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Good luck with the communication and conversation with that one. It is nothing but circles upon circles of excuses and how the whole wide world has wronged and taken advantage....literally everyone, every single time. And where are they today???? Ohhhhhh still doing nothing, amounting to nothing, proving nothing.....just spinning more tall tales of the future and OMG how hard we are working to restore shareholder value. What a joke is right.
Lawsuits are tricky, expensive and a hassle no matter what side of the fence you are on. They rarely ever go exactly how a person plans or hopes for. Even if there has been "mediation" as some people are saying, it doesn't mean there will be some 20 or 30 million dollar settlement. (Mediation has been over for quite some time now by the way)
Also, a trial being moved back can mean different things. Anyone in a lawsuit would only settle for the benefit of their suit, but it doesn't automatically mean some massive payout like some on here are hyping up for. It could only mean it made sense and the best sense.
Again, lawsuits that drag on are expensive. It means the cost continues to rise, stress continues and the rumors continue on both sides. All we know right now, is that the trial date was pushed back.
No flip flops.....just stating opinions on the current situation.
This is a board for discussions, thoughts and ideas.....well I thought it was anyway. There is plenty I still don't agree with, trust me. But that is the only way TAUG can survive.....whether it remains as TAUG or another name. The point was stating the only paths forward. A merger/acquisition situation or just simply close up.
Otherwise as closing up, they simply close up shop and go on down the road, like many others do too.
The overall hope for TAUG is left with several things alone at this point. The past happened, get over it.....the other people the rumors, lies, etc....that stuff is done and over with, keep your opinions, that's fine....we all have them on this company and stock. I still agree that Stella did some awful things and made herself some good cash and stock, cars etc before leaving....that she did. The real reason she left....well, call her and ask. I got a feeling from my conversations she was just out for herself only, pretty much all along because she wanted to break out anyway and do her own thing, which she did....well, mission accomplished there.
No matter what any of us think of Seth, Ghalia, Thomas or any of the rest of the crew....the facts are the facts.
TAUG needs to get over this lawsuit in order to move forward....win or lose, that's not the point right now....lets just talk about what the future could hold. Lengthy litigation and filings are expensive and just cost time, stock and money....of which TAUG really cant afford.
IF, TAUG can get current then I do think there will be a merger or acquisition. TAUG is already currently listed and could become current again, by end of year. That is the interest, is smaller companies that haven't been down the road yet can jump in. They would merge or acquire and go with their plan and the cash they bring in......either keeping TAUG as the name of Tauriga or making a new company name. But, that is a viable option and one of the best ways to eventually get any investors their money back.
Again, lets just talk the basic facts about this company moving forward. No bashing, no names......not the point of the post here. This was to put out my opinion of where the company of TAUG stands right now and what the plan could do....in the future. So they need to get current before end of year, doesn't matter what the reports say as long as they are true....just get it done and filed so the status is now fully reporting and current....yes, we all know it will show negative and bad numbers.....dugh. Then, attack the lawsuit for the basics of the wrongdoing that were done. But once they become current and filed.....I really think someone is going to want to merge or acquire to rebuild and build their own platform and move forward. Who knows what that company could be.....anything really. But it would move forward.
Possibility here....well I think so.
Well the reports are out.....
Hmmmmm......
Some are here.....most are standing back, licking their wounds and waiting to see what will actually happen now.
So people think this ship is being held above water by some lifeboats and those lifeboats that were added.......are and will be being cut off very shortly....well, then we know what will happen.
Hmmm.......guess time will really see if this company can manage the new stuff coming online finally and balance that with debt and increased shares.....and hopefully even out, stay afloat and somehow those ventures will bring the value up and go higher. That would be the ideal situation anyway....long term.
Now, who wants to hold their shares, who's gonna add and who's gonna sell off??????? Let's see....
Explode hugh? I guess time will tell, lots of holding right now.....but it has continually looked good for the last few weeks. Lots going on, more news all the time and this company is really getting their paws out there into different stuff. PLUS a lot of their past efforts are starting to come to fruit now....sounds good to me too.
And yet, oddly quiet on this old front too. LOL
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Diannedawn......your same questions, plus many others I posed to TAUG and Seth are the reason I lost faith quite a while back. Claims of stuff, no proof.....only proof we continually see if share price falling, worthless share certificates and nothing happening and everything still hinging on a lawsuit, as far as even Seth himself has said, without this lawsuit there is nowhere to go, nothing they can do.
So....when any other company and their BOD act this way, do business this way, people pose the same kinds of questions for those issues. They get answers or the shareholders and actual/real BOD make changes.
However, that clearly wont happen in this case, so we stand at a status quo, waiting on the lawsuit to "save the day", according to TAUG.
Riiiiiiigggghhhhtttttt.......
Zal....I have always admired your optimism......but what kind of chocolate center man? It's been empty for a while now. Seriously.
Well.....and most real companies would be posting PR, updating shareholders and keeping them abreast of what is going on, what has happened, their opinion and view of it all and their plan forward.....since it obviously affects the shareholders wither way.
But, then again....news and PR of any real and substantial information, without errors and fluff have always been an issue with TAUG. Just scroll through their postings and see the kind of stuff that goes out.
Where is the real info, real story, real update....what does Seth think of it all, plan on doing now?????
Not asking for a whole company plan (there's not one anyway) but just some update on what the CEO thinks and plans on doing to actually bring shareholder value back and fight for the shareholders as TAUG claims to always do and make a substantial company again. Where is that kind of meat at????
Ohhhhhh yes, he has quite a collection of e-mails, texts and messages overall....from many, many people. And I would dare to venture that many of us on here have quite a collection too.
And so everyone, every single person, business venture, BODs, all of it.....has it all been to take advantage of Seth? Even Seth says the same thing....people wronged me, took advantage.....all them are bad but I'm good.
So again.....everything and everyone who came into contact with TAUG or BVAP or anything else with Seth tied to it has been bad and Seth is the only good one, the only one fighting for the little man who has lost their share, their money and so on?
My God, someone call the Catholic Church......we have a modern day saint on our hands here people.
I as well as many others look outside the box for a long time......years now.
Wait.....did you really just say that in your mind, it is not just the lawsuit? But, you think there will be a merger option?
Really......so my point still stands, there is nothing left to TAUG.....nothing. There are no assets, no business, no product....not even anymore IP left. So again, there is nothing left.
If all a company has high hopes and dreams of is a lawsuit and/or a merger.....than the company has nothing.
And what exactly do you think TAUG would bring to the table anyway.....???? What is there? What do they have to offer that would make anyone in their right mind want to merge with a shell?
No, it would not have been proper, legally for the judge to try and rule for the case to be dismissed when the case was brought before the wrong court in the first place. That is what the judge should have done......sent it off to the correct court. Or if legal, flat out dismiss on grounds of wrong venue. Then make them file in the correct court system.
Sticking around? Well what the hell else are any of TAUG or the BOD supposed to do? The lawsuit is literally all they have left at this point.....so they are pouring full force anything and everything into this to get something back.
And I will give them one thing and one thing only at this point......they haven't bolted for the door yet and resigned positions and left. Otherwise.....still no fan of this group, situation or what all has happened.
You are 100% correct. MANY want to see these people, the same core group that keeps hopping around and "running companies" taken down. Because in their version of running these companies they are actually just running them down to nothing.
Pumps and dumps. If they could get all new people in, with all new and fresh ideas and people who were not crooked....then maybe these companies would stand a fighting chance.
What boggles my mind is the level of fraud, misinformation, lies and crap that go on. Call me naïve, fine.....but it still boggles my mind. I never knew that there was this level of crap from the level of crap people.....no matter which company they claim to be a "CEO, COO, CFO" of.
Same ole song and dance. Where does it end and when does it end?
Lots of comments about what AMRS closes and opens and closes at. Guys, this is a stock. They all go up and down. When people buy and sell, it causes it to move, just like any other stock. The more you sit and watch, the more you see it move.
Give this some time. There are LOTS of things moving around, happening and going here and LOTS of partners, ventures and things happening which are pulling in revenue. This stock will be just fine, in some time.
When some news comes out showing this, then we will all see some moving and moving UP in my opinion. But I still think this stock is poised to be a climber....maybe not a runner, but it will climb. I would rather see a nice, steady climb and hold, climb and hold then a jump and drop only.
Think about being a little bit of a long holder here rather than just a short. And IMHO I don't think any of us will need to be too long of a holder to see the gains. AND, when this stock rises, it will cause selling for people who want to get their money back. And that's fine.....but try and hold a little bit and wait it out for the big gain, more return on your dollar.
I certainly hope so, this guy has put me through the ringer and I am tired of people like this doing these kinds of things. Wish there was more I could do.....let me know if I can help.
Below is one avenue to look into.....lots happening right here, right now with this one.
http://novvi.com/service/
Consulting shares.....what a joke. Facts are facts....plain as day.....the sky is blue right now, water is wet, we need air, fire is hot and a scam is a scam.
And your response, in response to an old posting of mine.......just to clarify, I am NOT any kind of supporter of TAUG.
I do NOT agree with it's direction, what has gone on and the people in place running it. There is wayyyy too much that has gone on that I certainly do NOT agree with, understand (because nothing backs it up in my opinion) or feel there is any path forward with this current TAUG and it's current management team.
I lost faith in this "company" long ago now and made that point clear, even on this board as well as to Seth himself and many others, verbally and in writing. I could not continue backing or supporting something I did not believe in. If I cant find enough burden of proof myself, I don't know what these people think would ever happen in court.
My opinions on what I have read, found and conversations with many of the TAUG group. I feel it is up to a real company, to make me believe in what they have, a product, a business, a venture......anything, something....not just a potential belief in a lawsuit. Lawsuits come and go.....just look at the history here, but facts and proof are what matter to me and my money.
Reporting what? Again, TAUG has nothing. Had nothing even right before all this crap happened. So TAUG becomes reporting. They can report what? Then what? Merge.....merge with who and for what? Why would a company want to merge with TAUG, become on top of TAUG.....for what? Where is there any incentive for anyone to merge with a shell like this, with this kind of drama going on? The only way to come out would be a company merges, takes the top position, replaces dead wait then goes on with their own stuff. Why do all that with TAUG....start your own company....not take over baggage and struggle to get ahead of this mud and drama.
It's all about what you have and others don't or can't create. This is where I see AMRS putting together a portfolio of things/companies/ideas that others have not yet been able to do, key players.
They are setting up things to make stuff, make it faster and distribute it faster than anyone else. As well, certain products....no one has been able to create yet. That is what got me interested in them. My opinion.....truthfully, is that we will see a jump with some news around certain products late this year. At that point, I think it will be a go.....on multiple fronts.
Think green, in regards to stock price, news and green products.....do a little DD on who all AMRS has in their portfolio now and what products they have and are making.
And see.....that is where I have issue. TAUG has become nothing but a shell operating in hopes of lawsuits. They pop off about suing everyone, about anything....even when you disagree with them and hurt their little feelings....you get threatened with a lawsuit.
So, again with the point of many posts, arguments and thoughts.....what does TAUG actually have? Well, nothing anymore, except their opinion of this Big Settlement.
So they get any settlement. Then what? There's nothing else there as a company. They have the company name, which has been drug through mud and more the last 4 years. So then what? What happens to the share holders who invested? Well, as we see from the share prices.....nothing but a loss.
Our dear Seth continually claims to be doing nothing but the best for the company and especially/specifically the shareholders who invested. Ok, so how does any of this pan out for shareholders, other than bad?
And the TAUG defense, more specifically the Seth defense is that he was handed a troubled company from previous people....which left him no choice to do the things he has done in order to try and save TAUG. Ok, so who actually believes all this anyway? Wasn't Seth part of this company before the downward spiral of drama? Then he passed off to Stella, then he took it back from Stella. So....TAUG has had nothing but bad management....what is different now?
All this is my opinion of course, which im allowed to state, anywhere.....despite what some may think. But, again....what does TAUG have, what does TAUG make, create or sell???? That's right.....nothing but shares and promises of better days ahead....all on paper that then gets taken back because of hurt feelings.
Sooooo, I see a long road of arguments, fighting, litigation, review time, fighting.....and more time and money wasted on a shell.
Oh well, what do I know?????
I see a lot going on with this company, a lot. Various hands in all kinds of pots of things. I became knowledgeable when the Novvi company was involved and on their product in production right now. That side has some benefits that will launch big products in motion with top name buyers. So, AMRS will see the benefit too.
Naive or not.....how does Seth get away with all this?
How do people get away with it in general?
I'm guessing this is one of those things that until a "smoking gun" is found or enough lawsuits go against them.....they can basically just do whatever they want and no one can touch them....UNTIL no one supports their campaigning and money bids????
I would think a CONTINUED losing streak, CONTINUED failure after failure would be enough for people to see.....but i guess not.
And in defense, "I'll just sue you" (told to many people and business alike now) is what keeps you going. I have been there done that with this same joke of a company myself.
What a joke, plain and simple....what a joke.
Tiiiimmmmbbbbeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Now i do agree with this.
It looks to me as this was actually just the responses by tauriga to the cowan filings, not that tauriga filed for venue.
I can tell you from personal experience that Seth does not like ihub, hates this board and the comments on it. But, continues to bring it up and argue about what we put on here. This board is opinion based. Facts are facts, when they can be found. So....simply put out the facts and there shouldn't be any arguing or FUD or anything like that.
Arguing that opinions in a DISCUSSION board are libel/slander make no sense. Those things have to be proven as true or false backed by actual facts. So until the facts are put out, all of them.....then this is all just opinion.
There are facts about filings, when filed, when said filed and the truth. Facts about the info put in a filing or NOT put in a filing and who decided to put the filing together OR put the PR together and pay to release it. Now theres a whole different monster there.....the all knowing PR's that go out. Are they true or not?
I am having a hard time finding the facts to back things up. Maybe i dont know how to or where to find all the DD, but i can't seem to find all the facts and DD to back the chain of events, time line and various other issues.
Anyone else got anything to share FOR taug to support this stuff? Where are yall finding the facts at?
AND BOD's shouldnt comment unless they have the actual, publicly put out facts.
Maybe Seth can come back on here and SHOW US, STOP all this alleged libel/slander that is claimed to be going around.
Personally, all i want to see is the real truth of where all the investor/stockholder money is going, and going towards what. Also, what avenue or direction is taug really going considering there is no product or service being put out or done by taug.
Truth, facts, honesty and transparency are what is needed here. AND, be cautious or you might just get accused of spreading "malicious lies".
Who's got the facts, timeline and details????
I have a feeling there are a heavy handful of people in here that were offered an amzing investment opportunity and signed the same deal. Yet, what has come from it? Well, nothing. TAUG has nothing except our money, the investors, stockholders are the ones who pay the price. Sure, it's the stock market and people freely invest.....sure we do. Sadly there are wayyyy too many scam/shell deals going on and hopefully the light gets shined on them sooner than later. And in this case, hopefully before more suckers are born.
Well, that's because as many have found out....there arent any out there. Follow the trail, it leads to a big pile of crap, wrapped in webs of denial, games, lies and deciet.
Wow......this company just keeps making the news....and NOT in good ways. People are pulling out, selling off and now BOD are headed out too. Sad, sad, sad.....
Drop? It looks more like a blood bath today....what a surprise.
Soooo.....the last two times that news was put out, well three actually.....not only was it put out....but it was paid for in excess of 40K.....says so on the bottom of the disclaimer. My question is.....if a company wants to put news out, gain attention and go up in profits.....(which is all ok)....why does it have to drop so badly again? Why does this company only get upwards with all the paid announcements that are worded like that? If there is good here, growth and potential.....work off of that.....not fluffy PR that is blasted out at a cost over excess 40K to do it. Advertise your product, share your product......get your product out there. Get revenue growth and stock growth that way.
Sad to find that out. Yes, i guess all penny stocks are the same, no matter what their product is.
Very valid points. No updates, that is correct. Soooo, 9 or 10 months worth of accrued-pay, plus any back pay for other paid officers etc, then debt and debt with lawsuit and their cut......
Ok, even at that......then what?
But.....just like i said once as well.....give it time, time, time, time, time......except at every single door step to a breakthrough....something happened. Failing of wellness line, loss of Pilus, BODs changed out and VP's vanished, no more website or functioning links......hmmm....
Yes, i have become skeptical and negative. But after time, time, time.....even as lost the faith.
Shame on me....?
True.....but none the less......another 2.5 billion shares....
Ok....let's go. Support with the ask. These guys are putting out advances and working on stuff. I'm adding now. Gotta show support to keep them going. Come on....get your pennies!
Let's see what happens with this 3rd NEW management team in place. Hey....like they say, 3rd times a charm.