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Dan hasn't heard a great track record, maybe he'll turn around, I won't hold my breath though. Surprises can happen.
In addition to having the dream I mentioned to EW which occurred before this incident I am writing about now, this happened, I do not believe in such things but I was out with friends and we all did Tarot readings for fun, the cards said in the near future, (not sure how near that is) that I will get money from something that began years ago and is now coming to a head.
As far as I was concerned, that meant that when my mother passed away, I would inherit her wealth, maybe it means something different.
That is probably why I come back here too, I like the puzzle though less and less interested in filling in the missing pieces. I keep having a dream, I don't ever remember dreams so this one sticks, that one day I will look in my brokerage account and it will have money in the place of N/A for SIOR.
The crash of oil prices in 2014 probably added nails to the coffin here at the time. That oil price issue has reversed recently. So if there was still life here the last 3-4 years it might be restarting.
But unless those in control of the corporation BOD want, have a reason and the tools needed to take it public again, or want to buy out shareholder, I doubt we will ever anything here.
Being dark, they can do what ever they want, and never tell us what they did, unless forced to do so in court. And that is a fools game where you take good money and torch it.
Now if someone wanted to take it over and insiders were willing to give it up, there might be a future. Last time that was tried, I think insiders killed, because of greed. But I have no proof.
3558 is a bunch. Interesting.
Like putting together a puzzle I’ve been working on for several years now I’m still finding pieces that are changing the overall perspective. I could of just let go my shares but they were purchased on a great hunch and a lot dd I’d done prior and I remember thinking this is a great opportunity that will help with my sons plans to go to college - a be whatever he wants to be and he’s getting older now almost time to go off to college so they best fix those filings and get this thing trading
I want to trust Mr Lloyd Jr and I’m sure his dad would want him to do better for everyone - that has trusted him and his son and seeing that the company has 3558 ... followers on LinkedIn.com now I’m guessing there are a lot of folks depending on his actions
No a offer of settlement is not related to the shares being revoked it is something that was added to the order and clearly submitted to SEC by the company per 2013 filing - we should all have a copy of a letter with an offer of settlement from superior per this 2013 revoke filing
shareholders have no legal right to accept or not accept revoking as far as I am aware and we did not have any kind of vote on it and we never received any notification in writing asking for a vote - which makes sense because like you said the revoke of trading was due to filings way overdue
See my post on 12-9-16 , or it's 12-6-16, any how, if you click on my name it will take you to the posts and it is in 12/2016 , link is there. .
I'm curious what rekindled your interest here, I see you've checked out old information,which makes my questioning side ask why? is it just weird timing, a rumor you've heard, fun on your part, curiosity?
Not meant to be rude, I'm just interested, after all, I come back here too occasionally.
Wouldn't the settlement have simply been to accept the SEC decision to revoke the shares, with out further legal costs? SIOR had no money. And could not print new shares for sale to raise cash legally iirc. They were at risk, I think of loosing the leases, and SE brought in a group to save the leases, was my understanding.
But I got put out in the cold and was not part of the private Gusher group.
Could u share link to court filing regarding insiders lawsuit ? Don’t recall
Are you thinking of Commissioner w State - fines / orders for shutting in wells or clean ups
As this is non issue now - few years old
https://www.occeweb.com/ap/ReptRecomm/IHREPT/2015/10en62.1.pdf
Sorry, when I said I could find nothing on Lott, I was referring to new stuff.
I have seen, as have most people who are on this board, most of the information you are posting,I wish it was new news, there is nothing new except the new companies.
Fortunately I never stretched myself out to purchase into the wells and I did not lose as much as many here. The thing that stopped me most from doing that, besides being too poor, was that I asked SE,
about the math in the potential stock price vs return on investment in the wells, clearly I would have made more money in with the stock than with the wells.
One day I'll get around to trying to reach out to Dan and see what is newest lie is, last time I spoke to him was in 2015, what he said did not match any action since that time, then again there was a lawsuit from folks on the inside and that probably made him have to hustle in a new direction while still ignoring his obligations.
I remember all of the information you provided about that. Hope you are recovering from all of it.
prick was screwing him the entire time. Surprised he didn't end up taking the fall.
Feb 7, 2013 REVOKED Filing document
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1216774/999999999714014785/9999999997-14-014785-index.htm
Paragraph I. Of pdf file
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”) deems it necessary and appropriate for the protection of investors to accept the Offer of Settlement submitted by Superior Oil & Gas Co. (“Superior Oil & Gas” or “Respondent”) pursuant to Rule 240(a) of the Rules of Practice of the Commission, 17 C.F.R. § 201.240(a), for the purpose of settlement of these proceedings initiated against Respondent on January 25, 2013, pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Exchange Act”).
Clicked More info link -
Panorama Resources LLC
Update Company Profile
Location: 844 S Walbaum Rd, Calumet, Oklahoma, 73014, United States View Map
Revenue: $3 Million
Guessing a subsidiary and would like confirmation as website bio for Dan w superior
Do you use LinkedIn.com ? If not it’s a great way to send a message with question to management and to any of them - although not sure what info they could provide about filings or company trading again if we asked but they certainly owe shareholders an explanation - so if you get a response and feel like sharing :)
Also see other response re W R Lott posted info on okcountyrecords.com
Looks like 35 well listings Superior Oil & Gas found and including one for Mr. W R Lott III on the OKCountyRecords.com
Info for Mr. W R Lott III - click assignment link next to 4th listing on page 11 for well info
https://okcountyrecords.com/results/book=002462:site=logan/page-11
Gushers Club - guessing as page 10, 11, 12 show total 35 well locations
Yes 2 at same address - maybe LLC is a subsidiary of Superior Oil & Gas co -
PANORAMA RESOURCES, LLC
Registered Agent Information
Effective: 20 Jan 2017
SUPERIOR OIL AND GAS CO.
Registered Agent Information
Effective: 9 Jul 2015
also this https://www.zoominfo.com/c/panorama-resources-llc/433680969
worth 3 million in the new business according to this.
I'm going from memory here, I'm pretty sure those numbers, names and locations have not changed much from when they delisted.
Can't find him anywhere
this is for the new venture, it's all I could find, strange to find it registered in Oklahoma. https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInformation.aspx?id=3512583166
here is the Superior Oil, new agent
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInformation.aspx?id=2312052353
? Are you asking if your share are worthless ?
As I do not feel that my shares are worthless - if they were they would not of been ordered to provide shareholders an Offer of Settlement and submit to SEC per 2013 filing - copies still needed to be provided to shareholders as no one has received them per per posts here and the 2013
filing which of course states submitted to SEC -
And if you check the court ruling co ordered to plug wells in Oklahoma only
And why didn’t they just do as the court ordered to avoid being fined ... makes no sense unless it was part of an ugly plan to capture the Wells or leases for pennies on the dollar in a quick sale for settlement...
Also this may be of use -
Warren Vineyard
Ph - 405-521-2248
Well Records
Oil & Gas Conservation Division
w.vineyard@occemail.com
I have nothing but worthless shares.
The company was in violation of SEC rules, behind about 2 years in filing financials, so were not reporting what they should have been reporting which is partly why the SEC revoked the shares (Meaning the company stock no longer has a public trading platform for the shares, but we still own the shares of the company).
What I am curious about is what the legal status is of what should be a reporting public stock that the SEC has forced into a non reporting status. Seems a bit counter productive, what I think the SEC action does is halt the printing and retail selling of shares.
But companies have limits that trigger a requirement to report. They were already reporting.... anyway, this is not field of expertise.
In this case, the last I heard the only asset the company had was O&G leases, but with out back door help they would have lost those, maybe by now? Also not field.
Our only hope is if they still have the leases, if the leases are worth something, if they get to a point where they want to raise cash by printing shares, in which case they would need go back to reporting first, and get unrevoked. I hear that as of 2013 that had only happened once in the history of the market.
Other option is to sue the company, which makes zero $$$$ sense unless you want to seize assets that may be worthless?
One other option is someone comes along and wants to take the company private, or buy the assets if there any?
Have you checked the Nevada SOS to see if the company is even a legal firm anymore?
Superior Oil and Gas inc has approx 3558 followers last I looked on linkedin.com and several employees throughout various states and a few other countries such as Ghana per LinkedIn.com and who knows if each person who claims to be employed there really is ... I’m sure maybe a few aren’t and clicked the wrong Superior Oil co link when posting their profile on LinkedIn like maybe the cashier at the Superior gas station - guessing
And based on this perhaps you may have better response w inquiries by sending msg to Dan on LinkedIn
Thanks for that update on websites and phone number - copying what’s shown on the site below but if any one can take a screen shot and post it on the iBox or here much appreciated
SUPERIOR OIL AND GAS CO.
Call (405) 999-8319
COMMING SOON
Copyright © 2018 Superior Oil and Gas Co. -
All Rights Reserved.
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6 or 5 years depends on when you started counting - of waiting with no word on anything - like wow
Maybe they never submitted the Offer of Settlement letter to shareholders like they were supposed to and just figured - hey maybe they’ll just forget they own these SIOR shares and go away
Well I work hard for my money and I’m not going anywhere - and this Offer of Settlement should be on file with the SEC as it said submitted on 2013 filing
Do you have a link and business employer id?
Well according to filing from 2013 there was an “offer of settlement” submitted to SEC
And per investopedia corporations need to copy via letter to shareholders and post via press release as well as local news paper or media. However if any of us had a copy of this I think I would remember only thing think got in 2013 was a post card - confirming address
November 17, 2007 Superior Oil and Gas YouTube video
On the SIOR IHUB iBox above where comments are there is a link SEC page
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001216774&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0
Yes you can post the link here as long you explain what it seems to be.
Has anyone checked the state registration and business license status lately? It will list who is running the show
Is Will Lott part of prickly pear’s new fleecing
In reply to your post, Superior Oil and Gas LLC is not the same company. Which is too bad they seem to do much better thatn Superior Oil And Gas Co, which now seems to be a new company, or a new venture for Dan. Panorama Resources.
His post is referencing Superior oil and gas LLC, they are a different company all together, i got excited years ago about what they were doing only to find I was chasing the wrong rabbit.
Can also go here site:panoramaresources.com (must enter in the google search box as site:panoramaresources.com ) and find a few more players, not sure if they are there now since they are not showing on the website, may not have been added to the main site or may have left.
I find it interesting that the Financial VP joined 11/2016 and Dan is President, some of the players mentioned have extensive backgrounds that I believe Dan has worked with in the past. Gotta wonder why people who have been in the business a while are in business with him, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
Clearly they have been there since at least 11/2016, whats been up for 2 yrs, Did Gayla get her money from her lawsuit and is now no longer a part.
So many questions
That's how I understand it. Thanks. There must be something going on, not totally dead, just some sort of movement. see my other links today
message sent to Dan at Panorama resources, wanna bet I do not get a reply ?
Hello, so what happened to the shares I own from Superior
OIL , is that company still in business, did it become this company and now I own shares here? Could you please elaborate, would you like to buy my shares back?
This is interesting , https://panoramaresources.com/daniel-lloyd-jr
here is the website for Superior as it exists today https://superioroilandgas.com/
Same phone number , apparently a new venture or a new name and new actors are in play
ECOMIKE, The reason I asked about what shareholders status are as owners in a non publicly traded company is because at some time after the website originally went down, there was for a short while a temporary page showing something like they were in the process of rebuilding the site, I may have posted something about it a year or three ago, it also gave an address out of New York, Superiors name or logo was there too. I remember the address was on a Lettered street.
When I was just checking on things in May to see what was up, the Bloomerg page showed the company headquarters was at 122 M st in Brooklyn.
It got me curious, about what to do with the shares so I called the phone number, the answering machine said it was Superior oil and gas, the area code 212 is a NY area code , I didn't leave a message but came here to get some answers so I might know what to ask them. I hadn't checked in until today with this site,
Today as I was reading this board , I thought I would look at what I saw on Bloomberg, it still has that address and is showing a new website for Superior, I'm not sure if I am allowed to post the link here but anyone can go to Bloomberg and look it up, the website is there. The website shows a copyright in 2018 and says coming soon, it has Superiors logo and coming is spelled wrong. It has the Oklahoma phone number.
Any thoughts.
Maybe I'll check the Oklahoma oil Commision site to see what if any wells are on their operator number 21997, got that memorized.
The only way to force a company to do what you want is to sue them, if you can even figure out who to sue for what.
But it's kind of like suing your self and paying the lawyers on both sides to pick your pockets.
Vaseline is cheaper.
Those that control a corporation from the inside can screw us any time they want. And all to often outsiders can screw us too!!!
I too have my shares. Why? good question.
Pop corn, peanuts, pull up a chair folks
But keep in mind that corporate raiders have been legally stealing assets and killing companies way bigger this one since at least the 1990s.
So do not hold your breath.
But this is fascinating to read
First I ever heard of this. Where is the agreement? Link?
Do you know when they took down website ?
Have you received a Offer of Settlement per the last filing - revoked
Great stuff - in your post jlbeach
jlbeach Wednesday, 09/19/12 06:14:24 PM
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OK, I have seen a lot of posts about not enough information being shared, that there is no news, or nothing to find. I will post some of what I have and hopefully others will follow with additional information as they find it.
Related Companies:
- Cactus Drilling Co. of Oklahoma: Confirmed by Gayla McCoy as another company that they are doing business as. She is also the registered agent.
- Flying D. Ranch, LLC: Confirmed in the SEC filings as an affiliated company. McCoy is the registered agent.
- McCoy Energy Co: McCoy has stated that this company is not connected, however the SEC filings has it listed as an affiliated company. McCoy is the registered agent.
- Hudson Resources Corp: Confirmed in the SEC filings as an affiliated company. Michael Sherrod (SIOR’s lawyer) is the registered agent.
- Lloyds Of America LTD: Confirmed in the SEC filings as an affiliated company. Michael Sherrod (SIOR’s lawyer) is the registered agent.
All Companies in existence that are related to SIORs Employees or affiliates. (There are many more expired and non related companies that are part of SIOR’s management. There are also many other companies related to individuals with small ties I cannot link to SIOR, however I have reason to believe that they are connected in some aspect. Feel free to look them up and comment.)
Gayla McCoy:
- SUPERIOR OIL AND GAS CO
- SUPERIOR DRILLING CO. OF OKLAHOMA,
- CACTUS DRILLING CO. OF OKLAHOMA,
- FLYING D RANCH LLC,
- TRUMP DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, INC.
Michael Sherrod:
- Lloyds Of America LTD
- HUDSON RESOURCES CORPORATION
Dan Lloyd Jr
- EVO, INC.
- Trump Energy Corporation
Wells under the control of SIOR per the Website and State of OK, with legal description, API, Well Name, and Confirmed Gas/Oil Production,
S01 T19N R10W 3501123199 Lonesome River
S12 T18N R03W 3508320691 Lewis 1-12
S13 T18N R03W 3508320101 Lincoln Lewis
S14 T18N R03W 3508361737 Lonesome River A 1 160 MCFPD, 20 BOPD
S14 T18N R03W 3508323870 Gayla 1-14 130 MCFPD, 9 BOPD
S21 T18N R02W 35083230490001 Donohoe 2-21
S22 T24N R05W 3504724396 Windy Vista 1-22
S23 T18N R03W 3508323869 Chickie 1-23 55 MCFPD, 22 BOPD
S25 T16N R06W 35073247340000 Washington 1-25
Legal description to land that SIOR has in Oklahoma, based on okcountyrecords.com and www1.odcr.com. (This does not include all counties in OK, so much is missing, or leases are held under additional names) (Some of these leases have wells on them that are new and possible part of Superiors holdings, however nothing to confirm it. Feel free to look them up and comment.)
S07 T19N R07W SE
S08 T19N R07W NW
S08 T19N R07W SW
S08 T19N R09W SE
S09 T15N R06W - NE/4
S09 T15N R06W - SW/4
S13 T26N R07W SW L1 THRU3
S13 T26N R07W S2 NW L5 & 6
S13 T26N R07W SE SE L7 & 8 & 9
S13 T26N R07W NW NE
S13 T26N R07W SW NW
S14 T26N R07W NW
S14 T26N R07W N2 SW
S15 T26N R07W NE
S15 T26N R07W NW
S15 T26N R07W SW
S15 T26N R07W SE
S17 T15N R06W NW
S18 T15N R06W NW
S27 T15N R11W L1-3; 9
S31 T16N R05W SE
S03 T15N R06W - SW/4
S09 T15N R06W - SE/4
S14 T12N R10W
S18 T28N R02E
S19 T16N R06W - N/2
S19 T16N R06W - SE/4
S19 T28N R02E - S/2 NW/4
S19 T28N R02E - SE/4
S20 T28N R02E - W/2
S22 T14N R05W - NE/4
S30 T28N R02E - W/2 NE/4
S31 T15N R05W - SE/4
The 2 leases below belong to McCoy Energy, and at one time belonged to SIOR. (According to SEC filings these were transferred back to McCoy in 98, however there are no legal records to show they ever were, and still may belong to superior.)
S04 T14N R26W A 3512920323 SELBY HOOPER 2-4 60% Working interest
S05 T14N R26W A 3512920305 SELBY-HOOPER 1-5 20,000 MCFPD, ? BOPD 50% Working interest
Superior also still owns land in Colorado, confirmed by Gayla McCoy. (These were part of Lloyds of America, and there still may be more, Feel free to look them up and comment)
- 26,000-foot long Bureau of Land Management right-of-way in the White River Resource Area of Rio Blanco County, Colorado
- Land also included a few shut in wells and possible lease for new ones.
At this time I have been unable to confirm leases, wells, or an active operator’s license in Kansas. But as stated on this board earlier, and what I would believe as a reliable for different reasons, is that there is 23,000+ acres leased in Kansas, with the operators being larger companies that have contracted to Superior.
I also have good reason to believe that Superior is working on funding for these leases, and while news may not be soon, the decision could come in the next month.
Negative Information:
- Superior and some related companies are behind on their business licenses in the state of Nevada. However they have until Feb of 13 to become current.
- They are behind in SEC Filings, however I believe will become current when info become available and licenses are renewed.
- They have been part of many lawsuits for breach of contracts, failure to pay, and other things. However this shows at least there working on something, and the court records can give a glimpse on the inner workings of the company if one looks hard enough. It also shows that Superior does have money in the accounts)
- Superior has failed to meet deadlines and release news, however if there are possible deals with other companies, this could be a main reason.
Recent Positive Information:
- On 8/30/12, Superior got permits to re-drill Chickie 1-23 (permit expires in July of 13)
- On 9/14/12. Superior got 3 companies to be released from their holdings for 3 wells, Chickie 1-23, Donohoe 2-21, and Lewis 1-12. (Companies are COMMODORE ENERGY CORP, DIVERSIFIED GROUP LLC, and BONANZA OIL & GAS INC)
- Many of the leases above are either being drilled or have active permits. (However I cannot confirm they are related, but there the only active wells on the leases)
Websites that provide useful information:
- http://search.cogov.net/Okcana/sname.asp
- http://okcountyrecords.com/
- http://www.occeweb.com/Orawebapps/OCCOraWebAppsone.html
- https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInquiryFind.aspx
- http://www1.odcr.com/
- http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpSearch.aspx
- http://www.eser.org/rhodes-south-field-wiley-trust-d-1-woolsey-operating-company-llc-mississippian-formation-barber-county-kansas-34s-11w-5
- https://www.kansas.gov/bess/flow/main?execution=e1s1
- http://www.kgs.ku.edu/PRS/petroDB.html
- http://www.kcc.state.ks.us/conservation/index.htm
From last filing Feb 7, 2013 ? Where’s the settlement offer?? I’m quite sure none of us have received an offer - as we all would have been chatting about it. I haven’t received an offer -
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDING File No. 3-15186
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934 Release No. 68858 / February 7, 2013
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”) deems it necessary and appropriate for the protection of investors to accept the Offer of Settlement submitted by Superior Oil & Gas Co. (“Superior Oil & Gas” or “Respondent”) pursuant to Rule 240(a) of the Rules of Practice of the Commission, 17 C.F.R. § 201.240(a), for the purpose of settlement of these proceedings initiated against Respondent on January 25, 2013, pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Exchange Act”).
If you own shares you are still part owner of the company whatever value it may be will only be determined by an audit or sale of assets and than a audited filing would still validate that value for cash from sales for holders I’m guessing to verify
If you however ask your broker to remove shares they would possibly be receiving benefit and you would declare loss than I’m guessjng - need to confirm with professional advisor
Last I read here, 2 or so years back, those investor/partners that were also shareholders from back when it was trading, most of them lost their asses on funding the drilling after the stock was revoked....etc, and were super pissed. And oil prices only recently recovered from the second collapse.
Some of the more interesting OTC companies I have come across, died not because of what the directors/officers did, but because 2 or more large stakeholders/money backers got into a control battle, or some kind of battle that cut off the money that was keeping the doors open. The players and reasons vary, but these companies rarely , if ever, survive if run by committee, and cash flow is their life blood.
This one had its first stroke when oil prices collapsed 9 years ago. It was barely on life support when outsiders / new stock holders tried to save it as a public company. Like I said though, when there is no single person in ultimate control, or agreement between parties, shit happens.
I doubt anyone could prove any SEC violations, if there even were any, other than late financials which is why the SEC revoked the shares. Only winners in law suits are lawyers.
Well it would be quite a pickle if the company board of directors was not interested in fiduciary duties
This lawyer and other perp would be committing sec fraud it sounds like
Maybe a class action suit would be in order
Presentation said 450 mm annual revenue from production for less than 25 mm
and that can’t just be given away
That 25 mm came from shareholders and the leases are property of shareholders
Out of 3548 LinkedIn followers we can only guess on the percent that may be partners in oil or gas leases -
Oklahoma ..., Texas ...., Africa ....?, Canada ...., Abu Dhabi ..., who knows
33 % or 50 % or 75 %
And what would those numbers look like
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