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Tradescott818

03/28/14 2:16 PM

#15316 RE: madbuster24 #15315

Definition of 'Stock Basher'

An individual, either acting alone or on behalf of someone else, who attempts to devalue a stock by spreading false or exaggerated claims against a public company. After the stock's price has dropped, the basher, or the basher's employer, will then purchase the stock at a lower price than what he or she believes it is intrinsically worth.

Investopedia explains 'Stock Basher'

This is an illegal activity that can carry significant legal repercussions. The basher generally benefits on how effective the negative rumors are, which can dramatically affect a stock's value. If an investor believes the false claims, he or she may sell off the stock at the higher price before it falls. The basher will then purchase the stock and ride out the gains.

What is a "stock basher"? What is the definition of a term "stock basher"?

A "stock basher" is someone that will constantly "bash" a company in the hopes of inspiring a lower share price.

In the vast majority of cases, a "stock basher" has a short position in the stock that they are bashing, which means that a lowering of the share price will lead to financial gains for the "basher".

The rarer case of a "stock basher" is a former shareholder or former employee of the company who is seeking some sort of payback.

There is nothing wrong with pointing out the negative aspects of a company. You can do that all day long if you want to.

However, the line is crossed when exaggerated claims or outright lies are made about a company. There is no protection for this kind of behavior/speech, as making exaggerated/false claims about a company is considered to be illegal activity.

What You Can Say

"Wow, XYZ's latest earnings report was terrible! They missed by 5 cents per share and lost a key contract to ABC! Their best days are behind them!"

Assuming that XYZ missed by 5 cents per share and lost a key contract, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying something like this.

What You Can't Say

"I have a friend at XYZ who says that their earnings are being pumped up through a fraudulent accounting trick! They are also about to lose 3 key contracts, and the CFO is going to quit! Sell all of the shares that you own!"

Either you have illegal insider information (unlikely) or you are spreading lies about the company (most likely). Either way, what you are doing is illegal.
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Turtle_0

03/28/14 2:22 PM

#15318 RE: madbuster24 #15315

Smart man my friend. Clear pump and dump. They made their money and now their gone.

Still like the chart though. Missed my short opportunity here but can't win em all.

Keep an eye on this stock though. I like it long term now that pump and dump is coming to an end!! Lol
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SooS416

03/28/14 3:16 PM

#15352 RE: madbuster24 #15315

Valuations of Vapor Companies

If you believe SPLI is overvalued are you also on the other Vapor company boards letting people know how overvalued they are. Because looking at the below information would lead you to believe that SPLI is way undervalued compared to its peers

PPS O/S Rev Income
mcig OTCQB 0.71 270M $85K $30k (1)
VAPR Pink 0.21 70M $4K $-1.9M (2)
SPLI OTCQB 0.285 270M $2M $296k (3)
VAPE OTCQB 16.5 6.6M $0 $-392k (4)

1 - Non-GAAP Income YTD Q3
2 - Q3 YTD (9/30/13)
3 - 2013 Revenue and income with 15% profit margin
4 - 2013 YTD profit

All information was obtained from filings with the SEC or OTCmarkets.com. I assumed a rate of 15% for SPLI which is very conservative as based on Mcig their non-gaap profit margin is 33%. So looking at the facts how can anyone say that SPLI is overvalued compared to the competition