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nabbed 8000 shares @ .07...news has HUGE implications imo
I will be following MODC closely as this is yet another example of the public's perception of "news" and wholeheartedly agree that MODC could see a nice pop. Once I see some movement on this one, I will jump on board.
Chromosomal anomalies are but one known cause among of cancer among many and certainly there remain many others yet to be elucidated.
However, and as an FYI & to keep it "real", Scientific American is NOT a peer-reviewed medical journal and its primary audience is the lay population-at-large who are interested in science.
Furthermore, Peter Duesberg has been for quite a long time a very controversial scientist. He is best known in the scientific/medical community for his continued denial that HIV is the cause of AIDS...25+ years into the pandemic.
In order to prove that an a bacterium, virus, chemical, or other agent is the etiologic (causative) agent of ANY disease ALL of "Koch's Postulates" must be fulfilled in an experimental setting. (overview of Kock's Postulates: http://www.microbiologybytes.com/introduction/b2.html)
Koch's Third Postulate states that the suspect agent must be administered and "cause" the disease, which in the case of HIV/AIDS is an ethically ethically immoral experiment to perform.
Just the observations & opinions of another medical scientist (me)...
Congrats on a GREAT job on this board! I have tuned into it & there are definitely MANY nice nuggets to be culled from the postings here.
Go MODC!!!
Looz
NOPE. Stuckholders get an equal number of TELA shares. TELA, Yucatan & the attorneys get the rest of the bogus shares & go after the ISSUERS & SELLERS of said remaining illegal shares. End of story.
NO-MOASS...at least no mo-BHUB-ass!!! We can't have MOASS all the time, but there will undoubtedly be plenty of times when we will see mo-ASS!!! LOL
I'm REALLY happy that these folks stepped up to the plate in this manner. It will minimize the pain (& potential financial loss) that some might have had to endure for who-knows how long because of this problem.
Everyone should be happy that there are honest, responsible, diligent & decent people like Darrell Peterson, et al. down here on the otc...a rarity I'm sure most will appreciate when all this shakes out & the bitterness & confusion subsides.
Ummmmm...which part of: "Techlabs, Inc. plans to assume the rights and privileges of the shares and intends to pursue all available legal remedies, with The BigHub.com, Inc., against unnamed parties that were in receipt or responsible for the issuance of the unregistered shares attached to BHUB." isn't clear???
No more BHUB, no more MOASS. Period.
TELA & Yucatan "plans to assume all rights and privileges of the shares and pursue all available legal remedies" blah, blah, blah...
The attorneys are gonna make a bundle going after the issuers & distributers of the illegal shares, but so is TELA & it's shareholders because anything recovered that isn't spent on legal & regulatory fees will go to the company's bottom line.
Everyone except the perpetrators (willing or unwilling) of this scam wins in this scenario.
The stuckholders get an equal amout of TELA shares in a 1 for 1 exchange of post-split TELA shares, which will UNDOUBTEDLY be worth CONSIDERABLY more than BHUB's pre-halt peak pps of .007 because TELA only has a float of ~2.8MM shares has already started to be bought by MANY (yours truly included...hehehe!!!) & it will be flipped to smithereens until the date of the forward split is announced...then the fun REALLY begins.
Newbies stuck in BHUB will dump out as soon as they receive their TELA shares, but smart cookies will start gobbling them up & an entirely new round of flipping will begin.
Plus TELA is a hurricane play and a severe hurricane season is forecast for 2007.
'Nuf said I believe to paint a clear picture of what's gonna happen here.
Brilliant Solution to what could have otherwise happened to stuckholders in DTC/SEC hell.
IMO it's NO-MOASS. Those stuck in BHUB after the halt will receive their post-split TELA shares on a 1 for 1 basis & BHUB will simply disappear.
What happens with the remainder of real or UN-registered (fake) BHUB shares is that they will most likely be retired & it will be up to the attorneys, the DTC & the SEC to resolve the issue of the shell hijacking & falsification/distribution of bogus shares with Select American Transfer and/or the perpetrators of this scheme.
Perfect win-win-win scenario...except for no MOASS will occur.
End of Story.
When the swap occurs, instead of having 500,000 shares of BHUB you will have 500,000 shares of TELA at the POST-Forward Split price (whatever that is at the time of the forward split, but most definitely much higher than what TELA shares are currently worth).
The same thing will happen for all others currently stuck in BHUB by the halt. After post-split TELA shares are swapped with BHUB stuck-holders on a 1 for 1 basis, all remaining bogus BHUB shares will be retired & BHUB will cease to exist.
What you do with the 5,000 shares of TELA you currently own is up to you as they are freely trading on the open market.
What a class act Darrell Petersen, et al. are to do this...& what an excellent way to resolve the problem in an all-around win-win-win scenario!!!
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!
Cheers!!!
Looz ;-}
Just a few late-night babbling comments after a tough week...
Regarding LSMJ, BHUB, MGLG, ATLJ & every other stock related or NOT related to Select American Transfer -- although some of a long list of tickers do have many similarities, they are ALL ENTIRELY different beasties.
Engaging one another in pizzzzzzing contests by finding and/or posting similarities and/or differences between ANY of these stocks and claiming bragging rights (or pumping and/or bashing for that matter) is about as productive as banging your head against the wall (unless, of course, your objective is to give yourself a headache!!!).
IMO, the MOST IMPORTANT thing to always keep in mind with all these stinky pinky POS's is that in accumulation plays you should GET TO A POINT TO WHERE YOU ARE RIDING A CORE POSITION OF FREEBIES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!!! (e.g, sell 1/2 of your position at a double; 1/3 at a triple; 1/4 at a four-bagger, etc.).
THEN & ONLY THEN feel free to flip away as much as you like...and perhaps tuck away little bits more here & there to build up your core position if there is a reason in your mind for doing so (e.g., a forward-looking event such as a possible short squeeze, reverse merger, etc.).
Even then, be prepared for a possibly choppy ride...specific scenarios don't necessarily unfold & play themselves out nice and neatly in a matter of a days...it may take longer, so ALWAYS be prepared by making a plan & sticking to it.
That is the best way to ride out roller coaster rides that can ensue in scenarios such as BHUB, LSMJ & ever so many others...all of which at some points can make you feel like you are going to puke your guts out!!! That's what I did with BHUB and hence was able to sleep well at night & make very nice bank in the process (even though I made a frenzied & hasty exit with ALL of my BHUB freebies & buys on the last dips prior to the "THE NOTICE" and the ensuing frenzy).
Once you've removed the most of the emotion & tension by riding freebies, you'll be able to SLEEP & TRADE better knowing that contrary to what some may tout the sky IS NOT about to fall!!! ...& also that should something unexpected occur (e.g. a HALT like in the BHUB scenario) you WILL NOT LOSE your entire investment & make nice bank in the process!!!
Another issue I want to address is buying...& even more importantly selling. Some folks just don't ever seem to get it right. ALWAYS try to sell at the ASK. If you absolutely can't do that, then at least try to sell in between the bid & ask.
No offense intended, but bidwhacking is just plain ole-fashioned stoooopid & serves no purpose other than to hurt the price action, with few possible exceptions (e.g. when a hurried exit is necessary as in Wednesday's BHUB sell-off-athon after the "DTC's Global Lockdown" was announced & the situation unfolded0.
One last point, it's unfortunate that the overall sentiment today across the otc was at best lackluster most likely because of the BHUB halt, so always try to remember that tomorrow is another day (go ahead...call me Scarlett...I can take it...LOL!!!) ...TO MAKE PROFIT!!!
GLTYA & Cheers!!!
from a very tired, snoozy & boozy loozy LOL!!!
I wholeheartedly agree with everything that you state, although I would have phrased it differently, but then again I was not involved in all the chatter here regarding gap filling theories, similarities/differences with the unfolding BHUB scenario, suspensions/halts, etc.
LSMJ has some similarities to BHUB but is an ENTIRELY different beastie.
IMO, the MOST IMPORTANT thing to always keep in mind will all these stinky pinkys is to GET TO A POINT TO WHERE YOU ARE RIDING FREEBIES & HOLDING A CORE POSITION!!! (e.g, sell 1/2 of your position at a double; 1/3 at a triple; 1/4 at a four-bagger, etc.).
THEN & ONLY THEN feel free to flip away as much as you like...and perhaps tuck away little bits more here & there for an eventual (& hopeful) MEGA short squeeze.
Even then, be prepared for a pretty choppy ride...this isn't gonna unfold & play itself out nice and neatly in a matter of a days...it will take longer, so just be prepared by making a plan & sticking to it.
That is the best way to ride out the roller coaster ride that inevitably ensues in scenarios such as this one, BHUB & ever so many others...all of which at some point in time will make you feel like you are going to puke your guts out!!!
Once you've removed the most of the emotion by riding freebies, you'll be able to SLEEP & TRADE better by knowing that the sky IS NOT about to collapse without warning!!! ...& also that should something unexpected occur you WILL NOT lose your entire investment & make nice bank in the process!!!
One last point, aside from getting the gap closed NOW rather than later, the overall sentiment across the otc was lackluster today because of the BHUB halt, so also remember that tomorrow is another day to make profit!!!
GLTYA!!!
looz
Re: Cleaning up the entire BHUB mess, Darrell Peterson has carried out everything he has said he would do to date in an expeditious, carefully orchestrated, legal & proper manner to the benefit of all parties involved (perpetrators excluded), including the traders/investors...witness the latter of which is his willingness to be interviewed on Trader's Nation, which IMO will be preceded by another PR outlining some more bits & pieces of "the plan."
Restrictions, suspensions, halts or whatever else that resulted and/or may still happen as a result from the initial "DTC Global Lockdown" notice originally issued by Penson in Canada (which IMO was a carefully worded, calculated pre-PR "alert" from Penson meant to instill fear, doubt & panic) notwithstanding, you can bet your bottom dollar that Darrell, being a smart businessman, will seize this golden opportunity of all the attention that has been drawn to this shell to make it an extremely attractive reverse merger candidate (he's mentioned the 15c211 in TWO PRs).
The primary task at hand of course is to resolve the 1.5+ Billion short position issue, which MUST occur first before any reverse merger.
Perhaps I'm a bit naive, but given that Darrell evidently wants to move quickly on resolving all of the issues at hand, wouldn't the fastest way of triggering a cert recall, forcing a short covering, & cleaning up this entire mess overall, be to announce the IMMINENT issuance of a miniscule dividend to all of the REAL outstanding shares???
IMO this would send naked shorty scrambling to hurriedly get all of those 1.5+ Billion skeletons out of those crammed closets.
Thoughts and comments regarding any of the above are appreciated. TIA.
Oops!!! Midnight on the West coast...bedtime for bonzo here!!!
Like everyone else interested in this unfolding scenario, I'm anxiously looking forward to hearing what Darrell has to say tomorrow both via Press Release and in his live interview on Trader's Nation.
GLTA!!!
Bob aka "looz" -- (I "outed" my real name chatting with Simon on subpennyradio this evening...LOL!!! I called in to clarify what started the sell-off because he wasn't aware of the .pdf file from the DTC and was yapping about how ugly BHUB got in the morning and was going down the tubes, etc., so I felt compelled to get his attention!!!)
Clarity, re: cleaning up this entire mess, Darrell Peterson has carried out everything he has said he would do to date in an expeditious, carefully orchestrated, legal & proper manner to the benefit of all parties involved (perpetrators excluded), including the traders/investors...witness the latter of which is his willingness to be interviewed on Trader's Nation, which IMO will be preceded by another PR outlining some more bits & pieces of "the plan."
Restrictions, suspensions, halts or whatever else that resulted and/or may still happen as a result from the initial "DTC Global Lockdown" notice originally issued by Penson in Canada (which IMO was a carefully worded, calculated pre-PR "alert"from Penson meant to instill fear, doubt & panic) notwithstanding, you can bet your bottom dollar that Darrell, being a smart businessman, will seize this golden opportunity of all the attention that has been drawn to this shell to make it an extremely attractive reverse merger candidate (he's mentioned the 15c211 in TWO PRs).
The primary task at hand of course is to resolve the 1.5+ Billion short position issue, which of course MUST occur first before any reverse merger.
Perhaps I'm a bit naive, but given that Darrell evidently wants to move quickly on resolving all of the issues at hand, wouldn't the fastest way of triggering a cert recall, forcing a short covering, & cleaning up this entire mess overall, be to announce the IMMINENT issuance of a miniscule dividend to all of the REAL outstanding shares???
IMO this would send naked shorty scrambling to hurriedly get all of those 1.5+ Billion skeletons out of those crammed closets.
Thoughts and comments regarding any of the above are appreciated. TIA.
Oops!!! Midnight on the West coast...bedtime for bonzo here!!!
Like everyone else here, I'm anxiously looking forward to hearing what Darrell has to say tomorrow both via Press Release and in his live interview on Trader's Nation.
Sincere thanks & KUDOS to the moderators & contributors of DD and constructive commentary on this board.
GLTA!!!
Bob aka "looz" -- (I "outed" my real name chatting with Simon on subpennyradio this evening...LOL!!! I called in to clarify what started the sell-off because he wasn't aware of the .pdf file from the DTC and was yapping about how ugly BHUB got in the morning and was gonna go down the tubes, etc., so I felt a need to get his attention!!!)
IMO we are approaching MEGA-MOASS status with BHUB.
The more attention this shell gets the more lucrative it will be for a company to reverse merger into, which is in the best interest of all parties involved with the exception of the scammers.
Thank for the clean up job fringe. It's sincerely appreciated as is the great job the moderators are doing...also KUDOS to those who have contributed to the collective knowledge through their DD re: BHUB.
Filtering out the nonsense noise & sticking to the topic sure makes it easier on the eyes & now more than ever it's important to stay on topic.
Pizzzzzzzzzing contests have their own place as do pumping and/or bashing & this board isn't it!!!
Good job and great fun today ALL & GLTY tomorrow and beyond.
Cheers!!!
Loozy
I've been checking that link on a fairly regular basis (perhaps obsessively - LOL). I noticed that change this morning & posted it in Bill Panetta's trading chat room.
I think it's part of the work in which BHUB & Mr. Peterson et. al are currently engaged.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised cyberhandrobotics didn't change the investor information from "negotiations are still in progress...blah blah blah" (paraphrasing here) to this sooner than this morning.
It's good to know someone there is on the ball...or perhaps under the gun!!! LOL
GLTA!!!
Loozy
Link to Market Maker IDs:
http://www.alphatrade.com/techSupport/marketMakers.html?page=a
Indeed jts130...I've reviewed my saved files & bullpicks indeed has been trying to tell people to be careful, but today was a turning point, imo, because Darrell told bull that they were "trying to avoid a halt" which is really in BHUB's best interest if they are or have been planning to pursue other merger options at some point. Bull's a conservative guy & he will only play when he feels there is some sort of confirmation. Bull's been focused on trading other stocks...he's a decent person on the lookout to make sure no newbs become stucksters.
I flipped this sucker three times & I'm still holding 20M freebies @ .00025 avg & will add once a break out of this flipping trend & MM games is confirmed to help the MOMO push this sucker higher.
IMO, the BEST way to play this one is to be certain you've locked in profit & then have freebies to trade and/or ride "to da moon" LOL!!!
jts130, you were also there in Panetta's chat room today & you can confirm what I posted as today's transcript re: conversation between bullpicks & Darrell about "trying to avoid a halt"
Clarity, we're all in a state of fuzzy-headedness at this point, but I concur with you that the NSS/dilution began in June 2006.
I don't have the links to IHUB posts on BHUB back then, but as I've posted on this board before, if you follow the thread on HSM starting June 5, 2006 (http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310) it is clear that shorting was happening back then...albeit on lower volume than this time around.
My head is spinning too & I'm feeling "loozier"...gonna have to spin out soon!!! LOL
At times like these it's important to remember that too much DD can ruin a good trade!
GLTA!!!
Loozy
Darrell NEVER said that "a halt was coming" to the guy in Panetta's chat room...I was there & save the chat rich text files daily & here is the transcript.
Here is what was posted as the conversation between Darrell & bullpicks was happening:
Darrell's comments as relayed to the room while on phone with "bullpicks" in Panetta's chat room. (I KNOW bullpicks & he is CREDIBLE):
"He is trying to gather all the info as quickly as possible"
"they are trying to see if there's a short but no sign of that...yet"
"HALT is what they're trying to avoid so they are trying to get this info ASAP"
Cat_Ottawa & Looznbux ask bullpicks to ask Darrell "What is OS?"
Darrell's response:
"he does not know yet...it's kind of a flux period with the stock...once everything is pulled together we will know"
Cheers!!! & GLTA!!!
Loozy
This confirms what I posted as part of my post #13427 on this board http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=18389547 :
Post #117 by "nevin123"is interesting...confirms O/S of 21.7M:
(http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310&page=12)
Bighub.com Inc(OTC/Other:BHUB)
Industry: Computer-Internet 0.0004 +0.0001 +33.3%
as of 06/05/2006 03:59 PM
Open High Low Prev Close 52 week High-Low
0.0005 0.0015 0.0003 0.0003 0.01 - 0.0001
Volume 90 Day Avg. Volume Shares Outstanding Market Cap P/E EPS
68,842.3 thou 3,590.8 thou 21.7 mil 8.7 thou -2.3 -0.53
Dividend Divd. Yield Beta Ex. Divd. Divd. Pay Split Date
- -% -8.04 - - 8/10/1998
Graphs News Ratings Fundamentals Filings Add To Portfolio
Description
develops and operates the meta-search engine known as the Internet Sleuth on the Internet.
Fundamentals
Fundamentals
Rating vs.
BHUB Industry S&P500 Ind S&P
Price/Earnings -2.3 60.1 17.3
+ +
Price/Book Value -- 10.9 4.0
Dividend Yield% -- 0.0 2.2
5yr EPS Growth Rate(%) -- 0.0 16.7
Growth Consistency -- 1.5 27.5
Return on Equity(%) -- 17.8 22.5
Price Volatility 33.4 6.3 1.5
- -
Financial Highlights
Latest Fiscal Year (n/a) Latest Dividend Data
Sales - Dividend (a.r.) -/share
Book Value Per Shr - Dividend Yield -
Debt/Equity - Dividend Payout -
Profit Margin - Ex-Dividend Date -
Earnings - Dividend Pay Date -
Latest Data General Stats
EPS Latest 12mos -$0.53/shr Price/Sales -
Market Cap $8674.40 Exchange OTC/Other
Shares 21.69 million Beta 1 Year -8.04
Preferred Shares 6.00 million % Held By Institutions -
Split Date 8/10/1998
Debt -
Quarterly History
GLTA!!!
Loozy
If you're so negative about this why bother watching this particluar POS when there's so many others out there? For that matter, if you believe it's going to .0001 will you be a buyer there? LMAO
Made good bank on BHUB over 3 weeks ago...riding freebies now...no sweat here!
Throughout 2005 & 2006, in various publications and at different times, Cyberhand Technologies International started to issue PRs that it was spinning off different components of the company (e.g., Cyberhand Robotics division was supposed to be the ergonomic mice & game controllers:
http://www.empirerelations.com/press/pub/it/news_00028230.shtml
The PKTO (www.pocketopcorp.com) was spun off via RM of USAC into PKTO. That was the folding keyboards, etc.:
http://www.sys-con.com/read/286991.htm
There is supposedly some sort of aerospace products/services that Cyberhand Tecnologies International was purported to spin off into another distinct entity, also possibly via RM:
http://rfdesign.com/mag/radio_cyberhand_technologies_partners/index.html
you gotta scratch your head when you read about some little POS pinky doing a deal with Lockheed-Martin...hmmmmmmmm
But then again, we're dealing with PinkyLand at it's worst so who really knows for sure...especially with this BHUB fiasco.
GLTA
You can add to this list post #499 on this page: http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310&page=50 to your menagerie of BHUB postings on March 8, 2006.
If someone hasn't checked it out already, look back in that thread to the way BHUB was trading on June 5, 2006: (http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310&page=2) {note: the charts auto-update & don't reflect the activity back then).
BHUB was trading like the low floater that it is but it looks like there was some dilution or shorting going on back then also.
On June 6th, volume was >50M...which seemed REALLY HUGE for that date and on June 7th, one of the postings there said something to the effect of "WOW...we're gonna trade almost 100M today!" ...Sounds vaguely reminiscent of how BHUB's been trading in March 2007, except NOW with CONSIDERABLY higher volume.
Go to posting #44 on that last HSM link & you can see where "stockgangsta" started pumping BHUB ("Yeah MWM im in this one with you Going to accumulate 5k at .0015 and below beacuse this thing can pop to the pennys IMO") & then a bunch of others jumped on board with the pumping.
Keep following the thread if you're so inclined...
Post #117 by "nevin123"is interesting...confirms O/S of 21.7M:
(http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310&page=12)
Bighub.com Inc(OTC/Other:BHUB)
Industry: Computer-Internet 0.0004 +0.0001 +33.3%
as of 06/05/2006 03:59 PM
Open High Low Prev Close 52 week High-Low
0.0005 0.0015 0.0003 0.0003 0.01 - 0.0001
Volume 90 Day Avg. Volume Shares Outstanding Market Cap P/E EPS
68,842.3 thou 3,590.8 thou 21.7 mil 8.7 thou -2.3 -0.53
Dividend Divd. Yield Beta Ex. Divd. Divd. Pay Split Date
- -% -8.04 - - 8/10/1998
Graphs News Ratings Fundamentals Filings Add To Portfolio
Description
develops and operates the meta-search engine known as the Internet Sleuth on the Internet.
Fundamentals
Fundamentals
Rating vs.
BHUB Industry S&P500 Ind S&P
Price/Earnings -2.3 60.1 17.3
+ +
Price/Book Value -- 10.9 4.0
Dividend Yield% -- 0.0 2.2
5yr EPS Growth Rate(%) -- 0.0 16.7
Growth Consistency -- 1.5 27.5
Return on Equity(%) -- 17.8 22.5
Price Volatility 33.4 6.3 1.5
- -
Financial Highlights
Latest Fiscal Year (n/a) Latest Dividend Data
Sales - Dividend (a.r.) -/share
Book Value Per Shr - Dividend Yield -
Debt/Equity - Dividend Payout -
Profit Margin - Ex-Dividend Date -
Earnings - Dividend Pay Date -
Latest Data General Stats
EPS Latest 12mos -$0.53/shr Price/Sales -
Market Cap $8674.40 Exchange OTC/Other
Shares 21.69 million Beta 1 Year -8.04
Preferred Shares 6.00 million % Held By Institutions -
Split Date 8/10/1998
Debt -
Quarterly History
Finally, when the dump was on & it was apparent that BHUB was going back to .0001, on June 7th "Hobbes80" wrote in post #284: "we should build our positions a little more then go over to ********* tomorrow and have them pump it j/k... but would be funny"
{Note: I have no idea who "Hobbes80" is referring to when he/she wrote "***********" is in this posting, but I assume it is some other board, perhaps IHub or one of the other otcbb boards} (http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38310&page=29)
Over the course of the next week, traders were flipping (or TRYING TO FLIP) between the .0001s & .0004s before the POS went down in flames (PRESUMABLY WITH A BUNCH OF STUCKHOLDERS) when the volume dried up.
I certainly hope we don't see a repeat of that kind of activity this time around. Hopefully Darrell Peterson of BHUB will put out a timely PR or PREFERABLY Pinksheets.com updates the share structure PRONTO before we lose the MOMO.
I'm a newbie (only about 1 year playing the otcbb; I play mostly low float Nazcrackers) and I have no idea who belongs to what alias of any of what I posted any of what I've quoted & linked above, but I find all the DD everyone has done on this very intriguing and hope information can help the moderators of this board put some more pieces of the puzzle together. I apologize in advance if any of this is redundant information.
As I've posted before, I've already banked on a few flips early on in this run on March 9th, 12th & 13th and am riding 20M freebies @ .00025 avg and am gonna hang on to them to see what unfolds...hopefully a really nice MOASS!!!
Happy BHUBzilla w/e Bud!!!
Dunno about the adding more regardless of liquidity...the drama is getting kinda tired...bring on the next POS!!! Ya know there's always more right around the corner...
Cheers!!!
Looz
Oh yeah...I agree whole-heartedly. The whodunits will shake out over time...& the moderators of this board (at least over the past week or so) have done an excellent job of bringing a lot of pieces together.
Prior to then, particularly starting Sunday, March 11, 2007, what was occuring in BHUB & on this board (& other boards besides Ihub boards) was a serious amount of front-loading & pumping while a major dump-a-thon was in progress by who-knows-who?
I'm not an Ihub "regular" as you can see from the number of my postings. I've been hanging out on and off in Bill Panetta's Breakouttradning.net room for almost a year and play mostly NASDAQ stocks as anyone who knows my alias from there can attest.
My attention was drawn to SSP & Jim Bishop by one of the other Breakouttrading.net members (njnorms) & I've been following "The Golden List" board here as I find some of the possible "trick" plays there intriguing.
I made some nice coin on BHUB in the first couple of days of the run & am holding freebies (20M @ avg .00025) for a possible MOASS...no more flipping or accumulation for me...just wait & see & sell into any possible run.
With that said, thanks again for all the "detective work" done by the current moderators & contributors to this board. It'll be interesting to see how the story continues to unfold.
GLTA
Posting by "tazzo" beat SSP's by ~4 minutes!!!http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17702289
The serious pumping followed by the dumpathon didn't come along until later.
The Canadian connection ("tazzo") is interesting however...hmmmm
P.S. "Pinkshell"'s FIRST post was AFTER the SSP/Jim Bishop posts on the BHUB/CyberhandRobotics possible RM...almost 1-1/2 hours AFTER http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17702289
(BHUB .0001 going on this http://www.cyberhandrobotics.com/ http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BHUB.PK)
Posted by: pinkshell
In reply to: None
Date:3/8/2007 12:36:22 PM
Post #of 13165
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17708208
"BHUB doing the same thing as PKTO did 3 days ago. Same company, same merger plan!"
eom
Since old postings by "pinkshell" were deleted, I'm uncertain as to who was first to make the BHUB/cyberhandrobotics RM.
The first place my attention was drawn to BHUB as possibly being in a similar type of situation as the USAC/PKTO RM was early on March 8th (the 1.3+B volume day) by following the postings & links by SSP & Jim Bishop on "The Golden List" Board:
Start here on this post by SSP:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17702289 (March 8, 2007 10:59:45AM BHUB .0001 going on this http://www.cyberhandrobotics.com/ http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BHUB.PK)
Follow the relevant BHUB (and USAC/PKTO) threads over there if you're so inclined and draw your own conclusions as to who may have been dumping as they were pumping.
Char,
The news is indeed old & irrelevant in this situation but it's interesting that just a couple of weeks ago Fed. Chairman Bernanke was yapping about how the OTC presents a tremendous opportunity for all kinds of fraudulent activities that debunk investors and/or brokers.
Witness the halt of the 35 OTC securities on March 8, 2007. As I'm sure you're aware, the following was posted under the "Pink Sheets News Service" section of each of the halted securities:
"The Commission ordered this trading suspension because of questions that have arisen regarding the adequacy and accuracy of publicly disseminated information concerning among other things: (1) the company's assets, (2) the company's business operations, (3) the company's current financial condition, and/or (4) financing arrangements involving the issuance of the company's shares.
The Commission cautions broker-dealers, shareholders, and prospective purchasers that they should carefully consider the foregoing information along with all other currently available information and any information subsequently issued by the company.
Further, brokers-dealers should be alert to the fact that, pursuant to Rule 15c2-11 under the Exchange Act, at the termination of the trading suspension, no quotation may be entered unless and until they have strictly complied with all of the provisions of the rule. If any broker-dealer has any questions as to whether or not it has complied with the rule, it should not enter any quotation but immediately contact the staff in the Division of Market Regulation, Office of Interpretation and Guidance, at (202) 551-5760. If any broker-dealer is uncertain as to what is required by Rule 15c2-11, it should refrain from entering quotations relating to the security of the company listed above until such time as it has familiarized itself with the rule and is certain that all of its provisions have been met. If any broker-dealer enters any quotation that is in violation of the rule, the Commission will consider the need for prompt enforcement action.
The SEC's Office of Investor Education and Assistance has information for investors and members of the general public on topics directly related to this action by the SEC. See http://www.sec.gov/investor/35tradingsuspensions.htm.
Any broker-dealer or other person with information relating to this matter is invited to e-mail the Securities and Exchange Commission at 35suspensions@sec.gov."
Char, since you are in contact with some of the involved parties, and NOBODY wants the SEC poking their noses into the unfolding situation with BHUB, you may want to consider sharing this information with the involved principals.
...just a suggestion...use your own judgment.
Thanks for all the hard work you & others have done on this board.
Looz
All those phoney baloney 123, 911, 411, 666, 657, 5309, etc. buys were just a bored trader[s] (I know at least one of them) having "fun" and served no purpose other than to cause confusion. There is no mystery surrounding those numbers and contrary to what some believe they are NOT MM signals, etc.
Very simple: the open & close prices were the same (.0006), hence no body to today's candle, the top tail (.0011) was the high & the bottom tail (.0004) was the low.
Today's trading action reflected a lot of flipping from new buyers around today's lows & selling of people in from lower (or even higher) who are weary of all the shenanigans surrounding the unfolding scenario with this shell.
Flipping is a good thing for both the traders & the stock but at this point or pretty soon the flipping will no longer help the price action climb as much. I noticed that MMs were sucking up a lot of shares at the bid while people waited a long time for fills at the same bid price, supported the existance of a huge short position on this low o/s stock. We'll have to get to higher levels for the real squeeze to begin. Until the pps gets higher & the flippers get out, flipping will only help the MMs cover their shorted shares at a lower price and the squeeze & "real" MOASS run will not be as great.
All those phoney baloney 123, 911, 411, 666, 657, 5309, etc. buys (which were just a bored trader[s] having "fun") served no purpose other than to cause confusion. There is no mystery surrounding those numbers and contrary to what some believe they are NOT MM signals, etc.
All of the above is, of course, my opinion only.
Nope, wasn't around for BCIT, but was for AWYB which I played & made bank on, but glad I got out in time & didn't become a stuckholder.
Made nice bank on BHUB & plan to sell again for another triple, but then no touchy touchy for me anymore. I still smell a rat.
I'm going back to the big boards...went against my grain to touch a stinky pinky again to begin with.
GLTA. I sincerely hope you folks play it correctly & make lotsa $$$ on this one.
"Accumulation"??? The only ones accumulating are the MMs cuz many I know are getting VERY hard fills on the bid.
How pathetic that 660M shares traded & we're flat.
BHUB is the lady that doth protest too much (referring to all the noise on this particluar POS stock).
With the number of postings & reads about her BHUB will not be easily forgotten & the yakking on her will continue for quite some time.
Trigger News provides real-time feeds from all the major content providers: http://www.triggernews.com/partners but the footer with the erroneous year could have been the result of who-knows-what.
What intrigues me more however is the way Yucatan Holdings didn't just include the share structure in the PR instead of this vague "the activity seems to be excessive considering the current share structure" nonsense.
I've made very nice bank on this POS already & will do so again tomorrow when the price action once again begins to tell a story. Then I'll be finished with BHUB for good.
Methinks this BHUB lady "doth protest too much."
End of Message, End of Story for me.
Here's the TriggerNews version with the © 1996-2005 at the bottom:
03/28/2007 13:44 EST
Yucatan Holding Company to Clarify position on The Big Hub.com, Inc.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn., March 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Yucatan Holding Company, as holder of the majority of shares to be received pursuant to a certain Voting Agreement and Irrevocable Trust dated April 1999, wishes to clarify its position with regards to mergers and or acquisitions that have been in discussion.
The Company has not been in contact with a representative of Cyberhand Technologies International, Inc. with regards to their interest. At this time no action is contemplated as the Company does not know nor has it had any discussions with regards to Cyberhand's interest. The Big Hub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) is currently reviewing potential business ventures unrelated to current rumors that have surfaced and come to the attention of the Company.
The Company further states that it is concerned as to the recent activity in the shares of The Big Hub.com, Inc. as the activity seems to be excessive considering the current share structure. The Company intends to investigate this matter vigorously.
SOURCE Yucatan Holding Company
CONTACT: Darrell Peterson of Yucatan Holding Company, +1-561-801-3710
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It says 2005 in the TriggerNews.com version of the PR:
http://www.triggernews.com/prnewswire/20070328/CLW200.html
I'm not quite sure what to make of the discrepancies, but it certainly adds to the "fishiness" of this unfolding saga.
To whomever suggested I "talk to Darrell Petersen & he'll tell me himself": I and several others have dialed the number over & over again & keep getting the same message: "a voicemail box hasn't been set up yet for this number...goodbye"...CLICK.
Furthermore, why hasn't Cyberhand Robotics terminated or corrected the link to the "negotiations" with BHUB.PK??? Maybe Mr. Burke is an idiot also.
I must admit, I do love a good mystery & LMAOOOOOOOO!!!
BOGUS BHUB PR, imho, of course!!!
Anyone notice the "Copyright © 1996-2005 PR Newswire" at the bottom of the "Press Release" from Yucatan with particular emphasis on the 2005. Go to ANY PR Newswire page & have a gander at the copyright years.
Ummmmm....the last time I checked this is 2007 isn't it??? Or have I accidentally slipped into a wormhole and gotten zapped back to 2005??? DUH...
I also find it interesting that the "Darrell Peterson" phone number (1-561-801-3710) rolls right into a greeting stating that "a voicemail box for this number has not been set up yet...goodbye".
Conclusion: Anyone can fake a PR and/or pump & dump in any of MANY ways.
BOGUS PR, imho, of course!!!
Anyone notice the "Copyright © 1996-2005 PR Newswire" at the bottom of the "Press Release" from Yucatan with particular emphasis on the 2005. Go to ANY PR Newswire page & have a gander at the copyright years. Ummmmm....the last time I checked this is 2007 isn't it??? Or have I accidentally slipped into a wormhole and gotten zapped back to 2005??? DUH...
I also find it interesting that the "Darrell Peterson" phone number (1-561-801-3710) rolls right into a greeting stating that "a voicemail box for this number has not been set up yet...goodbye".
Conclusion: Anyone can fake a PR and/or pump & dump in any of MANY ways.
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