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To each their own..
You look forward to the RS..I look forward to the new CEO coming on and the transparency of who owns the majority of shares and what retailers will be including etc..
As far as this..
"To even suggest that these shares are going anywhere but into the float via dumping by a PIPE funder is LUDICROUS if not flat out disingenuous"...
The only "LUDICROUS" statement being made is the belief that the majority of the shares are being bought up by average retail investors..
The argument still holds..either the insiders have the majority and are not selling or there are retail investors willing to hold close to 3 billion shares through all this doom and gloom..My bet is that the transparency I speak of will prove that the vast majority of shares are locked up tight and that a few traders are playing with the rest..With all the doom and gloom statements being made and by following the accumulation line and lack of any significant selling volume..my scenario is backed more than any unproven statement about a "PIPE funder" dumping shares to the retail side..
In your scenario..would you care to show us who has bought close to 2 billion shares that itrader has resubmitted to the board many times in posts and why they are not being dumped by the 100's of millions daily by the multitude who believe in your opinion??
If you can provide a link to the PIPE funder you mention that backs up your claim that would be great..Otherwise..check the volume traded daily and the accumulation line for your answer..
As I said..to each their own and this company is not a scam..Happy New Year to all...veno
I disagree..first I believe that the company will provide the shareholders with what we have been waiting for and the transparency will be very positive..Over three million AS now and I will bet that the majority of the shares OS are being held tight for that transparency..It will be great to see what the new CEO has planned for the retail side of etc and for all those that call this company a scam..Fun times are coming...veno
Really??
"Etc not only couldn't ***spin off***, it hasn't sold a single copy."
Copy of what?? etc is a new cabinet product..A single copy?? Guess that could explain your posts..
etc has just begun and yes it has already sold...veno
I don't see that pinks sheets has updated anything..
In fact they still have the OS and AS wrong..The last update on directors was after the last filing with Nevada..
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=yiCRrksM0rZ9tJxgaG23Jw%253d%253d&nt7=0
Happy Holidays to you...veno
First you have no idea what my DCA is..You also don't know how many shares I have bought at many different levels..You have no idea what levels this stock will see in the future..Second no AZ salesman ever said that there was a $6 million dollar order from the company..Your suggestion that I "get over it" relates to what?? I am an investor in this company not a short term trader..I have lost nothing..Your opinion of EXPO being "cooked short and long term" is not by any means the majority opinion..There are close to three billion shares OS..You may want to wait and see who is holding the vast majority of them tight..etc is the real deal and with new mangement coming on..we will see how "cooked" as you say the company is...veno
First..I don't believe
that the SEC cares anything about this company..Second I do believe that both the company and the pps will turn around under new management..The big etc announcement was just the beginning for that product..How traders played it was their own doing and I am sure many lost their shirts..I am still holding because I believe in the company and the products..I have time to wait through all the games being played and while there are those that purposely have driven the pps down by churning their accounts..it will end..In fact as one poster said they have boxed themselves in now..Happy holidays to you and good luck in your investing...veno
This stock is not about short term trading
predictions..
"it will be next to impossible for the .0002 buyers to get out with any profit.."
I would agree that the daytraders that thought this would be a quick turn around are now either "stuck" as you say or have already taken their losses..
I read back on a few post since my leave and one poster hit the nail on the head..A lot of shares were sold recently..but he stated that it means that a lot of shares were also bought..Close to three billion shares are out and there is no way that the vast majority of those shares are in the hands of the traders or the retail buyers looking for quick gains..
I agree with 4kds that the company will show to all that is the case and that will happen when the balance sheet is cleaned up..With the new CEO coming on..there will be changes made to move the company forward..A big part of that will be the accounting of shares..who owns them and etc going retail..
I don't believe for one minute that the longs are stuck..This is a long term play and if anyone thinks the pps will not significantly climb again they are mistaken..The only ones that are boxed in as you say..are the in and out traders.Tthat is what happens with penny stocks when some look for the quick gain..It doesn't always happen..
I look forward to the coming year and what EXPO's management will do to make it even harder to make those quick gains and or losses for a few..The potential of 100s of millions of shares being sold at this point by the retail side is a non-issue..I believe we will learn that the vast majority of shares are being held tight for the changes mentioned above..No one is getting my shares until I am ready to sell them and thanks to all for allowing me to buy more to hold at these low prices..
Happy holidays to all ...veno
Actually I believe that when we see volume down low..that it is the dealings between the company and the insiders..That the majority of the shares in no way are going to retail buyers..Some may get a million or two here and there..but it comes from the insiders accumulating..When they are done we see the volume dry up each time..I do believe in what I posted earlier that the company is scheduling out the shares to just a few who have been the main backers of the company for a long time now..At least one poster is saying anyone that sells now will look like a genius six months from now..My question is will that seller look like a genius in the next two months?? Any mention of pipe funders has no backing..
I do hope and have for some time that at least a part of the company is taken private..I am also not discounting a buy out of the retail investor side..If you add up the shares of what has come out recently and using your numbers of what people have told you they own..it is a pitance of the AS now..I am sure that some have bought more..but I don't believe that the retail group as a whole has the percentage of the AS they had just months ago..One investor was willing to pay a premium to get control of the company and either he or she has it or the company is keeping that from happening from insiders buying up the majority of the recently AS increases..In either case with a new CEO coming in..changes are coming and with the company working hard to get the balance sheet in order..I don't believe the news coming will have as small an impact as some have posted..The company has kept quiet about the recent increases..the question is..who is getting those shares and what is attached to them??
I will await the news to come and like the majority holders..I am not selling..I will be away for some time over the next several weeks..but will check in when I can..Thanks for your daily updates...veno
I am curious why you ask the question since your full disclosure says you are continuing to buy at these levels..
"so WHY in the world would you buy at .0002 or even .0001"
There is news coming that will move pps before any RS..How each individual investor plays it is up to them...veno
Yes it was filed last month..
As far as the increases coming in every two weeks or so..I would say that an investor or a couple of investors have agreed to buy a certain number of shares on a schedule so as to not to have to lay out the capital all at once..I am looking forward to the filings that tell us who owns the majority..Also the plans from the new management..I wouldn't doubt the next time the company will have a total sold of 3 billion out...veno
Isn't it great that the management hasn't sold any shares and hold them along with the longs...veno
Then you do believe that the vast majority of shares are owned by the insiders and management..I guess then that the management is telling the truth that they haven't sold any of their shares..I'll take that as a positive..thanks...veno
I agree 100%..
"They have no shortage of shares issued and outstanding. There are in fact over 2 billion of them."
Care to share who owns those shares right now?? How many of them are owned by insiders and management and how many are restricted??
My bet is that the vast majority of shares are owned by the above group and that many of the last ones issued were restricted..
Would you also like to comment on why if over 2 billion shares are OS..why only 3.6 million of them traded hands today?? If everyone agrees with your assessment of the company and management..why isn't anyone running for the doors with 100's millions shares dumped daily??
My guess is the majority don't agree with your assessment and are holding tight to their shares waiting for the changes that are coming..That not very many shares are trading hands because there are not that many investors willing to give up their shares..That the OS that is trading is being washed traded by a very few day after day for nickles and dimes..
I don't have a problem with an OS over 2 billion as long as the vast majority are in the hands of longs..insiders and management that are not distracted by the comments and wash trading happening daily here..
A New CEO and or President is coming soon..along with a new board member or members..I also wonder if someone already has a controlling interest in this company and is ready to start the change??
I look forward to the upcoming announcements... veno
I believe he already answered that question several
times..There has been several shareholder's that have actually visited the company and either reported here or in private..Not everything posted in this venue is based on what is read or heard from the company only..Eyewitness accounts..unannouced visits to the company and what is gleemed from those encounters is a big part as well..It is one thing to read comments and react..it is entirely different to actually see the products and go eye to eye with the real thing and management..
There are people on this board and others that do not post that add much verification to what is going on real time and the fact is..not many here have all that information..
So yes..many of mangements claims can and have been verified with other methods than just believeing in what is printed or what is said by the company..
Do you have any links to prove that management and insiders don't hold the vast majority of shares?? If you do..I would also like to know which retail investors hold many hundreds of millions of shares..I would also like to know why..if all is doom and gloom as you post..those same retail investors are not selling off all those shares daily??
This is a fact..the majority of shares are being held as proven weekly by the volume of shares traded compared to the known OS..The company says they haven't sold a share and I believe them..I also believe that the majority of shares that have come out lately have been sold as restricted shares to just a handfull of investors..If you believe that the insiders are not picking up the majority of shares..the result would have to be that average retail buyers have absorbed the huge amount of newly printed shares in a very short time..If those shares have been picked up by the retail investors..then there is a huge interest in this company on the retail investor side..Considering almost every share in the AS has been purchased..who do you believe owns them right now?? If it is the management and insiders..then the company is telling the truth..If it the average retail investor..then there are retail investors out there that believe that the shares they own will produce a profit at some point..Either way..Like I said..the majority of shares are being held and that is certainly Ok by me..
I like what I see coming as well..
A new CEO and or president is coming along with 1 or 2 new board members..Production is running double shifts daily and very likely we will hear about etc beginning retail placement soon..
I am a long term shareholder and believing in the above am quite satisfied staying as such...veno
Jeremiah..Thanks for your thoughts..
I too don't know if there will be share or other compensation for the new incoming board of
director(s)..
I did find the last update quite interesting..
My take on what was said is that there is a chance that they could decide to have one or two new board of directors depending on if they decide to add a new president of the company along with the new CEO..
First this..
"It is the company"s intention to have 1-2 new board members in place by early to mid-January 2011."
Then this..
"The anticipated incoming CEO and or President"..
What I like is that a change is coming and it looks to be happening within the next 30 days..
I am looking forward to what the new management will say about the future of the company..
Thanks again for your posts as they are always on topic and always food for thought...veno
Hate to disappoint you but LOWES already has contracts with EXPO on the display side..LOWES didn't watch the race..the public did..LOWES looks at the bottom line which is what the advertising brings in from the race..In order for there to be revenues from product sales..advertising at the races or TV is the start of the process..It was all about getting brand recognition with the retailers and then the racing public..
"we were very pleased with the exposure our brand received. We were able to begin many relationships in the days at Daytona"..
This was the beginning step for etc..it was not the end step..
Like I said I look forward to seeing etc in LOEWS..HD..and many more retail stores...
Wow!! LOL..tell that to the thousands of sponsors of car races
that are more than willing to to lay out the cash for the chance to be associated with some of the biggest names in the retail industry..If you want to get into the retail side of companies like LOWES and HD it surely doesn't hurt to start by sponsoring their cars or trucks..Like I said I have been involved in the racing industry for many years..I do know how the game is played and have actually seen it played out by other small companies that did quite well after their sponsorships..IMO there couldn't have been a better way to get companies like LOWES..Menards and HD to take notice of EXPO and etc than the sponsorship route..The exposure although a little expensive will be priceless down the road..
Your post couldn't be more wrong when it comes to intial product placement of a new product..
I look forward to the upcoming news of etc retail placement in LOWES..HD..Menards and IKEA..Talk to you then...veno
I have to disagree..
"It was unquestionably a complete and total waste of money"..
I do know the reasoning for the sponsorship and it wasn't done to bring in retail buyers..It was done to gain interest from the retail stores to get placement of etc into them..That ship hasn't sailed yet..You have no idea if by sponsoring the trucks that companies such as LOWES or Menards are now waiting for production of etc to increase to the point of placement..
As I said when we first heard about the sponsorship..The fact that JD got to be there for several days was great exposure for etc..So IMO and from what I have learned since..When a company like Menards..with their retail side in play..asks if your company would be a sponsor..you don't say no..It also doesn't matter if in the race your truck wins or crashes..It does matter very much if a company can't get a sponsor to enter the race to begin with..I have been around racing for many years and know that side of racing well..The..you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours..is the name of the game in that business..
Again..the company has to be able to produce the cabinets in considerable numbers before companies like LOWES..HD and Menards will begin product placement..I believe that EXPO was getting closer to that point before the delay..I expect to still see etc go to regional companies and to companies like LOWES..HD..Menards..IKEA and more as production increases..
When..etc does get into one of the big retail stores..I would bet we see more sponsorships happening..Once the products are ready to be placed would be the point that advertising becomes important for the retail buyer side and not before..GLTY...veno
I'll await your call to the company so you can correct your own
post regarding the number of displays you believe 37K machined pieces of wood will create..until then your post is purely speculative and full of dis-information..
Like I said I am not concerned..I am a shareholder of this company and I am happily holding my shares along with others that hold over two billion shares...veno
Production is increasing and your post has no connection
to reality..You might want to call the company to see how many displays 37K machined parts works out to be..I have a feeling that no matter what the display..the machined wood parts..which is what the company does work on and not the screws as you suggest..would amount to ten or less machined pieces..
You ask many questions here of shareholders but do not ask the company where you can get answers to your questions directly..In fact when a investor does get answers from the company and post them here..it is taken by you as third party information..It would seem that you have no desire to call or visit the company and report what you get..but do have a negative opinion about each and every news item from the company and or what shareholders report or post..Then you post that anyone that wants to debate your speculation would not be in their.."right mind"..as you just posted..
I am in my right mind and I could debate your posts of pure speculation daily..However when speculation turns to outright distortion of the truth..It is not worth the debate..Again..since you have many questions..call the company and get back to us..I am quite content with my investment in this growing company and the fact that a new CEO will be coming on soon to keep the company growing with retail sales added...veno
Here's one out of the list..
"News of increased production"...
"How about news of production...period? Yesterday it was back orders. Now it's "increased production"?
12/6/2010 4:19:16 PM
"Expo Holdings, Inc. extends a warm thank you and welcome to D&D Displays newest customer Belwith Products, LLC. The company has now received two orders consisting of displays and POP purchase components. The company will utilize its recently repaired CNC machine to complete the orders. Total machined piece counts are to exceed 37,000 pieces. These orders are scheduled for late December and early January completion."
I'll be sure to come back to your post as other news comes out concerning the company...veno
"Specifically, what "great news" is coming?"
New CEO with retail ties to LOWES and HD to be named..
Retailer of etc to be named..
News of further debt reduction..
News of increased production..
News that the majority of shares are locked up and maybe at least one shareholder now has controlling interest of the company..
Could be another offer to dividend the shareholders of record into a private placement or cash buyout..
There are more..but those will do for now...veno
I agree with your contention that JD and Glenn are hard working..
The products I saw that were completed were of top quality and it now looks as CIMA is also producing award winning work..Great news is coming...veno
"...jd and glenn are men of integrity and character ~ these are good people..."
I agree with 4kds on that as well..
You have mentioned that they are greedy in several posts..I don't see that at all..I see hard working men now working over time to catch up with back orders..I also have seen the finished products first hand and by no means are the cheaply done..as you have implied..No scam here..Just a hard working company with dedicated employees that is moving forward...veno
Do you have any evidence that any that I posted is false??
I do have my own DD..Lets see your proof..If not your your wild guesses are just that..
Edit..No one is selling..The majority of shares are being held tight for all that I said to happen..If any of your claims were true..the share volume would be huge to the sell side..So until you do provide links to back up your claims..pure wild guesses is all I see...veno
Actually there is 100% evidence that the shares haven't been issued..
The TA has no idea about any new shares as of this time..Maybe you should call the T/A yourself and get back to us..So it would seem that 4kds was right and the huge volume the other day was played without real shares..Gee I wonder if etrade will be the next company to get smacked with a fine..
On a side note it is great to see the company working 20 hours days to make up for the delay and to get ready for the new CEO coming in..Can't wait to hear of the eventual placement of etc at LOWES...veno
Actually not scary at all..
The company is now working 20 hours a day to catch back up on the back orders because of the router delay before the end of the year..It would seem that they are still trying to get all in order before the new CEO is announced..As far as JD and Glenn stepping down..I don't see either one of them leaving..JD can stay on in sales and Glenn can provide regional installation support..The company is adding two more board of directors and they are providing updates on a weekly basis..This is very much a public company and the stock has been manipulated at will..I agree with 4kds that a better path in the long run would be going private..However..I would still like to see just a portion of the business like etc and CIMA doing that..I liked the idea of EXPO reaping the benefits of the production costs from the private side..We shall see how it all plays out..but this company is not going out of business..not with ties to companies like LOWES..HD and Menards and a CEO with retail ties LOWES and HD coming on..Like I said not scary at all..I guess the scary part will be for some when and if the company asks for a share count again..Last time it resulted in two broker companies deciding that some were not trading with shares that were actually on the books and one broker still doesn't like what they saw..
The public in public trading shows right now that the majority of shares are being held in this public company..I would say that implies that the majority shareholders believe that the company has something they are interested in..I agree with that point of view...veno
yep...eom
IMO..the management hasn't sold any shares..
It is also my opinion that the new CEO has or will have majority control of the company..
It is also my opinion the no shares have been sold at a discount to the private investors..In fact all shares have been sold at a premium and are locked up tight for one year...veno
I agree 100%..
Statements made as factual in a public forum about a company..such as the company is a scam or that the management is corrupt without iron-clad evidence is subject to criminal prosection under the as you say "obvious libel" laws..
The SEC has many of those statements and the company has been collecting them as well..
Great news today..production is moving forward again and the company will be working extra hours to complete the log-jam of back orders..News is coming about the change in mangement as well..
I would like to hear the reply you get from ETMM..considering they are allowing traders with multiple accounts to..as you posted..box short exph into oblivion..
We shall see just how fast EXPO and exph recovers..with etc going to retail..I would say it won't take all that long...veno
Yes it was a great update..
I also saw where "back orders" were being worked on..I remember several posts saying their were no back orders..Nice to see that a management update was also mentioned..20 hours a day?? Very nice and very much needed..Thanks for your updates as well 4kds...veno
I couldn't agree more..
Looking forward to the new CEO and..
11/22/2010 7:43:48 PM
"The company has now installed the parts necessary to repair the company’s heavy router. A lengthy testing period is required before it can be released for normal production."
"Excluding any unforeseen complications, the company anticipates the router to be fully operational by 11/23/10."
"Further updates regarding this subject will be provided as events occur."
"The company expects a quick ramp up of production once the router is repaired and operating efficiently."
The 100 retailers for etc will be a great start towards moving the company forward in a big way...veno
Looking forward to the new CEO taking over..
along with production ramping back up and etc going into the first retailer..I hide the iBox..it is really very simple to do..just one click...veno
Thanks..
"Yeah, forgetting for the moment I never CLAIMED it was true,"..
So the many posts about PIPE funders were made up..
Thanks again...veno
Really??
"has the thought ever occurred to you that the PIPE funders and PP investors who normally mop Brown's slop up at a 40% discount give or take are so worried about a total collapse of the company"
Forgetting for the moment that you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to prove that is true..it would be nice to see the links to the above statement...veno
A new CEO and the ramp back up in production..
"guess what's next?"
With that..etc going into retail and more revenue..Have a great holiday all...veno
Really??
"no back-orders...no orders....no work"
After reading your many posts it would sure seem that you have become very interested in whether or not there is back oders or not waiting for production to ramp up again..
I am sure the company will inform us when they start ramping up production again just what orders they are working on..Until then..since you keep saying they have no back orders..maybe the company can help you out when you call and tell them they have no work and no back orders..I will await your reply of what they tell you after you contact the company..
Until then..back orders are waiting...veno
"The company expects a quick ramp up of production once the router is repaired and operating efficiently."
Talk about fiction..
"They had a skeleton crew working on Fridays"..
EXPO's employees work Monday through Thursday..longer hours..If they are now working on Fridays as well that would be great news..but I don't believe they have changed to a five day work week..
I have a feeling you are posting about another company..not EXPO..That would explain your posts that have nothing to do about the company we are posting about here..Good luck finding the right venue..
They have tons of back orders ready to go...veno
I believe what I admitted..was to a great update
and to the resumption of production..By the way..before the router problem..production was ramping up and orders were going out the door ahead of schedule..I have seen the quality of work completed and it is impressive..As far as the AS increase..not fraud at all..anticipated events happening are just that..anticipated..Good luck in your anticipated buying and selling of EXPH...veno
Yep..it was an update and a good one..
Some said we wouldn't be updated until Jan 2011..I am staying long the company..I think I will slap the ask tomorrow as some suggested just for the fun of it..It is time to get this stock moving again in the right direction..as far as your comments..to each their own..there are more companies out there that have no contracts with any major company like LOWES and are trading for much more and that is after reverse spliting their stock..I'll stick to this one for a long term gain..The router problem has been fixed..it is time to move forward again..This time with a new CEO who has retail ties to HD and LOWES..If I was concerned I wouldn't be invested..By no means is the gig up as you say and as far as having no work..I would say they have quite a back order caused by the delay ready and waiting to be filled...veno