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It takes 17m2 to house 40,000 silkworms at their 5th instar (their largest size before cocooning). if you put the silkworm trays on racks, which is how it it is traditionally done, you can reduce that space to 1-2m2 per 40,000 silkworms
Randy Lewis and his lab at the University of Wyoming were the first to discover and sequence spider silk genes. These sequences were patented by the University of Wyoming. Lewis knows better than anyone that Kraig Labs owns the exclusive rights to commercialize these sequences in silkworms from the University of Wyoming.
He can do whatever he wants in a lab with whatever new group of scientists he wants, but he knows damn well that he can't commercialize them. Patents don't keep people from doing research.
I'm thinking another name change is in order. Perhaps QuartersForShares? ;)
Thanks for your response, SZ. Always appreciated.
It would be nice to know if they had a current strain that is ready for scale (no crossbreeding and no tweaking) so the current facility could solely focus on ramping up. Which I expect they do. The 50ha campus will be a major development and the epicenter of spider silk production in the world, but by that time we should already be churning out tons out of the ~50,000sqf facility.
Thanks
Hi Sickzone,
I'm fairly certain that any facility that the worms are in will need to be biosafety certified. I'm guessing that was why they were in a temporary facility (probably a university building at IoB-VAST) that already had a biosafety certificate. It's probably why Ben said it wasn't really quarantine. They just needed a place that had an existing certificate while prodigy worked on getting their own.
Anyways, what I'm asking is do you think this means our larger renovated facility now has it's own biosafety certificate? I would think that's a prerequisite for being able to transfer the silkworms. I haven't seen any issuance through Vietnamese channels yet, but it could have already happened. Or maybe MARD has determined that the worms are low risk and don't need a biosafety certificate. I'm not sure.
Thanks
Wow! great find Dillonview. The relationship between Nike's president (Michael Spillane) and Polartecs CEO (Gary Smith), is great to read. Along with the other high level relationships with top brands. And it doesn't seem like Smith isn't losing any sleep over Versa potentially selling. It kinda sounds like he'd be looking forward to it.
I think this article has more implications than people might realize. Thanks for sharing it.
nothing happened to it. That is how silk is done traditionally all over the world.
I assume they will because I do not see a way to house and care for a half a billion worms in one location.
What happened to your idea that the silkworms would be dispersed to farmers through out the country side?
This is nice to read...
Global Silk Market is expected to rise from its initial estimated value of USD 13.54 billion in 2018 to a projected value of USD 24.27 billion by 2026, registering a CAGR of 7.57% in the forecast period of 2019-2026. This rise in market value can be attributed to growth of demand from various developing regions of the world.
If I had to bet my life on who gave KBLB the million dollars, I would bet that it is Kenneth Le
If they aren’t already out or there wasn’t 100% certainty they were coming out, we wouldn’t have seen these last 3 PRs
JMO But I think this is the source of the million dollars
So if what some are implying, and it's a go at prodigy. What reason is there not to announce quarantine lifted?
I agree, the Texas facility is not for commercialization purposes. The initial planting was 2000 mulberry trees on the 14 acre Texas property. I believe this feedstock is solely for R&D. It's unknown if they have planted more.
Hi Hope,
The most basic equation I can give you (and this is just a general rule of thumb) is that each hectare produces enough mulberry to produce 400kilos of finished silk thread per year. So 1000 hectares of mulberry can feed enough silkworms for 400tons of finished silk a year. Hope this helps KBLBpatience2
In the past 5 years there has been a PR released during passovers 3 times. Not sure what your definition of "normally" is either. It would be more accurate to say "Kim normally puts a PR out during passover".
Regardless, I wouldn't say you were stating "bonafide facts". Just your opinion. It's my opinion that indicating to people that it's unlikely that we will receive a PR during passover is utterly baseless.
Don't know....
Just stating a bonafide fact....
Based on historic events.
Hell, i'd even take a $10,000,000 contract depending on the deliverables
Hi nimbustux,
Like Imjinbridger just referenced, I believe it's normal to leave out decimals when discussing digits and figures. Hence, the 6-figure salary usually means people are making $100k+ a year
I agree, Jonnyo07.
The next military contract is what I have been waiting for. It is the only validation I'd need to know in order to be extremely confident in this company's success.
For me, this mornings PR has always been the precursor to the news of new (and much larger) contract. I knew we wouldn't get that contract before todays PR. I think the clock starts now. They can now fully test our material and if the Army likes what they see in Dragonsilk for any number of different purposes or applications, they could send over a contract at any time.
Oh, gotcha Bombay. I should have inferred it from the rest of your reply.
I would be surprised if Jon spread these on his desk and snapped a photo for the PR.... that’s what it looks like to me anyway....
From the second sentence of the PR:
These panels will be evaluated for effectiveness in stopping bullets, in an effort to provide our Warfighters with a lighter and more comfortable alternative to conventional protective apparel
Hi Pennies,
Thanks for your comments.
If Warwick had cut the shootpack panels, I doubt they would have sent KBL back everything in order to then ship it to the army. My guess is (and I'm fully speculating) that Warwick sent these samples back to KBLB while the rest went to the Army.
The Army's shootpacks will be a variety of different layers, so giving Kraig Labs back some panels at no particular thickness (in individual layers) makes sense to me.
I could be wrong, and maybe warwick snapped these photos and sent them to Kraig Labs just before shipping to the army, but I would imagine Kim would want the real thing in hand. And just FYI, I'm sure you saw it, but Money4nothing discovered that these photos were taken 11 days ago
Take care
Right on, Truth. And again, thanks for sharing. I'm guessing that this company will be successful much sooner than any necessary FDA approval.
Although synthetic spider silk has impressive potential as a biomaterial, endotoxin contamination of the spider silk proteins is a concern, regardless of the production method.
Hi Truth,
Thanks for posting this. But, this has nothing to do with genetic modifications made with piggybac or ZFNs. Only in processes that use bacteria as an engineering tool, or where bacteria is present during the production of the protein. I don't even think it would effect organism modified with CRISPRs considering that technique only uses a portion of the bacterias DNA.
Endotoxins are created within the bacteria as a defense mechanism among other functions. They can't be created or spread without live bacteria to produce them.
I always thought that KBLB's price of $30K /kilo was a foolish estimate, but we have no idea what Bolt Threads' current production costs are,
No problem 3Dcadman.
If more people read it, they would understand Bolts costs better. They'd realize that the $30-$60k per kilo costs in the paper are well documented for protein production, but those costs are also for large scale commercial production. The protein production industry is about as efficient as it can be without some major scientific break through. And if Bolt Threads had that "major scientific breakthrough" for protein production, why would they be trying to create clothing? if they used there methods, and could create proteins at even $10k per kilo, they would corner billion dollar protein production industries (like human insulin, which is a much smaller and simpler protein to produce than spider silk) immediately.
Their method will NEVER work in the fashion or textile industries.
Yes, 10 million in sales is projected....
Will go on the books regardless as a profitable company acquired..
Then they purchased a company that is slated to make at least 10 million dollars in profits this year alone....
the article does not say around $100.
it says more than $100.
which is a bs number that looks good in an article.
is it $101,$150,$1000,$30000
i can build a house for more than $100 as well
Hello 3Dcadman,
Welcome to the board.
Can someone tell me why Kraig Labs states (on their website) that it costs Bolt Threads over $30,000 to produce 1 kilogram of silk and states Kraig Labs can produce for less than $150 per kilogram. This new Forbes article states that Bolt Threads can produce 1 kilogram of silk for around $100 per kilogram now and $40 later down the road. Which is it correct.
Holy crap! That is very interesting. thanks for posting, Red!
Great day to get cheap shares because of that study.
everyone thinks they understand...but they really don’t...
I also noticed that they have an office in Ho Chi Minh. Interesting.
Thanks again Lebbe
Ya, it looks like they have 13 of the gold ones in stock, and 5 of the blue ones. They are really putting those giant 5 story vats to good use. /s
Hi Lebbe,
Thanks for sending this info. Those service could really increase exposure of the company. Do you know if this is the agency that KBL chose? Or is this just a suggestion?
Thanks
Thanks for sharing this.
So Bolt Threads next "big" thing is the handle of a knife that, from what I can see, added about $350 to the cost of the knife compared to ones similar to it.
Wow. They are really breaking down barriers with their "technology". Hmmmm