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beating around the bush, but no words on pascua but I wonder what he was thinking
http://www.bnn.ca/Shows/Market-Call.aspx
perhaps the PR from this week was the earth shatering news, perhaps there will be more to come even later today, quer, you would be better suited to wait the 10 business days before the negative posts again
what i think really needs to happen especially after the latest PR is Brent needs to hire a PR firm to get this done, they have connections, Brent has alot of enemies from Barrick to Soon Silver Wheaton, as at some point due to that deal in 2009 regarding pascua silver, that will have to be addressed at some point
Come on Brent, do the right thing and hire a PR firm if you think this is a no brainer, I would rather this done correctly then just again, I say random PR's that hold no traction, the proof is in the pps and the amount of trades and again today 0% batting 100% here
I believe that refers to Civil so may be applicable in this case but i will get my European Cousin on the case, he holds a doctorate of Law and is one step from The Hague to try war criminals however he would probably have his team look at this for the amount of money involved and he speaks 7 languages
Ok, points taken, I would have to agree as well, just thought that perhaps Jorge this time around could not get screwed when backed with a public traded company so I guess that would be out of the question but really
without putting a shovel in the ground, msx shareholders would be probably quite happy taking something like $60 each per share and walking away
I do understand Jorge has great integrity but just thought that may be the easier way out as MSX better raise money for court Faster then snot running from my nose or
They may not have to due what facts and closures come from Chile, I do hope that regulators here will take the facts serious this time around and not always protect barrick
good luck to all msx investors and Jorge in Chile
Just a Thought
Would it be naive to think that Jorge is going to work in Chile and while MSX puts out the news on the progress from Chile, ABX will be forces into a buyout or risk going to jail themselves
Panagos, from Barrick Toronto told me today that ABX still stands with their 21 Dec 2011 stance on Pascua, he did not want to libel himself with me to tell me otherwise
Perhaps it is not out of this world for ABX to keep adding the costs on pascua up to $8.5B so that perhaps when they know they are dead in the water at law they will contact Brent and Jorge and give a HUGE sum of money to MSX and Jorge to sign title over to ABX
This would mean a huge payout to all MSX shareholders on the quiet to actually have title and although going through the backdoor is sneaky is this possible
Is this possible or would this be rather lets say, out to lunch?
Thoughts welcomed and please do not bash this idea, I only say this from the response from Panagos at ABX today to me!
Hang on here a minute, Barrick has already admitted in Chilean Court they do not hold title, I believe this case is a Criminal Case to prove that they, ABX has lied and libeled Jorge and MSX investors
When Jorge wins his case in Chile for perjury and libel, MSX will have more influence and documentation to take down ABX in Toronto
Perhaps Chilean Courts will invite Peter and his Friends to Chile into the court chambers, I would highly doubt they would go
Why would the Chilean Court System just say Hey lets have a court case,
Of course it was Jorge who initiated these court procedings
He has a battle with barrick for his claim, MSX is in a JV with Jorge, when Jorge's victory comes true, the deal shall be signed, MSX will have raised LOTS of money to take Barrick Canada to court in Canada I would guess
They are the subsiduary of Barrick Canada so it would make sense then that if they lose to Jorge in Chilean Court, then so would Barrick Canada where the money is
from the history of this whole thing I believe this to be a fight of law between Jorge Lopehandia and Barrick Gold Corp with the help of MSX putting out the news as Jorge has no other real avenues to do this
This is why the 50% - 50% JV has not been done yet, it wont get signed off until After the court procedings are complete in Chile to strike out the Barrick claims ect.... you get the point here?
Also, if Jorge wins in Chile, I could see money being raised Quickly so that MSX can take Barrick Canada, you know, Peter Munk and his friends to Court in Canada to take back the cash that Peter and his Canadian friends have been stealing from MSX shareholders for so long
Attention Jorge,
This latest PR from this morning is the earthmoving PR that you claimed would put a smile on MSX shareholders?
There better be more then that coming to say the least, who wrote this thing by the way?
Not what I was thinking would come out so hopefully there will be more as this by itself I dont think anybody cares about
island
Actually if you look at the Y board under barrick pascuaforensics has gone on today on 2 posts regarding some criminal charges from Chile
It seems that pascuaforensics has come out of hiding and posted a couple hints of criminal trial posts for barrick chile and then barrick canada in chile, interesting, as for Tibby
movie at 11
Well although that sucks, i would rather msx not rush and screw this up
Lol i had to put in Jorge and Pascuafornsics trademark
Well Tuesday is here and nothing as of yet, i hope msx is not having problems with regulators and their big news releases so on that note
Tick tock tick tock lol
Is it possible that barrick reinvented the mine and thought to themselves, we are screwed here soon so Peter how about forking out some cash so when this comes out we can say, Aaron has been fired and we didnt forsee this coming as we just dropped lots of money on shares
How do you account for sec filings that were submitted for years on the land Jorge claims?
Time will tell i suppose
I believe abx's position on pascua is the same as before, thinking perhaps in the future they can aquire the land that they have lied against to date.
I would also hope that MSX has the proper documentation for public viewing (Hopefully Sooner Then Later) that they put out news from Chilean Court, (Jorge's Victories) so that the market will then DEMAND questions answered by abx
Just think of the feathers that could be ruffled if MSX does this correctly, still waiting for the 1st damaging PR from MSX and thought it may have come today, I guessed wrong and dont know anything anyways but just thought Monday may be the best day of the week to start a storm, one after another, abx scrambles eyes wide open mouth to the floor
It seems that there is somebody liebing Jorge and Brent for financial fraud on the Y board which is not positive for MSX at all
Check out this company who could perhaps help the cause as well, I know a guy there
www.drmg.ca
Jorge, in your honest opinion, I know ABX is dead in the water, what about Silver Wheaton, they did a silver deal with the crooks at ABX on silver back in 2009 for something like $3 or $4 per oz of pascua silver. WTF?
Would silver wheaton NOT have done any DD on Pascua? How can they just believe words with no, "Peter Munk, Can you please present me with Title of Pascua where the silver is"?
Instead, it seems to me that Silver Wheaton was intentionally buying more time for abx to sort out their Sh*t in Chile and give confidence to ABX faithfools?
Your comments on Silver Wheaton is most welcomed here Jorge, Thanks
This I look foward to along with title, and also the "package" electronic file so I will be able to complain as an MSX shareholder to the following
local MLA
local MP in Ottawa
BCSC
IMET
RCMP
OSC
SEC
I really dont care what happens to ABX insiders, rather I care about MY investment in MSX and thus far IT has been surpressed by ABX and justice SHALL be served soon
This is what I was also thinking, good stuff Jorge!!!
I have been long in this and would not put down your integrity and have also defended your friend PF on other sites, I merely posted a link to a Crazy SD blasting off his rants to belittle you Jorge and furthermore, I was a guy at the AGM who stood about 2 feet from you after the meeting and witness your title of Pascua so as me born in Canada and You from Chile, my honest opinion here is that you misread my post, and went balistic, not the case here Jorge, English is My First language, not yours, your interpretation of things is obviously different, no sick jokes, but a joke indeed it was and no libel either
Here is a letter sent to the Right Honorable Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada and to the Ontario Securities Commission and I believe the intent here was to put them both on notice,
So should there be any folks here or there disputing Jorge's title, do you think this letter would have been sent? I also believe names have been changed in the actual letter sent then from this link
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_B/threadview?m=tm&bn=187&tid=92004&mid=92004&tof=4&frt=2
Jorge, what names are attached to these criminal documents please, so I can continue to paint a picture for all my followers on my little island,
thanks
That Great Jorge, too bad it will probably take another $1M CAD to put ABX on the stand in Canada as our laws in this fine country are the exact opposite in Chile therefore, I see no reason that MSX will have to take ABX into Canadian Court which will drag on forever, Peter Munk will have died already, MSX wins the case hands down, however, the court procedings still cost MSX about $1M CAD for lawyer fees ect..... and about 5 more years of ABX appeals
Our Canadian System unfortunately is set up for Corporations to rape and pillage investors money, Why do you think the Criminal elements of Barrick harbour in toronto and not new York? Think about this
Jorge, here is the problem which I hope you will put to sleep in the coming days with MSX
I have personally called ABX and have talked to Andy Lloyd asking him questions on Pascua and ownership after the MSX AGM that You showed clean title but here is the problem
He goes on to say things like, "We are in the same position as our last PR regarding Pascua" "That land that Jorge talks about has nothing to do with The Pacua Lama Protocol"
Same responses by Email from the Same Guy
These must be outright lies and trust me, I have the emails still on my computer
Jorge, you must have missed my posts after that "joke" but it was far from sick, you must read between the lines and I have previously posted on other Sites that you have provided clean title at 2011 AGM
I agree, I was just bringing that post from Y board to compare to the questions from the new guy here as they were very similar posts
I am hoping for something from the already made decisions TODAY!!!
And allow ABX to scramble to answer by open trading tomorrow morning, that would be nothing short of outstanding in my mind and once abx back peddles and speculation lurks on MSX with the JV, well not saying that will push the pps up, but certainly will get the market at least interested in the story
Sure wish those at MSX would have gone through a PR firm as those guys and gals have real connections
good luck to all MSX investors
probably somebody from barrick playing games, on these boards you never know who is who in the zoo or somebody like SD
Clear title was brought to light by MSX in the 60 some odd page PR about a year ago so I highly doubt a lawyer would sift through the information probably give a thumbs up, then later tarnish his name, practice by saying oh, now there is no clear title
I say we need to just Hurry up and wait for the news
Then I guess Jorge fooled us all at the AGM from what he pulled from his case calling those documents clear title. Perhaps we have been fooled again here...dammit...
And the plot thickens
Was not deleted?
i believe there was an injunction on that land by JL which is why barrick has not been able to mine the property, they dont own it so that article in my mind is BS and from 2007
Does anybody know the date deadline for MSX to put out there monthly report on CNSX as the latest posted as of this post is June
thanks
Quit morning shhhh, lets not wake up quer
Jorge, you may want to speak to this link from your friend
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_B/threadview?m=tm&bn=187&tid=91903&mid=91920&tof=2&rt=2&frt=2&off=1