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The Corona Crises - has many (very expensive) side-effects.
Throughout history 'creative persons' have always been good to 'see opportunity' for making money. This latest Crises is no exception.
Market situations (before Corona outbreak) has made demand (prices) on fur the lowest ever - meaning Mink Farms loosing money every day.
So what happens ? Started in Holland with 15 Farms 'Infected' !
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https://www.tv2nord.dk/hjoerring/minkfarm-afspaerres-11000-mink-skal-aflives
(use google translate)
Jasbg
NB. Already another farm is also infected - and 120 farms now has to be 'Tested' by government authorities - and if infected - 'full compensation to owners'.
marjac@ This sound 'endless' litigation - which has already been Amarins history ever since 2012.
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From what I have read about the 'Chances' in Appeal - I am pretty sure that John Thero and Amarin is going for the 6 Patent's Restored.
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What I do also understand - is that only 6% of Appeal Cases actually go to the Oral part in Court. Most are 'ruled' (or settled) following the Briefs.
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But looking at Amarin history - we should be so lucky 'to end this early' :)
It would be nice - but my gut feeling say - this will be dragged on 'AGAIN' - to end 2020 - start 2021.
Jasbg
PS: Hope I'm wrong - so we can all get on with Life :)
sts66@ Facts are 'that in the critical 'early days' of the pandemic in the USA - the game was played Very Dirty (against the HCQ treatment).
And the Trick to couple the whole thing to Trump - was used all over the liberal Western World by Med authorities- to distance themselves from the obvious HCQ treatment.
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The french professor - Didier Raoult, MD, PhD - proved early that the treatment HCQ - antibiotica (given as early as possible) WORKS:
As an exception I copied the complete article to my webpage as you would have to register to se it otherwise - this was out april 2 - 2020.
http://talksense.dk/covid-19-more-hydroxychloroquine-data-from-france-more-questions.html
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To illustrate how liberal MSM (supported by Fauci's - 'anecdotal') used dirty lying methods (there by indirectly killing tens of thousands of sick old people) - just look at the video below. The story that liberal MSM media secured vent Viral all over western world.
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OT@ Weekend best Classic Music Number - amongst the 10 best ever :)
ggwpq@ Answering you earlier I had a look once more at the video with Dr. Judy Mikovits - and I have to say - that to me as a lay person - this lady seem very serious and truthful.
And knowing the power that Fauci has - I would be interested in what a Pro' in medicine thinks of the video.
And input from other 'experts here'- would be great also' - does this lady speak the truth ?
http://talksense.dk/molecular-biologist-%e2%9e%9c-dr-judy-mikovits-about-her-new-book-the-plauge-of-corruption.html
(translate bottom right)
Jasbg
PS: Google kept deleting this video from Youtube - which does indicate that there is forces out there - that dont want the Dr.s story be heard !
ggwpq@ I 100% believe that it is WHO - BP - Fauci - that is responsible for killing thousands - and thousands of elderly people with conditíons in USA and Europe (not from the start embracing HCQ as proved to work by the French professor - that Trump referred to).
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That HCQ + Z-pack (antibiotics) - could solve the problem - Was Not what WHO - Big Pharma - Fauci wants - so we have the complete show with Fauci 'not approved' - Remdesivir (which does not solve anything).
WHO - BP - Fauci - 'You newer want a serious crisis to go to waste':
HK@ There is a lot of not only 'Big Minds' - with big experience and factual insight here' - but at the same time people with 'Big Hearts' - A Rare Combination :)
All the best to you all - and thanks for your continued effort 'to save Amarin and Vascepa' for the world.
Jasbg
ziploc@ Second that :)
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And that might be why Amarin underestimated the strength of 'the Blood Hound Lawyers of Hikma and Reddy.
These two companies 'Exists' on the basis of 'Their Lawyer teams' (as you point out) 'Steeling from the companies that payed for developing the drugs.
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For Amarin (and all the rest of us shareholders) the Patent Case was in the first place not reasonable - and the loss was a Catastrophe' of unseen dimensions.
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For the generic lawyer team - it is what 'they do all the time' - what they have specialized in' - Just another Win'.
They are soon on to the next case (the next drug) where they observe a possible legally weakness (possible win) to make money of yet another Generic Drug 'early' onto the market.
Jasbg
Wha@ The knowledge in this place (and analyzing of market situations) - never cease to amaze me.
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Quite honestly - I did not know that Apotex is a 'Major Player' in generic medicine world. And of course this 'completely change the valuation of Amarin Settling with this company.
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Reading Whalatane post here - AGAIN - remind me' not to involve myself in Medical Subjects - that I know 'way to little about' :)
Jasbg
NB. Whalatane's input is most likely EXACTLY what the deal with Amarin is about.
raf@ A brilliant and very logical Idea - that I support 100%.
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I have 3 children (all busy middelage with children of their own - my grandchildren).
Often I mail them with something 'Important' (I think) - and I talk to them weeks later - they haven't read the mails.
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So Yes' Information Overload is a problem for just about all of US and surely must be for a busy company getting loads of mails everyday.
Jasbg
JL@ Great positive Input !
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I for one agree with you all the way.
All the best
Jasbg
BB@ Thanks for your extensive input here :)
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You are among the 10 'big brains' that drive this board forward (even between the most tenacious) :)
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I see you as generally very positive and believing in the future of Amarin (a young version of Irish - mentally).
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And as you' - I do put my hopes (and money) in Amarin future. Reason' - big part trusting in 'the driving people' of this great board.
All the best
Jasbg
sts66@ Noticed ! - You might be right my friend. You have been in this game a lot longer than me !
All the best
Jasbg
Yahoo - input on yesterdays settelement information - thanks to Stock Revealer:
KevGee@ Second that !
If someone said 'death penalty' for something so completely sick and mean like this - I would not be objecting.
The bastard could have killed that old lady!
Jasbg
bio@ If Amarin settle with Hikma and Reddy (not going for win in appeal) they will have to settle with every generich in the world.
THE 6 PATENTS THAT PROTECTS AMARIN are REMOVED !
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Amarin has no choice but to go for winning Appeal - to save US market.
I think that Amarin yesterday telling the world about Settlement with Apotex (a generic that no one have ever heard of before) - was a way of signaling to Hikma - Reddy - that the Irish Company (that almost died' costing hundred of millions for R-I trial on FDA's claim) - is trusting Singer to win Appeal - leaving Hikma and Reddy - with nothing other - than millions in legal fees.
A way to signal/tell the rest of us - that it was the two generics' that refused to settle.
This is my Gut Feeling about this'.
I could be wrong - seldom are' - but it has happened before :)
Jasbg
rose@ Thanks - I think You and a number of other - of the members that has been here for years - can watch out for themselves.
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But there is a number of very active posters here - that has been here 'only since the patent trial became an issue - (look at Alias Born - day of Arrival - to get a hint).
And some of them are surely here to support Generic chances of winning Appeal.
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As I said - they dont go around shouting - 'TROLL'!
They work by getting to know the most influential posters - and 'from the start singing all along' - and then working to change the subjects - that 'are dangerous' to generics.
Dont expect it to be easy to point these individuals out (which often work in groups - supporting each other in debates).
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If you consider the money (market value) that is at stake here - you would be naive not to think that every weapon possible will be used to WIN.
Jasbg
As seen on Yahoo AMRN board - also iHub AMRN has a number - of Generic supporting trolls very active right now (only been here very short).
And dont underestimate the way such infiltrators work.
They 'sing along 90% of the time' - but has certain points - (Central to the actual Appeal case) - where they will 'always' turn the subject to Generic favour !
Jasbg
Article on Nasdaq - tell Amarin story quite fair - and look ahead:
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/a-stock-to-play-in-a-risk-irrelevant-market-2020-06-16
Jasbg
JL@ A bit shocking to hear how you are right now.
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All the best to you. I do absolutely understand the fear of Covid - that has hit USA general very hard.
All the talk about the 'Hydroxychloroquine + Z-Pack’ - treatment - did you ever consider going for that 'for applying immunity' - as did the President ?
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I do understand 'If you Did Not (was not offered that treatment) - having a number of other serious issues - maybe not the time to experiment.
I wish you a quick recovery !
Jasbg
PS: link to all inputs on my website on the Hydroxychloroquine subject:
http://talksense.dk/category/fnmonster/corona
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postes@ Looked at your Alias - from 2007
But - You have been on Other iHub boards 'before joining - the EVER Happy Life of the AMRN forum.
Losing a fortune on the Stock - but in a 'Very Joyful Way' :)
Jasbg
postes@ Thanks for answer - and I do get your point.
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You have been here 'almost before Jesus was born' - and I'm here for some months - and I know a lot of you oldtimers here 'have had I guess many "fights" over the years - and I ought not get' (might not underatand) the full range of that.
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What I have noticed is that JL is a genius in his deep background knowledge on development of Vascepa (the trials etc.).
He might have (like a number of the rest of us here) - a way of getting a bit 'carried away sometimes' - in a line of thinking that maybe does not always 'work in real life' - but I personally forgive him that.
Being an absolut lay person in medicine I have learned a lot of the background of Amarin and Vascepa from reading JL's inputs.
In a forum like this - people are aloud to 'slide a bit off track in between' (eg. late night and alcohol). As long as you dont attack others in a mean/unfair way - I will forgive you every time. :)
Jasbg
Why is the Market - Wild West - right now:
Artikel on the market under/after Coruna crisis:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-like-the-wild-west-in-the-stock-market-with-the-get-rich-crowd-vs-wall-st-pros-but-its-too-easy-to-blame-retail-investors-for-rampant-speculation-2020-06-13?mod=article_inline
postes@ That is not Pumping - JL says what he believe about AMRN going forward - that is Opinions !
Irishman does the same - indicates 'all the time' that it will end well - 'We will all be OK' - That's positive thinking/faith - Not Pumping either :)
Jasbg
PS if you want to know about Pumping - it is actually one of the many ways of Manipulating a Stock in the market.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/5-market-manipulation-tactics-and-how-avoid-them-2018-04-11
Nick@ Sure liked your sports analogy. You could write Nowels :)
And being a 'sports obsessed myself' i absolutely understand your mental revival (almost every year) - hoping that 'this year' will be succes - and then reality hits.
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The story of Amarin and Vascepa - has right now ended up 'haunting' a number of Big Retail Shareholders.
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I consider myself a reasonable experienced - sensible investor with now some 18 years of 'training' - I never felt more sure on an Investment than i did with AMRN after approval in late 2019.
So I went All IN - like I feel a lot of others here did. As it stands right now 'My Biggest Loss Ever' in investment in the stock market. Again' - I feel 'like a number of other Retailers here'.
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So the Amarin story has become - one' that I will remember to my last breath' for sure - no matter how it ends.
Still hope for a 'Soft Landing' - with Appeal going Amarins way - but nothing is sure - before the 3 appointed judges has ruled - hopefully before Christmas 2020.
Jasbg
I have been looking like mad for a post that had two video links - here on iHub AMRN in the last 2 - 3 days.
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The video I'm looking for was about the destruction (boarding) of big parts of Manhattan Stores and Companies.
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Please if anyone remember the poster/link - could you link to it here.
Thanks in advance !
Jasbg
NB. Video was not placed on Google (Youtube) who censor things like that' - but used an alternative Video Server !
ralp@ Sure they are (it's old fights DM has that pups up - as I read it).
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If DM has a Put at 6$ - that could/can make him money - it absolutely OK with me :) (dont think he's getting there today - though).
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But DM knows very well that inputs like this provokes many people here - that is why he enjoys - these post' (and await reactions) :)
Jasbg
marjac@ I totally agree - as the climate CO2 nonsense is 'dictating to billions of people' - 'what to think' - so is this agenda of driving down drug prices in USA.
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It is politics' - not science' - not reason based on merits' - POLITICS !
And that surely is a big Concern here. 'Mainstream needs cheaper drugs' - Generics are Cheaper' - this makes judge Du deliberately choose - to adjust/distort the case - so that 'it is in tune' with the prevailing political winds of the day.
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The above is the 'NICE' interpretation - og the judges mistreatment of Amarin.
Deep corruption - connected to Big Money funds - is the other - possible explanation to Du's 'sick ruling'.
Jasbg
Answer placed in wrong position - sorry !
Moderator please delete :)
hamky@ I dont live in US - but part of what you ask are universal (for the West anyway).
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It all depends of a number of factors - the most important - do you have any debt - going into retirement ?
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I'd say If you own (have paid for) your house and cars (no debt) - you should be rather well of with $2m after taxes (assuming you dont live in Manhattan) !
If you have debt - you would need to rise the number with around the amount of debt you have.
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Just my 3 cents :)
Jasbg
rose@ Dont we all :)
louie@ Second that :)
marjac@ I congratulate your spirit in fighting for justice.
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If you win/succeed or not is another matter.
But the first thing about fighting/correcting this violation of US patent laws - is for educated/qualified people 'to have the courage to point it out' - in the right places.
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Gods speed to you - and Irish has made me almost rigelious in this Amarin matter - so our prayers be with you - taking on the big legal apparatus.
Jasbg
louie@ As I said at the time of 'bad ruling'! Even if Du's removing of the 6 patents - was reversed a months later - damage was already done.
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My estimate - after Du's shock ruling - 360 million AMRN shares traded in the next 3 days in the market for an average of 4.3$.
Had Amarin won the case (which +90% of experts said they would) - SP would have been 25$ - so the Du's ruling 'stole' +7.2 billion$ from Amarin and shareholders - on the 30 marts 2020.
This can NEVER be reversed - and even you could sue the judge (which you can't - she has Immunity - I'm told) - she most certainly are not able 'to pay back' + 7 billion$. For Amarin and shareholders money is lost - someone stands (many say GS) to make billions of Du's ruling.
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If Amarin wins appeal - company will regain value over time (new money) - and might still do OK - but the Fairy Tale story - was killed by the female liberal judge in the spring of 2020.
Jasbg
zman@ I Think you'r absolutely right !
SP of AMRN right now (with once more 'Moths' of waiting) - is more about 'Hedge Funds' - Playing Options - than the actual value of Amarin.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMRN/options?p=AMRN
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There have bin so much 'Endless' waiting in the story of Amarin - that 'Even you hold/own shares in one of the most important 'Life Saving Inventions' - for modern humanity Ever'- the market 'Is Bored' - and looks for alternative ways - to benefit from the 'Enormous Interest' for the Stock.
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Even that AMRN iHub - is very active' as always - we in Real World is looking at a minimum +6 months (end of 2020) to know 'What AMRN is actually Worth.
So Went 2020 - As did all year 2019 - (waiting for FDA approval of R-I label). Would be lying not to admit 'all this waiting IS damn frustrating' !
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Jasbg
PS. If humans lived for a 1000 years - or even better' FOREVER - time would not matter - but on Planet Earth today - it does !
Irishman@
Venus@ The fact that this beauty - 'is suddenly back' and spending his precious time on Amarin' - proves that Bhatt's inputs is being NOTICED in BP circles (where AF get's his orders).
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We can most likely expect to see a number of 'critical articles from "clever analysts" - all over Bio Press - during the next weeks to bring - 'Things back to Normal BP control' - of AMRN SP :)
Jasbg
juslin@ This Guy in not only - 'Top Class Scientists' - He also a - 'Real Life Fighter'.
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Can only say - 'RESPECT' - from here :)
Jasbg
rose@ Ok - Get your Point - and your probarbly right !
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Fighting the battle with AMRN - does make it difficult to all the time 'keep track of your opponents - and in the patent trial you'r most likely right - Real BP's might not be the primary enemy.
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Are Generics BP ?
I suppose some of them are. They make a lot of money on 'others' research and inventions' but that is a discussion for another day :)
Jasbg