Sorry about that, not sure if it makes a difference.

David Kagel (legal counsel for BNPD).

NOTICE OF PERMANENT SUSPENSION ENTERED AGAINST DAVID KAGEL
Today the Commission announced that David L. Kagel has been permanently suspended, pursuant to Rule 2(e)(3)(ii) of the Commission's Rules of Practice, from appearing or practicing before the Commission. The permanent suspension is based upon a permanent injunction, entered on April 6, 1994, in SEC v. David L. Kagel, et al., civil Action No. 930855-ER (C.D. Cal.).
The Court determined, as alleged by the Commission in its complaint, that Kagel orchestrated a fraudulent scheme to take a private company, The Magic Group, public by way of acquisition by a public shell company, Wetherly Venture Associates, Inc., which was to then become known as Mag ic Restaurants, Inc. Among other things, as part of the scheme, the Court recognized that Kagel, as the attorney for Wetherly, prepared and filed with the Commission's Los Angeles Regional Office a registration statement for an initial public offering on Commission Form S-18, an amendment thereto, four post-effective amendments, and a current report on commission Form 8-K, which contain false and misleading statements of material fact. Accordingly, the Court determined that Kagel committed repeated and deliberate violations of the federal securities laws, he knew of the violations, and that he attempted to conceal his violations from the Commission even after being specifically asked by the staff.
2 NEWS DIGEST, september 26, 1994

Based upon these findings, the Court permanently enjoined Kagel from violating section 17(a) of the securities Act of 1933, 15 U.S.C. 77q(a),section 10(b) of the securities Exchange Act of 1934 (Exchange Act), 15 U.S.C. 78j(b) and Rule 10b-5 there under, 17 C.F.R. 240.l0b-5. The Court also enjoined Kagel from failing or causing the failure to file timely and in proper form with the Commission accurate and complete information and documents as are required to be filed pursuant to section l3(a) of the Exchange Act, 15 U.S.C. 78m(a), and the commission's rules there under. (ReI. 34-34680)

http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/1994/dig092694.pdf

Well I admit, there are worse shells to get into, but there are always issues. The magnitude or what are all the issues are a question. Hard to know what the previous owner has involved still in the company. Those kinds of facts are not very commonly told by new shell owners and haven't been told by BNPD.

Ducks in a row? I wouldn't say that. For a real oil company, and a company real intent on uplisting, an audited financial should have come out with an auditing company already hired, not just talk and future looking statements.

No talk of hiring or hired legal team that are just statements that are common in pinky land, but who are they, are they reputable and are they successful in going in front of the SEC.

All BNPD has now is an attorney listed as council who is permanently barred from going in front of the SEC due to illegal actions with shells, who is connected to pinky scams, named in legal suits for manipulation of shares of shells, and involved with failed or bankrupt shells or companies.

That's not too good of pick in legal council and decision making in my book. Nor is it getting "ducks in row". Unless there are other not so good alternative motives for the shell or company. JMO

I don't think any "BEHL fiasco" is of issue here. At least any of that once connection is portrayed at this point. But the company will have to deal with whatever problems they have inherited from the BNPD shell. I would suspect that there are real issues from the old shell that are just inherited and can't easily be dealt with, at least not quickly, no matter how much anyone wishes the current management could or would.

Why "days" of filing anything and any ticker changes has now turned into a month or so and is continuing to drag out and only subject of company hype.

So no confirmation of stated share structure and only a posting from a supposed conversation with a Pinky IR. Got it.

Gagged or not gagged? Did financials confirm all the share data or only part? Of course the financials weren't audited or even an attorneys letter following, but at least BNPD posted something although I believe it was just enough to gain some sort of OTC tier and that's what the purpose was for at least a main part of reasoning.

Since we seem to be on the topic of “my doubts”, I believe that having “doubts” in pinky PR’s and promos (whatever one wants to describe them as) is good for investment strategy or even trading strategy. When I see nothing but hype for the company, BNPD included, my “doubt” starts. Other than recommending anyone to have “doubts” in pinky PR’s (which BNPD is a pinky), I don’t have much to say about it. One can think whatever about “my doubts” as one wishes.


But I do search around with those doubts, like when there is so much repetition how great the CEO or owner of the company is and over and over again stating the same line copied from the company website or other common pinky data from the companies posted resume.

When the question was asked

And it was answered by that he didn’t have any experience in leading with any of those other companies and only about his lifelong experience with oil. That “experience” directed to the fact that his “leading” had some issues.


Issues with violations and IMO sloppy work that could cost shareholders money and expense if that was the type of “leading” Tom Gouger had done or would be doing. Safety issues that very well could cost more than money or expense, but loss of life and damage to surrounding environment (more expense and loss for the company and shareholders)
http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/meetings/ogpfd/2-60555-DEF.pdf

http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/meetings/ogpfd/3-51617.DEF.pdf

http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/meetings/masterdefault/2009/og-mas-def04-28-09.pdf

http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/meetings/masterdefault/2009/og-masdef-031109.pdf

What is the number for everyone of the TA so anyone can verify that? Info from IR's aren't usually the best place for company verifications down here in pinky land.

But the TA letting everyone know the share structure might be a good fact to have here, so posting the phone number for the TA and verified info from the TA would be a good thing.

One can go with that BNPD and other pinkys PR's are not "promos". LOL That's as good as the statement that was made that they can't put out anything but the truth in a PR. LOL

I see, I guess the public PR's are free, wow. I always thought that companies paid for them. LOL Also as stated before, "promos" as you stated come in all shapes and sizes, paid by the company BNPD directly, indirectly, or not.

As far as the company selling, if that is what you were referring to, not sure, but that is what buying a shell and going public is. Financing through shares, that part is not anything new.

And "paid" promos don't have to be proven, it's pretty much excepted that BNPD will be no different than any other company and have to pay for them. Along with many descriptions of what exactly "paid" is.

That prediction that has been repeated over and over hasn't yet come true. All the predictions that have been made of PR happening tomorrow, next week, etc, have just come and gone.

Sure, if it is stated every day (or several times a day) "PR coming tomorrow", sooner or later it probably will come true. BNPD should have a PR at some point, but the "prediction" to be "bet" with may not even have as good as 50/50. At least all the betting for the last BNPD predictions of "PR tomorrow" have lost. Timing not so good.

But like I said, sooner or later there should be some promotional backup with a paid PR for BNPD selling in to.

The older and wiser will be waiting to sell right before or right after the PR. And the newbies? Yep pretty silly.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=64878070

I guess lunchtime wasn't so great. LOL

There is always other options than just feeding Pawson's pockets and paying his mortgage payments.

I hear the food banks are in dire need, maybe cancer research, just giving to the poor might be better option if one just wants to throw money away.

There is always thousands of other pinky pos that aren't quite so obvious and might have a better chance of return.

Pretty obvious of who "they" are, Pawson and gang have become one of the NO BID - .0001 stock kings. LOL

Predictions weren't too far off.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62767059

And my response

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62769266

Especially NO BID pos with practically no volume if any volume at all. A horrific 15 BILLION share structure, debt ridden shell with no business, no product, no address, no contact for it.

This thing has got to be one of the worst opportunities for trading I've ever seen. One sure can't use a chart on this kind of thing, totally worthless, other than maybe a longer term chart showing the total pump and dump scam (SEC labeled) and going down to the complete dead horse of NO BID and inevitable R/S if it doesn't totally get shut down by the regulatory authorities first or stay in a dormant stage for another year.

Good way to loose following I guess, I'll have to just chalk it up as maybe a Saturday night oops or a little too fast of skimming over stocks. We all do that at some point, the key is catching ourselves. But there is no Humpty Dumpty hype to put this thing back together, the share structure and lack of liquidity alone will put an end to that.

Nothing to see here folks (nothing to play either).

I was just about to go back and add about the expense. That is part of the issue of difficulty. When the expense just gets too great, it just makes the total lack of ability or give reason to do it. Expense is always a big factor.

Like I said, I think that difficulty to get anything at all out of ones shares of BEHL is going to continue to get worse and lack of ability more prevalent.

I guess no hope for Penson to handle it then. LOL This will continue to have negative effect and I suspect that there will follow more brokers and/or clearing firms that will be making it tougher and tougher or quite impossible to sell ones holdings (little as they may be) especially with trip zero - NO BID stocks like BEHL.

One might think about getting out while the getting is not so good, because any "getting" just may become non existent real "soon".

Again let me refer you to this post, it's not that hard to understand.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=64841861

I could also refer to all the other posts with all the issues and facts that one cares not to address or truly debate due to there is no real debate and only dirty shell BS and any positive spin on the ticker BEHL anyone could possibly attempt to give is, well, refer to that post given.

Refer back to this post

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=64841861