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That's right, but don't think they care about!
...should be read carefully! Especially by those who are busy with it!
"She needs to do her job correctly and justly. It is the only way she can walk away from this with her head held high. Let the games begin."
Catz!
thank you very much!
Have a great day.
Claus
Thanks cats for your reply!
You mentioned "...the FDIC filed claims against the estate."
...and my question: "by which reason FDIC has rights to file claims against the estate?"
IMO they are not entitled to do so. Their rights (to do so) belong to WMB only!
May be I'm wrong?
I wonder now for 1 1/2 years why FDIC is a party with the GSA?
OTS seized WMB (together with WMI, unjustified) and gave it to FDIC. JPM bought in "Good Faith" what was offered by FDIC and they are (might be) off the hook.
...but FDIC had never the rights to sell assets of WMI.
Now, even when the author of the GSA is WMI (by BR), then why is FDIC entitled to be an active party at this elegal deal ?
Comments recomended by an humble European!
I agree 100% with your posting.
JP worked very hard to create this commitee since Feb 2009. If she wouldn't have fought for EC as she did, then the whole case would have ended in May 2010 leaving equity with empty hands.
JP organized the "Registration Sheets" she needed to get in contact with UST to demand the establishment of the EC.
She collected money to hire a lawyer who would represent us at court.
She was dastardly betrayed by the own people in her suroundings who tried to take donates in their own pocket.
Here are some excerpts from her emails she sent to me:
In one of her emails she offered all her frustration:
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Betreff: Re: AW: Hello CD a response to your post on the board
RE the worst is, we see all the fraud, lies and trickery in front of us and can do nothing!
That is the most discouraging part.
I hope you can watch this link
www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10092009/watch.html
We need to support people like this, who are calling out with the truth
Joyce
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In an other email she wrote:
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We have an atty conference on Monday, to talk about moving forward with the Equity Committee...it appears we may not have heard back from the trustee...I'll know more Monday, but I will still not be doing public announcements about this, so please keep it to yourself for now...we don't ant to give anyone involved any advanced warning...and we don't want it on the boards...only a few people know this and you are one, since after all this time I know I can trust you to be quiet a little longer...
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...and finally somedays I received the following message:
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...I have been very busy with packing to go south for the winter and also my husband has had a bad back injury...so I am not around much these days...
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IMO its very nauseating to circulate statements, due to a fact, that JP denied to speak with someone who didn't have her absolute confidence.
CD
I followed most of your postings related to JP. The last one shows that you never had contact to her. Bevore she retired, JP served at the US-Army in Frankfurt/Germany.
I have been in connection with her since December 2008 , but I've never read anything more stupid about her, than your bad shots are.
The only reason she withdraw from EC because of her ill husband.
I think its better to keep silence instead of disseminate lies on someone's reputation.
BUY, BUY, BUY
...the next days only (before it's too late)!
....I thought I might try reverse psychology!
(.....because I'm not paid by JPM)
Dear Michael!
Here is the answer!
Invitation's Summary of:
International Womens Insolvency & Restructuring Confederation
Thursday, March 31, 2011
Washington, DC
Our Spring program will feature a very special presentation, "A Conversation with Trailblazing Women in the Insolvency Field."
We are pleased to announce that the Hon. Marjorie Rendell, Third Circuit Court of Appeals, will be the moderator for this historic program. The interviewees include:
Norma Corio, JPMorgan Chase & Co., New York
Marcia Goldstein, Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
Hon. Barbara Houser, Chief U.S. Bankruptcy Judge, Northern District of Texas
Hon. Mary Walrath, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge, Delaware
Bettina Whyte, Alvarez and Marsal, New York
The program is being taped and will be included in the permanent, digital collection of the National Bankruptcy Archives housed at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. IWIRC appreciates the cooperation and support of the American College of Bankruptcy’s Archives Committee and its Chair, the Hon. Diane Sigmund.
BUT NEVER MIND!
When THEY met along the way, their maine sensitive issue was exchange of cake recipes only!
...how do you feel now?
Hi folks overseas!
Due to a holiday (Pentecost Monday), the Stock-Exchange in Germany is closed today!
Don't know from where they make an actual PPS public (???)
Nice greetings from Austria
Claus
don't know why you take pps from stuttgart? They are specialized on Derivatives and Certificates
Frankfurt Stock Exchange:
Volume 504,600 PPS 0.117 EURO > 0.17 US$ Time 09:19 GMT
(19 Minutes after opening)
US$ Exchangerate = 1.4652
Nice greetings from overseas (Austria)
Claus
MMs are working hard to save their (OUR!) money!
....but listen guys: FUN IS OVER !!!
Sorry it was Dec10!!!
BINGO - Look at BR's Nov10 billing !
VENDOR: ROSEN, BRIAN
OTHER FOOD/BEVERAGE DEC 03, 2010 -
BEVERAGES FOR ASSOCIATES AND CLIENTS ABOARD AMTRAK
ON RETURN FROM WASHINGTON MUTUAL HEARINGS. -
He invited 16 persons and payed (milked WMI) => US$ 261
U'r right!
http://www.my.calendars.net/wmi/
Claus
Please do not forget: Susman itself is the weapon.
If he is present at the court, alltogether they are awestruck. If he appears, everyone knows that there is nothing to laugh anymore ....even not for BR.
Why should he do it into routine and thus gamble his personal trump?
Hi Michelle,
I have to appologize; it was a real misunderstanding by myself!
IMO the interpretation was: "NO WIND, NO WAVES, KEEP QUIET"
...and I mentioned: "...I can't agree with that"
...but anyway, my posting has been deleted in iHub!
...so I issued it in Y and Catz answered!
Have a nice weekend!!!
Claus
POR6, Filed 11/28/2010
Section 1.6:
quote: "...any property or assets remain in the Liquidating Trust .... be contributed to a charitable organization ....."
IMO Rosen thinks of this one:
Jewish Board of Family and Children’s Services
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/299845
(second paragraph)
Harvey Lichtenstein is listed as MAWU's BOD
Michael A. Epstein, Senior Partner at Weil, Gotshal & Manges and JBFCS Trustee serves as Secretary of the Board and Chair.
THEY NEED A LOT OF MONEY!!
Hi Beth!
The Pavlovian Dog was the basis of his theories only. Iwan Petrowitsch Pavlov (1849–1936) was a psychoanalyst and physician. ... and his theories about human language "The Second Signal System", clearly show how it is possible to manipulate someone by language.
I tried to express the following:
(quote from wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind
...a double bind generally includes different levels of abstraction in orders of messages, and these messages can be stated or implicit within the context of the situation, or conveyed by tone of voice or body language.
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It's not hypnosis! ... But a kind to force his will on every man!
My native language is not English and for me it's very difficult to explain that!
... but to say it briefly: Rosen is able to sell an Eskimo a refrigerator on the Arctic Circle!
Everyone, who has to do with Rosen, should be informed about that exactly, otherwise he is lost!
Ask a psychoanalyst about that!!!
Greetings Claus
Hi folks,
have you ever heard from "Pawlow's Paradoxon"?
No? How should you! Pawlow was a russian psychoanalyser, who earned the Nobel Price in 1905!
His theory is called the "second signal system"
The language is used by man as the second signal system.
If someone expects visitors and the doorbell rang, he goes and opens the door.
When the same don't hear the doorbell but someone says "The doorbell rang at this moment!" he behave the same!
Really?
No! The ringing clock you perceive with the cerebellum. But spoken language with the big brain!
But there exists a technique of rhetoric in the use of language which may be recorded with the cerebellum or the big brain.
And Rosen is a master of this technique!
All that you can hear via the cerebellum, you forget right away.
Everything received by cerebral belongs to reserves and also is manipulated by hypnotic!
Thats why THJMW is so confused!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind
A double bind generally includes different levels of abstraction in orders of messages, and these messages can be stated or implicit within the context of the situation, or conveyed by tone of voice or body language.
It's not a question of what those think, whose business fraud, corruption and conspiracy was all the time! They don't care anyway!
The point is that the world learns by what means these crooks work.
The point is that a reputation has to be destroyed. It is high time! Someone has to speak the right words!
The point is that a fresh start is needed!
what's about a little WIKILEAK action; for all the crooks and in spezial for this case. Would be of interrest how much reputation is left in the rest of the world afterwards? Some Switz Banks withdraw there money already ....No wonder, under these fraudly conditions shown open without any fear!
and in addition...
I post it again - MODIFIED (first time it has been deleted by MOD!)
Hey Joe
There ist no need to call a moderator ....
All, you should do: look around!
Your nation is fighting all over the world
... to introduce democracy
... against corruption
... for human rights
... for justice and freedom
and wherever you try to liberate the world from misery, your soldiers are seen as enemies!
It's ought to be of interest! You need not leave your country actually!
... the biggest enemies are acting in your own ranks!
Those who pray the money and take care of nothing else! They are greedy, corrupt, backstabbing and power-hungry!
... and a whole nation, even the whole world suffers!
Please show me the dog that bites the hand that feed it!
From YAHOO-Board just an hour ago!
Hochberg's and Mckenna-Long's Massive Conflict of Interest:
From the official website of McKenna-Long:
http://www.mckennalong.com/industries-33.html
They basically reach out to hedge funds, like Tepper,
and other venture capital who buy distressed firms and
assets like WMI.
How in the world can Hochberg claim to be unbiased when
his firm specializes in representing the hedge funds who currently constitute WaMu's debtors-in-pissesion?
What a filthy, filthy business the BK scam is in this country???
It is a total joke.
CD
never tried !
Hi folks!
Very strange! This morning (7:00 GMT (Europe)) I started to read the DS and copied some parts of it.
After I opened it again in the evening, the content is of another!
What's going on there?
Greatings from Europe
CD
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229101019000000000012.pdf
....while Ken cares about his business in the United States, someone in Austria has stolen his patent and sells it very successfully.Mr. Stefan Ponsold claimed the invention by him and meanwhile has been founded a company, the "SunnyBAG GmbH".
I think Ken isn't amused to hear about that.
www.sunnybag.at
Greatings from Europe
Claus
Dietrich Mateschitz, the owner of RED BULL filed 3 times for bankruptcy since 1984.
If he had been helping as many of users are posting here, he would not have become so rich.
He moved his project through, no matter what has been spotted all around.
CD
It’s a great day! It’s time to remember a moment of what we live.
“Dear Mr. President, come take a walk with me......”
“Querido senor Presidente, salga a dar una vuelta conmigo......”
“Cher President, venez faire un tour avec moi......”
“Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident! Gehen wir doch ein Stück spazieren......“
“?????,??????......“
It has been reported that the former president never heard Pink's amazing song! ..... while the whole world knew the truth in this song.
If this is true, he certainly wasn’t the representative of the American dream. But he and his government have left a bad legacy. Thus the song ends: “Dear Mr. President. You’d never take a walk with me! Hmmmm, would you?”
....but then we heard the words: ”YES, WE CAN” ....many hoped to get a President, whom the people can follow. ....many hoped for a lot of changes. ....and last but not least, many were hoping for justice and peace.
My hope is, the new President will read this lines and he listens carefully, when people are confident that they must sing it again:
“Dear Mr. President.
Come take a walk with me. Lets pretend we’re just two people and you’re not better than me.
I’d like to ask you some questions there, if we can speak honestly: What do you feel when you see all the FORECLOSED on the street?
Who do you pray for a night before you go to sleep?
What do you feel when you look in the mirror? Are you proud?........”
....What actually for ?
* Mr. D's selfless act for the benefit of all American?
* Mr. R and his gang who apply the law as they please?
* Mrs. B, who triggered the world financial crisis, even though she knew that this wasn’t her area of competence, for their greedy, corrupt and fraudulent friends to help and then quietly standing on the stage?
Together they represent the problem and together they fight against the law, to hold what they brought in their possession unlawfully!
If this happens in India or elsewhere all US media would have cried that such things happen in third world!
Now what is this? All media silent like def and dumb.
Look at WMI's court case. Since 2 years still no one knows valuation! Something serious is missing in system called 'Honesty'
Till date no petition or case has been filed by affected parties to challenge the unlawful seizure and firesale of WMB. I don't know whether USA has a law under which you can seek remedy for illegal actions of the govt.?
....and we sing together loudly:
“....how can THEY say EVERY ONE is left behind???
We’re not dumb and we’re not blind!!!......”
(We are not just vultures dividing up what is left)
....and the song ends:
“....how do you sleep at night?
How do you walk with your head hold high?
Dear Mr. President !
You’d never take a walk with me! Hmmm, would you?”
I'm not sure, but Presidents need advisers also. One of them has no fear to eat dinner in the White House. Why the President should just go for a walk with me?
It’s very simple. Twenty years ago the Germans were on street and cried: ”WE ARE THE PEOPLE !” and that was enough to clean the system..... if nobody else cares.
CD
Hi oj_n,
....before the seizure of WAMU I shook my head about Somalia’s pirates thefts and wouldn’t realize this ever could happen. These handful pirates showed the whole civilized world their outstretched middle finger.... Previously the USA tried to bring democracy to Somalia, as well as they tried to introduce law and order there.
....and what happened: ....not the Soamlies have learned from the US. It was the USA that had learned how a handful of their own people show the outstretched middlefinger.... and no one essential cares about it.
You need not to fight against theft, corruption and fraud abroad as long as you grant thefts in your own homeland.
Just a thought of a simple European very worried about this, what has happened.
Greetings CD
This is the Law:
In the United States, criminal provisions relating to bankruptcy fraud and other bankruptcy crimes are found in sections 151 through 158 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
Bankruptcy fraud includes filing a bankruptcy petition or any other document in a bankruptcy case for the purpose of attempting to execute or conceal a scheme or artifice to defraud.
Bankruptcy fraud also includes making a false or fraudulent representation, claim or promise in connection with a bankruptcy case, either before or after the commencement of the case, for the purpose of attempting to execute or conceal a scheme or artifice to defraud.
Bankruptcy fraud is punishable by a fine, or by up to five years in prison, or both.
Knowingly and fraudulently concealing property of the estate from a custodian, trustee, marshal, or other court officer is a separate offense, and may also be punishable by a fine, or by up to five years in prison, or both. The same penalty may be imposed for knowingly and fraudulently concealing, destroying, mutilating, falsifying, or making a false entry in any books, documents, records, papers, or other recorded information relating to the property or financial affairs of the debtor after a case has been filed.
Certain offenses regarding fraud in connection with a bankruptcy case may also be classified as "racketeering activity" for purposes of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). Any person who receives income directly or indirectly derived from a "pattern" of such racketeering activity (generally, two or more offensive acts within a ten year period) and who uses or invests any part of that income in the acquisition, establishment, or operation of any enterprise engaged in (or affecting) interstate or foreign commerce may be punished by up to twenty years in prison.
Bankruptcy crimes are prosecuted by the United States Attorney, typically after a reference from the United States Trustee, the case trustee, or a bankruptcy judge.
Bankruptcy fraud can also sometimes lead to criminal prosecution in state courts, under the charge of theft of the goods or services obtained by the debtor for which payment, in whole or in part, was evaded by the fraudulent bankruptcy filing.
Greetings CD
Who knows how many (common) shares were in WMI's hands at time of seizure. I read of about 400 mil. shares.
Where are these approx. 400 mil. commons now?
Are they qualified to vote?
Who will vote (if qualified)?
CD
Many comments deal with the NSS in the Yahoo board at this moment.
I pursue this bankruptcy since Nov 2008.
At the beginning in 2009 I have read someplace that WMI should submitted to TGB about 400m common shares in October 2008 as of a deal. Now, I ask the question after WAMU was taken away from by the FDIC in September 2008: where are these 400m shares now? Are they part of the outstanding shares (1.7b)? Are these entitled to vote? Who votes on it?
Greetings from Austria
CD
They have and I think they will do so!
Is there an alternative to this?
CD
BOD has engaged Weil&Gotshal (+ our lovely Mr. Rosen) after seizure!
Who the hell of the BOD members meets full approval with the attorneys.
Each of the BOD members are known all over town.
Why is there nobody asking them (individually) what's in their mind?
.........AND IF THEY DO NOT AGREE.........
....the next day is Weil&Gotshal's last day as an attorney of WMI !
....or consequently the BOD member won't be reelected!
Isn't that so simple ?
Just my thoughts here in Austria. Far away, but fighting closely!
Nice greetings
CD
....appended was the following:
"Certainly some research needs to be done straight away. How many members are there total? Who are they and what side of the bread do they have buttered? Can we see a voting history or otherwise learn their loyalty?"
....and it has been answered:
".....and my question right away was: 'WHO THE HELL WILL DO THAT ?'
.....singing: '..... sitting on the dock of the bay.... wasting time.....!' is the wrong thing to do.
It's five minutes before midnight. Watch that.
.... because after midnight, the day has past !!!"
You are right!
Easter-Monday is a holiday in whole Europe.
FSE is closed !!!
Nice greetings from Austria
Claus-Dieter
Thwere is a holiday in Germany today! Stock exchange is closed!
Nice greetings from Austria
Claus
Hallo everybody,
to save your 401(k) WMI-commons read this link on topic:
Re: bopfan, please help with this!
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_W/threadview?m=tm&bn=86316&tid=355328&mid=355347&tof=12&rt=1&frt=1&off=1
Save your shares; fight back and TAKE JPM FOR A RIDE !
Greetings from Austria
Claus
Some questions to everyone in this board:
1) How many employees have signed the Declaration of Shares for the EC and sent to Joyce?
2) How many shorts aren't closed yet?
3) What intends JPM to do with these shares ...?
4) Did you already made any thoughts of founding a new fund and transfer the WMI-shares there? (you are allowed by law, to do so!)
5) Is there a greater trickster in liberty at that time?
Reconsider all that and make your decision. It's five to twelve.
Greetings from Austria, Europe
Claus